A little while ago, I saw a video of the first iPhone tests. When I saw the gesture & keyboard input using the fingers, I was thinking : I can do that as well...
So I developed my own finger input keyboard.
Since I don't have a mobile PC atm, I've only been able to run the demo on the pocket PC emulator.
Currently it feels a little slow to me, so I was wondering how it was holding up on a real pocket PC, and if anybody would be able to test it, and maybe even post a little video of the test-app in use.
I think atm the dictionary might have the biggest performance impact. In the current version I support about 75000 English words, while most predictive systems use a dictionary consisting of +/- 15000 words. If the performance part is lacking, I might try to reduce the dictionary to 15000 words also.
A few notes :
- currently only the keyboard support is available for WM5/6, so no gestures
- .Net compact framework 2.0 must be installed.
- only English is supported.
- the prediction is intelligent. a few examples of intended first matches:
* SURROGATE (input text : XUERMFSRE )
* TWEAKER (input text : YSRALDR )
* ABSOLUTE BEGINNER (input text : ZHDIMYTR JRHOKKER)
Since I don't have a pocket PC handy atm, I was also wondering if the finger input method is usable on a real Pocket PC. Please let me know what you think...
Here you can see a screen shot of the app in the windows emulator :
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
USAGE:
- Just type the words, and use space or ENTER to confirm the first match.
- Press clr to clear the current word.
- Press the text box containing the key input to use this word (currently the words do not get added automatically)
- further keyboard enhancements (QWERTY, numbers,... & skinning) will be developed in the future if this turns out to be usable.
Update 2007-06-19 : new version available (at the same link)
- performance improvements
- QWERTY,AZERTY & numeric keypad
- Tactile feedback (sound)
- ...
Update 2007-06-20 : new version available (at the same link)
- performance improvements after an online chat with tene
You can download it at this page .
Please test it and give me your feedback !!! Thanks !!
Did a test. Comments:
- Yes, it is slow. I had it in my SD, it took 10 seconds to start
- I can't type very fast on a non QWERTY keyboard, consider a QWERTY?
- Yes, it is slow, sometimes, when there are words matches, it takes a while before my next letter appear, and I thought I didn't poke it hard enough, and I get repeating letters
- There is no `back-space` on the keyboard + the previous problem, making testing very unconfortable.
- There seems to be a [] appearing whenever I choose a letter from the list
- I can use the hardware directional pad to choose the word that I want.
Anyway, nice work.. needs some improvements though
Thanks a lot !! You are the first person who actually responds (after about 60 downloads in the past week)...
hanmin said:
Did a test. Comments:
- Yes, it is slow. I had it in my SD, it took 10 seconds to start
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I will create a smaller dictionary in the next version, so it can load quicker
- I can't type very fast on a non QWERTY keyboard, consider a QWERTY?
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In the current development version QWERTY is integrated
- Yes, it is slow, sometimes, when there are words matches, it takes a while before my next letter appear, and I thought I didn't poke it hard enough, and I get repeating letters
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Dot you think some kind of feedback (a sound, or maybe virbration if possible) would improve this ?
- There is no `back-space` on the keyboard + the previous problem, making testing very unconfortable.
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I only implemented the CLR-key to clear a whole word. Maybe I should revise this, and turn it into backspace..
- There seems to be a [] appearing whenever I choose a letter from the list
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I will check this...
- I can use the hardware directional pad to choose the word that I want.
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I didn't even think about this, but it might be a good idea to use the directional pad. Thanks !
Anyway, nice work.. needs some improvements though
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Hehe, thanks for the info... now I know what to improve, I can get on with this...
If I fix most of the problems mentioned here, would you consider this a usable thumb keyboard ?
anyway whatever the outcome we should all appreciate someone who is trying something new, great work Tom - wish you good luck for the future
Hi,
I've tested it, the concept seems to work quite well, however it's a bit too slow for my device (200Mhz HTC Touch)... but I guess some improvment can be made.
Note that developing a custom SIP for pocket device require to write a in-process COM dll... so you'll need native.
Also a quick feedback
- think about UI feedback for keypress, it will make the app look faster.
- for a hand device, selecting the right suggestion with the finger is a bit hard (but hey it's a poc).
- I wonder, do you consider the tap position on the key? (for instance I press E, but I'm closer to R, so suggestion will go to E or R, not Z which is less likely).
sany said:
anyway whatever the outcome we should all appreciate someone who is trying something new, great work Tom - wish you good luck for the future
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Thanks a lot !!
tene said:
Hi,
I've tested it, the concept seems to work quite well, however it's a bit too slow for my device (200Mhz HTC Touch)... but I guess some improvment can be made.
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Hey, somebody from Belgium as well...
I will release a version with a smaller dictionary soon. The HTC touch was the device I had in mind while developing this app, so it is a pleasure for me to find out the concept in itself seems to work.
Note that developing a custom SIP for pocket device require to write a in-process COM dll... so you'll need native.
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Yes, I know... I was exploring the option of using system-wide mouse events (some kind of gesture to pop-up the keyboard) as an alternative, but the constant switch between native & .NET in the msgproc seems to slow down the pocket PC too much, so I will probably have to convert this into a native c++ app.
Also a quick feedback
- think about UI feedback for key press, it will make the app look faster.
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I will look into this
- for a hand device, selecting the right suggestion with the finger is a bit hard (but hey it's a poc).
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This also
- I wonder, do you consider the tap position on the key? (for instance I press E, but I'm closer to R, so suggestion will go to E or R, not Z which is less likely).
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Yes, I do, and I predict my words in order of the best matches first. But if E or R would not return enough word matches, I would turn to Z off course
When you consider the typing speed with this, how would you estimate it :
- better/worse then stylus keypad
- better/worse then 'graffiti'
- better/worse then some other method I never heard about.
If possible, could you give me en estimate of the amount of typed words/minute ?
TomJanssens said:
When you consider the typing speed with this, how would you estimate it :
- better/worse then stylus keypad
- better/worse then 'graffiti'
- better/worse then some other method I never heard about.
If possible, could you give me en estimate of the amount of typed words/minute ?
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Unfortunately: it's too slow to provide accurate result on my touch. The suggestion panel isn't usable by finger, so I can't provide such result... and I do speak french, so most of my messages are in french. Also I don't have much XP using PDA phone, based on my test, it was the most promising input however.
