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Adding programs in ROM

Does anybody know how to add software in ROM.
I succcesfully added small 1-file programs (and a couple of 2/3 file programs) using mkrom.
I often needed to modify the default.reg file to achieve this...
But how do I install more complex programs like Batterybar/Journalbar and Fonix Voicedial ?
I hope someons has the answer!

its not easy. u have to use the snap utility to find out what changes were made and manually add each entry into default.reg file. also if any files need to be somewhere other than windows directory u have to copy them to ram via the initobj.txt file.
alex

Thanks, that worked....
It took some time though!

kalex said:
Also if any files need to be somewhere other than windows directory u have to copy them to ram via the initobj.txt file.
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Cool! People are figuring out how this works!
It has to be noted that putting files in any other place than Windows means you're making a RAM copy, which ofcourse uses RAM you could use for other things. So it would be better to figure out how to convince the software to run from Windows instead, which, sometimes after a little tinkering, has worked for us in all cases.
If need be, you can also try creating a link to the program in Windows, and copy that instead of the real file.

It has to be noted that putting files in any other place than Windows means you're making a RAM copy, which ofcourse uses RAM you could use for other things. So it would be better to figure out how to convince the software to run from Windows instead, which, sometimes after a little tinkering, has worked for us in all cases.
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that's true. but some apps want to put something else where. for example Pocket Plus has 4 txt files which it modifies during use, so they have to be copied to RAM otherwise it wouldn't be able to modify it. some apps put dlls to \windows\appmgr, so i have to add that. so far i added Pocket Plus 1.2, Resco File explorer 2003, Soft Reset, and Pocket Gamer D9 dialer, as well as i localized it to US specs. the only thing i can't figure out yet is how to add T-mobile USA GPRS configuration to the auto setup.
XDA developer Peter Poelman can you share on how to do this?
thanks
alex

Laundry list of things to add to ROM
I have a laundry list of things to add into the ROM. I'm sure it all won't fit, but I'm very energized about hearing what you guys have been saying.
I have a legal copy of battery/journal bar, fonix voice suite + dial, pocket informant, and All Locations Traffic Counter. Additionally I am most certainly interested in getting T-Mobile US settings setup in the autoconfig.
I'm far from a UNIX guy, but I have Cygwin now installed and I'm working on getting Perl setup. One of the guys in my department helped me build SER1.1 on his Linux box.
I've had the T2Tech guys squeeze 128M inside the phone (64/64) so I'd like to add the driver for it into ROM so I can use it after a hard reset without having to dig out the installer.
If there's any assistance I can lend along the way please let me know.
MAXLW can you shoot me some basic instructions for Fonix and Battery/Journal bar?
Thanks all for the great tool!
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US T-Mobile PPC-PE 128M SER1.1

rdm128,
Are u able to access 128mb of ram after u did the ser1.1? i heard it didn't work with the current drivers by ppctechs.
I doubt Fonix will work in the ROM as there are about 100 or so files that need to be copied as well as i'm not sure which files are being modified by the program and if they are being modified you will need to do a Ram copy before u can use it. all locations i guess u don't need either as t-mobile now offers unlimited GPRS. PI i'm not sure how its going to react to ROM install but u can try it and let me know if it works as i want to add it.
alex

128M w/ SER1.1
The 128 upgrade is split into 64M RAM and 64M "t2t storage card". I am able to access both of them quite easily with the driver installed.
The most impressive part, though it does make sense, is that I have only done soft resets and never a power cycle when installing the SER1.1 and therefore all files are still intact in the t2t storage card. Not bad for volatile RAM!
The only Fonix I'd really like in ROM is Voice Dial. I think I can get PI to work only because of the directory structure it uses. It places lots of files in the windows directory, but then puts all the 'writeable' files in the WebIS folder in my documents (at least as far as I can tell so far).
I'm just starting to play with snapview (since it came on SER1.1) to see what it will take to get this stuff crammed into ROM.
rdm128

Display filename extensions in File Explorer?

