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AOL Music Subscription Works on Hermes!

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I've been wanting to get a subscription service that will stream to mobile devices (I mainly use Rhapsody on my pc, and it too will NOT work with mobile devices even though you have the option to use it through a browser-based interface) so I read your post and signed up for the 30 days trial, and sure enough it works over 3G as well.
The only problem I have is when I go to the main page through PIE on my Tytn, it automatically goes to a mobile version of the site, and I can only select certain artists that have been pre-selected based on my genre settings. There is a search line at the top where you can enter artist or album, but there is no Enter or Go button, and pressing Enter on the keyboard does nothing. In other words, I can't navigate to any specific artist, I can only listen to the pre-selected ones. Do you know how to get that search bar to work? If I go to the page on my desktop pc, the interface is totally different and getting to a specific artist is no problem.
I'm not sure what to tell you on the WMP thing... I have no issues with WMP thus far...

Neither of you have tried orb? I can't say enough about it...all of your mp3's on your PC at home are available to you on your phone 24/7. The only drawback is getting the mp3's and always leaving your PC on. It works the same way- you choose your song and it streams to WMP. This will also work for Videos and TV (with the proper setup, slinbox is far better though).
I haven't had any problems with this using wmp.

Patman,
Yes I do have Orb and use it quite a bit, and I do love it!! I stream my music and my recorded TV from my media center pc at home. BUT, the reason I wanted a subscription-based service on my phone is because you can stream any song, any artist any time. I own about 6,000 mp3's that are on my harddrive on my pc at home that I can stream on Orb, but with a subscription-based music service like AOL or Rhapsody, I have the choice of about 2.5 million songs, on-demand, at my fingertips.

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Patman,
Yes I do have Orb and use it quite a bit, and I do love it!! I stream my music and my recorded TV from my media center pc at home. BUT, the reason I wanted a subscription-based service on my phone is because you can stream any song, any artist any time. I own about 6,000 mp3's that are on my harddrive on my pc at home that I can stream on Orb, but with a subscription-based music service like AOL or Rhapsody, I have the choice of about 2.5 million songs, on-demand, at my fingertips.
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Yeah I figured there was a reason.
Does it cost anything per song, or is it a time-based ($xx.00/month) service?

I'm glad others are interested. Subscription music means you pay a flat fee per month (usually around $10) and you can listen to any artist, any album, any song in their entire library whenever and (hopefully soon) wherever you want. It's the holy grail IMO as far as portable music. Especially when you don't want an iPod/MP3 Player, but rather a convergence device like this. The problem is that the flash memory is very slow, and very space limited. Streaming music from a subscription service is the way to go. Orb is a great idea, but you still have to download the songs first. Me personally, I'm fed up with downloading organizing and managing music files. It's just become tedious. I'd rather have a jukebox available at all times with every artist in existence. In other words, I'm sick of collecting music. The new technology has made me look past that.
As I mentioned, AOL Music Now is the only web based service, thus the only one that can work on Windows Mobile (Rhapsody has a web browser plugin but it only works on certain desktop browsers).
Good news though. I just discovered (or is it brand new?) that Music Now supports RSS feeds. This could really be the answer to a having a solid experience using the streaming from a subscription music service on a PPC.
You can save an RSS feed of just about anything. All the artists in your library, your playlists, all the albums, all the songs, top 20 lists, etc.
I'm about to try and find an RSS reader for WM5 that might make this a reality. Even if one doesn't exist that works well, the RSS provides an open source for others to make a music browser type interface. Who knows what will happen. One could potentially make a program for WM that reads the RSS feeds and lets you browse, select, and play music much like the interface on an iPod or something. The difference being you have up to 2 million songs to choose from at any given time.

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Any updates on Pandora coming to WM?

I know this isn't Mogul specific, but I just happen to have a Mogul phone As some of you may or may not know, Pandora (www.pandora.com) is an online radio that streams your type of music. I've search quite bit and haven't had any luck with people getting Pandora to work on WMobile phones. Thought I'd ask here incase someone knew of a way to natively run Pandora on their phone.
I know of a way to stream Pandora but it would require quite some work, but if people are interested enough, I could post a work-around tutorial.

