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TomTom on the MDA Compact III?

Hi there,
I am new to the sat nav scene; really need one that is as portable as my mobile so as it is upgrade time I thought it best to kill 2 birds with one stone.
I’m looking for info on how you installed tom tom on your mda iii compact from tmobile. I’m going for the one without co-pilot so do I simply need to order the software from tom tom and which type? And what is the set-up process like in terms of difficulty?
Thanx 4 your help…
Mikolo

It works
You would need to order TomTom Navigator. The PDA-Version is called "Navigator".
Since you already have a GPS receiver inside the MDA Compact III it would be enough to get the "TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & Maps of Western Europe on DVD" - Package. I don't know if it is possible to get one map only -- let's say UK. You have to look that up on the website www.tomtom.com. They have a section where you can buy and download maps. This would be cheaper than ordering the DVD but I don't know if you still need to buy the Navigator software itself. (Also check out Amazon.)
To store the map(s) on the device you will need a microSD memory card. Depending on the size of your map get a card with enough memory and keep in mind that you perhaps want to have some free space left to store other things on it ...
If you ever installed software, it will not be any more difficult to install TomTom. Copy your map to the Storage Card. You must activate the map via www.ttcode.com once before you can use it. When setting up GPS in TomTom, I set it to: "Other NMEA GPS", 57600 baud, COM4
Which COM-port to use can be seen in Start -> Settings, System tab -> GPS
The port that is displayed there should be selected in TomTom. And I also think, 4800 baud may do it as well.
As far as I am concerned, TomTom works just fine on the MDAc3 and setting it up is easy.
One final remark: According to my information T-Mobile UK does not sell the Wi-Fi version of the device where T-Mobile NL does sell it WITH Wi-Fi. I don't know if you care about that. Just wanted to mention it.

EvilPati said:
You would need to order TomTom Navigator. The PDA-Version is called "Navigator".
Since you already have a GPS receiver inside the MDA Compact III it would be enough to get the "TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & Maps of Western Europe on DVD" - Package. I don't know if it is possible to get one map only -- let's say UK. You have to look that up on the website www.tomtom.com. They have a section where you can buy and download maps. This would be cheaper than ordering the DVD but I don't know if you still need to buy the Navigator software itself. (Also check out Amazon.)
To store the map(s) on the device you will need a microSD memory card. Depending on the size of your map get a card with enough memory and keep in mind that you perhaps want to have some free space left to store other things on it ...
If you ever installed software, it will not be any more difficult to install TomTom. Copy your map to the Storage Card. You must activate the map via www.ttcode.com once before you can use it. When setting up GPS in TomTom, I set it to: "Other NMEA GPS", 57600 baud, COM4
Which COM-port to use can be seen in Start -> Settings, System tab -> GPS
The port that is displayed there should be selected in TomTom. And I also think, 4800 baud may do it as well.
As far as I am concerned, TomTom works just fine on the MDAc3 and setting it up is easy.
One final remark: According to my information T-Mobile UK does not sell the Wi-Fi version of the device where T-Mobile NL does sell it WITH Wi-Fi. I don't know if you care about that. Just wanted to mention it.
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Hi EvilPati
Thanx for the very useful information. I checked with Tom Tom site and can get NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & regional maps on memory card, Smart & easy navigation on your PDA/mobile phone for £68.42 then I’ll order the T-Mobile MDA Compact III without Co-pilot.
But I’m a bit worried about the Tom Tom version because when ordering you have to a list of MDAs from T-Mobile and the list does not include MDA Compact III.
It lists
• MDA Compact
• MDA III
• MDA PRO
Does this make any difference?
I am not too fused about Wi-Fi but still think its handy though…
Regards
Mikolo

Tom Tom 6 runs very well on my MDAC3.
Regards

I think it does not make any difference because the operating system platform is Windows Mobile 5 or Windows Mobile 2003 SE and both of them are supported by TomTom Navigator 6.
I have installed TomTom v6.0 on a T-Mobile MDA Compact 3 myself and it runs just fine.
Just get a microSD and copy the content of the TomTom memory card to it and I am pretty sure it will work. TomTom is great and the MDAC3 is a sweet device. Go for it.