By the way, if you need help with the C++ version... contact me...
hello,
it crash on a qtek 9100 (Wizard is the US name I think)
it says : outofbound exception... I don't have the full error message.
I have the compact framework 2
Best regards,
Olivier
Please try the new version
could you try the new version (less memory intensive) :
http://www.corebvba.be/blog/CategoryView,category,iPhone.aspx
newer version with qwerty etc...
So far so good.... I have been fixing most of the issues you all suggested, and released a new version on my site :
http://www.corebvba.be/blog/CategoryView,category,iPhone.aspx
This version has better performance, QWERTY, as well as AZERTY & numeric keypads & provides tactile feedback (sound)
Still on my todo list:
- backspace
- Custom words & contacts in dictionary
- skinning
- performance
Please test it and let me know what you think about it.
Let me say your app has a huge potential. You just have to work a little more on the dictionary and the speed of the app, and of, course, on the GUI and this could be a hit.
Promising
Just tried on wizard, speed OK, easy to use very impressed.
Excuse my ignorance, will this be usable with writing text messages, i.e. some sort of program integration or an ability to copy and paste text?
Best 1 thumb text entry method I have tried even with BIG thumbs.
Backspace in the pipeline I see, will keep coming back to check on updates.
TomJanssens said:
So far so good.... I have been fixing most of the issues you all suggested, and released a new version on my site :
http://www.corebvba.be/blog/CategoryView,category,iPhone.aspx
This version has better performance, QWERTY, as well as AZERTY & numeric keypads & provides tactile feedback (sound)
Still on my todo list:
- backspace
- Custom words & contacts in dictionary
- skinning
- performance
Please test it and let me know what you think about it.
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Hi,
Tested the latest version, it's still too slow on my touch. Sound feedback is awful, visual feedback maybe the way to go. I've lot of idea for technical improvement, do you want to make it a collaboration project?
regards,
Quentin
Hi just tried your keyboard there, wasn't too sure what to expect, when I noticed tene taking an interest my hopes were raised. I would like to see a keyboard where you can drag your thumb over the letters like tene's contact manager, and the letter pops up in a bubble and is entered when you release your thumb. But it seems to work ok on my artemis, bit slow to load but ok to use. Looking forward to your future work thanks.
And again, anew version 2007-07-20
After a little chat with Tene from xda-developers.net, I suddenly realised that the performance problems could be easily solved my making the keyboard a little bit less tolerant to errors.
So I adjusted a single variable, compiled the version, and ... Now it even runs smooth on my emulator...
You can download the version at the same link :
http://www.corebvba.be/blog/CategoryView,category,iPhone.aspx
Please let me know what you think about the performance
hello,
with the last version, it is still crashing.
(my device is a qtek 9100 = wizard)
the message says :
System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentOutOfRangeException()
to
System.collections.Generic.List '1.get_Item()
to
coreInput.DAWGNode.LoadFromStream()
to
coreInput.DAWG..ctor()
to
IphoneMockup.MainForm..ctor()
to
IphoneMockup.MainForm.Main()
I don't know what is Iphonemockup, I don't have any program with this name installed
I have a today skin of Iphone, and a wisbar skin of Iphone
note that it crash exactly in the same way, with wisbar, and without wisbar advance desktop
hope it helps...
Olivier
orobin said:
hello,
with the last version, it is still crashing.
(my device is a qtek 9100 = wizard)
the message says :
System.ThrowHelper.ThrowArgumentOutOfRangeException()
to
System.collections.Generic.List '1.get_Item()
to
coreInput.DAWGNode.LoadFromStream()
to
coreInput.DAWG..ctor()
to
IphoneMockup.MainForm..ctor()
to
IphoneMockup.MainForm.Main()
I don't know what is Iphonemockup, I don't have any program with this name installed
I have a today skin of Iphone, and a wisbar skin of Iphone
note that it crash exactly in the same way, with wisbar, and without wisbar advance desktop
hope it helps...
Olivier
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This message points to an error when loading the dictionary from the exe itself. As it works on the other pcketpc's, i was wondering if you have got the latest version of .net compact framework correctly installed. Maybe an uninstall and then reinstall of the compact framework might help ?
Can find this at greek language ????plesae help me
hello,
ok, I will try to uninstall the framework, and install it again.
I will keep you updated.
just to give you the information : I actually have the framework 2, and I have some program using it properly.
but anyway, I will try what you ask.
Best regards,
Olivier
Related
Blimkeys is a standard Software Input Panel for PocketPC 2002 and WM2003 based PDA-s.
You can input text to your PDA like write SMS on a regular cellphone.
This method is quite fast, and you can use it one hand.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Blimkeys is under development. Let's try it! Every useful tipps, suggestions, bugreports are wellcome.
The homepage of the project is here:
http://sala.sallala.hu/pda/blimkeys/blimkeys_en.html (English)
http://sala.sallala.hu/pda/blimkeys/blimkeys_hu.html (Hungarian)
You can download Blimkeys from the links above.
Nobody try it?
Sallala
installation problems.,.,.
i tried it but this is what i get :
Can't load
"\windows\dvoraksip.dll",
GetLastError returned :
193: %1 is not a valid
Win32 application.
plz help.,.,..,
Great
Hi, this is great idea as I'm looking for this type application for past 1 year. But, the file unable to load.
Hmm, maybe I uploaded the wrong file? I made it late time. Maybe I uploaded the emulator's version. It's not for ARM CPU but for x86.
One moment, and I grab the dll from my XDA and change the uploaded file.
dvoraksip.dll updated!
Ok, I am sorry, I uploaded the x86 file.
Now, I updated the dll.
Try to download again above!
Now that is a working copy, from my XDA.
Oh, and I tryed with my friend's Himalaya earlyer, and it worked with.
New version with space and backspace, and maybe with capital letters coming soon next week.
a couple of quick comments...
1. I find the time for double and tripple clicks is too short.
2. Would be great if it had predictive text capabilities
ok it worked this time, seems to be a nice app.
i suggest that T9 type input as an option would be a good idea, with cutom dictionary which can remember new words.
anyways bro, VERY NICE WORK!!!!
keep it up.
Good suggestions.
- Yes, timedelay will be configuralble. As I remember, now it is 400ms.