Apparently pandora is developing an official app for Windows mobile, but i'm still interested in your workaround. care to explain?

Pandora may be closing its doors
Sorry to burst you bubble about Pandora, but I just read about it yesterday. So unless they get this fixed dont expect anymore updates.
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/pandora_on_the_verge_of_closing_shop.php

Why not try this instead?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=415102
It's just like Pandora....

oh dang that sucks. i hope they pull through because i really like pandora... but lastfm thats very interesting i might just give that a try also.
my idea was to set up a server on a computer that would listen in on pandora and stream it through a webcast so that you could connect to it with a ppc. although all you can do is listen, but at least its streaming your favorite stations to your favorite app like tcpmp.

[REQ] Internet Radio Streamer

Hi anyone know of a good open source, free internet radio streamer? the microsoft one is so poor its unreal. I would like to have something a little better.
regards

Hi Aley,
I'm using MORT Player since Years. You only have to find out the steaming URL and edit the Mort Player Internet-Radio List. It's so easy and there are a lot more functions!
I never used WinAmp.
Chears,
Vitkor

Try KinomaFreeplay. Works very well.
http://kinoma.com/
-Lycox

I use the free GSPlayer, it handles all my MP3 and OGG streams.

Thanks guys for the great posts, is there a way to import these links/ favs to the players or must i manually go to the folder where i saved them to and copy them from the device to pc and visa versa

Here are some good websites for music:
1. http://www.thestreamcenter.com/pda/
This site is the best of the three and offers more streams than the other two combined so be sure to check this one out first. This site plays the streams in windows media player.
2. http://www.mobtuner.com/
3. http://www.htcradio.com/
These sites work well with GS Player and yes you can save the music streams locations right to your phone to load up quickly with GS Player.

the pandora client works nicely for me. I can post the cab here if you guys cant find it

I vote for GSPlayer. It faster, has less hangups and is easier to use to browse to my radio links folder.

all the above programs are good for streaming radio..... but i've just tried pocketlastfm which works like pandora but you can use it outside of the US. you put in a genre or artist and it continually plays tracks from similar artists/genres...... it's really good!

Herbalisation said:
the pandora client works nicely for me. I can post the cab here if you guys cant find it
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I´m trying to find the cab for Pandora.
I´ve found one but it seems that it´s not working fine on the Diamond. Some errors on the start screen visual basic lines... I hit ignore and it appears it connected just fine. I managed to get the keyboard out to log me into pandora, and I could see my radio stations, but when tryied to hear to one of them, it hang out on "connecting"...
Can you post your cab here? or can you pm me with the cab?
Thanks.

kick in the $30 and get Kinoma. Totally worth it!

Hi,
Wunder radio. Loads of stations from around the world. Small fee, around £10, perhaps just under.

Internet Streaming Radio App [for outside of the USA]

Hey guys,
as the title say, I am searching for an App for streaming internet radio. I found Slacker and Pandora by searching the forum, but both programs only work in the USA.
Since I'm in Germany, I'm searching for an App which can stream internet radio over here.
ACTUALLY:
It is just about this radio station I want to listen to on my TP2: http://radiometro.com.au/player/listenonline.html
I copied this link into the "Streaming Media App" on my TP2, but it only said 'invalid link'. So if anyone could tell me how I could get it done to stream this radio station on my device, I would really appreciate.
Thanks,
Don

Try this one;
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-tag-miasto_muzyki_ppc.html
I am using for a long time, and its awesome. many different style-oriented radios as well as regular ones. you can see track list on the screen.
I love it.
Enjoy

Don-Carlo said:
Hey guys,
ACTUALLY:
It is just about this radio station I want to listen to on my TP2: http://radiometro.com.au/player/listenonline.html
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open that page in your browser. In the View menu select Page Source
About a quarter of the way down you will find a line containing this
http://67.220.196.164:7777/listen.pls
Copy that and paste it into your browser (or alternatively copy the one above). When prompted save the file to your hard disk then copy it to your storage card.
Coreplayer will open it and play your radio station
HTH

Thanks a lot for the replies, but unfortunately none of them solved my problem.
@ royhapper: Installed it, started it, selected a channel, can't hear anything. Tried lots of channels, did 3 softresets,... reinstalled it,... no chance. Doesnt work
@ stunno: downloaded the listen.pls, but I dont feel like spending $30 on the CorePlayer. I know that I could use it for more than just streaming Radio, it definitely looks like a good player, but still.... $30 seems a little overpriced in my opinion.
Any other solution?

