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This forum has become totaly obsolete.

over the last couple of months there hasn't been a new build or any other "big" news for that matter. all I see is a few kitchens and a bunch of 15 year old kids who use them to create and upload tens of ROMs (which are all basically identical and share the same functionality AND flaws).
too bad, this forum used to be the most useful source on the net for WM6 related discussions.

Aah come on, don't be like that. People over here are doing the best they can to provide custom roms (for people who don't have the knowledge of creating them themselves).
IMHO, if you don't like them you should create your own rom and use that one. Capice?

P.S.
I went back to the original O2 WM5 ROM about a month ago. no more crashes, missed calls, etc.
it just wasn't worth it.

I guess you missed the 'official' WM6 ROM that InGeNeTiCs posted here...

Use the force luke!...
I agree with both of you guy's, yes thats what I'm doing... It has become slightly irritating the amount of custom rom's being published by newbies. But guy's like Mattk. R, Zoki, Fariah and Molski are really working much harder then microsoft is even with there poor version's of roms and so called update's. Variety inspires competition. And if your not happy with any of them then do like the Wizard2203 said, grab a kitchen and start cookin!...
p.s. did u use the u.k. 2.19 radio rom? at the moment for most guys that's the only one that really works with wm6

mattk_r, Zoki, faria, Molski, mUn and few others whose nicknames I can't remember right now have my full appreciation. it's the newbies custom rom flood that is killing this forum.
I think I'll take a few months off this site and come back when the real, official WM6 (not SpAd's SuPeR OfFiCial WM6 [email protected] 3) will be available.

ronroze said:
I think I'll take a few months off this site and come back when the real, official WM6 (not SpAd's SuPeR OfFiCial WM6 [email protected] 3) will be available.
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Don't let the screen door hit 'cha where the good Lord split 'cha. Please keep the destructive criticism to a minimum and post in the proper forum next time. Thread closed.

Best 8525 WM6 Upgrade?

Hello Every,
I've been a big xda-developers and i've gone to you guys many times in the past to help me out. I have just been talk into a ROM upgrade from my friend who has my Wizard and loves WM6. So i have decide that AT&T is taking too long on the WM6 release and would like to move on over.
Now i have gone through and read all the different upgrade from all the different ROMs, Black Majic, etc and i want to get everyone's opinion on which ROM is the best to go with for the 8525? I want a fast ROM that is fully functional with my ActiveSync for exchange and has some cool new features.
Let me know what you guys think.

Thread number 1,304 on this topic.
If you're an AT&T user, I would highly recommend vp3G's rom. It's very nice, especially since it's all set up for AT&T use already

GldRush98 thanks for the reply. I was looking for a link like this but i didn't see one for the 8525. Thanks for your input.

welcome to xda-developers... i suggest reading this and when asking questions... have a look at the Forum Titles... if its Windows Mobile 6 related (like this question is) the question is to be asked in there...
i always find this also a good source of knowledge...

First Cooked ROM from Midget_1990 on Saturday!!

OK friends, before you start asking about exact times, I don't know and neither does Midget.
ltxda and myself have been in touch with the rest of the team and our ROM developer Midget.
We could have had a 90% complete ROM uploaded sometime tonight, just to see the extent of the ROM under development, but we advised against this as after all the wait we believe our donators in particular and the rest of the Athena community would rather have a 100% complete ROM worth flashing over our existing ones.
So there it is people. Saturday some time unspecified, we get our first completed cooked ROM form Midget. Don't expect it to be the final ROM though, as some will undoubtedly find something that needs tweaking or added to the base ROM, but given the time Midget has spent on it thus far, we can hope for a pretty stable and fast ROM as I know he spent a lot of time twaeking it.
Happy flashing this weekend.

Any chance of a manifest?

copperwave said:
Any chance of a manifest?
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Probably not, as it's so close to release, but no doubt one will be put together after the initial ROM reaches Final ROM status.

anxiously waiting
I cant wait anxiously waiting

Call it the "Disadvantaged" Rom !!!!!!!
Then we know it is for us peeps who didnt get the official update
Irrespective of the name I cant wait though, better start charging the batteries and take out the memory card so long ....
This actually give us enough time to do backups as well !
Thanks Cant wait

what about the ext-rom? is the problem fixed? is it unhide & unlock? is ther a way to be?
Special tnx Midget! Can't w8 longer.
Cheers, Hirad

today is saturday and still no rom!

yes and it is still saturday for another 13 hours (in britain at least)
Right at the top it says that there are no details about time so just chill out and wait for it.
No wonder people like oli and Midget get pissed off! They work damn hard for this place and all they get is whining!!
Even if they over run by a few days, just be grateful that they have done it at all, instead of complaining that it is late or wondering where it is!
I'll be waiting patiently and be thankful if it appears at all...especially as the Athena is not a huge seling device and is always going to be one of the least hacked devices for that very reason!

rhedgehog said:
yes and it is still saturday for another 13 hours (in britain at least)
Right at the top it says that there are no details about time so just chill out and wait for it.
No wonder people like oli and Midget get pissed off! They work damn hard for this place and all they get is whining!!
Even if they over run by a few days, just be grateful that they have done it at all, instead of complaining that it is late or wondering where it is!
I'll be waiting patiently and be thankful if it appears at all...especially as the Athena is not a huge seling device and is always going to be one of the least hacked devices for that very reason!
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C'mon, tiger! Get your claws back in!

