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Hi Guys.
I had a quick search for this but other than posts about the button lock "when off" thing, which I have enabled, I can't find a fix for this, what I consider to be, bug/fault/failing.
The thing which really really gripes with me is the dumb buttons all around the edges of the Universal. Sure, when the phone is off, they are disabled, but what about when the phone rings ?
I grab the phone but have to try to dance around any and all buttons because as soon as it gets a call it wakes and the buttons become live.
I've had to forget having the phone in it's case (I tried a krussell case for it but it stresses the screen hinge) because you have to wail away on the keys in order to get the thing out the case.
I could assign the functions of the buttons to <none> but it kinda negates them even being there.
A way to disable them when off and also on call receipt would be just the ticket.
gee, I really hate this aspect and if I lose another call I swear I'll throw it out the window.
I dont really understand your concerns.
I use button lock, and they do lock without a problem.
When my phone rings, the phone call buttons are active to accept or decline.
I also use the krussel case and didnt find any hinge stress, and had easy access to the answer and hangup buttons located on the hinge. mind use, i usually keep the clam closed so i had not problem accessing any of the buttons, ever.
I have also extended the ring time from the 10second default to the 30 second maximum available, so I am not in any rush to answer the phone in the first place, and dont need to visually see who is calling as I accept all incoming calls, or decline all incoming despite who it is. so simply pressing the green button located on the hinge is easy.
so alas, I dont understand your problem.
But when your phone rings, the other external buttons are also active, camera etc. So, when dragging the phone out of a pocket or it's case, you are almost bound to catch one of those butons or, as has happened, the Red call-end button on the side.
marcuskeeler said:
But when your phone rings, the other external buttons are also active, camera etc. So, when dragging the phone out of a pocket or it's case, you are almost bound to catch one of those butons or, as has happened, the Red call-end button on the side.
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I tested this on mine and whilst you are right about the buttons being active, the phone answer/ignore window stayed foremost regardless. In my case i tested a button I have assigned to notes and the notes window appeared underneath the call window.
As with previous comments I really don't see the issue as anything more than trivial, especially considering the buttons size and pressure required to activate it. Perhaps someone will (or has) write a little utility to disable the buttons except for the phone answer/ignore. In the meantime I wouldn't worry about it.
Using a SPV M5000 and keep it in the leather/elastic holster provided with the phone, and have the same problem with loosing calls whilst extracting the phone from the holster. My rings before going to answer service is set at 30 secs, and that makes no difference.
Just need to find a decent case which doesn't interfere with any of the buttons.
sipat said:
Using a SPV M5000 and keep it in the leather/elastic holster provided with the phone, and have the same problem with loosing calls whilst extracting the phone from the holster. My rings before going to answer service is set at 30 secs, and that makes no difference.
Just need to find a decent case which doesn't interfere with any of the buttons.
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You could try this case. I loved my previous xda2 case and this is the closest I could get with a belt clip. Phone rings, I unclip, check the green (middle) phone button, press and answer. Finish and press red (end) phone button and reclip.
BTW I'm not at all related to the vendor.
I use my 8525 in a side case and when the phone rings I usually pull out the phone to see who's calling to decide if i want to answer... though 9 out of 10 times i accidentally hit the answer button. I always lock my phone via device lock on today screen... is there a reg hack or setting which will allow me to disable or customize ALL the buttons (when in lock mode) on the 8525 so I don't accidentally answer. to me if i were to assign a button (ie power or ptt) to only be allowed to accept a call (when the phone is in lock mode) that'd be great. I'm tired of auto answering and what good does a device lock do if you can easily auto answer?
bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?
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bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?
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Sorry you're not getting replies and I have no solution of the type you are looking for sadly. I've tried to replicate what you say happens but it's not easy!!! My key is not that easily pressed and I always put the device back with screen towards my body - my fingers don't seem to get very close to the green button.
This is probably daft to suggest but have you checked the setting that lets you specify auto answer within X number of rings - just in case it's answering the call by itself!!. (apologies if you checked this setting already!!)
