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Which IM software for the universal?

Hello!
I would greatly appreciate it if you could suggest any good multi - IM software for the universal (Yahoo, MSN, ICQ mainly)
agile messenger was good, but it has a lot of stability issues on the universal. So could you suggest something other than agile?
Thanks,
San

Hmm I'd be interested also in what people are using, at the moment I only have PocketMSN installed.

MSN via IRC
Hi all,
Well I own an MDA Pro (HTC Universal) so it doesn't come with MSN Messenger installed. I am waiting for the new Rom though which does include it. In the meantime I'm using an IRC client in combination with Bitlbee to get on the MSN network. It works like a charm. If you don't know what Bitlbee is you can go here (www.bitlbee.org) to read all about it and to try it out. Basically it's just a IRC Bot/Script that you can run on your computer and it forms a gateway to different IM networks like MSN, Yahoo, ICQ, AIM etc... You can also use the public servers if you don't want to install it on your own pc. Ow and it's free also.

Agile Messenger for Windows Mobile is still free as far as I know, and supports MSN, Yahoo!, AOL, Jabber and ICQ.
I'm using it almost daily. Works quite well, actually.
It has crashed on me at times, but only after extensive chatting.
Omnichaos: Does the MDA Pro not come with MSN? The i-mates do, and it's a free download from Microsoft's site too. The problem with using IRC scripts and bots is that not one bit of it is encrypted, so you're opening up your data to some script-kiddie with lots of time on his hands (granted, I haven't read about your solution, so I don't know the details)

Even I use Agile messenger..it works fine also in Full VGA Mode :lol:

What about any alternatives for just an MSN? I'm not using any other communicators so don't need the all-in-one ones.
I'm quite happy with Pocket MSN, it's just annoying me that the chat window is so small and hard to read and there is a huge unused space underneath.

rottie said:
What about any alternatives for just an MSN? I'm not using any other communicators so don't need the all-in-one ones.
I'm quite happy with Pocket MSN, it's just annoying me that the chat window is so small and hard to read and there is a huge unused space underneath.
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Click on your SIP to display it, and then hide it again to clear the huge unused space.

snorbaard said:
Agile Messenger for Windows Mobile is still free as far as I know, and supports MSN, Yahoo!, AOL, Jabber and ICQ.
It has crashed on me at times, but only after extensive chatting.
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Also my Agile crashes now and then my Jasjar. Indeed you need extensive chatting first. It has never crashed just in stand bye mode.
Agile however recovers very well after being out of reach of the network, which, in my case, cannot be said about MSN.
And the MSN new-user-on-line warning can officially not be switched off. Very irritating.
Anyone tried IM+?
Huib

hey, Thanks!!!

@ snorbaard
No the MDA Pro does not come with MSN Messenger at least not yet (It's included in the next Rom update). I don't know why they haven't included it in the first place cause I now that the Imate's, O2's & Qtek's do.
You are right about MSN being a free download but you have to active your MSN account first for you to be able to use Pocket MSN and that costs 15 euro's.
But as I said it doesn't matter for me that much cause I'm using IRC to get on the MSN network.
You're probably right about IRC not being encrypted but you can run it on your own computer which does increase security alot than if you were to use the public servers. Besides I don't really care that much. It's not like I'm giving away passwords or creditcard numbers on MSN anyway.

Agile Messenger - NEW WM 5.0 version
We will be releasing a new version of Agile Messenger for WM5.0 both PPC and Smartphone versions, that is a complete re-write from the ground up. The BETA will be available in the next week or so, and will be posted publicly on this forum for all of the members to download.
Your feedback is appreciated, and we are quite confident that you will be happy with the new Agile Messnger for WM5.0.
Thanks for your continued support.
BR
Seth
Agilemobile.com Ltd.

Sweet!!!
Can't wait to try it out.

New Agile? Great. Used it on my Nokia 9500. Very nice and stable.
eagerly waiting for a testdrive.
Huib

IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.

yo i tried agile on my mda pro, but it wouldnt work,
touchscreen doesnt work with it,and i could only select msn not logon to it
to bad, i just have to wait voor that t-mobile update i guess
P'z

Beta
The new version should support:
Push To Talk
Image Transfer
Emoticons
Group Management
Typing Notification
Support for AOL, MSN, ICQ, Yahoo, and Google Talk
Amongst a number of other new features, and an entirely new interface.
There have ben a number of internal builds over the past few months, and we expect to be releasing a Beta very shortly.
For those of you that are requesting early Beta's it is simply not possible as we intend to provide it to the entire community as soon as our internal devlopment team and quality controll is satisfied that it is ready for public release; which we expect to be in the next few weeks.
BR
Seth
Agilemobile.com Ltd.

universaldoc said:
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
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I also use IM+. I have since i first got my old Nokia 7650 many moons ago.
I use an XDA EXEC at the moment and the built in MSN Messenger is really bad it claims i am connected when i am not and my gprs monitor reported over 400k usage in around 3 hours without any use.
With IM+ i use around 23K when connecting then a very small amount each time i chat.
AFAIK IM+ also connects directly to the services. I know some other third party ones connect through their own servers.

