Hey guys.
I am having huge problems with my spv m700. Nothing will install on it (I've just loaded tom tom onto the sd card and it just does the installation little plingy noise and then nothing).
It won't even recognise there being a sim card in the slot when I put my dutch simcard in it. I have repeatedly auto and manually used the unlock program available here somewhere to absolutely no avail.
I'm getting to the end of my tether with the thing and am considering keeping my spv m2000 as that hasn't been any hassle at all since I've had that.
Is it my simcard is somehow not the correct standard for the M700? works fine in my m2000. And why would the phone not install tom tom?
i have not had any problems with my m700, looks like you have problem with your phone (that is what i think), try to exchange it, explain what is wrong to the orange.
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Did you buy it from Orange? If so, they should have supplied a new SIM card.
Your old M2000 SIM probably won't work in the M700, because the M700 is a 3G phone, and needs a USIM card, which has extra circuitry on it. A USIM will work fine on your old phone, so you could just ask Orange for a replacement SIM card.
Your SD card issues are something different- have you tried a different SD card in the M700, or the existing SD card in a PC card reader? This may narrow things down a bit.
OK I am thinking the problem must lie with the sim card itself. No I didn't purchase the phone from orange. I have an orange payg simcard and that registers no problems on orange NL. The UK based O2 card I have is recognised as a simcard but won't register on a network in holland. My mates new telefort simcard also won't register on a network but a 10 year old dutch sim card from my other mate works perfectly. Each time I swapped out sims I re-checked mine only to still find it completely unrecognised.
Update on Tom Tom. The version I have been trying to instal is tom tom 5 which this phone it appears doesn't like. The tom tom 5 navigator will not go past the maze page at initial instal. If I instal tom tom 5 mobile that works but it won't accept screen inputs and out of all the phone keys only 2 work so its un-navigable. I am waiting for delivery of a 4gb mini sd card now as my 512kb one isn't big enough for even the simplest of tom tom 6 installations.
I sold my spv m2000 today and maybe think I will regret that move. Especially as the guy thats bought it thinks he can install windows mobile 5 on it which was my main reason for moving phones along with thinking that the tom tom software I have would work.
TomTom Navigator 5 will work on the P3600, but as with all WM5/WM6 installations, is a real pain to acheive. There are some tutorials on our website (see sig)
TomTom Mobile is for Smartphones, so won't work on PPC devices.
SIM cards: you need to get a USIM update from Orange (unless of course the M700 has been blocked for some reason?). You should also SIM unlock your M700, if it hasn't been already- all SPV Orange models are SIM locked to the Orange network.
dangerous_brain said:
I sold my spv m2000 today and maybe think I will regret that move. Especially as the guy thats bought it thinks he can install windows mobile 5 on it which was my main reason for moving phones along with thinking that the tom tom software I have would work.
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Once your M700 works fine you will praise the day that you bought it. I've got it for almost a year now and it is the best PDA ever. I've now got it running on mun_RUs WM6 and it keeps getting better and better. HTC will have to come up with a pretty good replacement before I switch to another one.
Maarten_0031 said:
Once your M700 works fine you will praise the day that you bought it. I've got it for almost a year now and it is the best PDA ever. I've now got it running on mun_RUs WM6 and it keeps getting better and better. HTC will have to come up with a pretty good replacement before I switch to another one.
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All of the above!
NeilM said:
TomTom Navigator 5 will work on the P3600, but as with all WM5/WM6 installations, is a real pain to acheive. There are some tutorials on our website (see sig)
TomTom Mobile is for Smartphones, so won't work on PPC devices.
SIM cards: you need to get a USIM update from Orange (unless of course the M700 has been blocked for some reason?). You should also SIM unlock your M700, if it hasn't been already- all SPV Orange models are SIM locked to the Orange network.
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Yeah I ran the unlock program on the phone. It says its unlocked but I don't think it is. I managed to get tom tom 5 to install by going into the 2577 folder and activating the files in there one by one and now tom tom works for me.