Mike
This may do what you want...
http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=da5459e6aadc9c38d5a74b0276782091&board=19.0
Auto Answer is not set... the problem is (and it's a problem with the phone design) when the phone is locked none of the buttons respond until you hit the power button and then unlock the phone via the screen (which is good).
However when there is an incoming call or reminder the screen turns on and then a few buttons are active on the phone (send, end and the two soft keys seem to be). So when a phone call comes in, if the phone is in your pocket or the hip case while reaching for the phone it's VERY easy to accidentally press any of the active buttons and then accidentally accept or reject that call.
I've searched everywhere I can think of and I find little mention of this problem and no mention of a fix, most screen lock replacements only do as much locking as the WM5 built in lock does. The button re-activation after an incoming call is probably something built into the hardware. That's all I can deduce from this.
Thanks for the responses I've received so far.
I am on my fourth PDA phone and have used both Win Mobile 2003 and WM5. They all behaved this way and it is one of my biggest complaints with the Windows OS. I have seen apps for Palm that solve the problem. How hard could it be to have the option to only wake with the press of the power button?!
not hard at all, but the again its M$, i am surprised these devices to have ctrl-alt-del keys.
I use the Slide feature of my Niki to answer (and end via Slide actions app) calls.
I'd like to have this as the only way to answer a call, since when a call is incoming the device unlocks and the screen switches on. This means that it can get answered in my pocket if I don't hear it (or ignore it). I can also accidentally reject the call getting it out of my pocket.
Unfortunately, I can't seem to find a way of keeping the screen off/locked when a call is incoming. Does anyone know of a way to do this?
Download and try AE Button Plus. An idea: You could make a single press of the answer key "do nothing", and double pressing (which has to be done very quickly, thus unlikely whilst in your pocket) act like normal.
After i hang up on a call (when the phone is in sleep mode and the screen is locked) the screen unlocks. this is quite contrary to what is mentioned in the phone manual chapter 1 page 45. this becomes an issue since i use a bluetooth headset and the phone remains in its sleeve/case and after every call, a whole bunch of applications will launch since the case is in contact with the screen. have i overlooked some settings or are there other owners who have faced this issue?
ideas and suggestions welcomed
did you check it out if any of the hardware buttons being pressed against the case hence wakening up the phone.?
i had it to only closed al my apps in taskm and it stoped flickering
My HD2 is also behaving in the same way even in controlled test conditions - the phone unlocks when a call comes in (I'm presented with slide to accept or reject call) The phone unlocks during the call, but fails to lock again on disconnect (either by pressing "end call" or hang up via bluetooth).
Can anyone verify this? Is it interacting with something I installed?
I believe I found a (complicated) workaround.
What I want: leave HD2 inside pocket, answer calls with bluetooth headset, hang up and phone will go back to lock.
Problem: After I hang up using bluetooth or press the big red "End Call" button or the other party hangs up, the phone stays unlocked! It stays powered on and all kinds of buttons gets clicked.
Practically all lock sw uses their own lock screen (which I don't want to install). CSDevCtrl does not trigger by phone. TouchLockPro uses its own transparent lock screen but can respond to phone events. Using the !SUSPEND for TAPI\Ended under settings does not seem to work when the screen dims about 50 secs into the call.
Solution: Use TouchLockPro together with LockAndOff. Get TAPI\Ended to run LockAndOff will turn phone off, whether by bluetooth, big red "End Call" button, or the other party hangs up.
BTW: I think there is some confusion on whether the phone locks when you
1. press the big red "End Call" button, or
2. the hard "End call" button
in the forums.
I noticed that HD2 have a light sensor next to the top ear speaker.
During a call, if the phone is put near the ear and cover the light sensor , the screen become non-active which is good.
If anyone can come up with a lock sceen using this light sensor , then the problem with random launch of program when phone inside pocket will be solved.
This lock screen should only activated right after an end of call, beacuse , sometime you may want to use the phone in a dark place.
linivan said:
I noticed that HD2 have a light sensor next to the top ear speaker.