- Of course, I planed to integrate predictive input. (With an independent dictionary from MS) This time I don't know, how to make that, but it will be user editeable, or convertable-importable from/to txt or other simply file format. I like to support different languages.
My plan is:
TODO:Most important
- space, backspace, enter
I think backspace will be a horizontal line with the stylus right to left, and space will be a rhumb left to right, like in Letter Recognizer. Or let the rhumbs will be the cursor move keys? And how to implement the enter key?
- Capital letters, numbers, signs
TODO:That I like to develop before other things
- internationale support, first for hungarian keys like: óüöúőűáéí
- copy, cut, paste shortcuts? Like my earlyer project (see my homepage for (only) screenshot)
- options page for customization, (like time delay)
TODO:Other things
- Predictive input
- ...
Thank you for the interest!
Oh this is cool. I am also interested in this. I've been looking for a one hand SMS, getting tired sms'ing with the stylus. Thanks for the great effort.
Ive also been looking for the same kind of program. It´s great that you make this effort. Looking forward for future programs. Once it´s done, i will defenetly make a donation to support further versions!!
It is very good!!!
Hi Sallala.
I think that it could be very usefull. It is what I need.
I've tried to use it in the default SMS client and I dont' know why in the field to find the contact you can not write other letters than the first (for example you can not write the letter b, but only a).
In any case I think that you made an eccelent work.
I hope you will go further with this wonderfull piece of software.
Bye,
Uros
Re: It is very good!!!
Urosh said:
I've tried to use it in the default SMS client and I dont' know why in the field to find the contact you can not write other letters than the first (for example you can not write the letter b, but only a).
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Did you mean:
Start to write a new (SMS type) message, in the Inbox application, and you can't type corectly tha "To:" field?
I tried this. This is worked me fine, as in other windows. The delay time, while you switch a->b->c is quite short. Maybe this was the reason to you.
I also tryed the find contact window, and it works.
Did you know? When you press the Contact HW button, and start typeing, you immediatly type to the "find contact" box. To click in it, before typeing is not neccesarry ;-)
Question
Question
- How to implement the enter key?
A stroke up->down?
- How to implement the space and the backspace key?
A stroke left->right and right->left?
- How to implemet the cursor move-keys?
Strokes are make conflict with I write above
Let's response fast, I like to program it tonight!
Do remember, I waiting for methods that we can do with one finger without the stylus.
And I think there is no more space for another column of buttons. I think the size of the buttons now exactly good for komfortable typeing.. Or let's try more buttons?
Sallala, can you position the buttons just like that of a regular cell phone? and place the letters according to those of a regular cell phone? this way, it will be easier to switch from cellphone to xda and vice versa. you may follow the interface of WM2003's phone interface. i find it already comfortable dialling with one hand. what do you think?
Hi Boybi!
Urosh suggest this layout, and I think it's good.
The buttons are enough big to typing one finger, and it's size the same as the other input methods.
The normal GSM phone keboard have four row. That's mean, if I change the layout to your suggestion the panel height will be twice.
Let's take a look for example pocket excel! If the keyboard height is twice, and it is open, you can view only 4-5 rows from the excel sheet, because there is a formatting tab and a satuts bar too in excel.
But of course, typing maybe easyer on a bigger keyboard. And I know, peepole like the conventional methods.
So this is not a wrong idea, but I like to finish this layout first, and after, let's go back here! I think it is not a big work, to transform the layout.
Thank you!
i forgot the software you're developing is an Input Method and not a regular sms software. if this were a regular sms software, then i would strongly suggest to stick with a regular phone's layout.
great work Sallala! hope you could finish it soon!
Re: It is very good!!!
Sallala said:
Urosh said:
I've tried to use it in the default SMS client and I dont' know why in the field to find the contact you can not write other letters than the first (for example you can not write the letter b, but only a).
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Did you mean:
Start to write a new (SMS type) message, in the Inbox application, and you can't type corectly tha "To:" field?
I tried this. This is worked me fine, as in other windows. The delay time, while you switch a->b->c is quite short. Maybe this was the reason to you.
I also tryed the find contact window, and it works.
Did you know? When you press the Contact HW button, and start typeing, you immediatly type to the "find contact" box. To click in it, before typeing is not neccesarry ;-)
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I've tried it again and it works OK.
I don't know why it didn't work before.
Well done!!!
Uros
Re: Question
Sallala said:
Question
- How to implement the enter key?
A stroke up->down?
- How to implement the space and the backspace key?
A stroke left->right and right->left?
- How to implemet the cursor move-keys?
Strokes are make conflict with I write above
Let's response fast, I like to program it tonight!
Do remember, I waiting for methods that we can do with one finger without the stylus.
And I think there is no more space for another column of buttons. I think the size of the buttons now exactly good for komfortable typeing.. Or let's try more buttons?
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For the cursors is it possible to use the 5 way HW pad? It could be the best solution.
For backspace it could be that you have to press any button for 1 second.
I think also that you can make two more buttons on the right (where now you have three buttons that doesn't work). In this manner you can make the last position (for example the first button abc1) for the numbers. The last two buttons should have also spacebar and other 5 or 6 characters (for example [email protected]? ecc. or what we need most).
What do you think?
Urosh
I forgot another thing.
It could be better if you implement a sound ("bip") or something like this when you tap. It is better to hear the tapping to know how many times you tap.
bye,
Uros
Guys, this is an update to my old program VJSmallIcons. To say it's long overdue is an understatement
This version retains and persists settings between folders. It can also make the Programs launcher fullscreen. When you go fullscreen, there is a menu option to permit navigation back up to the previous folder.
On a whim, for no good reason at all, I've also implemented my interpretation of the Vista View Mode slider, as seen here in Vista.
The slider can be used to toggle modes. Even if you don't need the app, try the slider! I quite like it :wink: Hopefully you'll see this again in VJSihaya.
Normal Mode
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Fullscreen Mode
Available on my website!