Hi all.
I have an MDA compact 3 and I am having difficulty getting tomtom navigator 5 to communicate with the built in GPS. I would be gratefull if someone could enlighten me how to set this up......or point me in the direction of a tutorial.
Thank you in anticipation.
Tony.

How to set up GPS in TomTom 5
Similar to my answer from post #2:
First, you have to check to which COM-port the internal GPS receiver of your device is assigned to. Go to: Start -> Settings, System tab -> GPS
Set "GPS program port:" to COM4 (this is the default, other ports might also work).
In TomTom set your GPS settings to
"Other NMEA GPS"
"GPS baud rate:" 57600 or 4800 (both should work)
"GPS is connected to:" COM4 (from system GPS settings)
TomTom is sometimes picky when radio of the device is switched off. TomTom will show "No GPS device!" and "Flight mode". In this case, TomTom might not be able to access the GPS receiver.

EvilPati said:
You would need to order TomTom Navigator. The PDA-Version is called "Navigator".
Since you already have a GPS receiver inside the MDA Compact III it would be enough to get the "TomTom NAVIGATOR 6 - Software & Maps of Western Europe on DVD" - Package. I don't know if it is possible to get one map only -- let's say UK. You have to look that up on the website www.tomtom.com. They have a section where you can buy and download maps. This would be cheaper than ordering the DVD but I don't know if you still need to buy the Navigator software itself. (Also check out Amazon.)
To store the map(s) on the device you will need a microSD memory card. Depending on the size of your map get a card with enough memory and keep in mind that you perhaps want to have some free space left to store other things on it ...
If you ever installed software, it will not be any more difficult to install TomTom. Copy your map to the Storage Card. You must activate the map via www.ttcode.com once before you can use it. When setting up GPS in TomTom, I set it to: "Other NMEA GPS", 57600 baud, COM4
Which COM-port to use can be seen in Start -> Settings, System tab -> GPS
The port that is displayed there should be selected in TomTom. And I also think, 4800 baud may do it as well.
As far as I am concerned, TomTom works just fine on the MDAc3 and setting it up is easy.
One final remark: According to my information T-Mobile UK does not sell the Wi-Fi version of the device where T-Mobile NL does sell it WITH Wi-Fi. I don't know if you care about that. Just wanted to mention it.
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Thanx for that.
I am going to order the MDA compact III at the end of my contract which is in 9days time but I just wanted to ask about memory card.
I assume it comes with one, but as you mentioned earlier and I’m getting the impression I will need to get one or one a with a bigger capacity to store the tt6 and allow some extra space for other bits?
What size microSD memory card do you recommend?
Regards,
Mikolo

mikolo said:
Thanx for that.
I am going to order the MDA compact III at the end of my contract which is in 9days time but I just wanted to ask about memory card.
I assume it comes with one, but as you mentioned earlier and I’m getting the impression I will need to get one or one a with a bigger capacity to store the tt6 and allow some extra space for other bits?
What size microSD memory card do you recommend?
Regards,
Mikolo
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Biggest you can afford. At the moment 2gig is what I use without any problem. Don't be stingy on memory as this card is "burried"inside and below the sim card

Maybe you are 2 stops from dagenham
Please Mikolo...find the pun in this...

AD10 said:
Maybe you are 2 stops from dagenham
Please Mikolo...find the pun in this...
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sorry no need for that..
Anyway new development
Got my mda iii compact late last month and finally tried to install the tom tom 6 software eagerly last night but found navigator 6 came on an sd card not micro sd. So I dashed out in the snow to get the card but hit a little problem which meant the pda didn’t recognise the software but this was resolved on my 2nd attempt. At one stage I called Tom Tom tech support for help and they wouldn’t assist and I quote “mda compact iii is not compatible with navigator 6”. What do we know hey?
I’ve set up the COM ports as advised and it seems ok. I am yet to take it for a test drive but I’ll let you know how it goes.
Thanx for all your help guyz!

Tomtom 6.02 or even 6.03 will have the built-in gps receiver option.

