Before my TyTN, I was using Symbian (S60). On S60, I knew a few MSN clients that could connect to the internet even though I used a proxy for GPRS.
Oddly enough, Windows Live Messenger could connect through the proxy with Symbian. On WM5/6, it cannot.
I tried Agile Messenger & IM+ also, but neither could do it.
I know a few java based MSN clients can work, but I'd really like to use a pocketPC version of MSN which can connect through my GPRS Proxy.
Any big names come up to your head that I could try?
ive been looking for one of these for ages, ive searched high and low and never found one. i want it for my work proxy. the messenger ive had to settle for is the internet one (http://www.ebuddy.com) which also support mobiles as well as pc.
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I've searched through the forums but can't find anyone with a similar issue so here goes...
I want to use my bluetooth connection to ActiveSync and use the pass through to the internet to use MSN Messenger but every time I try the XDA II wants to connect via GPRS.
I can access the internet through the pass through so I know it works I just can't use the pass through to get MSN working.
I've also tried using the USB link but again the XDA II wants to connect via GPRS, this leads me to believe that either it isn't impossible or there is a setting somewhere that I need to alter (but can't find) :?
Can anyone help?
Hello,
I can't tell you why yours isn't working, but I can assure you it CAN be done - Mine works, and I haven't had to change anything.
I'm using a proxy server, not that this should matter. Theoretically, if you can browse the net from the XDA via ActiveSync (USB or Bluetooth, either really), then Messenger should connect too.
Are you able to connect using messenger on the PC (not the XDA through the PC)? I'd start by confirming that you can run Messenger from the PC on your network, in case there's a firewall on your network which is blocking the Messenger Ports.
This article here details what ports must be available from behind a firewall.
http://asia.cnet.com/itmanager/tech/0,39006407,39092525-2,00.htm
Hope that helps.
Thanks for your reply.
I can happily run MSN Messenger on the PC without any problems (it is not usually connected to an LAN.
I did think it might be something to do with my software firewall. I have both the standard windows one (with XP Pro) running and Norton Personal Firewall 2003. So I tried stopping Norton and I still couldn't get Messengar to work on the XDA II, admitedly I forgot to stop the windows firewall as well, although I doubt that's the issue having read the first page of the link you posted, it appears that the standard IM messages will be unlikely to be stopped by a firewall as it just "rides on the TCP connection" and is infact using HTTP.
This leads me more to think that there is a setting somewhere either XDA II side or PC Activesync side (v 3.7 btw) that's causing the problem. Either that or the mobile MSN Messenger uses a different type of comms from the desktop version and uses a different port number, most unlikely?.
Any one any clues? I am starting to get very confused :?
P.S. - I've also tried a trial copy of IM+ to see if this would fix the problem but unfortunately I still can't use the MSN Messenger serivces through Activesync Pass Through.
Pocket MSN (MSN Messanger and Hotmail) only works with a direct connection the internet.
Does anybody know how to tweak it such as way (via registry setting etc) so that it can connect via the proxied internet connection.
The regular desktop MSN Messanger has the option in the app setting to allow it to work via a HTTP proxy server.
The reason I'm asking for this is that, some of us here in this forum, use the cheap GPRS service here in the US that only connects us to the internet via a HTTP proxy. We have web browsing and pop3 working, but not the MSN messanger and hotmail.
Thanks in advance for anybody that will provide some clue.
lie_ui said:
Pocket MSN (MSN Messanger and Hotmail) only works with a direct connection the internet.
Does anybody know how to tweak it such as way (via registry setting etc) so that it can connect via the proxied internet connection.
The regular desktop MSN Messanger has the option in the app setting to allow it to work via a HTTP proxy server.
The reason I'm asking for this is that, some of us here in this forum, use the cheap GPRS service here in the US that only connects us to the internet via a HTTP proxy. We have web browsing and pop3 working, but not the MSN messanger and hotmail.
Thanks in advance for anybody that will provide some clue.
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You must use a SOCKS-capable proxy. That is, not just a simple HTTP proxy. Also see http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?s=SOCKS+messenger&sentence=AND - in there, I've also elaborated on this problem.
I understand this. However, the data service we use (T-Mobile USA t-zones) does not support SOCKS. We only have HTTP proxy and WAP proxy support.
Using the same data service from my laptop (with my PPC as the wireless modem), I could run MSN Messanger from my laptop (by using the HTTP proxy).
The Pocket MSN however, does not work. I would believe there is some way to tweak it to recognize the HTTP proxy as well.
the remote desktop client on my vario ii connects to my work desktop perfectly using our office vpn but it is rubbish! the screen doesn't scale well at all or provide any kind of zoom out function.
I have a vnc client which performs much better but it won't connect over the vpn it only works when connected directly to the office network.
forwarding ports is out of the question. so my question is this.
is there a vnc client for pocket pc which will work over vpn or is there a way to make the remote desktop client less rubbish
also are there any apps out there that will let me browse my work network over the vpn. resco doesn't seem to be able to do it even the ftp client won't work.
am I missing something about vpn connections as it seems the only two apps that work over one are activesync and the remote desktop client.
Did you tried to acces domain controler throught the VPN? If yes it is normal that it doesn't work; Domain controler require security enhancement in auth that pocket devices cannot deliver yet. The only way I know is to reduce the security enhancement by using the GPO on the concerned servers; but this is far of being a clean fix.