I have since returned to the UK. The UK orange simcard that would connect to orange NL will now not connect to orange UK. My O2 simcard will not connect to any network either. I will re-download the unlock file and re-unzip it in case I have a problem there and then re-use it. I am following the tutorial on the thread is there anything missing from the instructions? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957 I must be doing something wrong as loads of other people are getting good results with this program. How do I know if my simcard is a USIM?
I think the USIM issues is a red herring- unless you have a VERY old SIM then it should work with the handset- this is according to Vodafone.
This may sound really stupid, but are you sure you put the SIM in the right way round?
The first time I tried my Voda SIM with my unlocked Orange M700 it said "No SIM". I think I may have had it upside down....as later it just started working OK.
Yeah already thought of that. Thing is the lebara network card that isn't even recognised as being in the phone looks physically different to the other sims that are recognised. The only card that will log onto a network is the UK orange one which is now logging on and working(I had a netwrok setting wrong). The O2 sim keeps coming up with denied,searching. In manual network selection it also denies service and comes up with no service.
In short there are a couple of things I am unsure of. I've run it in manual as well.
1. Transfer SSPL/SSPL-TRIN.exe to your phone and run it
done and understood
2. Tri-color screen will appear
Yep
3. Disable activesync (file -> connection settings -> uncheck "allow USB connections")
This I don't understand and when I disable activesync my phone no longer communicates with the pc
4. Connect your phone to your computer using the USB lead.
When I do this with activesync disabled nothing happens so I have to reinstate activesync to continue
5. Run RUU/ROMUpgradeUtility.exe
done this
6. Follow the flashing process (Check the "I understand..." and "I completed..." boxes and update!)
and this
7. Allow your phone to reboot.
See now my phone doesn't reboot itself here I physically have to either press the power button or push the little button on the bottom
8. Transfer TRIN_Unlock_v1.exe program to your phone and run it
yeah can do this easy
9. Click the Unlock Button, select unlock option. Select if you want SIM/CID unlock.
and this
10. Click "Unlock!" and wait until process finishes.
yeah of course
11. When done, turn off your phone for 10 seconds and reboot after that.
OK maybe I don't have this reboot off to pat but I turn it off and then press that little button on the bottom with the stylus
Now I have tried this with an orange card in, with an O2 card in, with no card in and the result is always the same No joy. I am so clearly getting something wrong and its getting very frustrating.
Can I ask where you got you phone from? Was it a new purchase from a supplier, or from Ebay etc?
The fact that a UK SIM works in NL, but nothing seems to work in UK, shows that the Radio does actually work, but not in all locations.
This could suggest that the phones IMEI number is being blocked for some reason- usually if the phone has been reported lost or stolen. Or the fact that the UK Orange SIM now seems to work may imply that the phone CID /SIM unlock didn't take properly.
It may be worth trying another unlocking tool. If you pop over to Modaco, their Trinity forum has a good unlocker which worked on my Orange M700
Yeah it was an ebay phone. Its being a right pain. I have tried completely unlocking the security using this guide http://wiki.spv-developers.com/HTC_Application_Unlock_Guide
Its not unlocking. I cannot edit the registry from a pc based application and it won't let me instal a reg edit program. I need to find an older than feb 06 rom file and try again. I am begining to think this phone is a dodgy one. How do I find out if its registered stolen?
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Yeah it was an ebay phone. Its being a right pain. I have tried completely unlocking the security using this guide http://wiki.spv-developers.com/HTC_Application_Unlock_Guide
How do I find out if its registered stolen?
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To find out about the phone's status, call Orange Customer Services (07973 123 150) and get them to check the IMEI number (Settings/Device Information/Identity Tab)
For the Super CID, you could try This app on Modaco. It seems pretty reliable. Once flashed, you can them apply any ROM image update.
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OK I am thinking the problem must lie with the sim card itself. No I didn't purchase the phone from orange. I have an orange payg simcard and that registers no problems on orange NL. The UK based O2 card I have is recognised as a simcard but won't register on a network in holland. My mates new telefort simcard also won't register on a network but a 10 year old dutch sim card from my other mate works perfectly. Each time I swapped out sims I re-checked mine only to still find it completely unrecognised.