Hi there,
I have used Spb Pocket Plus in the past and one feature I really liked was that it tweaked the default File Explorer so that filename extensions are displayed.
I no longer use Pocket Plus but I really want to be able to see filename extensions. I have tried Total Commander as a replacement but it is not a seamless replacement. The same goes for Resco. I would prefer to avoid using additional software to save on space.
I assume that Spb must have simply tweaked the File Explorer application or WM2003SE simply by creating or amending a registry entry. Does anyone know how they do it? I'd really like to get this functionality back without having the overhead of Pocket Plus on my device.

You could use resco file explorer it will allow you to show the files extensions..

You could use resco file explorer it will allow you to show the files extensions..

Look, he already said:
PeterW said:
I no longer use Pocket Plus but I really want to be able to see filename extensions. I have tried Total Commander as a replacement but it is not a seamless replacement. The same goes for Resco.
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Can't you read? He specifically doesn't want to use Resco because again, it doesn't integrate with the File Explorer in the way that SPB Pocket Plus does.
I'll have a quick dig around in the registry for you, don't hold your breath as I'm not 100% sure what I'm looking for, but I'll have a look anyway, I might come across it (I kinda half-know what to look for, I'll definitely know what it is when I come across it )

christopherwoods said:
Can't you read? He specifically doesn't want to use Resco because again, it doesn't integrate with the File Explorer in the way that SPB Pocket Plus does.
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:lol:
christopherwoods said:
I'll have a quick dig around in the registry for you, don't hold your breath as I'm not 100% sure what I'm looking for, but I'll have a look anyway, I might come across it (I kinda half-know what to look for, I'll definitely know what it is when I come across it )
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Thanks Chris!

Not had much luck so far, it must be a shell extension which P+ adds... I'll keep on doing some research, as I'd quite like it too.

PeterW said:
The same goes for Resco. I would prefer to avoid using additional software to save on space.
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Hi Peterw,
I do understand your point in space saving. Resco file-explorer combined with registry & ftp add-ons takes around 1Mb to install, but you can easily install it in the storage folder. Guess you know already that resco gives you much more than file-extensions only. Personally I like it, I know it's a matter of taste & maybe BIG Storage.
If I happen to stumble around a registry key to solve it, I'll let you know.
regards, M

Password protection of files .....

Hi All,
What is the best way to password protect (and even encrypt) some of your files (in particular excel and word files) on the XDA EXEC ?
It looks like Windows Mobile 5 doesn't support this, so I assume I will have to get a third party software for this ? Which one do you recommend that does just this ? any Freeware ?
Thanks.

This one is worth resurrecting anytime:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41464&highlight=penny+arcade
V

I was gonna say that my WM5 has encryption option in the built in File Explorer - tap and hold the file. I guess though it appears because Resco Explorer is installed.
It costs, but it's good
http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/explorer/default.asp
Give it a try - that's free !

Rick - how do you unencypt those files? Do you have to access them through Resco, or just access them normally eg in Pocketword, and it asks for a password? That'd be cool...
V

Rick - how do you unencypt those files? Do you have to access them through Resco, or just access them normally eg in Pocketword, and it asks for a password? That'd be cool...
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Can't believe this is happening - I'm gonna give Vijay some information !!!
Anyway - after a bit of testing, the encrypted file can only be seen and decrypted in File Explorer or Resco File Explorer. It isn't recognised (and doen't appear) in PWord. Phew !