Dingo said:
universaldoc said:
IM+ is really good. Its WM5 compliant and does Google messenger also.
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I also use IM+. I have since i first got my old Nokia 7650 many moons ago.
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Dingo, that is good news. There is competition. I would love you to compare both Agile and IM+ as soon as the new, rewritten, Agile appears.
I use Agile at the moment. Apart from sometimes hanging my Jasjar, it does the job well. Especially REconnecting after being in the subway is very imporant for me. MSN just does not and Agile reconnects quickly.
MB consumtion of MSN is unacceptable. Very strange that MS delievered a product like that.
Huib

Hi guys
I have been using agile oin my T;mobile exec. It is very stable and i also find it recovers well on disconnects between cell sites. I regularly use it on express train journeys in the uk. But for these i tend to turn of UMTS and force gsm only. this really helps on speeding up agile reconnecting when the unoiversal is moving fast. The other big thing on agile is it costs less than 305 of the bw that MS MSN client uses. So on samll bundles it will save far more in bw costs than any licence feee will cost. If you are having problems on the t-mobile exec, then you are probably doing something wrong, or you have some other trird party sw installed that is messing thinbgs up. Personally i am really pleased that tmob did not install msn otherwise i would not have discovered agile. Can t wait till the new version comes out.
Keepup the good work at the Agile dev team.
Regards
Charlie

MSN Mobile is ... really bad IMHO.
Im also using IM+ as its the most stable for me. It also support jabber but it really miss some basic features.
Are they any other good jabber clients?
Agile was also not really working out for me, lets see how it behave on an new version.
If anybody know any other clients plz post them. Im also really ready to pay for them - 100EURO for a really ok client is no problem. Sources would be even better so i could fix the rest myself.
If somebody could provide sources, i would even sign an NDA or something and pay more.
Would love if somebody contact me
Daniel

yahoo messenger?

I have tried the webmessenger tool hich seems to connect to msn fine but has probs connecting to yahoo. is there any free messnger tools i can use to IM on yahoo at the moment?

try imov from www.movsoftware.com
the only proviso is that you need a Jabber account somewhere.
this is a list of jabber servers:
http://www.xmpp.net/
I think mail2web runs one as well
rgds

cheers.. will look into it..
if only yahoo had their own app like they do for series 60

they used to.
you can still download it:
http://download.yahoo.com/dl/ce/ymsgr-ppc.exe
might still work
also forgot, agile messenger works quite well:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50022&highlight=agile
rgds

thanks will try those tonight..

Agile Messenger works very well, BUT after entering your account details, it tries to log in.. and tries, and tries, forever.
The solution is to press Next, then go to Options - Preferences, the last tab, and disable "Secure connection" or so.
After this, it worked flawlessly.

colonel said:
they used to.
you can still download it:
http://download.yahoo.com/dl/ce/ymsgr-ppc.exe
might still work
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Cool... has anyone tried this yet? Is it WM5 compat? I would just download and test, but have just got my Uni the way I like it, don't wanna hard reset again!!
Regards

its a very old version of YM written for PPC2002. For some reason Yahoo stopped the project to support PPC. A big mistake as ICQ, MS and AOL do support it.

i heard that tmobile dont allow IM apps on their handsets as their current data deals for net browsing and email are not meant to be used for MOIP bummer

kanjer said:
i heard that tmobile dont allow IM apps on their handsets a
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I heard they're looking to change that, based on the low bandwidth probably.

Tried Agile Messenger and it works great. Thanks.

Messenger application

I know there was an old thread on here but I could not find it, so, forgive me to ask again:
What is the best Messenger application for WM5 / WM6?
I love the look and work of AGILE MESSENGER but the price is way too high for a program like this! Also: users get routed through their own servers to 'validate' the lisence. This causes time delay and additional data trafic each time you connect and in a long run you pay more than you would have to if you pay per data volume.
It would be great to find a program what does at least the main 4: AOL, ICQ, MSN, YAHOO. What do you guys use?

You could try Octrotalk.

Useful info here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323654

you can try look for IM+.
this messenger can connect to msn, yahoo, google, jabber, etc...
if i'm not mistaken they also have a version which can connect to skype. but i'm not sure with this.

fring does all of them with the exceptio of Yahoo. Very light weight and supports voice on all. www.fring.com

im using im+ i can send it to you just PM for me

ClausSanta said:
im using im+ i can send it to you just PM for me
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I used IM+ on Symbian devices and it never worked right - does it work better on Windows Mobile?

