I have installed the Sandisk WIFI on my XDAII for internet and network (Resco Explorer). All is connected to my Wi-fi ADSL Modem/Router with a network cable to my PC. It all works fine.
I do have two questions, just to make myself sure:
Settings > Connections.
1. I set the connection as "Internet". What is the meaning of "Work"?
2. Why should I set up a VPN? And what is it? I set up a VPN with info from my ADSL provider.
Bart
It aint very well explained in the manual and is not intuative at all. An 'internet' connection is one through wish you can obtain internet access, A 'work' connection is one through which you can access your internal servers, but not obtain internet access. In a 'work' profile, you can make a change in the proxy server settings such that you can, through a 'work' profile obtain internet access.
VPN is 'virtual private network' this is a secure connection to your work/home network that is routed over the internet. Via a VPN, you can for instance browse network shares on your work network, or connect to the company intranet. To use a VPN connection, you need to have a VPN server to connect. A VPN server may be provided by your company or your router may support it. NB: A VPN Passthrough on a router is not a VPN server - it simply means that you can VPN out from a natted machine on your LAN, or, in some cases, place a VPN server within your lan.
My device is setup as follows in connections --> Network Management
Under the first drop down for internet I have a profile 'My ISP' with a single GPRS connection to APN: mobile.o2.co.uk defined
Under the second drop down for work, I have a profile 'VPN Settings' which simply has 2 VPN settings defined 'Work VPN' and 'Home VPN' (all other settings, eg 'modem' are left blank).
When I connect via GPRS to mobile.o2.co.uk, I get 2 VPN options appear the connected GPRS connection (in the 'connectivity' speech bubble that appears when you click the connections icon in the bar @ the top). These are 'Work VPN' and 'Home VPN' with a 'connect vpn' option next to them. I just manually connect these as required.
For WiFi, I make sure that my wifi adapter and wifi network I am connected to is labeled as 'internet' rather than 'work'. I then get the VPN options mentioned above appearing below my wifi connection in the 'connectivity' speech bubble. Unfortunately they refuse to connect!! I dont know why. Looking through the forums, it seems that no one is able to get the VPN to connect over an existing wifi connection.
Hope this helps
Nigel
Okay, this has been bugging me for a long time, so I decided to solve this by myself once and for all.
Situation:
1. GPRS requires a proxy connection
2. WiFi and ActiveSync (A.S. on PC when connecting to an Exchange Server) "inherit" the same GPRS proxy settings, and are unable to connect to that proxy server, which make them both unusable.
So, naturally, I configured "The Internet" connection to use the GPRS access point and the GPRS proxy,
And "My Work Network" to be an internet connection WITHOUT a proxy.
But for some reason, that doesn't work.
The connections tab doesn't let "My Work Network" to be a "proxyless" internet connection.
I tried many configurations, trying to fool the wifi connection, until I got to a final solution that works.
The wifi knows to pick the connection without the proxy, so does the activesync, and so does the default GPRS connection, when no other connection is present, automatically!
So, the solution is this:
1. Go to the Start->Settings->Connections->Advanced tab->Select networks
Under "Programs that… Internet should connect using"
Click New to create a new connection:
Name for settings: Direct Internet
Modem: Leave Blank
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the internet [Check]
This network uses a proxy [Uncheck, or Check and fill in your home proxy settings]
Click OK.
2. Under "Programs that… private network should connect using"
Click New to create a new connection:
Name for settings: GPRS Internet
Modem: Click New, and follow the wizard to add your GPRS access point.
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the internet [Check]
This network uses a proxy [Uncheck, or Check and fill in your GPRS proxy settings]
Click OK until all windows are closed.
3. Now we need to get WiFi and AS to use the "Direct Internet" we created.
Go to the Start->Settings->Network Cards (Or Wi-Fi for some OSs)->Network Adapters tab
My Network card connects to:
set "The Internet"
(This will make your Wifi choose the "Direct Internet" connection, with the proxy you specified, or without a proxy)
4. On your PC, Open the Microsoft ActiveSync Window (Make Sure you have ActiveSync 4.5 or higher)
Click File->Connection Settings
This computer is connected to:
set "The Internet"
(This will make your ActiveSync inherit the "Direct Internet" connection, with the proxy you specified, or without a proxy)
That’s it, you're done!