V
nice unlike the first one, this one works on my device %)
the slider's a bit silly, I suppose, but kinda cute
( are you supposed to be able to drag it? only seems to respond to taps )
However... I just got stuck in a subdir :x VJSmallIconsII disappeared, and tapping 'OK' (which normally goes a dir up) did nothing. Not sure what I did to get in that state. Edit: Found it, check follow-up posts
and a suggestion... the 'go up one level' bit, perhaps it should carry the name of the level above, instead of the current level?
bug report.. if you run it twice, you will seemingly just be using VJSmallIconsII as normal. But changing any of the modes does nothing. If you exit it, it becomes apparent that you were already running it a copy of it - as that instance with its view (which changes correctly) is still there.
btw - nice UI (not sarcasm.. it really is nice!)
whewps.. now it locked up my device >_< I'll try and repro
yay repro
I have PHM PPC Powertoys installed, so I have a dir structure...
"\Program Files\PHM Tools\PHM PPC Powertoys\"
from a fresh boot:
1. Start > Programs (required first-run)
2. Start > VJSmallIconsII (in program history, still)
3. Start > Programs > PHM Tools > PHM PPC Powertoys
4. Tap VJSmallIconsII floater
result: floater disappears
expected result: pop up menu should appear
at this pont everything still seems fine - you can navigate around, etc.
5. Tap OK button
result: nothing happens, you're stuck at this level
expected result: should go up a level
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With MagicButton running - Steps 1-4
5. Tap (MagicButton) OK button
result: device locks up
expected result: should go up a level
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I don't know if it's the length of the folder name, or the fact that there's two spaces, or... etc. Can't keep poking at it right now
ZeBoxx: Many thanks.
I'll look into the hang. That's not when you're running it twice is it?
It's hanging because it's subclassing the Programs screen, and if for some reason VJSmallIconsII crashes, it'll take the Programs screen down with it.
It does contain code to detect multiple instances, but it occurs to me that because of the way the window is created it's probably not being detected. I didn't contemplate it being run twice I'll fix that!
Yes, slider responds to taps not sliding :wink: Not sure if I'll fix that! At least for now, it's just GUI...
The folder name - good idea, although it's basically for showing what the current folder name is, if you've got it in fullscreen mode and can't see for yourself. I don't mind incorporating either way, whichever you guys think is most logical.
Bug is confirmed with PHM (I have a similar folder structure). I'll look into it when I get home.
V
vijay555 said:
ZeBoxx: Many thanks.
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you're welcome
vijay555 said:
I'll look into the hang. That's not when you're running it twice is it?
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Probably doesn't matter - the hang is just when using MagicButton, so I suspect it's because it's using a different method to 'close' the window?
vijay555 said:
if VJSmallIconsII crashes, it'll take the Programs screen down with it.
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oops
vijay555 said:
I didn't contemplate it being run twice I'll fix that!
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yay
vijay555 said:
Yes, slider responds to taps not sliding :wink:
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*nod*
vijay555 said:
The folder name - good idea ...
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Yeah, I figured that it was for full-screen mode mostly
vijay555 said:
whichever you guys think is most logical.
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you've got my thought
I'm getting a 404 error on the cab file from your site.
I've disabled it for now, because of the bug, until I can get home.
If you still want to give it a go:-
http://www.vijay555.com/vj/Releases/VJSmallIconsII/!VJSmallIconsII.cab
Just be weary of folders with spaces in for now. Can't see why it's a problem until I see the code again
V
vijay555 said:
Just be weary of folders with spaces in for now. Can't see why it's a problem until I see the code again
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Well, that's why I mentioned two spaces.. e.g. "PHM Tools" - if I'm in there, and I tap VJSmallIconsII - no problem. But once I'm in "PHM PPC Powertoys" - boink.
I'll give it a more thorough testing and report back
~Z
Pooh, I think I remember now. I think I used a 16 char buffer for the folder name. Should be easy to fix. V gets his beautiful ass bitten by a buffer overflow... now to the XBOX 360
V
drat.. I had a reply window still open with:
It's the length of the folder name...
"123456789012345" is fine
"1234567890123456" is not
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when I resetted to make sure spaces were fine - and got distracted by StarGate SG-1 >_<
Edit: oh err.. and spaces are fine %)
Thanks Z. Ah, Stargate, welcome me once again to your comforting bossom.
V
"beautiful ass".. "comforting bossom" - I think your thoughts are NSFW, vijay
Hey, it's my ass and bossom Very safe for work: Not much else to distract me at work unfortunately (other then XDA forums!)
I'll get home in an hour or two to fix this bug... Thanks again.
V
What os is this supposed to work with? I put it on my 2002 devices and no go. I don't like to try unfinished stuff on the newer phones that I actually use (as phone).
This is a bit off topic....
vijay555, your programs alway seem so slick. You obviously put a great deal of work into them. My question is, why spend so much time on programs that help the user interact with the device when the there is a lack of programs that provide real usefull functionality. I am not critisizing any of you projects, more just pointing at what I see as a lack of things to actually do with a ppc once you have it working.
Hey unable to download this app from your site!
OdeeanRDeathshead: not sure about 2002. It's been tested on Emulator, WM2003SE and WM5. I don't have any 2002 devices to test it on.
Either way, I'd suggest waiting about 45 mins so I can get the buffer overflow bug fixed.
Re the offtopic: I've got a lot of new stuff to write, but for me, I do a lot of playing around mainly as an offshoot of reading. For this app: I wanted to make an app to hide reminders. Thus I wanted an app to remodel the reminders. Thus I wanted to change the button style of the dismiss all button. As a result I thought I'd try the same on the Programs window. It was semi-useful (I never use Programs), so I released VJSmallIcons. I know one guy who used it - it's a small market
Next I'm working on VJToggleToday II. For that, I needed to make a subclassing routine. It was easier to debug that in VJSmallIcons II. So I wrote the subclasser as reusable code.
At the same time, I got interested in owner drawn menus for a TV Listings app I wrote on the PC in VB, which I want to move over to the PPC eventually:
So I experimented with owner drawn menus, and then for no good reason the slider.
So circling back, the subclasser will be re-used in VJToggleToday II, which is a useful app, and the slider will reappear in some form in VJSihaya.
I don't really have time to write "big" apps like a word processor etc. I write what interests or distracts me, or is otherwise being used for research. It's a hobby My stuff is mostly for my own use, or research, but some of it occassionaly might be useful to the wider world, which is why I release it publically. But there are a myriad of bugs and issues in the Phone OS which I like to address for my own use, eg why does it take so many clicks to start a new calendar entry? Why can't we add numbers to existing contacts? If it bothers me enough, I look into my own solutions, more as an academic exercise.