Bear in mind please that this is both my first PDA, wnidows mobile device and satnav, newbie on 3 fronts here, dont assume I know anything at all and may have messed up settings trying to get it to work, I'll happily do a factory reset if it will help....
Anyway...
EvilPati said:
Similar to my answer from post #2:
First, you have to check to which COM-port the internal GPS receiver of your device is assigned to. Go to: Start -> Settings, System tab -> GPS
Set "GPS program port:" to COM4 (this is the default, other ports might also work).
In TomTom set your GPS settings to
"Other NMEA GPS"
"GPS baud rate:" 57600 or 4800 (both should work)
"GPS is connected to:" COM4 (from system GPS settings)
TomTom is sometimes picky when radio of the device is switched off. TomTom will show "No GPS device!" and "Flight mode". In this case, TomTom might not be able to access the GPS receiver.
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I have set my GPS programport to com4
I have tried with hardware port "none" and "com3"
Tried with baud rate of 4800 and 57600.
with auto manage on and oFF
I have set tomtom up with Nmea with baud at 4800 and 57600
and set the com port to "com4" and GPS.
I still get the No GPS device! message.
What is meant when EvilPati said "when radio of the device is switched off" and "TomTom might not be able to access the GPS receiver"
How do Find out if the fault is:
system set up (I've cocked up windows mobile v5)
Hardware (GPS is broken or not configured)
tomtom (I've not set it up right)
I've got the system over the internet, I've got 3 days left to change my mind (distance selling regs in the UK give you 7 days to change your mind) I want the GPS or it goes back.
Thanks
Egon
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Ignore me,
It works now.
God knows what I did differnt this time, musta looked at it funny and it felt sorry for me.
You guys musta scared it into working......
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No GPS Device!
glad to hear you sorted your gps problem, I'm having same. I have the HTC P3300 direct from HTC. can you tell me your settings?
fel699

Dunno what I did.
After messing up my memory card (Lost the maps, me stoopid ) I've just had to reinstall it. And it took an hour to sort out.
Right, first off, the signal inside any building is PANTS, you need to be out side for the device to get a good signal, after all it keeps telling you there is no signal.
Second.
be patient, it takes a while for it to get a lock, sometime it may take 2 mins (sometimes it's instant)
For several attempts with the above settings it failed
I changed stuff like com port to 9, changed the voice, did a soft reset.
Changed it all back again to com 4 and baud to 4800 (in tomtom and wm gps setting)
and second attempt it worked.
still no idea quite how it worked.
the trick is to be patient and be outside.
do it when your not in a hurry.
you can tell when its going to work, if you tap the "5 bar" thing that looks like a signal or battery meter at the bottom or right of your screen, it shows a new screen, tap the same bar meter and it will show a circle (compas), and a set of bars. if you have and dots on the compas, they're satalites. You need the bars to get 4/5 of the way up (just for a short while).
if I can help any more I will, but I'm busy for a few days so a reply may take a while.... sorry.

Tomtom v 6.030 on Tomtom site.
This version is supposed to correct start rapidity and built-in GPS drivers for our Artemis.

If you are having problems getting GPS working (TomTom)

Hope this helps someone else
Firstly here are the settings for GPS that get TomTom working on my HTC 3600i
Device - Settings / System / External GPS
Programs tab / GPS program port: COM4
Hardware tab / GPS hardware port COM9 / Baud rate 115200
Access tab / Manage GPS automatically (enabled/selected)
TomTom - Change preferences / Show GPS Status / Configure
Other NMEA GPS receiver / GPS baud rate 115200 / GPS in COM9
Make sure you have the a recent ROM installed (Windows Mobile 6 appears to connect faster than 5), some of the older ROM's for the 3600 don't have GPS enabled. I'm using the standard HTC 3.00.707.18. ROM.
Don't bother looking for a way to turn on GPS on the unit, this happens automatically, the only key here is to make sure that you have the correct settings & your device settings match up with TomTom.
Ensure that you are standing outside for GPS to connect, it may take up to 6-8 minutes for a cold sync (however should only take ~2 minutes).
To check if your GPS is actually working, go to show GPS status, if you see the message "GPS Device Not Found" it's not working properly, check the above steps again. If you see "No valid GPS signal!" this means your GPS is working, however not yet locked on-to satelites (you might also notice the blue and yellow circle spinning).
Hope this helps.
Cheers - Steve

Nice summary! It should be made sticky.
Just my 2 pennies: TomTom should be 6.03.
My config is: WM5, GPD1, COM9, baud rate 57600, and ticked "Manage GPS automatically".