The beauty is that Windows mobile knows it needs to use the "GPRS Internet", only when other connections are not present.
Now you don't have to mess with selecting a proxyless connection when connecting to a WiFi source, or using activesync
thank you very much for this, has helped very much.
i think this is a brilliant work around...... thank u soooooooo very much... i have been banging my head endlessly to try and find some solution to the problem i had.... and nothing could have been better than this....
:cheers:
Shlomki is there any way i can force MS Exchange to use AS when cradled? coz somehow it connects using GPRS even when cradled and connected to AS...
i'm happy to hear it helped you both!
phreaker18 said:
Shlomki is there any way i can force MS Exchange to use AS when cradled? coz somehow it connects using GPRS even when cradled and connected to AS...
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if you followed the steps exactly as i described, exchange SHOULD use AS (your PC's internet connection). that's how its working for me right now.
when cradled and connected to AS, did you try browsing to a website to see which connection it tries to use? try to use PIE and see if it tries to connect to the GPRS or the PC's internet connection.
if it uses GPRS also, there might be a problem with your settings..
Repeat stages 1 & 4, they are critical for that matter.
Try stage 1 without entering a proxy server. just uncheck the proxy settings and check "This network connects to the internet".
Shlomki do u think i should uncheck enable advanced networking in settings--> connections-->USB to PC....?? do u think that maybe the problem creator?
shlomki said:
2. Under "Programs that… private network should connect using"
Click New to create a new connection:
Name for settings: GPRS Internet
Modem: Click New, and follow the wizard to add your GPRS access point.
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the internet [Check]
This network uses a proxy [Uncheck, or Check and fill in your GPRS proxy settings]
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when i complete step 2 [without checking proxy settings] and go back to see if this connects to the internet is checked or not it is always unchecked even though i check it some seconds more... am i doing something wrong here?? i dont think my GPRS connection uses any proxy settings...
phreaker18 said:
when i complete step 2 [without checking proxy settings] and go back to see if this connects to the internet is checked or not it is always unchecked even though i check it some seconds more... am i doing something wrong here?? i dont think my GPRS connection uses any proxy settings...
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yes, it happens to me also. i think thats the way they intended it to be.
when you use a proxy with the work network, it doesnt uncheck the internet option.
are you using a proxy at all?
no i dont use a proxy..... i connect to the internet using a cable modem... n between the cable modem and the PC is my netgear WiFi router...
then why did you follow a post that's inteded for proxy connections
just select your proxyless gprs settings as your internet connection, and set active sync (on the pc) and network cards (on the ppc) to use "the internet".
im sorry if i didnt make myself clear.... i had proxies... since ur method didnt work i changed the whole setup on my PC and now i dont use a proxy...
but ur post was very informative nonetheless..
thank u again
shlomki said:
Okay, this has been bugging me for a long time, so I decided to solve this by myself once and for all.
Situation:
1. GPRS requires a proxy connection
2. WiFi and ActiveSync (A.S. on PC when connecting to an Exchange Server) "inherit" the same GPRS proxy settings, and are unable to connect to that proxy server, which make them both unusable.
So, naturally, I configured "The Internet" connection to use the GPRS access point and the GPRS proxy,
And "My Work Network" to be an internet connection WITHOUT a proxy.
But for some reason, that doesn't work.
The connections tab doesn't let "My Work Network" to be a "proxyless" internet connection.
I tried many configurations, trying to fool the wifi connection, until I got to a final solution that works.
The wifi knows to pick the connection without the proxy, so does the activesync, and so does the default GPRS connection, when no other connection is present, automatically!
So, the solution is this:
1. Go to the Start->Settings->Connections->Advanced tab->Select networks
Under "Programs that… Internet should connect using"
Click New to create a new connection:
Name for settings: Direct Internet
Modem: Leave Blank
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the internet [Check]
This network uses a proxy [Uncheck, or Check and fill in your home proxy settings]
Click OK.
2. Under "Programs that… private network should connect using"
Click New to create a new connection:
Name for settings: GPRS Internet
Modem: Click New, and follow the wizard to add your GPRS access point.
Proxy Settings:
This network connects to the internet [Check]
This network uses a proxy [Uncheck, or Check and fill in your GPRS proxy settings]
Click OK until all windows are closed.