Phew, time for lunch
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Guys, I've put the new version, v2.01 back on my site. Fixes the crash on long folder names and prevents loading multiple instances.
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PS I don't use magic button. Not sure why that would be any special case. Please report bugs as usual, with BIG BOLD LETTERS. Not really :wink:
vijay555 said:
Fixes the crash on long folder names
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yay!
I hope you didn't just increase the buffer to 32... /me makes a folder name of 32+
vijay555 said:
prevents loading multiple instances.
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also yay
Works fine now
vijay555 said:
PS I don't use magic button.
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I highly suspect that, as the issue with regards to the long folder names bit taking down Programs is gone, is no longer an issue
Guys,
I've posted a minor update to version v2.02 to fix a small bug where the vertical offset wasn't being taken into account correctly in fullscreen mode.
My audience of 1, ZeBoxx, might have noticed
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[System] FlashKeys v1.2 - Fullscreen keyboard (freeware)
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This is a small program made in Flash to emulate a fullscreen virtual keyboard.
This keyboard is fullscreen and always seen in horizontal way (landscape).
It requires Flash 7 installed in your Pocket PC. If you don't have it yet, get it for free here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer_Pocketpc/downloads/player.html
You can customize the:
- Text color
- Keypad Skins
- Background image
- Pre-made personal sentences
- English version
You have three screens with keys:
- Normal
- Capital letters
- Special characters
In all of them you can delete the last character, erase all the text or COPY, this last key has two effects:
- Places all the copied text in memory
- Closes the application
Afterwards, you can choose where to paste the text, either on a SMS, a note, email, or any other application where you can use the PASTE command (or CTRL+V).
News:
- keypad sound
- customized key alignment
- screen rotation
- New default skin (just because)
- Minimize+copy
To configure the keys sound just alter the IDsom line in mydata.txt
You may also change that on screen.
Almost all keys are configurable now, with the exception of the characters % & ) = + that cannot be dynamic because they interfere with the code.
Do note that some keys. to help the witting process, jumped to the first screen so that the user could continue witting, keys such as é ã ó, etc.
There is now the option to choose your screen rotation as default, just change the variable on mydata.txt
Or, during use, you can always press left/right (or up/down, depending on the model) to rotate the screen at will.
You can change the skin anytime by pressing up/down on your keypad (or left//right, depending on the model).
To customize your favorite skin, text color, personal sentences or use the English version, read the mydata-english.txt carefully.
Then place it in \Storage Card\Temp\FlashKeys (these folders are created the first time you run the software).
If, for some reason its not there, then search your Pocket pc with a explorer software to seek out where your temp folder is.
You can make a skin yourself, just use the example in the EXTRAS folder. It needs to be a 230x320 JPG file placed in the \Storage Card\Temp\FlashKeys folder with the name back.jpg
In case your screen is rotated you need a second file named back2.jpg
If, by any reason you need to exit the fullscreen, you can close the application with the COPY key, pressing the new minimiza buttton above the volume or press ENTER on you keypad (the button in the middle of the directionals keys).
Place the EXE file where ever you want, make a shortcut or call it with a defined key on your Pocket PC, its your choice.
This software is compatible with WM2003 and WM6. I didn't tested it on WM5, but it should work fine.
The WM2002 version was not created, but can be made easily by request.
Use and distribute this as you want, it was made for all of us.
Any bug report use these forums:
http://www.mobile-freaks.net and http://www.Pocketpt.net
Enjoy.
New version 1.2:
- New default keyboard
- New sound
- Portuguese and English versions separated EXE's
- Bug fixes
New version 1.2b:
- Key 1 Bug fix
Download: http://rapidshare.com/files/114692940/FlashKey_v1.2b.zip.html
Hi, it looks great, is it compatible with 240x240 screens?
hey, yes, great work, looks realy nice. it is possible to turn it 180 degrees?
pretty snappy! is there a left/right cursor key?
cortezzi said:
pretty snappy! is there a left/right cursor key?
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Hmmm, no, but do you need them?
Oh, got, it, to delete or correct the text...hmmm
Weel, you can select the text with your stylus and i think you can cut and paste also, but that wouldnt work very good, at least with my flash-actionscript limitations, sorry...
grypho said:
Hi, it looks great, is it compatible with 240x240 screens?
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its made for 320x240 but it -should- resize itself for any screen, but thats something only the flash player itself can manage. Let me know how he reacts to your screen...
Sens said:
hey, yes, great work, looks realy nice. it is possible to turn it 180 degrees?
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The keys would be too small in 240x320 and it would loose its purpose...
but, yes, it is possible, just not in a direct way... Maybe in the next version, but again, they keys would be really small, when compared to the landscape version...
My Qtek S100 is on portrait mode, but I still use that on landscape, it doesnt affect anything in the system, just gives me more room to have the full keyboard keys in that qwerty kind of way.
cortezzi said:
pretty snappy! is there a left/right cursor key?
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Yeah, I was wondering that too. I was thinking of picking up a Trinity and need something like this, but I would like to be able to delete things.
twolf said:
The keys would be too small in 240x320 and it would loose its purpose...
but, yes, it is possible, just not in a direct way... Maybe in the next version, but again, they keys would be really small, when compared to the landscape version...
My Qtek S100 is on portrait mode, but I still use that on landscape, it doesnt affect anything in the system, just gives me more room to have the full keyboard keys in that qwerty kind of way.
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Sorry about the missunderstanding ... i mean landscape too but turned to the left not to the right like now.
LG
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thks for this freeware; work fine on my wizard with WM6
maevro said:
Yeah, I was wondering that too. I was thinking of picking up a Trinity and need something like this, but I would like to be able to delete things.
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well, right now you can, but only the last character written... you can also remove things manually by sellecting the text with your stylus and choosing CUT (not sure about this), but im afraid i dont know how to make actioscript in flash that lets you delete part of the texto in the middle, sorry...
Sens said:
Sorry about the missunderstanding ... i mean landscape too but turned to the left not to the right like now.
LG
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OH, yes, that's easy. On the next release then...
New version:
- keypad sound
- customized key alignment
- screen rotation
- New default skin (just because)
- Minimize+copy
Nice app i like it - not really needed on my wizard but usefull on my artemis.
