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REQUEST : getting started with wm5 development

can anyone point me in the direction of some help or a guide to getting started with wm5 dev ?
just looking for a "hello world" level walk through at the moment.
thanks in advance.

WM5 Dev
Get hold of Visual Studio .NET 2005 and examine the example programs Goodluck!

do i need to install the dotnet framework on wm5 or is it built-in ?
cheers

You need Active Sync 4 during development. You may wish to run the sample program in your WM5 device OR using a WM5 emulator. If you chose to run it on your device, cradle your device and VS.NET 2005 will install .NET compact framework on your device before it attempts to run your sample program using your device

thanks for taking the time to answer. i would have thought that the dotnet framework would have been built-in with wm5.
no-one likes to have to install extra programs to get an app to work.

I am not sure with the "newer" WM5 devices out there. I have an XDA II with the first leaked WM5 ROM and it does not have the latest .NET CF...
If you have a WM5 device, verify the .NET CF version you have by running: \Windows\cgautil.exe

i have 1.0.4292.00 installed on my wizard.
how does this compare to dotnet v1.1 or v2 ?
cheers.

I guess it is not the latest version. VS.NET 2005 needs CF v2 in order for programs to run properly.

Hi there.
I'm planning on embarking on PPC development journey as well.
Yet to get hold of VS.NET.
I was just wondering, if anyone would know how the app in the link works:
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=338
Does it link to the registry, etc?
It obviously does not work on WM5, and I would appreciate if anyone could gimme a headstart on working one for WM5.
Thanks!

steelorange said:
I guess it is not the latest version. VS.NET 2005 needs CF v2 in order for programs to run properly.
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You can develop .net CF 1.0 applications in VS.NET 2005. Then you don't need to install the .net CF 2.0 on the device. There are some handy things that's missing in 1.0, but almost everything can be done... just not as easy as in 2.0
Øystein

Programming on SPV M3000

I just downloaded eMbedded Visual C++ 4.0 to developp programs but I haven't the code to install it & never found it.
Does anybody know another developping tool ?

Pixel69 said:
I just downloaded eMbedded Visual C++ 4.0 to developp programs but I haven't the code to install it & never found it.
Does anybody know another developping tool ?
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This one is from the microsoft site:
Use the following CD key when installing this software: TRT7H-KD36T-FRH8D-6QH8P-VFJHQ
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...3d-50d1-41b2-a107-fa75ae960856&DisplayLang=en

Getting started

Hi all,
I just bought an O2 XDA(ii). Regarding software development, what compiler is needed? I have Visual Studio 2003 and 2005, but isn't some sort of cross compiler needed for Windows Mobile?
Also, can the the .NET compact framework be installed on Windows Mobile? If so, will a Windows .NET app run on it?
Sorry for the basic questions, but one has to start somewhere!!
Thanks

Daeljan said:
Hi all,
I just bought an O2 XDA(ii). Regarding software development, what compiler is needed? I have Visual Studio 2003 and 2005, but isn't some sort of cross compiler needed for Windows Mobile?
Also, can the the .NET compact framework be installed on Windows Mobile? If so, will a Windows .NET app run on it?
Sorry for the basic questions, but one has to start somewhere!!
Thanks
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In order to develop applications for pocket pcs, you need to download the sdks from Microsoft.
With VS2005 you can create .Net applications for pocket pcs and test them on an emulator or on the device directly.
There is a .Net framework installed on WM2005 pocket pcs.
Cheers,
.Fred

Excellent - thanks!

Which languages for WM devices?

I come from years of Symbian PDA owning/development, and I had several languages available, besides C++: OPL (Basic-like), PersonalJava, J2ME, MidletPascal, Python, Jython, m-Shell... all of them for FREE!
What are the alternatives on a WM machine? Can I only develop in C++, or have I some FREE alternatives?

do you mean languages or programming envioments ?
embedded visual studio is free if you mean envioments

Rudegar said:
do you mean languages or programming envioments ?
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both.
I just found info about the embedded visual studio you talk about. I see c++ allows API access,but VB cannot. Any workaround?
I also found WABA and EWE: for the first, site states "you can write native code by modifing WABA sources"; I guess it means writing additional C++ code?
for the second, it says it allows accessing native functions: does it mean you can use EWE to start/receive calls, send/receive SMS, access COM port,...?