ozsmac said:
Hope this helps someone else
Firstly here are the settings for GPS that get TomTom working on my HTC 3600i
Device - Settings / System / External GPS
Programs tab / GPS program port: COM4
Hardware tab / GPS hardware port COM9 / Baud rate 115200
Access tab / Manage GPS automatically (enabled/selected)
TomTom - Change preferences / Show GPS Status / Configure
Other NMEA GPS receiver / GPS baud rate 115200 / GPS in COM9
Cheers - Steve
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hi steve,
my GPS works fine and i have baud rate set to 4800. will it be more efficient to set the baud rate to the highest setting 115200, like yours? what is the real different in baud rate, really? please comment.

sfaguy said:
hi steve,
my GPS works fine and i have baud rate set to 4800. will it be more efficient to set the baud rate to the highest setting 115200, like yours? what is the real different in baud rate, really? please comment.
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Setting the baud rate to anything other than 4800 has no real effect as the amount of data being transferred is minimal.
For any version of tomtom prior to 6.03 you would set your TT preferences to "other NEMA". Version 6.03 and 6.032 automatically select "internal GPS receiver" so there is no need to change anything.

Thanks ozsmac...worked beautifully...
I can also vouch that this works for TomTom 5.21.
Cheers!!

Quick GPS FIX
Using Trinity, I use this proggy "BEELINE GPS" with this programme u get a real quick GPS fix .
get a look here :
http://www.visualgps.net/BeeLineGPS/
if u wanna the proggy, look on the net or if needed i can download it here.

Im having only gray dots on the GPS Status! and it still say, No Valid GPS, I did the settings as mentioned in first post. any help is appreciated ahhh one more thing, Im trying it on Athena, so am I on the wrong thread? sorry if I am

Gps port?

Hi,
would like to know which port is for the internal GPS system, I deleted the pre installed tomtom navigator and try to install tomtom navigator6.0 This program prompt me for a GPS port and I don't know which one.
Could you help me?

Hi,
this is what works for me:
WM5: port 4, speed 4800, internal GPS receiver
WM6: port 5, speed 9600, Other NMEA receiver
In the settings: same data and check "automatic management" (or the like, I
have an italian OS)
Hope this can help
Mauro

With AP Touch Rom 3.0 on Google Maps I have to choose port 4 with 57600.

pumats said:
Hi,
this is what works for me:
WM5: port 4, speed 4800, internal GPS receiver
WM6: port 5, speed 9600, Other NMEA receiver
In the settings: same data and check "automatic management" (or the like, I
have an italian OS)
Hope this can help
Mauro
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via Settings->System->GPS I can select the com port on my T-Mobile Ameo DE
on TomTom you choose other NMEA receivers.

hi
in settings under external gps it asks for
programs .> gps program port ????
Hardware -> gps harware port -> i set it to com 4 57600
access - manage it autimatically is checked
and gps does not get any setting s in google maps
just says seeking sattleites ????

Hi.
In settings>system>external GPS:
GPS program port: WM5 -> com4, WM6 -> com5
Hardware : WM5 -> none, 4800, WM6 -> none, 9600
manage it automatically: checked
In TomTom (GPS status):
WM5: internal GPS, 4800, com4
WM6: other NMEA receiver, 9600, com5
These settings work for my device, hope it helps.
Mauro

On Google Maps and Delorme Maps I get "searching for satellite" when the settings are right, but it hasn't locked-on yet. When the settings are wrong, I almost instantly get an error message. So I'm guessing if you see "searching..." you have your settings right.
As for finding a signal, the achille's heel on this unit is locking on when you are inside (either a building or even some cars). Outside or inside my car it will lock on in 20-30 seconds, sometimes sooner. Inside my house or office it will fail 98% of the time. The sirf/star unit attached to my Palm will lock on inside my house - in the middle of the 1st floor - in under 20 seconds.
I think with all the trade-offs they had to make to get all 4 antennas to work together without interference, the signal strength on the internal GPS antenna got the short straw. I have top-notch strength on the cell and bluetooth antennas, so obviously they got top priority. I don't use wifi so I don't know how well it works, but the gps signal strength could use some work for the future X7502...

