HELP!
I'm new to the whole mobile email thing. I recently bought an 8525 and I'd really like to set it up for push email but I just don't have a good understanding of what to do and how to do it.
Can someone point me in the right direction? Is there a wiki for mobile email? I have about a half dozen POP3 accounts now that I'm accessing via Outlook 2003 on my PC.
Thanks in advance
Dave the Noob!
Hi Dave...i feel this is something which isnt particularly documented in the wiki so you wont get a standard "Read the wiki etc.." reply hehe
The BEST thing i ever did was to get a gmail account, and route ALL my emails through it, by applying tags to the emails you receive you can easily tell which account they are from. Pop3 accounts can be checked at regular intervals by gmail so no problem there, and if you filter them appropriatly you can get certain emails pushed to your phone via an exhcnage account. You can get a free push email account (exchange account) using mail2web.com's service.
The best thing about doing this is gmail's spam filter works VERY well, and you get 2GB of space.
I personally get selected emails routed to my push account (kindly provided by walshieau....not a public service) , and also the exchange account holds my contacts and appointments.
After a ROM flash all i gotta do is sync with the exchange account and my contacts/emails and appointments are restored.
Hi. Can anyone tell me please whether the Hero will have real-time 'push' email and whether it will be compatible with Outlook?
Many thanks.
it depends on which style you get I believe the sim free HTC branded ones will include exchange syncing software as standard. The "with google" branded ones dont, however there is software on the market which can do this for you anyway.
Well, I have a sim-free Hero on order, here in the UK.
I don't have a server, though - just Outlook on a single PC - would that be fine? Also - is it instant, or every 30 mins or so, like my current Nokia E71?
Thanks!
Just tested Hero ROM on my brothers G1. You can use Activesync ( sync with your local outlook via usb ) or POP email
Thank you, Sinas. And the Pop email is 'instant push'? My Nokia E71 will only check every 30 mins...
Thank you, Sinas. And the Pop email is 'instant push'? My Nokia E71 will only check every 30 mins...
Also, surely 'Activesync' is a windows programme - do you mean HTC Sync?
Thanks again...
Stuff review.
Okay, so the Stuff review seems to answer the questions.
Firstly; Some of these are basic (clocks, calendars), but many are ‘live’, pulling information through from the web to update automatically. The Nokia N97 offers similar widgets on its homescreen, but the Hero’s, most notably the excellent Twitter app, are by far the slickest and most useful we’ve used. so I am assuming that the Facebook widget is 'live'. Can anyone confirm?
More worryingly, we have this; Unlike the Magic, the Hero has native support for Microsoft Exchange, so setting up work e-mails is easy. It doesn't sync with Outlook, though there is a roundabout way of sending your contacts to Gmail, then get getting them to sync with the phone. which doesn't sound so promising. How can any new phone not sync with Outlook? Can this be true?
The full review is here; http://stuff.tv/Review/HTC-Hero-review/
Any thoughts (please?)
The facebook integration in the people application is nto real time, it is a set schedule updateof 2,4,8,12 or 24 hours.
The twitter app can be set to check every 5 minutes.
Yes, it does come with HTC Sync, but don't bother. It's just as bloody awful on the hero as it is on the HTC branded magics. Steer clear of that ****e and stick to the google or Exchange OTA Sync, both of which are push.
as for not synching with outlook (which it does but only just) the android OS is designed to sync with google over the air. that is one of it's main reasons for existing. and god knows at least it works as long as you are not on an apps domain....!
So, I guess you are saying that...
...if I want push email, because I have a pop3 account, rather than an Exchange one, I will need to somehow use gmail to push my mail to the phone?
*Sigh*
And EVERYTHING I have - contacts and calendar - is on Outlook, which you say doesn't properly sync with the Hero. Maybe I have ordered the wrong phone?
Thanks for your time...
yes you will. POP does not support push mail without some sort of third party intermediary such as Gmail, Exchange or BIS servers (blackberry).
Quite possibly you have.
Although, contacts can be copied across very simply into gmail, by exporting to a csv file and then importing that into gmail which takes about 2 minutes. and as for the calendar, google do calendar sync which syncs your outlook calendar to the gmail calendar as well.
however, from what you say, and what you want in a native outlook sync support, you'd be better off with a winmo device, and a third party hosted exchange for your pop, such as 4smartphone, or some of the guys that do it on here for a small price... that way you have the natice sync support, and also then you have your push mail.
Thank you for your help.
