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MDA Vario 2 - Busy tone issue and Windows live contacts

Hi,
this is my post so go easy Ok I have, despite my reservations I purchased a smartphone. I went for the MDA Vario II and already I am running into problems:
Issue 1:
When I try and make a voice call and the no is engaged I hear a very offensive tone that always plays through the speaker, on top of this following the tone all my sounds go off so I cant hear any ringtones etc or play mp3s, the only way round it is to go to the phone dialer and press a button. Is there any way to resolve this? I see some other people have been having this issue,i think this issue might apply to making voice calls as well i.e. it seems to turn off all sounds unless you go back to the keypad tones :-(
Issue 2:
I have just installed Windows Live and it seems to have hijacked my contacts, I now have all my messenger contacts mixed with my phone contacts i dont want this! How do I hide them without having to delete everyone from my messenger contacts...
Sigh...I shouldn't of strayed from nokia......(battery life is horrible)

chaz_redux said:
Sigh...I shouldn't of strayed from nokia......(battery life is horrible)
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If you set the phone to GSM only the battery life is pretty great, had mine on for 4 days now and with some use battery is at 70%. I switch the 3g on when I really need it, doesn't take long.

I switch the 3g on when I really need it, doesn't take long.
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how do i actually do that?
plus are you having any of the similar probs with your handset when making voice calls?
cheers for the tips

chaz_redux said:
how do i actually do that?
plus are you having any of the similar probs with your handset when making voice calls?
cheers for the tips
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No problems with voice calls, although I'm using the latest HTC firmware. To change the connection the phone is using;
From the dialpad screen press the Menu button, select Options, then Band. In the drop down for network selection type choose GSM for, well GSM only, auto will revert to using GSM or UMTS.
You have to close the data connection before doing this or it won't let you.

Ahh i thought as much, i was looking at a way of turning off 3g but keeping gprs no wants GSM!
Hmm could i upgrade my firmware on my Vario II to the HTC one, also where is the best place to get official software updates for devices...do I go to T-mobile?

chaz_redux said:
Ahh i thought as much, i was looking at a way of turning off 3g but keeping gprs no wants GSM!
Hmm could i upgrade my firmware on my Vario II to the HTC one, also where is the best place to get official software updates for devices...do I go to T-mobile?
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Setting it to GSM in the menu I said still lets you use GPRS and EDGE (GSM dialup for data would be horrible).
No idea about official updates, but there's no file on the wiki for an updated firmware from t-mobile.

Trinity data link and lost calls problems

Hi all
I am wondering about the purchase of a Trinity. Someone, on an italian forum, has posted the problem of incoming calls lost (the caller receives a busy line signal or the phone results unreachable) while the phone has a data connection active (apparently only an HSDPA one). Has any one observed a similar problem ?
Thank you everyone.

hawk971 said:
Hi all
I am wondering about the purchase of a Trinity. Someone, on an italian forum, has posted the problem of incoming calls lost (the caller receives a busy line signal or the phone results unreachable) while the phone has a data connection active (apparently only an HSDPA one). Has any one observed a similar problem ?
Thank you everyone.
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This is standard behaviour when transferring data over 2G GPRS. It should not happen on 3G. I have received phone calls while using 3G data and the phone rang as normal.... I can't report about HSDPA (is there a simple way to check if HSDPA is actually used?)

anonimo said:
This is standard behaviour when transferring data over 2G GPRS...
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No, it's not, voice calls always have higher priority even in 2G networks.
Can someone else confirm this issue with Trinity?

banesi said:
No, it's not, voice calls always have higher priority even in 2G networks.
Can someone else confirm this issue with Trinity?
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Well.... it's the third time in a few days in this forum that I post something and I am told that I am wrong. The previous two times in the end I happened to be right, so according to statistics I should indeed be wrong this time!
However I think I might be right this time too! The standard behaviour with GPRS sessions is that they are interrupted when they are idle and an incoming call is received; if data is being transferred then the phone will be busy.
Obviously for outgoing calls the phone will stop the data session when you want to make a call.
(All this for GPRS on GSM)
PS: You don't believe me try to use a GSM phone as GPRS modem for a PC, start a large file transfer and try to receive a call.

