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I need to listen to MP3s throught the bluetooth headset.
I don't need a good sound quality - it's just for speech.
I just want to play that MP3 continuously (again and again) so I'd be able to put on paper as much as possible.
So is there a way to play a MP3 (or any other sound format) using the BT headset?
i think it require a bluetooth profile which the xda2 dont currently support
I use a SouthWing BT headset, bought on Ebay.co.uk for around £35.
It supports both the BT handsfree and headset profile, which the XDA2 supports too.
I can listen to MP3's or use it to take or make calls. You should be able to use any BT headset that supports the headset profile, most only support the handsfree mode.
MP3s through Bluetooth
I have a Plantronics M3000 headset when I bonded it with my XDA II I selected the option for the headset profile from BT Tools. When I switch on the headset mode from the Today Screen I get a bleep on the headset but no audio is transferred to the headset it still comes out of the speaker. Do I need to tweak any other settings?
Im guessing that the Plantronics is not fully compatable with the headset profile.
Thanks for any help.
Paul
Rudegar said:
i think it require a bluetooth profile which the xda2 dont currently support
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OK. Where can I get the required BT profile? Does the Widcomm driver have it?
It normally works on my PC - I can listen to all sounds form PC throught the BT dongle and BT headset. So it's just a question of driver. Where can I get it for my XDA2?
captin said:
I use a SouthWing BT headset, bought on Ebay.co.uk for around £35.
It supports both the BT handsfree and headset profile, which the XDA2 supports too.
I can listen to MP3's or use it to take or make calls. You should be able to use any BT headset that supports the headset profile, most only support the handsfree mode.
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Can u provide more details please? I couldn't find your mentioned headset from Ebay.co.uk
This ie the companies web site - http://www.south-wing.com/
When I was setting up the pairing on my XDAII it recognised the earpiece as having the headset protocol and asked if i wanted to connect using the headset profile or the handsfree profile, I chose the headset one. It still works perfectly as a handsfree earpiece but also allows me to listen to anything played with the windows media player, which i use for MP3's.
It also works with a PC using a bluetooth dongle, I use it as a handsfree phone for my home phone.
how does it handle music ?
i mean does it play one channel of the stereo
or does it play joind mono ?
to me listening to music with 1 ear is pretty useless
can you please also elaborate which rom version ? pocket BT tools installed or not? which BT stack?
the headset and handsfree profile are supported by MOST BT headsets
my jabra 250 suppprts both profiles, but I am never able to channel windows media output through the BT headset ((
so any info would be very insghtful
captin said:
This ie the companies web site - http://www.south-wing.com/
When I was setting up the pairing on my XDAII it recognised the earpiece as having the headset protocol and asked if i wanted to connect using the headset profile or the handsfree profile, I chose the headset one. It still works perfectly as a handsfree earpiece but also allows me to listen to anything played with the windows media player, which i use for MP3's.
It also works with a PC using a bluetooth dongle, I use it as a handsfree phone for my home phone.
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Hi captin,
I had a look on the website. It didn't mention that the handsfree can support xda2. Also, there's no info at all that it can be used to listen mp3.
Can u show us more how you do it?
Thanks
mp3
ok friend to use your headset with xda2 to lesson to mp3 you need widcomstck you can find in our fourm and kai blutooth headset batch you can buy from handango in 3 dollars and you can give to our fourms instool both and make pairing with your headset and thats work fine but only mono beacuse we need blutooth headset streo and in the market only mono thanks
captin said:
I use a SouthWing BT headset, bought on Ebay.co.uk for around £35.
It supports both the BT handsfree and headset profile, which the XDA2 supports too.
I can listen to MP3's or use it to take or make calls. You should be able to use any BT headset that supports the headset profile, most only support the handsfree mode.
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I think you must be the only person on the planet that has mp3 working through bluetooth without any patches/hacks/etc, can you please elaborate more because it doesnt work for anybody else.
I am using a Plantronics M1000 (M1500) with iMate 1.52.00WWE.
With Pocket Bluetooth Tools I can use it for Phone calls but not MP3.
Annoyances are -
1. I can't initiate dialling from teh Headset unless I dial from the phone and then hangup (even if BT permanently on).
2. If I leave BT permanently on the Headset battery goes flat very quickly in standby.
3. If a Call comes in on Call Waiting, the call transfers to the phone and I can't get it back to the Headset
Mike Sydney
Any more news on this? The world waits...