I was looking for the revision details of v 1.1 in the first post - can the changes be added there too
meschle said:
I was looking for the revision details of v 1.1 in the first post - can the changes be added there too
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Didnt get it, the new things are listed in the post before yours....
twolf said:
Didnt get it, the new things are listed in the post before yours....
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Sorry - place that text in the first post please - i.e. edit the first post.
If you check most of the software releases they do it in this format - cheers.
meschle said:
Sorry - place that text in the first post please - i.e. edit the first post.
If you check most of the software releases they do it in this format - cheers.
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but I did that...
only made a new post with a resume of the new things.
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but I did that...
only made a new post with a resume of the new things.
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Got ya twolf - my reading is a little slow
Two questions here for improvement:
1. & is missing from &Key1 at data.txt, initialized by the program - leading key 1 undefined, but this can be corrected by mydata.txt.
2. &FAVSkin cannot be initialized by mydata.txt - always start with default skin, but it can be changed by D-Pad.
Thanks.
1 - yes, that is normal, the first variable cannnot have the & in order to work in flash.
2 - Hmmmm.... I believe it works, he just assumes the jpg file as a sefault, if it doesnt exists, he then selectes the number you picked in that variable as the skin you want. But yes, it can be changed via D-pad always during the use of the application.
Are you sure it doesnt work? You did configured it in mydata.txt, right?
Pocket PC 2002
Hi, I would like to use this keyboard on Acer n10 running Pocket PC 2002 in Czech localization. Do you think it would be possible to make a version for this OS? Thanks in advance.
Dayalpuri
dayalpuri said:
Hi, I would like to use this keyboard on Acer n10 running Pocket PC 2002 in Czech localization. Do you think it would be possible to make a version for this OS? Thanks in advance.
Dayalpuri
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Here you go:
http://rapidshare.de/files/38284487/FlashKeys_2002.rar.html
This is just the EXE you still need to get the other zip to see how you can configurate the special characters of your language.
this is neat!
This keyboard is probably the best I've used to date! If anyone else posted about this already, I didn't see it sorry.
But this is well worth a look for anyone else who thinks the in-built keyboard is too small or the tengo keyboard is not comprehensive enough.
This Fingertouch keyboard from teksoft has 5 variations of input methods, one must meet your needs.
Personally I like the default QWERTY keyboard with bigger buttons than usual. It all works very well indeed.
Check them out for a 16 day trial or purchase it for a $10 or a fiva in UK.
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=fingertouch&tab=info
good call on this one. I used tengo briefly but this is much more responsive and easier to use.
its the first app that has made me consider leaving my keyboard off of my device and avoid those nasty scratches it creates.
ade0282 said:
good call on this one. I used tengo briefly but this is much more responsive and easier to use.
its the first app that has made me consider leaving my keyboard off of my device and avoid those nasty scratches it creates.
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Glad you like it. It's hard not to. Should be useful if it works well with TrueVGA for the upcoming cooked ROM. Anyone running True or RealVGA and wanna test this app for the Athena community/Project?
feedback....& trueVGA testing...
- This is an AWESOME keyboard. Works so nicely in native mode and I love the way you can change between all the profiles so easily!
- In trueVGA mode it's okay. You can still do all the same stuff, of course, but the keyboard itself looks a little stretched out. At least it tries to go across the entire screen unlike other keyboards. I'm sure with a custom skin, this will work out. I haven't tried to play with the settings under trueVGA mode to see if I can get it to display better but I will later.
Thanks and great find!
ltxda said:
- This is an AWESOME keyboard. Works so nicely in native mode and I love the way you can change between all the profiles so easily!
- In trueVGA mode it's okay. You can still do all the same stuff, of course, but the keyboard itself looks a little stretched out. At least it tries to go across the entire screen unlike other keyboards. I'm sure with a custom skin, this will work out. I haven't tried to play with the settings under trueVGA mode to see if I can get it to display better but I will later.
Thanks and great find!
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Yep.. a much better input compared to the standard one. I like its larger button that perfectly fit my big fingers.
macroing
cayotte said:
Yep.. a much better input compared to the standard one. I like its larger button that perfectly fit my big fingers.
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Yup, same for me:
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I would like to know if you guys tested the macroing this keyboard comes with. For eg. try typing !cap (starts a timer then captures screen - parameters adjustable in the registry HKLM\Software\Teksoft\FingerTouch) or open a new Notes document or Pocket Word and type !gre
There are other macros, see Settings->Input->Options->FastKB
Phonepad is still my favorite
I realise I type faster with Phonepad, even with one finger. Simpler layout plus easy switching to various modes
victoradjei said:
I realise I type faster with Phonepad, even with one finger. Simpler layout plus easy switching to various modes
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ok , what about the macroing?
May i ask if i'am the only who cannot activate
wm5torage because of it?
theobabis said:
May i ask if i'am the only who cannot activate
wm5torage because of it?
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Don't think that will be causing you the problem. I'm using v.1.75 no issues at all! Works every single time without fail.
theobabis said:
May i ask if i'am the only who cannot activate
wm5torage because of it?
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Uninstall it and find out. Won't take more than 10min to test if it's the cause or not.
1.75 also here. Found this program today and because
it is a must have and with so many progs i had installed
couldn't find which was causing the prob, so hard reseted
the x7500.. wisbar advance 3 ok..spb backup ok (made backup)
fingertouch 1f error after soft reset. After it was uninstalled,
wm5torage worked fine again. And something crucial
i forgot to mention, i'am still on wm5.
mackaby007 said:
Don't think that will be causing you the problem. I'm using v.1.75 no issues at all! Works every single time without fail.
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Thanks for this Fingertouch finding, it is a great software!!! Perfect for my needs
theobabis said:
something crucial
i forgot to mention, i'am still on wm5.
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Ah this could indeed be your main problem. I had times when using WM5, when the WM5torage was also temperamental in working sometimes than not at others. Since switching to the Dopod WM6 ROM, no issues at all.
mackaby007 said:
This keyboard is probably the best I've used to date! If anyone else posted about this already, I didn't see it sorry.
But this is well worth a look for anyone else who thinks the in-built keyboard is too small or the tengo keyboard is not comprehensive enough.
This Fingertouch keyboard from teksoft has 5 variations of input methods, one must meet your needs.
Personally I like the default QWERTY keyboard with bigger buttons than usual. It all works very well indeed.