During a call, if the phone is put near the ear and cover the light sensor , the screen become non-active which is good.
If anyone can come up with a lock sceen using this light sensor , then the problem with random launch of program when phone inside pocket will be solved.
This lock screen should only activated right after an end of call, beacuse , sometime you may want to use the phone in a dark place.
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It's the proximity sensor that turns the screen on and off during a call, not the light sensor. How else would it work in the dark? (which it does)
johncmolyneux said:
It's the proximity sensor that turns the screen on and off during a call, not the light sensor. How else would it work in the dark? (which it does)
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My proximity sensor does not work, when I am getting a call my screen turn off and when I am taking the phone out from my face it turn on only when I am out side at the sun!! the screen stay off when I am inside room. I tested it with flsh light and it is working also.
I have a T-Mobile US version of the HD2. I am having the same problem when using the bluetooth system in my car. After answering or making a call the phone stay unlocked. And then starts making random calls while I am driving!!!!
There has got to be an easy fix for this!!!
Buy pocketshield, problem solved.
i have this unlock problem with 1.48 rom and i solve it by pressing start button and lock. after that everything works fine unless i change theme in settings. then just repeat first step.
Solved
Same trouble with me until I use the following software. I tried it and it's almost perfect. unzip it and just copy to your HD2, run CallerLoc.exe and click Yes, you'll find:when you hang up, or he/she hang up a call, or a call is established, the screen will turn off.
Why say 'almost perfect', the software is in chinese, but the filename is in english. and it's a call location software but with the function we need.
To stop or before you delete the software, run Callerloc.exe and click Yes again.
Hope this will help you. Sorry I don't find a English version of this software. I esure and I'm using this software perfectlly with my Leo.
theciscokid said:
Buy pocketshield, problem solved.
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Same for me
Greetings.
I understand this is quite an old thread I'm digging up but I need a little help as well and I didn't want to start a new topic just for that.
I've this silly problem, appeared right out of the blue:
You all know the standard manila behavior, when the phone is idle, the screen first dims and after some more time, depending on your preferences, the screen locks. It also locks if you press the power off button. This all was happening to me till this morning.
I added an event in the calendar (the only change I made today) and after that, my phone dims and then goes in sleep mode after the designated period of time, but DOESN'T lock!!! It doesn't even lock when I press the power off button. I can still lock it by pressing Start and then lock or by press and hold the power button and choose the lock phone option. So one would say that it's still operational, so why bother about it, but I kinda liked the standard function and I have to freaking idea why it changed!!!
I'd be most appreciative if you could offer some help with that.
Oh, I forgot to mention. Soft reset didn't solve the problem. Erasing the calendar event didn't either.
My phone runs the factory ROM (1.66.482.1 ELL), I haven't changed anything other than user settings (yeah, I'm a noob... )
Thanks in advance!
Nasos
Pocketshield could be the end of your problems. You can try it for 10 days and see how it goes...
But why do I need to buy third party software in order to revert my phone to it's original operation?
No, this is not the answer I am looking for. I was wondering if you know of any kind of settings that might have changed by accident and caused this undesired behavior.
Thanks.
The best to return to normal operation would be a hard reset. Or you can spend a while trying.
You can try
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Lockscreen\Enable=1
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Lockscreen\Active=1
Thank you very much. I opted for the hard reset option... I hope it stays ok this time!
My HD2 also had some strange unlocking and unwanted calling.
I noticed it appeared when using the android style lockscreen.
When I changed back to the original one, problem solved
i had this too. the andriod lockscreen seems to be a bit buggy last time i used it, i accidentially called 7 random numbers
Hi Guys,
I have been having issues when trying to end a call with the new WP7 Rom. I also used to have this when using Andriod Roms.
When I go to end a call, pressing the end call button does nothing apart from light up the keypad. I've tried pressing every button but nothing but the keypad lighting up happens, the call never ends! I have to remove my battery and switch the phone back on to get the use of my phone back.
I have :
HardSPL 2.08
MAGDLR111
Radio 2.15.50.14
Any Ideas?