Just trying to use connect to a vnc server on my workstation. btw our domain controller is the exchange server and active sync works fine
Active sync & exchange do not use the integrate authentification & kerberos; it uses a plain text auth (crypted with the SSL certs), that's why it works. Even if you are on the LAN you will not be able to access your domain's controller shares because of security enhancement.
This is far from solving your issue; but I just wanted to make it clear. Concerning your issue I can't help you at the moment, I still didnt tried the VPN & advanced networking.
btw, good luck
I have set up a vpn on my home computer, no domain, and can't access shares or a vnc server on that either.
Hi Stemill, I seen your other post about the vpn issues with Resco also, I have heard in the past about vpn issues using the [email protected], are you using [email protected] or [email protected]?
I use the terminal/remote client on a daily basis, and it does blow, vj on the board here has made an app that allows fullscreen with the terminal client, and theres a Mocha remote desktop client that supports scaling but no fullscreen, both of which have their own quirks. The scaling makes the text impossible to read when its even at 25%
I have been working on connecting to the remote desktop on mac with vnc, and I've gotten as far as an error on authentification, so I know its possible outside of a home network, but I don't have a clue about buisness situations..exchange or vpn's.
I not even 100% positive about the wap issue, I just seem to remember reading something about it in the past.
Sorry I wasn't of much help, also I kind of have a question for you, I see you mention activesync, you're not activesyncing over an internet connection are you?, I'm working on installing apps that I don't have a .cab for over an internet connection, but the best route I had figured out was to install to a ftp share and then grab the .cab from there with Resco.
Best of luck to you.
Hi there.
I'm on t-mob in the uk. They have a 3g network with full internet access so i'm not using wap at all.
Thanks for the tips about the remote client tweaks. Do you have a link?
I'm using activesync to connect to my works exchange server to sync email and calendar. Pretty sure its not possible to sync over the air to a pc without using exchange. You certainly won't be able to grab remote files via activesync.
If we could figure out how to get apps to work over vpn you could set one up on your pc and (theoretically at least) browse its contents using resco without having to bother with ftp.
If it's not possible to get stuff working over the vpn then you've probably found the best solution already. use ftp or setup a webserver on your pc and host the cab files on that. pocket ie seems to let you install cab files directly from a link.
btw which vnc client are you using on your phone?
Hi, I forget a lot of the time that people here have so many different carriers, sorry.
Here's the link to vj's terminal addon app
http://www.vijay555.com/?Releases:VJFullscreenTSC
And here's the link to the Mocha remote client app
http://www.mochasoft.dk/rd.htm
I used .Net vnc when I was able to get the authentification error
http://www.freewareppc.com/docs/netvncviewer.shtml
I think my problem on the authentification was with the apple remote desktop itself, I read about somethin in the authentification being non standard and sometimes the free vnc viewers don't work..but that was also pc to pc related, the same makers of the Mocha remote desktop also make a vnc client..that was gonna be my next try, I just haven't gotten there yet.
I inistally set up my pc to be able to remote to it from my phone and access aol chatrooms..well mainly one I have hung out in for years, then realized if I set up a server, I could install apps that I couldn't find in .cab form over the net with it, I used to have windows server 2003 set up with IIS(webserver) and the streaming media services, I'm wondering now if the windows streaming media really works with the pocket windows media, and if I could even use it with my gprs/edge connection, I'm still waiting on 3G, suprisingly the remote desktop isn't too bad on gprs/edge.
I'm currently waiting to get a new hard drive before I can really get to work, I'm testing on an old messed up xp install, and half the time I can't even access "my computer" or open folders without it crashin explorer.
Hi. I'm looking into buying the new Trinity (p3600i) in Australia here. My question is, can I hook the phone up to my wifi network, then use Skype and MSN on the wifi network, and not have to use the internet from the phone service provider? Those would cost too much to download even just my mails.
yes that is the purpos of wifi
much like people do with laptop and desktops with wifi
yep, also to download any pop3 mails via the wifi (e.g. Gmail)
You can even control your desktop computer's media using your phone... (I'm seriously so in love with that)
How about installing VNC or some way to control my desktop from the Trinity?
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How about installing VNC or some way to control my desktop from the Trinity?
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Read what's been posted above.
yes one can remote ones pc using
1 ms therminal services
2 a vnc client on the pda
for more info google have both therminal services setup guides
and plenty of free vnc clients for windows mobile
Simpel question: How can I connect with two GPRS connections?
- 1st Internet -> WAP Profile
- 2nd MSN -> Internet Profile
This because I have no limit on the WAP profile, and I can watch internet sites with it, but the ports are closed. Internet profile has 25mb, that's enough for MSN.
With the program slick I could get managed to open 2 GPRS connections, but the program won't work with my MSN account. MSN live works fine with the internet profile, but how can I manage that he always use that profile and Internet Explorer use the WAP profile?
I have a HTC P3470 with WM6
A little kick =)
Or searching for a MSN program that supports HTTP Binding
Kicking a little =)
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A little kick =)
Or searching for a MSN program that supports HTTP Binding
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This is your lucky day I think.
I was about to suggest you to use Talkonaut j2me client which supports Jabber HTTP Binding and hence, msn, aim and other protocols, but looking for their download address I noticed they've released a NATIVE version for WM just today.
Going to test right after posting this, enjoy!
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY, gonna test it right away
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The j2me can connect.. the native version can't