Bluetooth/XDA 11 Integration
Hi Guys,
Just thought I would let you know that New Answer Ltd have done bespoke integration work into Bluetooth headsets. For the application that you are talking about, it is possible to develop an app to run MP audio apps to any bluetooth headset. get intouch with [email protected]
Dan
Yesterday, I tried w/ Kai's Bluetooth Headset patch
I've found that it doesn't work with XDAII.
So, I'm still waiting for the new patch.
Besides, does anyone know what Tobias, Pocket Tools developer, is doing?
I've sent emails to him serveral timee But there is no reply. His website also stop progressing as well.
Headset Profile
So, the XDA 2 does not have the profile that allows MP3's to be played through a headset. But does anyone know a profile that allows voice dialing from the headset? South-Wing has voice dialing from the headset but captin is the only person i know who has it working on the XDA 2. Anyone got any suggestions?
Michael
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So, the XDA 2 does not have the profile that allows MP3's to be played through a headset. But does anyone know a profile that allows voice dialing from the headset? South-Wing has voice dialing from the headset but captin is the only person i know who has it working on the XDA 2. Anyone got any suggestions?
Michael
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Unfortunately, it's not as simple as just a profile. Since a third party voice dialing software has to be manually added to the XDA II (its not built in), the headset would have no way of knowing which application to "activate" when the headset button was pressed. The only way I see this happening is, if someone can hack the bluetooth stack to detect a headset button press, then route the command to a voice dial software installed on the XDA II. Ideally, the dll would have an interface that would allow you to select the application you want executed when the bluetooth headset button is pressed.
Rumor has it that the iPaq 6300 won't have voice activated dialing either - and it will have the best bluetooth software stack around, the Widcomm stack. If it won't support it, I wouldn't have much hope for the XDA II unless some hacker decides to give it a try. But it sounds like a lot of work.
Reply from South Wing
I sent a email to South Wing about compatibility with the XDA 2 and i got this reply
The XDA II does not support the Bluetooth hands-free profile which is used by the NeoVoice USB headset and gives access to the various hands-free mode features of the device.
However, it supports the headset profile also supported by the NeoVoice USB. This means you can make and receive calls perfectly and use functions of the headset like voice dialing.
Overall, without the hands-free mode capability, the features you would miss on are only the following ones: rejecting a call, transferring a call to the phone, last number redialing and disconnecting from the phone.
The headset is available online from expansys.com (type NeoVoice in the search box) where you may acquire the USB cable and car charger for little more.
There you have it from the horses mouth, hope this is some help
Michael
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However, it supports the headset profile also supported by the NeoVoice USB. This means you can make and receive calls perfectly and use functions of the headset like voice dialing.
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Hmmm. Interesting. But I still don't see how voice dialing can be supported through the headset. Again, the XDA II has no built in voice dialing software, so there's nothing to standardize on. Therefore, your only option is a third party dialing app. So, if you were to install something like Microsoft's Voice Dial, the headset would have no way of knowing that it needs to call the Microsoft Voice Dial EXE when you press the headset button. Other bluetooth phones that do support voice dial can use headsets that, when you press the headset button, can call standard API's that initiate the voice dialing capability on the phone. The XDA II does not have this standard API set.
Anyway, I'm still more interested in pushing standard sound like MP3's and audio books through the BT headset. But the voice dialing stuff is interesting nonetheless.
Hi guys...
have u seen this?
http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT420EX.htm
And now the question
Can u please have a look for me at the compatibility page... does that means anything for the XDAII?
Of course I mean as far as working as phone is concerned... of course the stereo audio would play.
Do any of u have or have tried the headphones? Do they work with the XDA in phone mode? Could they work?
If you don't know I would play guinea pig and order now!
Thanks,
Chris
from what the page says then it looks like will not be connecting to the xda2 using bluetooth but you just plugin the at minijack and the xda see it as a normal headset
and then the little box sendt the info to the headset
but of cause this would require you to use a minijack 3.5m to 2.5m converter
and you would not be able to use it for phone calls
Thank you... but why?
Dear Rudegar,
can I ask you why?
I do understand I would need the minijac converter and I would not be able to use the wired bottom for phone calls, but I tough I could still use the headset connected via BT for the phone call just as I did with my SE HBH-35 (before I lost it...).
Why you think I would not be able to use via BT? If I use BT tools?
Thanks!