Thank you. I don't use too many apps that aren't mine really, so I'm grateful for the info!
Just my thought was, how'z about someone writes a custom device driver to interact with encrypted files to permit transparent encryption/decryption. Otherwise, the resco plugin is just equivalent to zipping (with "store" I guess, given WinCE's built in compression) and password protecting? Obtrusive but effective I suppose.
Another Offtopic thought I had. Anyone interested in doing a root kit 'sploit for WinCE? I was doing some R&D, but couldn't find any "honest" use for it, other then a la Sony, root hiding files from the OS. But this could be useful...
V

Cab-O-Matic - Free online .cab maker

Hey guys,
Thought I'd throw up a post about a tool i've developed to make .cabs online. It's called Cab-O-Matic and basically all you do is .zip up the files you want cabbed, upload them and generate your .cab!
In the interests of privacy (and storage space!), no files are stored, the .cabs are generated "on-the-fly" and the files used to make them are removed once the .cab is generated.
I'll also be adding support for installing multiple files to multiple locations and might even have a section that allows you to include popular reg tweaks (if you have a favourite, please post it!).
The tool is currently in Beta.
Please try it out and let me know what you think
http://nedge2k.com/cab-o-matic
Cheers!
UPDATE: Finally got round to fixing this, the only issue now is with binary registry settings - I'm not entirely sure how to write them. I'll look into fixing it if the demand is there.

nice
Great,Iv'e been lookin for something like this for a long time.Wanted it as a program on my device but this will do.Anyway I can put this on my webserver and also store created cabs with it on there as well?
Thanks,will let you know of any bugs.
*Feature Request-Option to upload oem packages and convert to cabs.

D1ab70 said:
I can put this on my webserver and also store created cabs with it on there as well?
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Not quite, I won't be releasing the source for this but I may introduce a developer API at a later date.
As for converting OEM packages to .cab, sounds like a great idea! It won't be something I'll look into until I'm happy everything is working as it should though

combine several CABs
Hi there,
The most important thing I need from such a software is to combine several CABs so that they will install by just installing the one made from your site -- is it possible?
But anyway, you're the pioneer to build up the first online cab maker, no doubt in that
cheers,
arefin

Thanks
Yeah I've been thinking about that. Technically it's possible by including a setup.dll.
The way i see it, you upload a .zip of .cabs, Cab-O-Matic detects what you're trying to do and includes a setup.dll, the resultant .cab then puts the packaged .cabs into a temp folder and the setup.dll scans that folder and installs each .cab one by one
Only problem is, iirc, setup.dll's need to be created in C - which I dont write in. I know people that do though, so watch this space!

you might want to change the name of your program...there is a Cabomatic, cost $20 at this website
http://www.phelios.net/cabomatic.html

nedge2k said:
Hey guys,
Thought I'd throw up a post about a tool i've developed to make .cabs online. It's called Cab-O-Matic and basically all you do is .zip up the files you want cabbed, upload them and generate your .cab!
In the interests of privacy (and storage space!), no files are stored, the .cabs are generated "on-the-fly" and the files used to make them are removed once the .cab is generated.
The only limitations to it at the moment are that I haven't yet added support for BINARY and MULTI STRING data types for registry settings. Nor have I gotten round to adding support for program menu shortcuts...but I will soon!
I'll also be adding support for installing multiple files to multiple locations and might even have a section that allows you to include popular reg tweaks (if you have a favourite, please post it!).
The tool is currently in Beta and from what I've seen so far, the only proplem it seems to have is with large uploads (more than 10mb) but that's easily fixed.
Please try it out and let me know what you think
http://nedge2k.com/cab-o-matic
Cheers!
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dude this is awesome, great work!!

robertg9 said:
you might want to change the name of your program...there is a Cabomatic, cost $20 at this website
http://www.phelios.net/cabomatic.html
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Yeah I realised that shortly after I made my Cab-O-Matic public. However, as far as im aware, the name is not copyrighted or trademarked and both products are quite different. Mine is online, free, written from scratch and actually creates the .cabs. Theirs is offline, costs and is basically just a frontend for Microsoft's cabwiz.exe so...

Support for program menu shortcuts to .exe files as been added.
EDIT: ..and BINARY/MSTRING datatypes for registry settings.