Don-Carlo said:
Thanks a lot for the replies, but unfortunately none of them solved my problem.
@ royhapper: Installed it, started it, selected a channel, can't hear anything. Tried lots of channels, did 3 softresets,... reinstalled it,... no chance. Doesnt work
@ stunno: downloaded the listen.pls, but I dont feel like spending $30 on the CorePlayer. I know that I could use it for more than just streaming Radio, it definitely looks like a good player, but still.... $30 seems a little overpriced in my opinion.
Any other solution?
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Give miasto muzyki one more try, I suggest. I am also having same problems since 2-3 days, its a system update or something I suppose. But now its working. I am listening at least.
This is a radio from Poland, you are closer than me, it must be easier for you )

@ royhapper: Still doesnt work.
I found an App called "Wunder Radio" which lets you listen to just about any radio station on this planet. There is a 15 day Trial Version,... and you can get a licence fpr $14.95
http://www.jeyo.com/radio.asp
Still dont want to pay though,... so if anyone figures a cost-free way, let us know

Try GSPlayer. It's a freeware media player that can play Shoutcast and other internet streams. I just tried it with the site you are trying to stream and it works just fine.
1. Download GSPlayer from http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA032810/
2. In GSPlayer select Menu > File > Open URL
3. Put in 67.220.196.164:7777 (don't add the /listen.pls part or it won't work)
4. It should start buffering and streaming...
It worked for me, and it shouldn't be limited to the US, since the GSplayer is from a Japanese site.

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pinoymutt said:
Try GSPlayer. It's a freeware media player that can play Shoutcast and other internet streams. I just tried it with the site you are trying to stream and it works just fine.
1. Download GSPlayer from http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA032810/
2. In GSPlayer select Menu > File > Open URL
3. Put in 67.220.196.164:7777 (don't add the /listen.pls part or it won't work)
4. It should start buffering and streaming...
It worked for me, and it shouldn't be limited to the US, since the GSplayer is from a Japanese site.
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SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET !!!
Thanks a lot pinoymutt,... finally I can listen to my favorite Radio Station while traveling by car (which I have to do quite a lot)!
Thanks again, really appreciate it!

Don-Carlo said:
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET !!!
Thanks a lot pinoymutt,... finally I can listen to my favorite Radio Station while traveling by car (which I have to do quite a lot)!
Thanks again, really appreciate it!
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No problem! Enjoy your streaming

Subsonic on EVO 4G

Just thought I'd make a quick post as I haven't seen much dicussion on Subsonic. I have Subsonic installed on my server with about 100+ Gigs of music.
I installed Subsonic for android on my 4G today and connected it to my server. Setup was easy. Works great. 100Gigs of music in my pocket anywhere I get a cell connection! Connect to the aux in the car for 34 days of commercial free music.
What's not to like!!

I'm surprised more people aren't talking about this. Subsonic is simply amazing.
Install software on your desktop PC to set up web access to your music. You get a very nice web interface. And an Android app.
www.subsonic.org

I'm also using Subsonic and really enjoy it. I had a little trouble initially with the server side setup, but once I figured it out and got a connection to my EVO, it's worked great for the most part. I do have an occasional pause in the playback, but I think that's more related to signal strength than anything else, because it always starts back up where it paused.

We also had Subsonic set up to stream movies a while back. A soon as I get some time I'm gonna try and see if I can use it to stream video to the EVO.

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Just thought I'd make a quick post as I haven't seen much dicussion on Subsonic. I have Subsonic installed on my server with about 100+ Gigs of music.
I installed Subsonic for android on my 4G today and connected it to my server. Setup was easy. Works great. 100Gigs of music in my pocket anywhere I get a cell connection! Connect to the aux in the car for 34 days of commercial free music.
What's not to like!!
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Hey, thanks for this. I never heard of this... works perfectly!!! Much appreciated!