I guess a workaround might be for me to pay for a third-party application which will push my email to the device...
bigbamboo5 said:
I guess a workaround might be for me to pay for a third-party application which will push my email to the device...
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You might try looking into funambol. It connects most things, to most other things.
http://my.funambol.com/
is a free intermediary online funambol server application which might do exactly what you want.
I'm trying to find out from Orange whether the HTC Hero will synchronise with exchange.
Quite frustrating that there is no clear information available.
Rob
Thanks, Trentend - I'll take a look. Also Emoze has been suggested.
Anyone tried Emoze?
I have just spoken to someone at Devicewire who seems to know the phone well and has used it a lot - he tells me the phone 'definitely syncs perfectly with Outlook'. Which is nice...
For any kind of PUSH email support, you need a server-backend that can work it.
Meaning: An IMAP mail account (with IDLE support enabled) (like Gmail),
an Exchange account (used a lot in enterprises and such),
or something similar from Blackberry (BIS I believe).
A regular POP account is just that: Too simple to support any kind of push.
Create a gmail account, set your POP account to forward the mail directly to that gmail account, and set that gmail account up for push mail.
I believe gmail even supports multiple identities, so you can use gmail to send mail in such a way that it looks to come from your original POP account.
As for the Outlook sync: I'm curious just as you. Had WinMo and Symbian phones the last xx years, and I'm now waiting for my Hero to be shipped. My first Android experience, so I'll have to see.
Thing is, I don't value 'Outlook' at all. I use three different computers during each and even day, so all my mail is done webbased (and using a central storage). My 'primary' contact list _IS_ my phone. I don't sync it, I make backups.
So I think I will have to import my current contact list into my gmail-contacts, clean it all up and then connect my Android phone to it. But once you've done that, you're set .
dipje said:
For any kind of PUSH email support, you need a server-backend that can work it.
Meaning: An IMAP mail account (with IDLE support enabled) (like Gmail),
an Exchange account (used a lot in enterprises and such),
or something similar from Blackberry (BIS I believe).
A regular POP account is just that: Too simple to support any kind of push.
Create a gmail account, set your POP account to forward the mail directly to that gmail account, and set that gmail account up for push mail.
I believe gmail even supports multiple identities, so you can use gmail to send mail in such a way that it looks to come from your original POP account.
As for the Outlook sync: I'm curious just as you. Had WinMo and Symbian phones the last xx years, and I'm now waiting for my Hero to be shipped. My first Android experience, so I'll have to see.
Thing is, I don't value 'Outlook' at all. I use three different computers during each and even day, so all my mail is done webbased (and using a central storage). My 'primary' contact list _IS_ my phone. I don't sync it, I make backups.
So I think I will have to import my current contact list into my gmail-contacts, clean it all up and then connect my Android phone to it. But once you've done that, you're set .
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Thank you for this! I guess I'll have to try and do that gmail forwarding thing as the multiple identity thing is vital -if I reply from my phone, it needs to look as if it has come from my office. I'm sure there's an idiot's guide out there somewhere...
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Thank you for this! I guess I'll have to try and do that gmail forwarding thing as the multiple identity thing is vital -if I reply from my phone, it needs to look as if it has come from my office. I'm sure there's an idiot's guide out there somewhere...
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I just had a look. I can go to my gmail settings, and there is a tab 'accounts'.
In there the first section is to 'add another email address you own'. You will have to enter your current POP email address, and it will send a verification of some sort to verify the address is yours.
After that you can make that email address as 'default', and set the option to always make mail seem to come from that address, even if the mail you are replying to was sent directly to your gmail account.
I reccon that if you set an email address as 'default' there, you phone (and other) applications will also use it.
Then the only thing to do is set your current POP account to forward mail directly to your gmail account. (Not MOVE mail, but forward / copy it).
Then you have a gmail account 'invisible' to the outside world. Setting up an android phone with a gmail account should be no problem
Oooh!
Ta much!
Hero will sync with Exchange out of the Box
Magic and G1 need an extra App
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Hero will sync with Exchange out of the Box
Magic and G1 need an extra App
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Exchange, yes - but what about Outlook?
Hi
I'm struggling to figure out the email set up on the HD2 and hope someone might be able to shed some light.
I have set up 2 email accounts "1 at mydomain dotcom"and "2 at mydomain dotcom" and they seem to be working fine. I used Start > Email > Setup E-mail and filled out all the boxes with the same settings as I use in Outlook on my PC (incoming / outgoing mail server etc)
When I send and receive mail it gets stored in a separate folder for each account.