Guys,
If you experience any problems, or recommend this tool to people who then experience problems, please ensure that you/they post the issue in this thread...so I can fix it!!
I created this tool for the community, I have no real need for it myself so I'm relying on feedback to make sure it works as it should!

Bump - OP updated.

What a pity - you cannot directly use standard reg files :-(

Explorer=)

I HAVE tested a nice tool . you can get in Windows store :
search for:
Pocket File Manager
it is a real file Manager.... some less fuctions are missing but it is very very nice.. and all they have told me it is impossible.... it is possible how you can see it
it works fine and great .... it can follow: send every file by Bluetooth... you can open every file it is legal docx, rar, zip txt . jpeg, mp3 , mp4 ... realy legal ... it opens what is on the device! !!! and you see a great file structure and you can use skydrive........ everyone who says it is impossible im think that they doesn't try whats possible ...
I have find somtehing interessting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2290261
maybeee it should us help to get a Explorer to wp8

Have you looked at the description? It is limited in exactlly the same way as described around here all the time.
Limitation (Please read it!):
Windows phone has some limitations which prevent third party applications from accessing parts of files system. You cannot access video files, music files, Document folder. So, until Microsoft open it, please do not ask us to implement this feature. It is impossible right now.
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It can access SkyDrive, FTP servers and it's own private storage. You CAN NOT access the phones Documents Folder and other Folders. You can launch an Office Document and edit it but it will then be saved to the Office Hub and the Explorer Application will still retain the old version prior to editing.
So while this does look like it works around it a file explorer in the way that people are demanding is still not possible.

StevieBallz said:
Have you looked at the description? It is limited in exactlly the same way as described around here all the time.
It can access SkyDrive, FTP servers and it's own private storage. You CAN NOT access the phones Documents Folder and other Folders. You can launch an Office Document and edit it but it will then be saved to the Office Hub and the Explorer Application will still retain the old version prior to editing.
So while this does look like it works around it a file explorer in the way that people are demanding is still not possible.
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i have tested the tool ! and it works .... it reads out some lokal files and the complete Photo and Video library!! it is a tool for lokal the link in the link it is development of it that will be release in future
but that what im testing it works everything what im saying.. and it is a file Explorer for local and for skydrive!!!! as i tested some other tool too ... it is a pdf Reader... not the Microsoft one! another one ... it can be read out the pdf files of sdcard and on local phone ... .. so im think it is possible to do a great file Explorer but we have to try it..

http://www.1800pocketpc.com/file-explorer/

Oh boy
I wish it were trued, but it aint.
Second, what Stevie said.

presumption
im think we can use one trick ... srry im not a guy who can much develop
but the idea is maybee great?
if i can Open a file of the Folder of the pocket Explorer so maybee Folder Pocket Explorer\docs\Alice in wonderland.docx in word mobile 365 /15 opend it ... but the Office hub can't find the file if im opened...... but in the functionality it opend................ im think the "lock" isn't realy a lock....... im think it is something like a key in the Windows regestry of wp8 ...that disable the Show of other Folders... but every tool can be Access all the Folders that are on the phone...... if it was a real access lock it isn't be possible to open a docx file in word from a Folder outside it is registered in Office hub ... in the tool it is added the photo hub ...
im think a clever developer shouldbe can solve the Problem without to Bypass the "lock" of MS ... Note ... In Real Windows 8 it has security informations .... but if the locked for some users you can't see the files and you can't opend it.... but im think in wp 8 there isn't this the Problem ... the Problem is it disabled in the regestry to Show something that can be accsess all the Tools

No the developers can't bypass this, as far as I am aware. It isn't just the registry key (you may be right about that one), but the runtime itself does not allow these kind of things. I have been looking for way to break the file associations, and there seems to be none, other than jailbreaking and hacking into system settings.

Yep tested this one today on my new Lumia 520 and it even does not show the music folder -_- ... Stupid limitation from MS.