anonimo said:
PS: You don't believe me try to use a GSM phone as GPRS modem for a PC, start a large file transfer and try to receive a call.
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Well, since I use GPRS internet for more than 3 years actively and have changed a couple of phones already I must say that GPRS system is projected in a way that voice calls are priority in any situation. In this years I have found that sometimes my phone is not reachable when I'm connected to a GPRS but that percentage is rather small, could be some other problems related to a base stations.
In your case I would think of contacting your operator, change phone or just change a carrier, being unreachable during GPRS sessions is something that I will characterized as bug, at least. NHF

banesi said:
In your case I would think of contacting your operator, change phone or just change a carrier, being unreachable during GPRS sessions is something that I will characterized as bug, at least. NHF
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You are right. It was a very common bug in the early Class B GPRS phones and I thought it was supposed to be like that, but indeed even a class B device should suspend the data session and ring when a call is received.
However I am reading in other forums that this is now happening again with HSDPA.... the joy of early adoption

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You are right. It was a very common bug in the early Class B GPRS phones and I thought it was supposed to be like that, but indeed even a class B device should suspend the data session and ring when a call is received.
However I am reading in other forums that this is now happening again with HSDPA.... the joy of early adoption
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I had some strange behavior like a busy signal when I had my phone set to 3G only, but I think it was because of marginal reception. I changed the frequencies to automatic and haven't had any problems since.

hawk971 said:
Hi all
I am wondering about the purchase of a Trinity. Someone, on an italian forum, has posted the problem of incoming calls lost (the caller receives a busy line signal or the phone results unreachable) while the phone has a data connection active (apparently only an HSDPA one). Has any one observed a similar problem ?
Thank you everyone.
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Hello hawk971,
I have the exact same experience while being persistently connected on the Swedish HSDPA network (Hi3G) I cannot receive or even make calls, most of the time. It's like i can sometimes manage to "slip through" with a call, and even an incoming call can get through if i'm lucky. I have figured out that if i end the data connection and make the call, i can re-login with the connection and keep babbling on the phone.
The problem started to appear right after we moved to a different area where HSDPA is deployed, at first the problem was very sproadic, but now the network is growing, so does the blocked calls.
Luckily i get an sms from the 3 network saying that someone has tried to call without leaving a message, otherwise i'd be clueless.
I have considered contacting 3 operator to discuss this, but i reckon i might loose the HSDPA access then because i have only 3G subscription but somehow my phone (which is purchased without operator lock and not from 3) snaps right onto the HSDPA access nevertheless. I have a consistent 1Mbits/s DOWNLINK and 350kbits/s UPLINK connection while running TPTEST on the laptop and using the P3600 with internet sharing and USB-cable.
I so would like to be able to stay on the HSDPA but right now i am considering to drop the high-speed since the phone part is basically rendered useless. I am also using GpsGate in the car, so my internet is always on, transmitting position, i guess that makes the problem worse. I might have to drop that...
I had a friend told me he had the same problem with TyTn and Hi3G here in Gothenburg. That makes me think that there's no particular problem with my phone. Rather it's a network problem that they yet have to solve.
Anyway, that's a long post!
P.S. Does anyone know how i can disable/enable HSDPA on the P3600 easily?
Cheerio

just remove link to "enableHSDPA.exe" in \windows\startup folder and soft reset you phone.

I can't find this file (enableHSDPA.exe) anywhere in my P3600....

Bump!
SecureGSM can you please elaborate a bit on this .exe file. I have a standard HTC P3600 and I don't see this file anywhere in the file system.

i'd like to know how i enable HSDPA on my HTC P3600. has anyone had success doing so?

try the fit4cat regedit program

MontAlbert said:
try the fit4cat regedit program
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I recently installed the fit4can or HTweakC as it is now called from here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Registry. It allows you to turn off HSDPA and do other tweaks to your Trinity. No harm is done since you can turn the HSDPA back on again anytime. Since I upgraded to the new 1.38 Radio, I was picking up HSDPA all the time at home, and every time my phone was auto checking email I'd miss calls. This HSDPA "feature" needs a little work.