Junner2003 said:
I used IM+ on Symbian devices and it never worked right - does it work better on Windows Mobile?
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it the best from thing i tried : qip, pocket icq 1.0; mchat, gsicq, anastasia, prelude.
not tested just severeal things that i know exist: anglie messenger, fring and jimm

IM applications?

I've been looking around using the search tool for good instant messaging apps. But all the threads I've found were old ones. I want something free and new that can make at least hotmail (windows live messenger) work on Wi Fi. Because the windows mobile messenger refuses to connect via wi fi.
I've heard Beejive IM is good but I want to know the alternatives.
Oh and I use a Touch Pro.

Have you tried Qip PDA? It's free and i like it

Did you tried BeejiveIM (Multimessenger)?
Currently beta so it's free. Works for me.
http://www.beejive.com/wm6/index.php
-Lycox

all the good IM clients with multiple protocols aren't free such as IM+ and mundu.if you want free and don't use memory,get unlimited text plan and set aim/yim to always show u on mobile while you arent logged on a client or pc

parlingo maybe

NotLutzik said:
parlingo maybe
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now call me stupid, but im most of the times when, im home running windows live messenger trough the wi-fi? and not trough data. what messenger ( number ) do you use? i've already runned messenger on a raphael of friend of mine. and it works perfectly trough the wi-fi im gonna look up the number for you.

Pigeon is the best =_)

Kainous said:
I've been looking around using the search tool for good instant messaging apps. But all the threads I've found were old ones. I want something free and new that can make at least hotmail (windows live messenger) work on Wi Fi. Because the windows mobile messenger refuses to connect via wi fi.
I've heard Beejive IM is good but I want to know the alternatives.
Oh and I use a Touch Pro.
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Try IM+. It works for me. An easy to use All in one IM application. Enjoy!
NO WAREZ!

i've also been using im+ for a couple of years now it a pretty good application could be a lot better but for the purpose of messings it works well
beejive is what i'll get if it ends up being better then im+

fring is nice

liehuo said:
Try IM+. It works for me. An easy to use All in one IM application. Enjoy!
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Please don't post warez here!!!

Lycox said:
Please don't post warez here!!!
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opps. Very sorry about that. I thought warez were allowed here. I didn't mean to violate the forum rules. Anyway thanks for removing the links.

Hey,
I use Beejive.
Its free for now, handles multiples protocols and looks nice.
It can show chats threaded with bubbles ( like iPhone SMS ).
works very welll
greets doena

Windows Live Messenger

Does anyone know of Windows Live Messenger being available to download / install from a third party?
3 Mobile have apparently bundled it with their Heros http://www.info-resource.org.uk/htc_hero_with_spotify_contract.html
Frank.

Ebuddy or fring, personally prefer ebuddy, fring has a crap ui
edit: though if anyone can upload the apk for the 3 client here, i would like to take a look if possible.

i think Nimbuzz is the best solution...best UI IMHO.

effsee said:
Does anyone know of Windows Live Messenger being available to download / install from a third party?
3 Mobile have apparently bundled it with their Heros http://www.info-resource.org.uk/htc_hero_with_spotify_contract.html
Frank.
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I wonder if it's the same IM app that T-Mobile has on some of their Android devices, which is actually a google-made program. It uses SMS instead of data, and AFAIK, no one's got it to work on a non-TMobile phone/network. (Although maybe 3 Mobile has!)
I personally like Hi MSN. It isn't the greatest program ever, but it gets the job done. I don't like using eBuddy/Palringo, because you have to create an ebuddy account, the attach your MSN account to it. Yeah yeah, it's useful if you use lots of IM clients, but I don't.

craig0r said:
I wonder if it's the same IM app that T-Mobile has on some of their Android devices, which is actually a google-made program. It uses SMS instead of data, and AFAIK, no one's got it to work on a non-TMobile phone/network. (Although maybe 3 Mobile has!)
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The TMo version can use data over WiFi, but reverts to SMS over cellular conntections for all protocols bar GTalk. It is a specifically code limitation in the application itself, because back in my G1 days there was a hacked version available that circumvented this and allowed IM over 3G/GPRS.
Personally, I use Meebo.
Regards,
Dave

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
i think Nimbuzz is the best solution...best UI IMHO.
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I agree, Nimbuzz is better than Ebuddy or Fring. And it also does Skype VOIP.

Nimbuzz is the best i've seen. it lets you talk to contacts from several IM protocols, current release includes:
Yahoo!
WML
Skype
Facebook
Google Talk
AIM
MySpace
StudiVZ
SchuelerVZ
Gadu Gadu
Hyves
Giovani
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It lists all contacts from all the protocols you selected at the same time, which is awesome.

Cheers for your input everyone. I've been using HiMSN, I'm going to give Nimbuzz a go from your recommendations.

nimbuzz seems to run in the background, but when i look for it in task manager, it doesnt show up

can someone please backup the 3 WLM client with AppManager and post it somewhere (rapidshare, mediafire etc)?

Ebuddy works great.