Chris
it all comes down to how they made the device really
as i see it the headset connects to the box which connect to the minijack
maybe you can connect the headset directly to the bluetooth and not use the box
but the headset dont seem to have a mic
and the microsoft bluetooth stack dont support streaming audio over bluetooth from what i understand
as i see it then it dont matter if the headset is using bluetooth at all it could use any protocol to talk with the box
not sure about this but i do recall reading somewhere that the headset in the article does NOT work with the xda2. not sure if it's through this forum or another article. now if another chap could find that article somewhere...
a mate of mine living in hong kong tried using this headset with his xda and the bluetooth didn't work...unless of course he was doing something wrong so don't peg it on me
given that the bluetooth headset does not work with the xda2's bluetooth; the reason the converter may be needed is because the dongle might have a built-in 3.5mm jack. the xdas use 2.5mm jacks; thus needing the 3.5-2.5 mm converter. once you have the converter then basically you have the dongle piggy-backing on the xda...reminds me of the time i used a jabra bt with my xda1; the headset had an adaptor for non-bluetooth phones...downside was that you had the jabra dongle piggy-backing. the same could apply for the bluetake headset. you would need the dongle to be connected to the xda in order for the bluetooth to function.
i also recall reading that the bluetooth of the xda2 does not support wmp...
cheers
-r
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If you are looking for a Bluetooth headset for non Bluetooth device, this could be the solution!!!
Thank you, let me expain better!
Thanks to u all for all the replies to my question.
Let me be a little more spefic. There are 2 parts to how this headset works:
1) As a stereo headset connected via BT to the company's little box that connect to any 3.5 stereo jack (no matter what they are for... stereo, ipod, or XDAII bottom plug with an adapter).
For this use I have no dubt it would work since the 3.5 jack is same for everybody
2) As a headset (it supports both Headset and Hands-Free profiles) to pair with the XDA II as I would do with my SE HBH-35 for use as a phone only.
Would this bit work?
Thank you!
Chris
Rudegar:
"as i see it the headset connects to the box which connect to the minijack"
Correct for function 1
"maybe you can connect the headset directly to the bluetooth and not use the box"
My understanding is that u do this and through this connection u can use the headset only as a phone oyu need to ALSO connect to the box to also get stereo sound
"but the headset dont seem to have a mic"
It does
"and the microsoft bluetooth stack dont support streaming audio over bluetooth from what i understand"
It doesn't matter. I hope I would get audio streaming from the bottom 2.5 to 3.5 jack to little-box to BT to headset
AND
the phone function connecting the headset in (Headset or Hands-Free profile) to the XDAII. The only think I care about the stack is that it pairs with the headset in phoneheadset mode.
"as i see it then it dont matter if the headset is using bluetooth at all it could use any protocol to talk with the box"
Correct, but I still need the headset to be BT compatible with the XDAII to use function 2
Robson: thank you, I wrote the maker asking if there are any known issue with the XDAII
but lets say i'm riding a bike listening to music using the box
and the phone rings would the device automaticly drop the connection to the box and use the bluetooth bond to my xda2 to let me answer the phone ?
have anybody tried to connect a 2.5m headset the one that comes with the device and then bound a headset and see if the 2.5m headset interfear with the bluetooth when it rings ?
"but lets say i'm riding a bike listening to music using the box
and the phone rings would the device automaticly drop the connection to the box and use the bluetooth bond to my xda2 to let me answer the phone?"
I understand that by device you mean the headphones. I am not sure if it drops the connection or not, but u here the ring and when u answer it stops the music
I have attached the manual I found on the website
would be pretty cool to see a test of it with xda2 and maybe an ipaq so one could see if it would be even cooler if you were using the non ms bluetooth stack
I bought it!
I bought it!
I will let u all know if it works once arrives... I will have one week to test it or send it back.
I don't know if it would work much better with an Ipaq... as far as I know you can't get stereo audio out through BT from an Ipaq either...
i believe that the ipaq's bluetooth stack should support it but i'm not 100%
some guy in this forum did manage to get audio from his pc to his bluetooth headset but the quality was pretty poor
http://www.expansys.dk/product.asp?code=114076
the imate and xda2 and such are listed on the compatible list of this headset
but just how compatible we'll see when you or somebody else get hold of one and try it out
F**k what I said, it don't means s**t now...
Hi guys... got it yesterday... returning it today...
Qucik summary:
1) It worked fairly well as stereo headphone with the included box
2) It paired with the XDAII, but the audio was very ppr with a lot of eco and the botton to answer or close the call did not work with the original BT (1.52) nor with BT Tools.
Sorry guys....
wonder if it would have worked better with the WidCom stack
Did you try contacting their tech support at all? Usually companies with a new product like that are willing to work with users.