GPRS Issues

Hi
Ive had my Advantage for two days now, and i have missed 16 calls, even though the phone is on and has full signal, after playing around this afternoon it appears to be if there is a data connection active (GPRS) ie active sync live search maps, remote desktop calls get rejected.
Ive had an JasJar for the past year and never seemed to get the issue with that, and im using the same SIM / Network / Number i was before.
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the phone to pause the data connection so the phone can ring?
Does anyone else have the same issue?
Regards
Ben

myrapid said:
Hi
Ive had my Advantage for two days now, and i have missed 16 calls, even though the phone is on and has full signal, after playing around this afternoon it appears to be if there is a data connection active (GPRS) ie active sync live search maps, remote desktop calls get rejected.
Ive had an JasJar for the past year and never seemed to get the issue with that, and im using the same SIM / Network / Number i was before.
Does anyone have any ideas how to get the phone to pause the data connection so the phone can ring?
Does anyone else have the same issue?
Regards
Ben
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you don't happens to be using Vodafone do you? If so i know exactly what is going on.....

Nope
No, i am on tmobile UK, what i don't get is that i works fine if i swap the sim back to my JasJar.
Ben

I miss calls all the time, about 70% of my calls fail for some reason or another.
T-Mobile Suck. I never had this much trouble with O2.
I have done experiments where somebody stood next to me calls me, and gets "the number you are calling is not available" while my phone, next to them is turned on with full battery and signal...
Even outgoing calls fail randomly, just says "calling" for ages then stops for no reason.

Ive had not trouble with tmobile since i have been with them (over 18 months) until i got the advantage, ive cloned every single setting i can from my jasjar and still no look, its a shame as looks like im going to have to disable push email!

myrapid said:
Ive had not trouble with tmobile since i have been with them (over 18 months) until i got the advantage, ive cloned every single setting i can from my jasjar and still no look, its a shame as looks like im going to have to disable push email!
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that is strange, mine one now works perfectly, so when you miss your call, are you on 3.5G( HSDPA ) network or are you on GPRS?

wu5262 said:
that is strange, mine one now works perfectly, so when you miss your call, are you on 3.5G( HSDPA ) network or are you on GPRS?
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Standard GPRS, it only happens when there is a contasnt data flow if it is just connected and the connection is not being used it calls in fine.
EG if i use remote desktop / terminal services over GPRS then call the advtange at the same time it goes to answer phone, although it does take around 10 seconds before it does though but doesn't ring, like it is looking for a signal/trying to connect.

myrapid said:
Standard GPRS, it only happens when there is a contasnt data flow if it is just connected and the connection is not being used it calls in fine.
EG if i use remote desktop / terminal services over GPRS then call the advtange at the same time it goes to answer phone, although it does take around 10 seconds before it does though but doesn't ring, like it is looking for a signal/trying to connect.
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may i ask is there any reason why you are not using 3G? GPRS tend to have this problem, but 3G won't.

wu5262 said:
may i ask is there any reason why you are not using 3G? GPRS tend to have this problem, but 3G won't.
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Coverage, my house and my office don't have 3G coverage, else i would be.

i was on o2 b4 n hardly ever had 3g signal n when i did my video calling never worked....since moving 2 t-mobile ive had no problem....my data connection is mon 9 till 6 b it 3.5g, 3g or gprs n i use cortado.com push email service for instant emails.....i still receive calls when connected
using the flext 50 with web n walk

I'm in the US using T-Mobile and GPRS and don't have this problem. I'll try to make it "break" and see if I experience the problem but just never noticed it.