My Bad...Sorry next Saturday 1st September.
Sorry friends I made a mistake. I got in touch with Midget today to check on the progress, to find he's still away from a PC until early next week when he could upload the 90% ROM we told him to hold off from as Saturday would be the day for the Complete 100% ROM.
Stupid me assumed it was this Saturday. I re-checked my txt messages from Midget and indeed he did say 'back early next week and can upload 90% ROM then and complete ROM by Saturday'.
Sorry all, my excitement must have got the better of me.

cool man it's ok we can wait!
Anyway currently for the cooked ROM what's the advantages/disavantages or any items included/excluded? New to this kinda stuff just hope my questions do not seem dumb.

hey guys! cool down! i'm really sorry for that kinda posting! 2 proud of myself... u know? sorry now i really apreciate this situation and this hard working from both of our heroes(Oli & Midget)! and mackaby007 it's not your fault we are all excited to see the first cooked rom for our devices! have nothing to add on this! 2 sorry man.
Cheers, Hirad

what is a cooked Rom and does it come with chips and beans?

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what is a cooked Rom and does it come with chips and beans?
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More like bricks & toast, if you don't know what you're doing!

I think we all just need to calm down and wait patiently for the ROM. Midget did wonders on the Universal, and now we will get the same great ROM style on the Athena - so we wait....
It's not as if we dont have an interim WM6 we cant use? If you're really desperate then bung on the one that's been available for a few months and then do it again when Midget's is ready - otherwise just stop bugging the poor guy!!

Let's prepare for the forthcoming ROMs.
Hi all. I don't know all the details, but I know this much;
Midget has been working on the Dopod u1000 version ROM, but has changed to be a default European ROM (last I spoke to him) and has made optimized it for speed and reliability, getting rid of unnecessary ****e etc.
He was already very close to completion a few weeks back before his PC died on him. So he had to put most of the ROM back together from memory alone, plus the usual setbacks of life.
Expect a new thread for the new 'Cooked ROM' when it arrives. It will be tweaked with some apps included that should be standard in all ROMs.
For those who are new to ROMs and cooked ROMs, look at it like a software container for the Operating system and specially chosen 3rd party apps etc. Once you flash any ROM with a different one, you completely loose all your previous data, except what you have on the MicroDrive (MD).
Now is a good time to get all your favourite .cab files and exe's (for which you need to use Active sync to install them) ready, as you can't use back-ups from apps like Spb Backup or sprite, to restore your old backups onto a new ROM. Well you can, but you'll have lots of corrupted software and may be putting back what was thoughtfully removed from the cooked ROM.
So a cooked ROM is something made up by an individual to replace the default ROM you get from the seller/manufacturer of the device (all THEIR customized crap).
A base ROM is like the absolute essential parts only, i.e. the WM6 ROM and those apps needed to retain the original functionality of the device as when you bought it....like a stripped down version. Then the developer adds what he thinks will make a fast and stable ROM. In this instance the developer Midget_1990 is doing this for the Athena Project, which was formed and funded by many members of Xda developers and some others from other forums and parts of the world, as this is not the common device for most PPC owners to have and we needed help in getting it unlocked (SIM free and capable of having any HTC Athena ROM being flashed to it, without bricking it).
Olipro (Developer 1 and top notch low-level programmer) has already fulfilled his obligation to the project, by developing and releasing the unlocking tools for the Athena and also made our devices virtually unbrickable due to his clever method of Hard SPL patching the Athena. Thanks Olipro.
Midget_1990 (Dev 2, VGA ROM Cooker) is to use his specialist knowledge of the VGA Universal (he's made some great ROMs!) to make an VGA WM6 based cooked ROM which will enhance and improve the basic functionality of the box-standard WM5 Athenas we originally bought. This is somewhat more time consuming, especially as 'WE' the project contributors and community here, have rather varied requests in what we would like to have in this first ROM. So finding the balance of what works best and doing the actual work and in some cases conversions (i.e. TrueVGA compatibility) is what Midget is up against.
As an incentive both developers were given an Athena each for themselves with an understanding between them and the contributors, that this 2 fold objective could be realized.
We're more than half way there with Olipro's Athena Unlocker and we'll soon have completed our objectives once Midget has released the first Cooked ROM...soon amigos.
So....let's be patient just a little longer and continue to play nice, after all, we will still need Midget to support this or future ROMs for the Athena if it still needs tweaking or amending e.g. Athena Project ROM v0.1 or 1.0, if you follow my drift.
Also it was clearly stated that the devs not be hassled or pressured by anyone, but that has already happened...let's hope no more.
Don't get me wrong friends, if any one is unduly rude or derogative towards you, you have every right to retaliate...only it's not in any ones best interest to argue on these types of forums.
Word to the wise; when this or any other developer releases a ROM in the future, we'd do well to read up well, before asking questions that may have been asked dozens of times before and try to point out what does not work with the ROM and why, if you know, or positive suggestions and feedback.
This is my last long post regarding this project. LoL yeah, thank God!! everyone cheers. ROFL. Seriously though, it's been a bit of a struggle but mostly rewarding and made some really cool new buddies on this forum.
Thanks to all of you in the Athena community and beyond, but most of all a big thanks should go to the financial contributors, without whom this project may never have taken off as soon as it did or even at all.
No more to say.
See you around in the forums.
P.S. If you have something negative to say, please PM who you are not happy with and let's keep this forum as a civilized developers forum for all interested parties.
And one more thing, if I may humbly ask all non-new members or visitors to NOT abuse newbies as they are by no means fools just because they are new to this and deserve our respect.
As others have mentioned before, if someone posts a stupid question or something that has been asked a thousand times, simply point them to the wiki or give them the right keywords to put in the search engine as the wiki is still under development.
Peace & Unity