GPS, TomTom
I have a T-Mobile Ameo and recently I have installed TomTom Navigator 6.
when I start TomTom it takes between 5-20 minutes before it gets connected with a satellite.
Is this normal, or is there a problem..?
if not, what should I do to resolve this problem..?
grtzz,
Avicenna

GPS setting for my TyTN II

I have WM 6.1 and now my Tom Tom isn't working.
My TyTn II has Tom Tom Navigator. It was working but isn't at present since I transferred everything to a new memory card. One of the forums said I should set it up to use NMEA GPS receiver...how do I go about doing it?
Thanks!

gps
on your phone goto settings system external GPS choose a port (com 4 is mine ) on program tab then goto hardwear tab and choose hardware port ( mine is 7) baud rate move to 9600 then goto access tab and make sure there is a tick in the box manage gps automatically press ok
now start tomtom up goto change prefrances 3rd screen you will see show gps status press that then configure choose other nmea gps receiver press select slide gps baud rate to 9600 select done next screen is the 2 com ports you chose in step 1 on your phone choose the top port for gps is connected to and it should now all work
good luck
DREA

lairdturner said:
I have WM 6.1 and now my Tom Tom isn't working.
My TyTn II has Tom Tom Navigator. It was working but isn't at present since I transferred everything to a new memory card. One of the forums said I should set it up to use NMEA GPS receiver...how do I go about doing it?
Thanks!
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i had a similar problem when i changed my ROM from the windows mobile official 6.1 to a cooked ROM ( currently using Yardie 2.1) i was able to connect to tom tom with no problems in some areas it would take about 5 or 6 minutes to connect other times it would be much quicker, but after i installed my new ROM my tom tom sometimes connected and sometimes it didin't and when it did it would take up to 20 minutes. so i did some searching and found GPSGate 2.6 and now my tom tom always connects with in a minute, only a couple occasions it took a little longer ( i was in the mountains of NH,USA) i dont have the thread but if you do a google search for GPSgate you should find it. hope this helps.

Sorry to hijack this thread but I would like to know if it is possible to use the GPS receiver with the Tytn II with the TOMTOM 6 software or is the only option to use an external gps reciever?

hi there.
i don't know why, but i cant set "choose hardware port ( mine is 7)"
after every attempt to change settings the port is set to none.
what could be the reason?

iso|ated said:
hi there.
i don't know why, but i cant set "choose hardware port ( mine is 7)"
after every attempt to change settings the port is set to none.
what could be the reason?
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i have the same problem

HTC touch pro and tomtom, strange problem

Hi,
I recently installed TTN 6 on my htc touch pro with US maps. Tomtom is able to locate and lock the satellites, and once it does that, tomtom behaves strangely. It shows the satellite location for 2 -3 seconds, and then for another 2 -3 seconds it shows "No GPS Device" and GPS is gone. Then again for 2 -3 seconds it shows the GPS location. This process repeats forever. I tested it for 30 min. The signal strength is almost full.
I have the following settings on the phone:
External GPS:
4800 Baud Rate / COM4
Tomtom settings:
Other NMEA Receiver
4800 Baud Rate / COM4
I have google maps installed too. It works fine with GPS with no such error.
Please let me know if something can be done to stop that annoying "No GPS Device"
Thanks in Advance

I have the exact same problem.

anjul_thegreat said:
Hi,
I recently installed TTN 6 on my htc touch pro with US maps. Tomtom is able to locate and lock the satellites, and once it does that, tomtom behaves strangely. It shows the satellite location for 2 -3 seconds, and then for another 2 -3 seconds it shows "No GPS Device" and GPS is gone. Then again for 2 -3 seconds it shows the GPS location. This process repeats forever. I tested it for 30 min. The signal strength is almost full.
I have the following settings on the phone:
External GPS:
4800 Baud Rate / COM4
Tomtom settings:
Other NMEA Receiver
4800 Baud Rate / COM4
I have google maps installed too. It works fine with GPS with no such error.
Please let me know if something can be done to stop that annoying "No GPS Device"
Thanks in Advance
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Hi,
Is the COM4 the hardware port in your settings ? And which is the softwareport then ?
I use HW COM8 and SW COM6 BAUD 115200 ; TT set to use COM6 ... runs like a charm.
Dirk

Tomtom
haai there
You better use the built in GPS receiver. Your port and baut settings are oke.