3. Now we need to get WiFi and AS to use the "Direct Internet" we created.
Go to the Start->Settings->Network Cards (Or Wi-Fi for some OSs)->Network Adapters tab
My Network card connects to:
set "The Internet"
(This will make your Wifi choose the "Direct Internet" connection, with the proxy you specified, or without a proxy)
4. On your PC, Open the Microsoft ActiveSync Window (Make Sure you have ActiveSync 4.5 or higher)
Click File->Connection Settings
This computer is connected to:
set "The Internet"
(This will make your ActiveSync inherit the "Direct Internet" connection, with the proxy you specified, or without a proxy)
That’s it, you're done!
The beauty is that Windows mobile knows it needs to use the "GPRS Internet", only when other connections are not present.
Now you don't have to mess with selecting a proxyless connection when connecting to a WiFi source, or using activesync
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Thank you so much for this work around. You don't know how long I have been fighting this problem. What an elegant solution!
I think that I might try to abuse this to let other porgrams connect using T-mo GPRS since it seems that only web works when the Proxy is on, and other things work when its not.
woah
shlomki your the man!!!!
wahhhh
stumbled said:
shlomki your the man!!!!
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ei shlomki, i use ur configuration for two days, after that I can't connect to my wifi router anymore
what will i do?????
stumbled said:
ei shlomki, i use ur configuration for two days, after that I can't connect to my wifi router anymore
what will i do?????
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are you using wm6?
wm6 roms have a known issue with connecting to some secured networks.
try to set your router to allow unsecured connections and reconfigure your wifi settings in your ppc.
if it connects fine, the problem is with the wifi drivers.
shlomki said:
are you using wm6?
wm6 roms have a known issue with connecting to some secured networks.
try to set your router to allow unsecured connections and reconfigure your wifi settings in your ppc.
if it connects fine, the problem is with the wifi drivers.
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im using WM5 in my Xda IIs blueangel...
what will i do?
stumbled said:
im using WM5 in my Xda IIs blueangel...
what will i do?
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i don't know, sorry.
but it has nothing to do with proxy settings.
go to the blueangel forum in xda-developers and ask for help...
good luck
Hi Shlomki.
Followed the instructions when trying to connect with explorer it says cannot connect with these settings after further investagation for some reason the this connection connets to the internet check box won´t stick on the new connection we made or on work connection every time i go back to check it it´s unchecked again any ideas thanks
Dave
pftg4 said:
Hi Shlomki.
Followed the instructions when trying to connect with explorer it says cannot connect with these settings after further investagation for some reason the this connection connets to the internet check box won´t stick on the new connection we made or on work connection every time i go back to check it it´s unchecked again any ideas thanks
Dave
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read the manual again, from start to finish, and do not skip a word.
if you're not using a proxy in your "Work Network Settings", this manual is not for you.
I nerver really understood Microsofts concept behind the Internet / Private Network differentiation in WM, therefore i got a small problem right now.
What i would like to do is browsing the internet using PIE in the following network environment:
An accesspoint provides access to an unsecured wifi containing nothing but a pptp vpn server. The vpn then allows accessing the internet.
Currently i got managed to connect to the wifi and to properly set up the vpn under the "my work connection" settings. when i manualy connect to the vpn the connection gots established. The problem is that this only works if:
"Programms that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:" is set to "my isp" and
"Programms that automatically connect to a provate should connect using:" is set to "my work network".
this of course lets the vpn collapse when the pie is running, because it is configured to use "my isp" instead of "my work connection".
When both options are set to "My work connection" mannually connecting to the vpn leads to a "cannot connect with current connection settings[...]" error.
any ideas?
Hi
go to connections then advanced, then go to exceptions and add a new url
add
*
and
*.*
then it should route the connections via the VPN and not disconnect it
Regards
works for PIE!
thank you!
(is there also a solution for the messaging (email) application?)
should do emails too
I havent used VPN for a while so might set it up and try it again if i get some time
I have a HTC Touch 3G (Jade) running Windows Mobile 6.1, i have managed to set up the VPN connection with my work server, the phone connects to the server (although it does say the connection is not encrypted), but when i set Activesync going of the phone the server drops the VPN connection
I have read about adding the server address into the exceptions list, but this does not help.