Check them out for a 16 day trial or purchase it for a $10 or a fiva in UK.
http://www.teksoftco.com/index.php?section=fingertouch&tab=info
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I think this is exactly what I was looking for, I will refer this thread in another were I was discussing about keyboards. By-bye SPB, time to go for a true finger keyboard
I have included a snapshot of how it looks on my device, I find the 5th layout very useful, see below a picture from my device. I think I'll be able to write emails as fast as on the Desktop PC with it
Once again thank you makaby007 for this
thanx mackaby007, hope i won't have
to wait long for wm6
theobabis said:
thanx mackaby007, hope i won't have
to wait long for wm6
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You won't have to wait more than 30 minutes if you follow the unlocking instructions in the thread below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=315831
Be sure to search for and download the Dopod WM6 ROM first, but don't apply until you have unlocked your device, otherwise you'll brick your device.
theobabis said:
1.75 also here. Found this program today and because
it is a must have and with so many progs i had installed
couldn't find which was causing the prob, so hard reseted
the x7500.. wisbar advance 3 ok..spb backup ok (made backup)
fingertouch 1f error after soft reset. After it was uninstalled,
wm5torage worked fine again. And something crucial
i forgot to mention, i'am still on wm5.
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There is a solution for that "1f error". Use a task manager and kill the cprog.exe file. That would shut the phone antennae OFF for a while, allowing you to use WM5torage to be activated. Once activated, there should be no more problem.
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cktlcmd said:
There is a solution for that "1f error". Use a task manager and kill the cprog.exe file. That would shut the phone antennae OFF for a while, allowing you to use WM5torage to be activated. Once activated, there should be no more problem.
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Another reason for the "1f" seems to be active items on the storage card or MicroDrive. I use Wisbar (I think, or else iLaunch maybe) to start in "safe" mode, then it works like a champ.
Actually, now you need not struggle with WM5torage and its associated problem with pluggins and memory anymore. The good old Card Export that worked on WM2003 now has a version that works with WM5 and WM6. I've already made the switch and much prefer it over WM5torage for a few reasons:
1) There is no memory shortage issue. You can always connect and disconnect anytime, with no soft reset.
2) You are able to connect to both the microdrive and sd card at the same time.
3) You can instantly toggle between async and card export mode.
For further information, see the vendor's product webpage here:
http://www.softick.com/pocket-pc/cardexport2/
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As you remeber, i opend a thread (2 month ago) with the first version of this unique Application, after some improvment and modification, we are proud to announce, the next O3touch generation...
tha main isue is ... Multiple Language support!
with an easy ( as 1-2-3 ), simple steps you can add your own language.
this, in addition to a lot of other improvment and modification/Fixs will make this utility to a must have in every WM device around...
you all are welcome to download ( For Free ) this new ver and tell us your opinion ...
for these who alleready install previuse ver of O3touch, please, uninstall, make a Soft Reset and Reinstall the new one.
have a nice try, waiting for your inputs...
ariebk said:
As you remeber, i opend a thread (2 month ago) with the first version of this unique Application, after some improvment and modification, we are proud to announce, the next O3touch generation...
tha main isue is ... Multiple Language support!
with an easy ( as 1-2-3 ), simple steps you can add your own language.
this, in addition to a lot of other improvment and modification/Fixs will make this utility to a must have in every WM device around...
you all are welcome to download ( For Free ) this new ver and tell us your opinion ...
for these who alleready install previuse ver of O3touch, please, uninstall, make a Soft Reset and Reinstall the new one.
have a nice try, waiting for your inputs...
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I wrote earlier this:
"Hi Ariebk
Great app, very impressive and professional work, keep going
May I attract your attention to a couple mispellings in Settings
1st page: "defualt" instead of "default"
8th page: "srat up skim" instead of "start up skin"
These are very little issues and I'm sure there must be others in the wait list that are more important (time time time....)
All the best!"
I d/l yesterday ver 3.21 and this issue is still there + after pressing Messaging i get the messages list but when I close it the home skin doesn't refresh and I get this screen below.
Thanks for your work
Seems I'm the first one to reply, so here's my opinion. Please take this as constructive criticism. This program seems like a nice replacement for separate contact and dialer applications. However, at the momemt there are a few things that need to be fixed before I'd consider migrating:
1) Smart-dialing. Not debatable. This needs to be included by default. It is just, simply put, *the* most effective way to dial.
2) Appearance. I remember reading in the previous thread that someone thought the screen was too "complicated"/crammed. I think I'd have to agree. I think it's the monotonous cell-like layout that is off-putting.
- Consider brining in some variation.
- Make the dailpad's appearance different to the rest of the app.
- Consider a more "organic" appearance.
- Remove unnecesary items from the screen and list in soft-key menus.
Being a beta or pre release of this program we know about some bugs... hopefully there will be a way to to have a tweak for it to have this fix because it becomes irritating overtime and like ROMS we have to flash or to uninstall this immediately
although nice to have a keyboard which has less than 500kb
Quite cool, thanQ. Could do with t9 input though.
H3x said:
Seems I'm the first one to reply, so here's my opinion. Please take this as constructive criticism. This program seems like a nice replacement for separate contact and dialer applications. However, at the momemt there are a few things that need to be fixed before I'd consider migrating:
1) Smart-dialing. Not debatable. This needs to be included by default. It is just, simply put, *the* most effective way to dial.
2) Appearance. I remember reading in the previous thread that someone thought the screen was too "complicated"/crammed. I think I'd have to agree. I think it's the monotonous cell-like layout that is off-putting.
- Consider brining in some variation.
- Make the dailpad's appearance different to the rest of the app.
- Consider a more "organic" appearance.
- Remove unnecesary items from the screen and list in soft-key menus.
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Hi H3x
Thanks for your remarks.
The most effective way to dial, in many times is the way you use to. I think that any system that gets you to the contact you want in a 1-2 seconds, is a good one. The o3touch system will bring you to the contact as fast as any other good system. It is also a meter of some training and selecting the best approach, considers the total number of contact you have. Try the “1-2 letters + space + 1-2 letter, for over 1000 contacts, try the 2-3 letters for less, try the “contain ..”, try switching between them as you search, and find the best for you.
The main point is what should take place following finding the contact. The application offers a full ability to manage the data as well as sending SMS or email, and many other options, all within the same environment.