The following languages/interpreters are used nicely on HTC Typhoon:
1. Jython 2.2 for Java 1.1.8 SE (along with Personal Java CE 1.1 and the JDK runtime/library);
2. Perl CE 5.8.0 from the Rainer-Keuchel portings;
3. nScriptm HPCARM 0.104 by Nakka/ S/K;
4. Rebol CE 1.5.5 by Carl Sassenrath.
An advanced application manager such as SPHelper is needed to solve the pointing device stuff ...
There is a Smartphone patch for Python CE from one of the developers at SF.net released in March I did not try yet, (perhaps someone interested will) ...

anfd said:
The following languages/interpreters are used nicely on HTC Typhoon:
1. Jython 2.2 for Java 1.1.8 SE (along with Personal Java CE 1.1 and the JDK runtime/library);
2. Perl CE 5.8.0 from the Rainer-Keuchel portings;
3. nScriptm HPCARM 0.104 by Nakka/ S/K;
4. Rebol CE 1.5.5 by Carl Sassenrath.
An advanced application manager such as SPHelper is needed to solve the pointing device stuff ...
There is a Smartphone patch for Python CE from one of the developers at SF.net released in March I did not try yet, (perhaps someone interested will) ...
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thanks, that's very interesting, especially Jython: Is Java 1.1.8 supported by all HTC devices?

Yupp, it sure is ... but Sun Microsystems stopped releasing it alltogether to the end user, R.I.P Personal Java (this was the actual compatibility with CE) ...
The link is:
isiam.blogspot.com (I`ve made it as described) ...

anfd said:
Yupp, it sure is ... but Sun Microsystems stopped releasing it alltogether to the end user, R.I.P Personal Java (this was the actual compatibility with CE) ...
The link is:
isiam.blogspot.com (I`ve made it as described) ...
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that blog is just the reason for which I asked about PersonalJava compatibility
I use PJ compatible PDAs since several years (SonyEricsson p800, Motorola a1000...), and I'd like to continue being able to use PJ applications even when I'll pass to Windows PDA!

I guess you can add Python CE v2.5 to that list as well now ...
It`ll be working fine on every single WM version existing, although I did not test`em all:
http://downloads.sourceforge.net/pythonce/PythonCE.WM.CAB?modtime=1191509518&big_mirror=0

java emulator

hello
i have a hp 2210 pocketpc with windows mobile 2003 (wm3).
can anyone give me a java emulator for the wm3...
i found a lot of emulator of java for pocketpc but all these emulator were for a wm5/6 and nothing match to my wm3...
so can anyone send me a working java emulator for wm3?
thanks

mejok said:
hello
i have a hp 2210 pocketpc with windows mobile 2003 (wm3).
can anyone give me a java emulator for the wm3...
i found a lot of emulator of java for pocketpc but all these emulator were for a wm5/6 and nothing match to my wm3...
so can anyone send me a working java emulator for wm3?
thanks
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always read the Wiki first; most importantly, the MIDlet Bible...
You'll need either IBM J9 or a 10-series TAO.

i tried to install the ibm j9 but it didnt work in my wm3?!
i really dont know why it said that this software version is not capable with my windows version??

mejok said:
i tried to install the ibm j9 but it didnt work in my wm3?!
i really dont know why it said that this software version is not capable with my windows version??
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which version did you install?

this version:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Emulators/IBM-MIDP-2-0-Java-Emulator-38910.shtml
i tried to install...
can you give me a work version for my wm3?
i tried all the java emulators over the internet and nothing capable to my wm3?!
thanks

this version:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Emulators/IBM-MIDP-2-0-Java-Emulator-38910.shtml
i tried to install...
can you give me a work version for my wm3?
i tried all the java emulators over the internet and nothing capable to my wm3?!
and i tried to install ibm j9 link that you have in the wiki-xda...and it doesnt capable with my wm3 too...
thanks