Yes I did
Yes, I did contact them:
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 06:07:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian
Subject: Compatibility with XDAII
To: [email protected]
Hi!
Can I use the i-PHONO BT420 EX Hi-Fi Sports Headphone Kit with an XDAII/iMate/QTek2020/OrangeM1000? (They are different names for the same pda/phone produced by HTC).
Are there any known issues?
Let me expain better myself:
1) I know and I am aware I cannot get stereo audio out of the PDA through BT from any application unless I connect the stereo jack to an adapter that get me to a 3.5 jack to connect to the BT transmitter box
2) What I would like to know is if I could pair and use the headphones with the BT of the the XDAII just for the phone part (as I would do with any other BT headset), so getting the mic and speaker to work
Thanks,
Chris
I go no answer... in the mean time I managed to buy, receive and send it back.
Hi cchris
Here you have one working Bluetooth stereo headset.
I have bought it for 1 1/2 month ago and works great with the Xda II
Here is the link.
http://www.sonorix.com/~tven/eng/product/product_bap.php
It work as a bluetooth headset with a 128M mp3 player.
If you listen to music and if you receve a call the the mp3 goes down and you can answer the call.
You receve a USB Dongel witch you can connect to the PC and listen to stereo music t ex.
Regards
Josef
Sounds Great but...
Thank you JoseF!
It sounds great!
I believe u mean the BT Headset on the link given (the BT Stereo Headset is reported as not yet available)
If I understand u correctly, by saying it works great with the XDAII you mean that it pairs. Can I ask a few questions:
-does it has a botton to push to answer/close phone calls, and does it works with the XDAII?
-is there a way to also get the stereo sound from the XDA? I don't care if I need to use dongles or third part audio to BT things... but can I do it?
I just bought a 1GB SD card, I don't want to carry a separate device for MP3, I would like to do everything from the XDA, also get the audio from the movies I play with the thing!
Thank you!
Chris
P.S.: By the way where did u bought it/where do u think I can get the best price for it?
Hi Chris,
does it has a botton to push to answer/close phone calls, and does it works with the XDAII?
Yes it has a botton to push to answer.
-is there a way to also get the stereo sound from the XDA? I don't care if I need to use dongles or third part audio to BT things... but can I do it?
No,not at the moment, It will be possibel in the future.If sameone can make the widcomm stack to work (h6315).
I dont know if the device is available at the moment.I have a friend that bought one in Januari,It was just 64M storage.
I bought mine in Juli , They have change the storage to 128M.
If you are intrested contact khcoi . Take a look at FAQ at http://www.sonorix.com/~tven/bbs/rboard.php?id=e_qa
Regards
JoseF
Dear All,
I have been for the past 3 weeks trying to know if it's possible to write an
application that would send/receive the phone audio conversation to a pc if
the device is places on the cradel?
What i want to do is to use my pc's mic and speaker as a headset. I was
thinking that this can be done, since a friend of mine has bluetooth on his
laptop, i paired my phone with his laptop via bluetooth, and one of the
services provided was Audio Gateway, and used his laptop's mic and speakers
as a bluetooth headset.
I wonder how this is implemented since i want to do something like that over
the Cradel connection. or any other media as a matter of fact
Your help is really appreciated
Mustafa Rabie
You've got the answer in your post. Simply get a bluetooth adapter that preferably has widcomm drivers (I know they work like this). Set it up as an audio gateway and pair with it, hopefully you should now be able to use it as a headset.
Is there any pc program to emulate the functions of a bluetooth headset like answer the call or reject it, display the caller number?
hi all thanks for your replies:
fruitloaf - i think u didnt get my question. I want to emulate that, i want to write an application on the PPC Phone that when i answer i can capture the audio convo (mic/speaker) and transfere it to the PC maybe via the pass through when the device is on the cradel.
jacusi1980 - i will write an application on the PC that will handel the answering, dialing, rejecting etc. Which also i would like to know how can i control the answering rejecting etc remotely.
Thanks
does anyone know if streaming to more then 1 BT headset at the same time is possible ? IF so, how will they be paired to the Phone and do they have to be the same brand Model ?
Thanks in advance for your inputs
Sorry, only one bluetooth device can be active at a time. There's another consequence to this: you can't be listening to your bluetooth headset and expect your bluetooth GPS to connect either.
so no such thing as having you and your wife listening to the same music while jogging in the park... very sad
Yet thanks for your input
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Sorry, only one bluetooth device can be active at a time. There's another consequence to this: you can't be listening to your bluetooth headset and expect your bluetooth GPS to connect either.