Update on Tom Tom. The version I have been trying to instal is tom tom 5 which this phone it appears doesn't like. The tom tom 5 navigator will not go past the maze page at initial instal. If I instal tom tom 5 mobile that works but it won't accept screen inputs and out of all the phone keys only 2 work so its un-navigable. I am waiting for delivery of a 4gb mini sd card now as my 512kb one isn't big enough for even the simplest of tom tom 6 installations.
I sold my spv m2000 today and maybe think I will regret that move. Especially as the guy thats bought it thinks he can install windows mobile 5 on it which was my main reason for moving phones along with thinking that the tom tom software I have would work.
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Hi,
My quick penneth's worth:
I've had M2000 - pile of junk (real technical problems) compared with M5000 - great 'phone, great functionality - absolutely no technical problems.
M700 replicates the M5000 functionality, except with built-in GPS!
Absolutely the best 'phone ever, glad to agree to 18 month contract (as opposed to my usual rule of never agreeing to more than 12 months).
Everything about the M700 shouts out that it really has been thought about before production - right down to clear plastic covered paint as opposed to painted plastic.
Not the smallest of 'phones, but I believe that this is about as optimum as you will get size-wise if you want a screen to be useful for WM5/6.
You will not regret the move from M2000 - trust me.
ATB
Darrylles
Update. I got a new orange simcard put that in it and after the texts that orange sent it now also works with a uk vodafone simcard. It still doesn't even recognise either of my lebara cards as a simcard so I think there is a problem with that type of sim. I'll try another Dutch card in it when I get back there and see if that works.
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Yeah already thought of that. Thing is the lebara network card that isn't even recognised as being in the phone looks physically different to the other sims that are recognised. The only card that will log onto a network is the UK orange one which is now logging on and working(I had a netwrok setting wrong). The O2 sim keeps coming up with denied,searching. In manual network selection it also denies service and comes up with no service.
In short there are a couple of things I am unsure of. I've run it in manual as well.
1. Transfer SSPL/SSPL-TRIN.exe to your phone and run it
done and understood
2. Tri-color screen will appear
Yep
3. Disable activesync (file -> connection settings -> uncheck "allow USB connections")
This I don't understand and when I disable activesync my phone no longer communicates with the pc
4. Connect your phone to your computer using the USB lead.
When I do this with activesync disabled nothing happens so I have to reinstate activesync to continue
5. Run RUU/ROMUpgradeUtility.exe
done this
6. Follow the flashing process (Check the "I understand..." and "I completed..." boxes and update!)
and this
7. Allow your phone to reboot.
See now my phone doesn't reboot itself here I physically have to either press the power button or push the little button on the bottom
8. Transfer TRIN_Unlock_v1.exe program to your phone and run it
yeah can do this easy
9. Click the Unlock Button, select unlock option. Select if you want SIM/CID unlock.
and this
10. Click "Unlock!" and wait until process finishes.
yeah of course
11. When done, turn off your phone for 10 seconds and reboot after that.
OK maybe I don't have this reboot off to pat but I turn it off and then press that little button on the bottom with the stylus
Now I have tried this with an orange card in, with an O2 card in, with no card in and the result is always the same No joy. I am so clearly getting something wrong and its getting very frustrating.
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2. Tri-color screen will appear when at this screen unplug usb then plug back in, windows should detect usb device (htc usb sync) as far as i can tell windows needs this driver installing to communicate outside of activesync!
this maybe for Vista only? i dont know? but worth a try!
if i am wrong someone please correct me
I had a similar problem. After I installed a peice of SPB software to memory card - the phone side opf the PDA couldnt lock on to the network. It wouldn't work with any other SIM either!!
Orangre replaced the SIM just in case. However I ended up doing a hard reset.
I think the problem is the way that the M700 handles large memory cards. theres plenty of threads on that one!!
Once, after an install of TomTom - all my other folders were wiped on the card.
I'm now using SPB Backup and am making a copy of my memory card too.