Any assistance would be much appreciated
Thank you
think it could be because if
settings->connections->connections->advanced-selecet network is set
to my home network
that would make the device try and use the network connection it get access to from active-sync and drop the connection it is using to connect to vpn
I would turn of the ability to use the active-sync as network connection
Rudegar said:
think it could be because if
settings->connections->connections->advanced-selecet network is set
to my home network
that would make the device try and use the network connection it get access to from active-sync and drop the connection it is using to connect to vpn
I would turn of the ability to use the active-sync as network connection
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Thanks for the advice Rudegar
settings->connections->connections->advanced is set to;
Programs that automatically connect to internet = Mobile web
Programs that automatically connect to private network = My Work Network
I would try and change the later of the options
and maybe look in pc activesync for the ability to turn of network sharing
Help!!!!, still no joy
Does anyone know if it is because i am trying to connect to the VPN via a 'payasyougo' sim, having reads O2's info they only appear to talk about connections to VPN via 'pay monthly'?
Thanks
Hi!
I have been trying to connect to my to vpn pptp server (witopia.net) for 2 days. I tried every combination that i could think, but there must be something i am doing wrong. I think the mobile is trying to connect to the vpn server through gsm because everytime i try to connect the gsm signal bars disappear for a few moments. How can i make sure that the vpn connection goes through wifi?
I have managed to actually connect to the vpn server, but i cannot access websites like facebook and youtube from the Leo (I live in China and they are blocked). I am able to access blocked services through my iphone and laptop through the same vpn connection.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
PPTP on WM6 is a major problem. Especially if the server (and most do) required MPPE. Its one of the few niggles I have about WM. If you own the server your best setting up the conection using L2TP/IPSEC.
Or if you dont own the VPN server, and have a server laying around the house (as I do) you could set up your server to use the PPTP VPN then set there server as a Proxy, and connect WM6 to the server via proxy...so basically WM6>Proxy>VPN>interwebs
Hi Jagnet, Thank you for your reply.
Unfortunately i am not able to use Ipsec/L2TP in China, only PPTP works fine with blocked sites.
After trying many combinations, there is a step that i havent been able to figure it out.
Once i am in Start > Settings > Connections (tab) > Connections (icon) > Advanced (tab) > Select Networks, How do i select the WIFI connection in "Programs that automatically connect to the internet should connect using" opcion? . On the modem tab i only can choose "celullar line", "Celullar line (GPRS)" or "Hayes Compatible on COM1:", there is nothing about WIFI there, so when i try to connect at the vpn server specified in "Programs that automatically connect to a private network should connect using", the phone seems to be trying to connect via GPRS.
¿Any ideas?
Thanks
joaquinmora said:
Hi!
I have been trying to connect to my to vpn pptp server (witopia.net) for 2 days. I tried every combination that i could think, but there must be something i am doing wrong. I think the mobile is trying to connect to the vpn server through gsm because everytime i try to connect the gsm signal bars disappear for a few moments. How can i make sure that the vpn connection goes through wifi?
I have managed to actually connect to the vpn server, but i cannot access websites like facebook and youtube from the Leo (I live in China and they are blocked). I am able to access blocked services through my iphone and laptop through the same vpn connection.
Any suggestions?
Thanks
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having similar issues with HD2. CMCC as well, in China.
I am getting a proxy IP address if I check on ipchicken.com, etc
but I am not able to open FB.
I am not using the PPTP option, but using their SSL service with
openVPN. but STILL not working..
right now on support chats with witopia.
VPN PPTP is simply broken in WM. It will work, but only with no encryption at all, which beats the purpose.
First of all sorry for bumping this old thread. But I have been looking and it seems kinda close to what I`m doing, oh a little new to vpn.
I have managed to sucessfully connect the HD2 via VPN in connections only when on the lan (outwith I need to contact O2 to get it enabled apparently). I setup a dialup connection in Win 7; HD2 says I`m connected to the VPN.
However heres the thing. Am I right in thinking that folders by default have to be shared. Therefore when using resco I can see network folders anyway, when connected to wifi.
So how would I prove that I can see folders shared to the VPN and not on the LAN as I cant seem to prove whether I`m seeing the folder via LAN and not on the VPN?
Sorry if its confusing but perhaps you get my drift? Or am I missing the point entirely....