But ...
There is also the "default" Outlook account which seems to be the one that syncs with outlook on my desktop. I cannot seem to set anything up in this account for sending and receiving email. It only seems to have two screens - one for sync options and one for Advanced E-mail Options. The latter has a box for "my email address" but no settings anywhere.
Am I missing the point somewhere ?
What I would like to do is set it up so that my PC and my HD2 are pretty much the same. I'd like to sync the two and have the HD2 able to send and receive mail from the either account and, store these in the Outlook folders
Any help or advice would be great
Stephen
You need to change it using Windows Mobile Device Center as it's set there to sync emails. I made the same mistake recently...
Wow - fast reply ! Thanks
OK so you're saying I can set up all my HD2 mail accounts within MDC ? I didn't notice that so will take a look
Thanks
Still struggling
OK, thanks, I found Mobile Device Settings in MDC
Change content sync settings
Sync wirelessly with Exchange Server
Manage a Partnership
Connection settings
Get device certificates
End a partnership
But none of these seem to lead me to a place where I can set up Outlook mail on the phone (othere than sync settings)
I don't have Exchange Server - just Outlook on my PC
I'm trying to set up my mail accounts in Outlook on the HD2 so that whether I send and receive mail from my phone or my PC both accounts are available inside the Outlook account rather than in separate accounts
Hope that makes sense ?
Thanks
Stephen
When I first setup my phone using WMDC it asked what I want to sync with my phone (contacts, notes, email, calendar, etc.). If you select emails it'll sync your Outlook emails to your phone but not the settings. If you want to get rid of the Outlook on your phone you have to change what you sync with it.
Just in case there is some confusion caused by wording of the question:
If you use WMDC, you can ONLY sync with the Outlook email on the PC BUT you can only update email when you connect to WMDC.
If you want to receive and send emails when mobile, you set up email accounts within the HD2 email programme. Hit the email tab, menu, add account.
Then set up like you would an account in outlook
Seems it may not do what I want
Thanks for your help guys - appreciated.
It sounds like this HD2 won't do what I need then.
Sync between my "local pc outlook" and the "phone outlook" is no good on its own.
If I have email accounts set up on the phone which are not part of the sync I won't have a record of my mails on my pc
I tried sending and receiving within "phone outlook account" and that only works when connected to the pc which does seem strange
If there's anything else I can try or if anyone has a workaround to handle all my mail from both accounts and sync them between the pc and phone I'd love to hear
Thanks
Stephen
Searched the place but could not find it.
Is there a way to sync all external e-mail accounts setup on the hd2?
There are some send items i really need on my desktop.
You mean send/receive all accounts at once without having to do that one by one?
If so, look for "sendreceiveall" in the "Windows Mobile Development and Hacking" section of XDA, post by Crazy_About_Technology. I'm using it and works like a charm on my HD2.
If not, can you pls be more specific?
Thanks. I've got several e-mail accounts setup in Outlook on my HD2
The only thing avctive sync synchronise is the Outlook e-mail and not my other accounts.
When i'm pulling mail from my mail provider i get a copy of the mail and the original will be delevered @ work (outlook2007). But when i reply a e-mail using my HD2 the sent e-mail box ís only on my HD. I think iphone has a auto tions to send to a copy to your default e-mail. This options could do it for me regarding the backup/sync options for the send items.
You just need to use IMAP for all your accounts, then each device will sync with the server. This means that it will "look like" your HD2 is in sync with your computer.
But what about my home mail. This uses POP and keeps the mail local on the laptop. I don't want all my e-mail standing at the providers server. I think that the online mailbox doen't support so many mail standing there.
Can I sync all the emails I have 'attached' to outlook to my HD2 without having a whole bunch of different email inboxes for each email inbox on my phone? (I think I'm even a little confused with that sentence :s)
I use a personal gmail account and a seperate work account, both through outlook on the computer. Each having the same inbox is pretty nice. I was wondering if it was possible for the hd2 to 'send/receive' in the same email inbox for these two different emails? I'd like to use direct push and receive everything constantly, as promptness is my preference. Can I do it similarly to how I have it set up on the PC?
I gave this a quick look and didn't see a similar thread anywhere, and I hope this made sense. Please let me know what I can do to accomplish this.
Thanks in advance.
You could create a new gmail account, and then link your phone to that account. Forward all messages from both the work exchange account and current gmail account to that new account. Voila!
Otherwise, it's pretty impossible to get 2 push mail accounts into one account on the phone.