If using GPRS and a call comes at the exact time you are receiving data, your call will go to voice mail or unanswered. Its the way the radio is designed...SOme carriers have been successful at ending the data stream and raising the priority of the voice. But GPRS modem in most phones only allows data or voice not both...but,
If using 3g/utms it should ring on the phone. And allow data and voice at the same time.
Maybe you universal is grabbing the 3g signal and for some reason the 7500 is using gprs.
Wu has also reported this problem with Vodaphone and Hsdpa...

eagle 1 said:
If using GPRS and a call comes at the exact time you are receiving data, your call will go to voice mail or unanswered. Its the way the radio is designed...SOme carriers have been successful at ending the data stream and raising the priority of the voice. But GPRS modem in most phones only allows data or voice not both...but,
If using 3g/utms it should ring on the phone. And allow data and voice at the same time.
Maybe you universal is grabbing the 3g signal and for some reason the 7500 is using gprs.
Wu has also reported this problem with Vodaphone and Hsdpa...
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that is very correct, i have just change to T-Mobile yesterday, now my HSDPA works perfectly with voice, when voices comes in, it will switch the network to 3G and allow voices to comes in, data is still connected, just lower the bandwidth. Too bad that this doesn't work on Vodafone

Has anyone found a solution for this?
Regards,
Hollinshead

hollinshead said:
Has anyone found a solution for this?
Regards,
Hollinshead
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there is no solution, the only thing you can do is swap your operator, or just don't use 3g at all....

Using GPRS I Can Not Recevie Calls

I activate unlimited GPRS package 5 days ago problem is I connect with GPRS Download files or browsing I can not receive calls I call to help line I send a Mail to mobile operator but all says using GPRS here on all the setting is ok.
any one using I-mate jamjam GPRS and facing this problem or not please help me I call to my mobile operator he says set these options on you phone
Go to Setting and set the priority of data option to call i can not found this setting on i-mate jasjam please help me.

please help me

bhooralshah786 said:
I activate unlimited GPRS package 5 days ago problem is I connect with GPRS Download files or browsing I can not receive calls I call to help line I send a Mail to mobile operator but all says using GPRS here on all the setting is ok.
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This is normal. GPRS and voice calls use the same radio, so when the data connection is active, voice calls won't work. Former co-worker had this (we tested it) with a wizard. He started the data connection, I tried calling his number, and my call went immediately to the voice mail system. There are two ways to change this behavior:
1. Use 3G
2. Use a phone with dual radios
bhooralshah786 said:
any one using I-mate jamjam GPRS and facing this problem or not please help me I call to my mobile operator he says set these options on you phone
Go to Setting and set the priority of data option to call i can not found this setting on i-mate jasjam please help me.
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I've never heard of a setting like that. It may be something that your carrier has on it's own version of the ROM, or something that is available on other phones.
I know my wife's hermes will drop the data connection when a voice calls comes in (happened a few days ago with an official HTC ROM), but I've never seen a setting that is changeable.

Try turning on Call Waiting, that sometimes works, depending on carrier.

i get the same problem.its not your phone because it happens to me when am using my n95 on edge.so i just bought a cheap ass phone n diverted all calls to that number when unavailable.at least am not missing any important calls that way..
i get the same problem to when using the tytn too..so i use the same solution

jdc said:
I know my wife's hermes will drop the data connection when a voice calls comes in (happened a few days ago with an official HTC ROM), but I've never seen a setting that is changeable.
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I use HTC Official ROM my problem will be solved or not please provide HTC hermes Official ROM windows Mobile 6.1 link to download
other mobile operator in the country i use i receive the calls only in one operator this problem create i used this operator

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Try turning on Call Waiting, that sometimes works, depending on carrier.
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I check but problem is not solved.

"This is normal. GPRS and voice calls use the same radio, so when the data connection is active, voice calls won't work. "
no it's not a phone or general thing it's how modern the central one connects to is
older ones block, newer ones pause gprs while the call is on
newest can multiplex and run both at once and not just for 3g and edge

the fact that you don't get this problem on other operators could be down to two things.
1: the other operators have programmed their networks correctly to give priority to voice rather than data, and so they pause the GPRS and route the call to you.
2: the other networks give you 3G rather than GPRS. this is more likely to allow simultaneous voice and data.
Of course, as rudegar said, it depends on the infrastructure of the operator. I know of many networks in europe where the network is programmed to go straight to voicemail even on 3G/HSDPA. talk about not using the full potential of the technology....

bhooralshah786 said:
I use HTC Official ROM my problem will be solved or not please provide HTC hermes Official ROM windows Mobile 6.1 link to download
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There isn't a official WM6.1 for the hermes. My wife's phone is running WM6.