I have tested the application for 3 month with over 200 users. It may take some time to get familiar with the different approach. Many times the first reaction is about the look and not about the do. Most of the time users study very fast how to do what. My offer to you is to give it a real one hour try.
ariebk said:
tha main isue is ... Multiple Language support!
with an easy ( as 1-2-3 ), simple steps you can add your own language.
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Might be easy as 1-2-3... How exactly do i add my own language? Can't seem to find it in the settings pages. In the installed program map there are several xml-files, but i doubt if that's the place to add another language
jeen said:
Might be easy as 1-2-3... How exactly do i add my own language? Can't seem to find it in the settings pages. In the installed program map there are several xml-files, but i doubt if that's the place to add another language
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You are SO right!
you only need to change/edit the XML files...
jeen said:
Might be easy as 1-2-3... How exactly do i add my own language? Can't seem to find it in the settings pages. In the installed program map there are several xml-files, but i doubt if that's the place to add another language
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Hello Jeen
What is the language that you want to switch to?
For the moment the application “talks” in English Russian and Hebrew. (Setting screen 3, row 3)
It very easy to translate and to add a new language. Also you can use a special desktop tool for the process of translation and producing the needed XML files.
ArieHa said:
Hello Jeen
What is the language that you want to switch to?
For the moment the application “talks” in English Russian and Hebrew. (Setting screen 3, row 3)
It very easy to translate and to add a new language. Also you can use a special desktop tool for the process of translation and producing the needed XML files.
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Would like to switch to dutch...
I took a look at the different xml files, 2 things....
- not clear what files to change
- can't seem to find the original english language files... and i don't understand one word from the hebrew or russian files...
jeen said:
Would like to switch to dutch...
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Follow this link
http://www.o3touch.com/desktop-editor.html
If you need any help please ask
This application does look very promising indeed! For any haters: try programming yourself and stop shunning his application. He's doing this in free time, so show some respect. For those offering constructive criticism, good advice.
In the last thread it didn't support on-screen QWERTY. Does it now, and if not, will it do soon?
ShaunC193 said:
This application does look very promising indeed! For any haters: try programming yourself and stop shunning his application. He's doing this in free time, so show some respect. For those offering constructive criticism, good advice.
In the last thread it didn't support on-screen QWERTY. Does it now, and if not, will it do soon?
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Hello ShaunC193
The main purpose for the application is to support one hand fast operation for the common daily tasks. The QWERT keyboard needs too much room on the screen for one hand (and no stylus) operation. Sorry to say but for the moment, other things are in the ToDo list for the next version.
Thanks for the support. We buy top technology, full of graphic effects, and the day after go to look for solutions, in order to do the simple tasks in human way. It makes users displease, also to forget that it was not me to promises anything. The application concept is: No to scrolling and No to dragging, just Touch what you want and Touch More if you want more. It is not what we were told we should love and adore. Some time it is so easy that users can no find the obvious touch. It also offers a solution that works the same on any device, so it will follow me to the next one. Not everyone will install such a dull UI to notice its efficiency, and certainly not every one must like it.
tito12 said:
I wrote earlier this:
"Hi Ariebk
Great app, very impressive and professional work, keep going
May I attract your attention to a couple mispellings in Settings
1st page: "defualt" instead of "default"
8th page: "srat up skim" instead of "start up skin"
These are very little issues and I'm sure there must be others in the wait list that are more important (time time time....)
All the best!"
I d/l yesterday ver 3.21 and this issue is still there + after pressing Messaging i get the messages list but when I close it the home skin doesn't refresh and I get this screen below.
Thanks for your work
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Hi tito12
Thanks
Sorry for that, it will be fixed. If I remember correctly, you also advised to move the “Close” button in the contact info page to the center...
As for refreshing the screen, it is a known issue that accrues also in the situation of waking up the device while the app is on screen. For now, touch the “Fast dial” button a long press and it will refresh the screen.
Thanks a lot
ArieHa said:
Hi tito12
Thanks
Sorry for that, it will be fixed. If I remember correctly, you also advised to move the “Close” button in the contact info page to the center...
As for refreshing the screen, it is a known issue that accrues also in the situation of waking up the device while the app is on screen. For now, touch the “Fast dial” button a long press and it will refresh the screen.
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If you moved the close button only at my request then it's a big honor to have this on my device
Keep in touch (htc of course...)
tito12 said:
If you moved the close button only at my request then it's a big honor to have this on my device
Keep in touch (htc of course...)
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The honor is surlly yours.
Hello,
Let me tell a few words. I've made a russian translation of this excellent software. I'm trying to promote it in russian forums. I see two kinds of responces. Positive and not. I'll try to explain my thought.
IMHO, main raeson of o3touch dislike is not complete understanding of it's main ideas.
- o3tocuh is designed for one-hand operating, so there are no qwerty-keyboard, only phone-style dialpad. For devices with small screens it's may be a better solution.
- o3tocuh trying to spped up contact search. Try to turn on "Contains..." mode for search, and see it. I have about 100 contacts in my phonebook, but now I usually find needed one in a 3-4 clicks. One letter from name, space, oe letter for surname. Done. I didn't think that T9 search will be much faster, but also I think Arie will implement it in future, if it's so necessary.
- o3tocuh is designed to minimize memory and space usage, so there is no glittery-skins, 3D sound effects and so on. o3touch is like guud business class - not shining, not visually stunning, but you get's all you need. Two skins for day and night is enough for usual needs. Maybe in future, will be added color scheme editor. But as for me, it didn't makes much sence.
In conclusion, I can said - if you didn't try o3tocuh - please do it It takes not much resources, and runs good on any screen resolution (even wide-ones). If you tried and didn't like - give another chance, it's worth it.
ArieHa said:
Follow this link
http://www.o3touch.com/desktop-editor.html
If you need any help please ask
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Thanks for the link. I couldn't find it on the O3touch site.
Working on a dutch translation now...
jeennijhof said:
Thanks for the link. I couldn't find it on the O3touch site.
Working on a dutch translation now...
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Hi jeennijhof
Thanks for the effort.
I sent you a private message with an email address that you can use for fast support. Please check it.
One advice, start translation the buttons text, export and copy the directory to the device, check that everything is ok and go on.
French Translation ?
Hi Arie
Do you have a French translation or do you need one ?
I will readily try to make it. Tell me where to begin
Tito