Thanks,
Jon
jonathan.stowell said:
Hi Guys,
I have been having issues when trying to end a call with the new WP7 Rom. I also used to have this when using Andriod Roms.
When I go to end a call, pressing the end call button does nothing apart from light up the keypad. I've tried pressing every button but nothing but the keypad lighting up happens, the call never ends! I have to remove my battery and switch the phone back on to get the use of my phone back.
I have :
HardSPL 2.08
MAGDLR111
Radio 2.15.50.14
Any Ideas?
Thanks,
Jon
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Did you not try the end call on the screen? Not the hard one on the bottom right of phone
Russ
The screen turns off when making a call so the touch buttons are not available. This is why I have to remove the battery as I have no other way of bringing the display back to life. Obviously if I make a call and the other person hangs up it's fine. However if they do not answer and it goes to voicemail or I call my voicemail I get stuck in a never ending loop of press 2 to hear your messages.
jonathan.stowell said:
The screen turns off when making a call so the touch buttons are not available. This is why I have to remove the battery as I have no other way of bringing the display back to life. Obviously if I make a call and the other person hangs up it's fine. However if they do not answer and it goes to voicemail or I call my voicemail I get stuck in a never ending loop of press 2 to hear your messages.
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Official windows phones have no hard end call button, just the on screen one, therefor I dont think its possible to end a call with the hardware button. Yes, the screen goes off when making a call, but due to the proximity censor it should come back when you move it away from your head. If it does not, make sure its not covered, even a screen protector can block the proximity sensor. Its located next to the speaker.
Hmm I removed the screen protector and still no joy when I move the phone away from my face. The screen just remains black. I did crack the screen about 5 months ago and had it replaced, perhaps they've done a poor job on this....
Don't think so... My is in perfect shape. proximity works on android but not on wp7... i also can't press end call button.
same thing with me
well i get the same problem with mine also, is there anything we can do for that.
I have the same issue, though it only happens to me when calling my voicemail. I hit "end call" and it just hangs there with the message "Ending call..." and I have to pull the battery :/ Regular phone calls have been just fine though.
Finally cracked this one!
I have been experiencing this issue on my Optimus 7 phone since day one, on all firmware versions and I now have the latest update.
This is what worked for me:
-set the automatic brightness to off and choose any manual setting that suits your needs, I chose medium.
-set the screen timeout to never (not sure that this is necessary, I will change it back to 30 sec to see if the issue returns and post back)
I hope this works with your phones, it was really frustrating to pull the batery out. Good luck!
I've had this issue as well. Pressing the end call button on the screen won't end many of my calls, voicemail or to another person. But it's rare enough that it hasn't bothered me, too much. But is a problem that needs to be figured out, if possible.
We should come up witha way to re map the hard buttons to usefull use
jonathan.stowell said:
Hi Guys,
I have been having issues when trying to end a call with the new WP7 Rom. I also used to have this when using Andriod Roms.
When I go to end a call, pressing the end call button does nothing apart from light up the keypad. I've tried pressing every button but nothing but the keypad lighting up happens, the call never ends! I have to remove my battery and switch the phone back on to get the use of my phone back.
I have :
HardSPL 2.08
MAGDLR111
Radio 2.15.50.14
Any Ideas?
Thanks,
Jon
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I'm assuming your phone is an HD2. First of all, the call should automatically end when the other party hangs up. Secondly, just hit the Power button to turn the screen back on and then unlock the phone and hang up. What is so difficult? WP7 remaps the HD2 buttons so they don't work as they did in WM.
swangoose said:
I have been experiencing this issue on my Optimus 7 phone since day one, on all firmware versions and I now have the latest update.
This is what worked for me:
-set the automatic brightness to off and choose any manual setting that suits your needs, I chose medium.
-set the screen timeout to never (not sure that this is necessary, I will change it back to 30 sec to see if the issue returns and post back)
I hope this works with your phones, it was really frustrating to pull the batery out. Good luck!
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Worked. T H A N K S!!!