well said. you should be a moderator mate.

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well said. you should be a moderator mate.
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agreed.

wOw mackaby007! TrueVGA compatibility??? is it possible? i can't w8 for! i really suggest high rank admins to make u and some others the admins of athena! hope to see u soon! (not u mackaby007! i'm with our little nutty,sweet, cooked ROM!!!)

Mackaby007 -> Very well said. Thank you.

Lots of good ROMS: how to choose?

Hi everyone and thanks to all the coockers that are working on new beta roms for our Polaris.
I've read all the 3d about the different coockers/release and I can say for me it's not easy to try all of them.
It's also difficoult to stay updated on every release news, fix and so on.
For me would be VERY USEFULL a 3d in which summarize avery release with all the caratheristics, positive and negative fatcs and so on.
What did you think about it?
Bye

HELLO i agree with you..

It's a good idea, but I'm not sure you'll find a quick reply.
The main trouble with the Touch Cruise is it's limited implementation globally. With the only US supporters having to import it, and the high price pretty much everywhere, I've noticed the general Polaris "community" isn't nearly as positive or helpful as the Kaiser thread community is. That doesn't mean EVERYONE is a jerk, but it's frustrating to have come from a device and forum where there were tons of people with a positive attitude, all sharing ideas. Here, it seems like most people just ***** about the device they bought, with only a few people (most in the upgrading forum) looking to make the most of it and improve it.
I've been waiting for someone to release a Diamond rom that would work on the Touch Cruise, simply because I like the analog clock look. But I don't have any real interest to force Office 2007 on myself, as I've used the app and don't see any real improvements over Office 2003. But this post isn't about which version of MS software is best.
Anyway... here's hoping the gurus of this forum stay upbeat, keep up the good work, and someone can "port" the Diamond VGA driver to the qVGA device. On the surface, it seems like a simple idea. But you have to wonder if the video chipset in the Polaris just isn't all that without more horsepower behind it, and maybe a better screen. Maybe that's why the Diamond is the new king of the pile. I'd love to upgrade to it, but just having bought my Polaris in Feb. or so, it will be a LONG time before I can justify ANOTHER new device.
Anyway, my compliments to the masters for all they do, and best wishes to those with a pretty cool phone!

My request is only trying to make an unique post in which all the coders can list their ROMS with the list of apps inlcuded and positive and negavite facts.
So when a new owner of the device came here can choose without loosing his mind in looking for informations in thousands of post.
That's all here....
Bye

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Hi everyone and thanks to all the coockers that are working on new beta roms for our Polaris.
I've read all the 3d about the different coockers/release and I can say for me it's not easy to try all of them.
It's also difficoult to stay updated on every release news, fix and so on.
For me would be VERY USEFULL a 3d in which summarize avery release with all the caratheristics, positive and negative fatcs and so on.
What did you think about it?
Bye
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its a good idea. but comparing various roms is a full time job and i'm afraid not many people have that kind of time.

This thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373233 has been around for a while with a list of Roms, I think thats the best you are going to get, it's just updated when it can be as far as I can tell but its came in usefull for me. Not sure if you missed it but it's been on the first page for a while. Unless I've missed the point and it's something else you are after?
The polaris is a good device and I've found help and support on these forums but its still quite new. I upgraded from the XDA Orbit and thats only been out just over a year I think, a lot of people bought in to 18 month contracts and so wont be upgrading for a while. I'd just bare with it and if you are unsure of anything, just ask.
My favourite ROM at the moment is Bepe's just because it's win 6.1, fast an clean then I've modified it to the standard I want by adding apps and tweaks. I've tried other roms but they are all at such early stages of development that a lot of them aren't really practical for day to day use as they can be very flakey. This won't last forever though.

Is anyone working on porting the drivers?

I wanted to know if anyone of the great ROM-Cookers or somebody else is working on porting the Kaiser 3D drivers to our polaris?

No driver port yet, moderator attention required !!
There are few threads out there on this topic. I even asked udK if he has the skills and time to implement this into his ROMs ... waiting for his reply.
I also wanted to start a poll on Donation for Kaiser's video driver port, but noone seems to second that, yet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2446896&postcount=628
Please check here for Polaris Video Driver Issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359991
This thread is way too long to get appropriate attention ... we should start a new one and hope for a moderator to make ist sticky in order to get more attention.
it got an update right now for fullscreen on Kaiser !!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=412185
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411225
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409769
You also asked udK in his brandnew GER R5 Diamond ROM, where I also thought it would get more attention
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411208

hi,
i support you in any way, but
first of all it makes more sense to let the developers finish the drivers for the kaiser, as there is no official 6.1 update for the polaris yet.
the fully drivers takes more time to develop and as soon as they got nearly finished, its maybe the time the polaris gets its official 6.1 update.
the official update is somewhen in august expected.
this is a developers forum and you can do with your time what you want, so feel free to investigate time in porting the htcclassaction.org driverset to polaris.
dont forget to contribute some respect for the real developers behind the drivers.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359991
This thread is way too long to get appropriate attention ... we should start a new one and hope for a moderator to make ist sticky in order to get more attention.
it got an update right now for fullscreen on Kaiser !!!
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i try to report it updates as fast as possible. its a sticky. all who are intresetd in this issue to solve can read.
threads gets long if its popular and since no developer took the initiative to make the driver compatible with the polaris i will further report the kaiser status.

Thanks for your reply manaaa
Thank you for your reply and also especially for updating your thread on this issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359991
You as a senior member probably know much more on this development than any other Polaris user within this forum.
You are perfectly right on letting the developers finish for the Kaiser first. Do you have close connections to the original developers or do you update from the Kaiser forum? I do have serious respect for these developers.
The thing is users get really confused and contents get obscured/not managable to follow up on this in different sub-forums. That is why a sticky thread in "Polaris upgrading etc." section http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=399 is useful from my perspective.
I tried to forward other threads towards yours. However this really needs a developer/ moderator attention.
Unfortunately my coding skills are not good enough for really contributing to this except trying to focus and channel the requests to get a critical mass towards this.

The drivers from Kaiser Forums are not working with the official Polaris (o2 orbit 2) WM 6.1 ROM!!!!
A member of the ppc-welt.info community had access to the offical beta of the polaris ROM and he tested the driver version from the 22. of july.
I hope the version from the 29. July will work!!!
thanks
P.S. do you think porting will be made by a cooker or can only the guys from htcclass.org port it to our polaris?

Any news about it?

sqeeza said:
Thank you for your reply and also especially for updating your thread on this issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359991
You as a senior member probably know much more on this development than any other Polaris user within this forum.
You are perfectly right on letting the developers finish for the Kaiser first. Do you have close connections to the original developers or do you update from the Kaiser forum? I do have serious respect for these developers.
The thing is users get really confused and contents get obscured/not managable to follow up on this in different sub-forums. That is why a sticky thread in "Polaris upgrading etc." section http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=399 is useful from my perspective.
I tried to forward other threads towards yours. However this really needs a developer/ moderator attention.
Unfortunately my coding skills are not good enough for really contributing to this except trying to focus and channel the requests to get a critical mass towards this.
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hi,
sure it would be better to open a single thread that has the port-from-kaiser attention.
i'm actually just keeping you updated in the general polaris forum.
i'm in no relation with the real developers behind these drivers, but as an informatics student i recommend to wait for a full driver they develope. i for my own dont want to re-invent the wheel while modifying.. but in other aspect it could maybe help the real developers.
in the case there are some genius polaris developers out there and want to look into the issue kaiser-port..feel free to share your knowledge!
as nushrike answered me .. 'get a ddi from kaiser working' then it could/would/should work. but that is cooker-related.
i for my own tried to cook some stuff and it made me nuts sometimes. im just too busy to investigate more time in it. as a sidenote, you may see some usefull app with alot features in the hacking and development section soon. but even this lil project has no priority.
im aware of the beta-tester in the german ppc community and asked chainfire for what files we would need to look into, but no response yet.