I got it working in the end with persistence. I got a second phone I was so impressed with it. I then proceeded to fall off my bike and smash the first phone up. Broke the screen. When repairing it I managed to break the screens ribbon retaining clip and socket and then fried a power capacitor or something fitting the battery backwards so unless I can find a new main board I am up the creek with that phone.
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Hi there,
Some time ago I purchased a KING OF DOUBLE CARD for my MDA Compact. It seems however that this card is not functioning in my PPC.
I am using a MDA Compact with the original T-Mobile ROM. I only partly installed the cabs because I wanted to get rid of the ugly T-mobile colours.
Could someone please provide me with some help?:
1st: does anyone make use of the KING OF DOUBLE CARD
2nd: What Rom do you have
3rd: Do I have to install something in addition?
etc etc.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Best regards
Wilfried
dont know any answers, but I do have a question...how did you make it fit?
I thought it didnt fit in the HTC Magician....so I bought another and carved up my SIMs
works fine though, using Wivit SIm Status Switcher with it to switch SIMs..
you could try it, its a great app
which model did you buy? what do you mean by "carved up my SIMS"?
He probably means a ghost sim, where you cut the chips out of two sim cards and out them into the ghost sim which is normal sim size.
Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards
Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards
Hi there,
It is a model where you don't have to cut your sims.
Yes you are right: it doesn't fit that easy however with some pressure on the back of the phone it fits.
The problem however is that my phone doesn't recognize the damn card.
I am cosidering to throw it away and take a second phone with me for the other SIM. Again waste of money. hmmmmm
Best regards
Double SIM work fine on my XDA mini
Hello all,
Just want to share some info, I use Almighty Bicard on my XDA mini, and it's working fine on it, just turn on your flight mode, then turn off your flight mode than you will get your second SIM.
Or you can use SIM master or SIM MAX, it can handled 8/12 SIM no. on 1 SIM card, but some time you have problem to scan your original SIM card.
Thanks, Vireman
Can you point me to the specific dual sim you use??
I bought the ghost sim and couldn't get it to work, I tried on 4 old sim cards and decided not to cut up my work sim and personal sim.
I have been looking for the other typoes which take the full sim cards.
On another note it may not work because you will need to get the T-Mobile phone unlocked to work with another companies SIM.
My work sim is o2 and would only work after the MDA was unlocked.
You can phone T-Mobile ans they will send you the code to do this for £15.
Hallo ishgrnod,
I use Almighty Bicard, You need to cut your SIM chip and put it together on Almighty Bicard. It work like a switcher, If you restart your phone it will switch to another SIM.
Mostly in my country there no phone lock from the operator, I think your problem come from this side.
Thx. Vireman
Isn't there a universal phone unlocker already on the forums?
I use this cut up dual sim in the UK:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6415916094&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
from this user:
http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=slam1416&iid=6415916094&frm=284
Works fine. Just have a steady hand when you cut, measure twice, cut once
I use an O2 contract and orange PAYG. Some reports say O2 contract doesn't work. Mine does, no problems.
V
I bought a King Of Double Card for my MDA Compact. I cannot get it to fit at all.
I don't really want to chop up my SIM cards either :?
OK, UPDATE:
I got it to fit but the phone will not recognize the cards. I'm using WiViT SIM Status Switcher.
Can anyone suggest recommend a different tool ?
I'm on
ROM Version : 1.12.00 WWE
Radio : 1.12.10
ExtROM : 1.12.131 WWE
WiViT isn't likely to be the problem - it just reads the operator from your network, and the sim phone number stored in your Sim; you may not have one stored in there (I bloody didn't and thought my EVC programming was at fault). See WiViT's faq, or basically open up Sim Manager on your phone.
But, ignore wivit, just ensure you can make a telephone call with either sim. Then, switch over with STK or flight mode off/on and see if you can make a call with the other Sim. If that works, then your problem is with WiViT. If it doesn't your problem is with the sims. See my other posts on these cut up sims - basically, i think Magician doesn't put enough pressure on the back of the "mini sims", and you need to stick some paper down the back of the metal sleave.
V
PS See the thread on Magician today screens to see my Wivit type software...
Hey V, thanks for the advice...