Rudegar said:
"This is normal. GPRS and voice calls use the same radio, so when the data connection is active, voice calls won't work. "
no it's not a phone or general thing it's how modern the central one connects to is
older ones block, newer ones pause gprs while the call is on
newest can multiplex and run both at once and not just for 3g and edge
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Ah, I wasn't aware of this. So if I understand correctly, if the radio (and stack) is modern enough, the data connection will be 'on hold' while the voice is handled, then pick up where it left off, correct? Or is that handled by the carrier, or a combination of the two?

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1: the other operators have programmed their networks correctly to give priority to voice rather than data, and so they pause the GPRS and route the call to you
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I think this options is write in my countary total five operators i received calls on 4 operator but i not used these operators
but problem only in my operator

"Ah, I wasn't aware of this. So if I understand correctly, if the radio (and stack) is modern enough"
no the hardware in your operators central which recieve your call
it's not phone depending at all

Call Forwarding Icon in Task Bar...ARGHHHH

how do i get rid of it, everytime i restart the phone, it comes back...its pissing me offfff LMAOOO HAHA....please anyone...help meeee

Did you ever figure this out?
I'm having this problem too since the latest rom upgrade. Seen a few others with the same problem after upgrading as well. I'm using ATT US X1a rom1.03.948.8.
I've tried a hard reset, swapping the sim out (as mentioned in another thread), using forwarding cancel codes (##62#), and obviously the normal call forwarding settings on the phone. It clears up the problem for a few soft resets, then it comes right back again.

call forwarding..
you seem to have call forwarding turned on.
Phone - Menu - Settings - services - call forwarding - get settings
there you will have all these type of settings like forward to number with no answer and also forward all calls.. just uncheck them all i guess.
Thanks
daniel

In NAM on AT&T, call forwarding is always turned on for something. Normally, it's turned on only for no answer and unreachable.
The phone should not show the call forwarding icon when these are the only services activated.
I don't understand how or why it happens, but I will occasionally get the call forward icon showing when I have nothing special turned on.
It will eventually go away, usually after I've had to power the device for some reason. Note, however, that it will not necessarily go away if I power the device to the specific purpose of removing the call forwarding icon.
I've never figured out what makes it show or why it goes away.
Lucky for me, I'm not too troubled by it.

Hmm
I think this problem is carrier related, (carriers have control over your call forwarding) because I have had this problem on many different phones from different manufacturers over the years. Not on my Xperia yet though.

Thanks for the replies. As stated in the earlier post, I have already tried unchecking, rechecking etc. As soon as it connects to the network it goes away. It seems to be an issue with the newest rom though as the previous rom does not have this issue at all (for me at least).
Call forwarding is definitely on the carrier side, but as soon as the phone connects to the network to pull call forward settings, it will always change the icon to the correct status (ie icon is there when forward all calls is on and not when it's not), which tells me that it's probably an issue with the rom, not the carrier. You're right about the settings George, but unfortunately I do use call forwarding from time to time and need to know when its truly on or off .
I've tried tweaking the cf values in the registry as well at hklm\software\htc\phone without any luck.

The call forwarding icon is also showing on my X1 I am on Orange UK.
I guess it can't be fixed.

Guys in US with AT&T.
I've got this issue that might be stupid but I suffer from it really bad. Everytime I get a new voice message, a text comes in with weired notes (which I know is for the phone to notify me) but I have to delete the sucker everytime. Or everytime I am in the voice box, it sends me another txt for deletion/
How can I get rid of this?
Do you guys have a good visual voice message system installed?
AT&T doesn't support any other phones except what they sell. AHhh
Thank you all.