First time hearing of this. I am downloading now.
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I downloaded it..but i don't get how to set it up? I have the desktop client downloaded..
sent from your stolen evo

Thank you this is what i have been looking for ever since I got my EVO.

I was a frustrated HP Media Smart Home Server user who finally gave up on the HP crapware, and went the DIY WHS route. That's what led me to Subsonic as a substitute for the HP software.
A way better choice. This program actually works without tying up the server doing indexes and hogging CPU cycles like the HP Twonky Media software did.
Access to your entire music library, and it doesn't even store anything on the SD card!
My next project will be to get it working with MP4's so I cantake movies with us on the road.

I'm setting up a server just to use this. How is the UI on the app? Is it usable as a primary music app?

It is really just designed for streaming from your server. There may be a way to use it as a music app but I haven't looked into that yet.

I just checked, you just select Offline for the server. Works fine.

GaryJ51 said:
It is really just designed for streaming from your server. There may be a way to use it as a music app but I haven't looked into that yet.
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Wait, so how does that work...I'm going to check their website to see if I can reformulate this post with an actual question lol.
EDIT: OK, I think I phrased the initial question wrong. Would the experience of picking a song be similar to using any other music app as if music was stored locally? I'm not going to have anything on the phone, everything will be streamed.
EDIT2: Ignore what I said up there, here are some screen shots and video of the UI: http://www.subsonic.org/pages/screenshots.jsp
Does the app work in landscape mode?

Ok guys, you can download the Subsonic app from the Market and connect to their "test" server to see how the app works.
It works in the landscape mode. Has no widget, unfortunately. But song/file browsing, and playback is VERY functional.
If you need help installing this on the desktop side, read this: http://www.subsonic.org/pages/installation.jsp
You should note that while the desktop app is 100% free, the use of mobile apps is limited to 30 days at which point you have to "donate". The donation can be any amount, and you will be provided with the unlock key which you use inside the web interface of your server.

Well I installed the desktop client but can't seem to open the webpage no matter what.

Comrade P said:
Well I installed the desktop client but can't seem to open the webpage no matter what.
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Are you trying to open it from the desktop or the phone?

Am I the only one using subsonic for video too? The music/app are great, but having streaming flash access to my video library anywhere is the best. Has to be done through the browser for now though.
Instructions here:
http://www.hackourlives.com/cross-platform-music-and-video-streaming-with-subsonic/
I'm trying to work out a way to encode/stream my live TV signal through my tuner card kinda like a slingbox. I'll post if I have some success, but I don't have much time to work on it these days.

Thanks for the link!
We had video streaming set up to our laptops, but hadn't tried setting it up on the cell phones yet.
I turn over all the details to my 15 yr old who is much faster than I am at doing all the setup. We'll get started once he gets a break at school.
We did have it set up to open whatever Media Player we wanted to use. If my son remembers what he did I'll try to get him to post the instructions.

Should be no need to play it in an external player on the evo - just switch to landscape and it will go to full screen. If you really want play it in an external player, FLV player (from the market) might work. Or if you want to download the video before playing (so you don't get any skipping while you're on 3G), you can download the file from either the app or the web interface, and play it with FLV Player.
Subsonic wants you to make a donation of 10 Euros to continue using the subdomain they have you sign up for during setup. But if you like rolling your own, sign up for a free subdomain an use a DNS updater (built in to some routers or available for any platform) to make sure the reference to your IP stays up-to-date.
For DNS updaters and more free subdomains than you can shake an iPhone at:
http://freedns.afraid.org/

this is great ! thanks for suggesting it. I was looking for something similar, tired of having to carry around the ipod just to hook up in the car. I'm going to test it out for a few days, but I think I'm going to donate for sure!

hungry ghandi said:
Subsonic wants you to make a donation of 10 Euros to continue using the subdomain they have you sign up for during setup.
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Wrong. The denominations under donation menu are merely suggestions. You are welcome to donate ANY amount you CAN ($2 worked for me) to get your license. Just manually send a payment through PayPal to his email (you can get the email from the forums somewhere, do a search for donation).