My problem was down to the single SIM end of the Dual SIM not making contact with the connectors in the phone. I have the King Of Double Card Type, as shown in my crude mockup below. ( I dont dare take mine out to take a picture since it took me all evening to get it in right. So please excuse the picture.)
WiViT is working perfectly now, i made sure my own numbers were stored correctly as you suggested, and all is well.
The only problem is, the back of my MDAc is slightly out...but i can live with that i guess (until the MDA Pro (HTC Universal) is released)
8)
Hi,
I just bought an MDA Pro direct from T-Mobile's website and it was delivered today. Unfortunately, while the PDA side of things works perfectly, it won't connect to T-Mobile at all.
On the 'T-Mobile' start up screen it displays the text 'No GSM' above what I think must be version information.
It reports 'no service' in the phone status bubble, and SIM Manager says: "Only emergency service calls can be made without a PIN" When I enter the PIN I was given, nothing happens. I think it goes into 'change PIN mode' because then I can put two more 4-digit numbers in (it doesn't matter which!) and then it says "Unknown PIN Status. Unknown PIN Error"
Unfortunately it isn't just a SIM problem as the SIM works in my O2 P800.
I've spoken with T-Mobile and they want to swap the handset, which would be fine if they had any in stock! I'm wondering if anyone here had any advice on ways I could try fixing this short of waiting for them to get in touch and tell me they have another handset I can try.
Any suggestions would be much appreciated!
Hi,
what is your local provider ? Is it T-Mobile, Vodafone, E-plus or O2 ?
The mda pro only works with a t-mobile sim !
- Superbowl
Try to clean the sim before putting it back in the MDA Pro,
Generally works for me!
i had the same problem with my jasjar here is Australia......my sim works on any other pda and phones but not the jasjar.....apparently the sim that i have or some of the new sims have a little higher voltage than normal.......and the jasjar dont like it.....so what i did was replace the sim with another one and that worked......al they had to do was port my number to the new sim......but before it did that tried to put the sim in first and it started to look for a network so i knew this was gonna work......becoz before when i put my old sim in it just says invalid sim or no sim........so try replacing ur sim with another one......perhaps try and get an old sim maybe the sim has some in stock.....i bet ya that will wrok....good luck
Thanks guys ... I'm trying to find an older T-Mobile SIM to try. It's just frustrating! I've tried giving the SIM a wipe, to no avail. If it is that the SIM is slightly incompatible, T-Mobile sending out another unit won't really help, right?
How annoying!
If anyone else has any great ideas I'd love to hear them!
try using someone elses sim and put it in the device and give it a try to check if its definitely the unit and not the sim......when i rang the tech support for optus thats what i was advised.....and they were right....sim voltage was the problem......anyways try getting another sim.
Contact customer services.
The problem sounds like you SIM is too old.
They should ask for your SIM serial number, if its too old they'll offer to send you a new SIM or something else to make it work straight away??? :wink:
The MDA PRO as its a 3G type phone with WCDMA it needs a diffrent sim card that is usaly known as a 3V USIM.
Its the same on Three in the UK, the sims from their phones will only work in 3G phones not standard GSM ones and vica-versa.
Old SIMs (from about 5 years ago) are rated at 5 volts. Newer ones are 3 volts (not just for 3G). Trust me, I work for a certain mobile phone company who sponser West Brom. ;-)
The problem will be fixed in a future software upgrade. But for now you need a new SIM or your phone unlocked.
Trouble is, this *is* a new SIM... I'm moving back to the 'hardware fault' diagnosis I think.
I went to a friendly carphone warehouse shop in Oxford and tried a new (and definately working) T-Mobile PAYG SIM and that gave exactly the same error.
Maybe T-Mobile need to send me a 3G SIM. I guess I'm probably just going to have to wait until they can send me a new handset to see what happens.
Ho hum!
There's no such thing as a 3G SIM. The 3G gigery pokery happens on the phone. There is no need for a different SIM. The MDA Pro has a problem with SIMs with certain serial numbers (Don't know which coz I'm not at work). You need either a SIM that the phone likes or your phone unlocked. Call customer services if you still have your phone.
Had the same problem allready twice in 2 weeks.