Oddly enough my problem went away. I still think it's a ROM issue. I was playing with some other roms and eventually ended up flashing back to NAM R2AA008 (1.03.948.8). Restored my old config with full SPB backup and I haven't had the problem since.
I'm guessing that "if" it was a settings issue, the backup would've just recreated the issue. Plus hard resets didn't make the problem go away either. I even tried changing to a new sim as some people tried in other posts. But completely reflashing the rom seems to have done the trick for me at least.
The only difference that I can see is that I did the first update through SEUS. All the other flashes were done the old fashioned way. Not saying this would work for others, but it's been gone for weeks now for me.

Solution
Dial ##21# on the X1.
The "Call Forwarding" icon will disappear on the top bar of your X1. But, it won't affect your call fwd settings in the operator's mobile system.

P.S. I mean it won't change the call fwd settings defined by operator in the mobile system, e.g. no answer and the call will be directed to voice mail system.
##21# is the function code to cancel call fwd setup by your phone. If you did setup some call fwd scenarios on your phone, the call fwd icon will be displayed as an indicator for call forward is active.
For the purpose of just get rid of the icon right after power on or soft reset the phone, I think it is a simple solution.

minglee said:
Dial ##21# on the X1.
The "Call Forwarding" icon will disappear on the top bar of your X1. But, it won't affect your call fwd settings in the operator's mobile system.
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I think most of the people having this problem on the thread are referring to a strange bug that seems to be affecting a small percentage of users. I've seen the same problem posted on a few other sites/threads as well. It doesn't really have to do with call forwarding being on at all, it's just that the icon is there. Using the forward codes or forcing an update will make it go away temporarily, but for me it kept eventually coming back no matter what I did. When my phone had the problem, I tried 21, 69, 67, 61. None of them made the issue go away permanently.

My X1 has this kind of problem as well. It is the problem from X1 itself, maybe the X1 can not log into the 2G or 3G network very well.

Nimche said:
Guys in US with AT&T.
I've got this issue that might be stupid but I suffer from it really bad. Everytime I get a new voice message, a text comes in ....
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Whoa. LOL... I haven't seen this since the old Synergy Motorola days when we were all fascinated with foreign firmware.
I do not have this issue with the generic NAM or generic UK ROM in their latest iterations.
I guess the first thing anybody would normally suggest is to make sure you're on one of these ROM.

elite-fusion said:
how do i get rid of it, everytime i restart the phone, it comes back...its pissing me offfff LMAOOO HAHA....please anyone...help meeee
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This is a carrier related issues. Some carrier has 2G and 3G network that if the area is not covered by 3G network, Internal using forward to their own 2G network in order to let the phone work. It happen not just on the X1, It happen on all other WM base phone I have before. However, if your carrier has only a single network whether it is 2G or 3G. This forward logo will go away. Good example. the 3 mobile Network in Hong Kong has 2G and 3G separate and on my X1, which use the 3 mobile has the forward logo all the time but on my Touch HD, I use the Smartone network which have a combine 2G and 3G network and you never see the forward logo.

Just so you know, same problem here.
The solution? I heop someone makes a pretty version for the "Call forwarding" icon haha.

With the help of Bxsteez I have fixed this issue with the R2 rom always doing this...
WC

Since the last firmware update, I have the same icon showing up.
But there is a cure at least for US AT&T.........
Like it has been said before go to phone setting
Select Call Forwarding and hit the get setting button...
Once it retrieves the setting from AT&T net, the icon goes Bye-Bye!!
I have to do this every hard-reset or complete power down...
This what works for me...
Stuart

scl_electronics said:
Since the last firmware update, I have the same icon showing up.
But there is a cure at least for US AT&T.........
Like it has been said before go to phone setting
Select Call Forwarding and hit the get setting button...
Once it retrieves the setting from AT&T net, the icon goes Bye-Bye!!
I have to do this every hard-reset or complete power down...
This what works for me...
Stuart
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Same here for T-mobile

Same problem on my X1 and I am using HK 3 network..