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Not so; I'm doing both at this very moment, listening to MP3s over A2DP and getting GPS data. The Wizard seems to be keeping up pretty well in spite of its slow processor; I've only had a couple of short dropouts on the audio.
hmmm... couldn't get mine to work. Your GPS is bluetooth? I also can't get my car handsfree to work when I'm listening to mp3s using my HP A2DP headphones.
If this is the case then the Microsoft Bluetooth stack sucks. Bluetooth is ABLE to connect up to 7 devices. In other words, when in A2DP mode, you SHOULD be able to share the sound with up to 7 clients. And if you only have one client to send sound to, then you SHOULD be able to connect to 6 different Bluetooth devices that do different things (e.g. GPS, keyboard, printer etc)
If the MS stack can't do that 7-to-7 kind of sharing, then it's a crap stack.
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If the MS stack can't do that 7-to-7 kind of sharing, then it's a crap stack.
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Good point... But how would i know if it can or can't do such thing. how do you pair 2 headphones to one phone... how would that work. You pair one you loose the other ? not sure...
i seem to get handsfree phone only when i connect the omnia 7 to my FMT300 BT handsfree car kit. I cannot stream music !
the FMT300 works fine with my BB Torch and HTC Desire
is this to normal?
Handsfree Device is the only Bluetooth profile supported by WP7 currently.
thx for your reply, and what a big disappointment.
so why do they post it in the specs if it doesnt work ?
http://www.samsung.com/nl/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification
very misleading !
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thx for your reply, and what a big disappointment.
so why do they post it in the specs if it doesnt work ?
http://www.samsung.com/nl/consumer/...dex.idx?pagetype=prd_detail&tab=specification
very misleading !
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Disappointing! I remember WinMo 6.x had pretty much every Bluetooth profile under the sun! I'm going to try it with my BT headphones... see if anything happens.
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Disappointing! I remember WinMo 6.x had pretty much every Bluetooth profile under the sun! I'm going to try it with my BT headphones... see if anything happens.
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Done! I turned on Bluetooth and my headpones appeared instantly (as "headset"). Connected fine. I can play music through my Bluetooth headphones - tried using a marketplace sample as I don't store music on my phone.
@CreepinJesus,
thx for giving this a try, this made me give it a go at my older Parrot PMK5800 kit and guess what, the Omnia 7 was happy to pair and play music with this kit.
"can't have it all" i guess, but at least it proves a2dp over bt could work
cheers
Perhaps it only allows music playack over headphone devices and not hands-free kits? I don't have a hands-free thing to test it with.
I've been able to play music through A2DP to my Sony Ericcson MW600 headset no problem. A2DP is definitely supported by Windows Phone 7.
There is however, an issue with video. Video sound still comes out of the phone speaker, and is not sent over Bluetooth. It's an issue with WP7, not the phone and hopefully will be fixed in an update.
I can stream music over my Motorola T505 car speakerphone just fine
Enclosed the reply from the supplier (Technaxx):
"The music stereo streaming depends on the mobile phone functions.
Check if your mobile phone can be connected with the transmitter over the A2DP protocol.
(Some phones need to be connected with 2 separate BT profiles: BT Headset and A2DP)"
no clue what this all means.
As far as I can see the Omnia does not allow for any settings, right?
it just connects and one hopes it works
this apposed to my BB Torch where i can set different kinds of connections, the Omnia has no settings at all.
A2DP is the profile it needs to use for music. I think your headset is connecting only with the headset profile, so it cann't play music.
I'm not sure if you can set profiles... If you can, somehow, you need to set your headset to use A2DP, then you will be able to play music through it.
Thx for your reply.
The thing is the "headset" is an FM carkit and A2DP works fine when i connect any of my other phones (Palm Pre, Palm Plus, BB Torch and HTC Desire). In all these cases i get both handsfree phone and music streaming. No special settings needed. These phones also all allow me to change the type of connection from within the phone afterwards.
None of that when i connect the Omnia 7. Al i get is handsfree phone calls (a handsfree connected confirmation window pops up). No other connections ...
So i really think it is an Omnia 7 "absence of settings" compatibility problem. There are no settings available in the phone.
I am using my BB Torch at the moment also because market is not available in the Netherlands ...... not much fun with this phone
dont know what happened but i gave it another try today and now it seems to be working.
unbelievable ...
the thing is you still do not get to see the profiles that have been set but it works ..
thanks everybody for the support ...