One time a soft reset made the device working again - another time I had to take out the sim card and put it in again, then it worked. But all email accounts were gone and had to be installed again.
Chris
Slave1 said:
There's no such thing as a 3G SIM. The 3G gigery pokery happens on the phone. There is no need for a different SIM. The MDA Pro has a problem with SIMs with certain serial numbers (Don't know which coz I'm not at work). You need either a SIM that the phone likes or your phone unlocked. Call customer services if you still have your phone.
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Hi, thanks for that reply... it seems very useful! If you could post/pm me the numbers of those SIMs that the MDA Pro is unlikely to like I'd really appreciate it... customer services aren't striking me as very helpful (and certainly not knowledgable) and I can tell that if I call them they're still going to say: Wait until we have another handset in stock and we'll see what happens then. Which doesn't help me much as who knows when that will be?
Thanks!
Any SIM serial not starting with 06 or 07 will be affected by the issue.
eg 90043575, the serial starts with 04.
This will be fixed with a software upgrade in the future, in the mean time you either need new SIM or you handset unlocked. For either call customer services.
I got my MDA Pro a few days ago also, had the same problem as you, basically the handset is network locked, not sure how they managed to lock all UK network, basically give Tmob a call and make sure your stay on the line until they provide with an unlock code, i got mine, now my old sim works and my handset is unlocked
I got my MDA Pro a few days ago also, had the same problem as you, basically the handset is network locked, not sure how they managed to lock all UK network, basically give Tmob a call and make sure your stay on the line until they provide with an unlock code, i got mine, now my old sim works and my handset is unlocked
i had the same problem with my ASUS P535 (here is France) with new SIM card.
seen from :http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?id=20070818011855796&board_id=6&model=P535&page=1&SLanguage=en-us
Thanks.
I had the same problem BUT-
I had the same problem but i had been using the sim card successfully with the exec for a year, after a hard reset it doesnt recognise the sim. will a ROM upgrade fix it or is it a hardware failiure?
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lauriewsmith said:
I had the same problem but i had been using the sim card successfully with the exec for a year, after a hard reset it doesnt recognise the sim. will a ROM upgrade fix it or is it a hardware failiure?
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I had this happening to me just last week with a card that works all the time. Then followed that I had no sound coming off speakers or bluetooth. In my case it was a third party software problem. Don't ask me which as I install and uninstall too many applications and my Uni gets in a tangle sometimes. A soft reset instantly (in terms!) restored phone activities and sound, so I recommend a reset if you haven't tried it already. Maybe you will need more than one.
I have an SPV M700 (HTC P3600).
I have the following problems with it:
Speaker phone is rubbish, got it set up in the cradle in my car and can hardly hear the person i am talking too. Anyone agree?
GPS!!!!!! TomTom will not work and is driving me know where except slowly insane. Same problem as other post, no mention of GPS in menus and tomtom just says No GPS device! Other post talked about ROMs? Sorry i have no idea what these are or how to install them. Any chance of someone giving me a quick dummies guide. It seems to work for other person having the exact prob.
Most internet pages don't come out too well, expected better from the IE windows mobile. Not used it before, you see.
Purchased unlocking off ebay, don't think its worked. Is there a link to unlocking on this forum?? Will i loose my Orange menu and colours when unlocked.
Keyboard. When i tried this phone out in the shop the keyboard was like a phone pad (press 2 twice for letter B) but can't find on mine, just normal one, transcriber etc??
PLEASE PLEASE spend a minute helping me. I am looking at the MDA compact III on t-mobile but just been told tomtom won't work on it by them. Don't know what speaker phone is like on it either.
Kind regards
George
Nottingham.
George Nottingham...... Relax, get a brew, take a breath..........
First a question.... have you read all that there is here.... and which version of Tom Tom are you trying to run, you need 6.03 an "most" of the problems go away other wise....... go read this lot:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310971
Beofre you start rom-ing read also all of either:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305133
OR
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305250
after reading AT LEAST the first post of each, upgrade the rom, there is an Orange .cab (file thinggy) knockig about to put all your orange setting and front page back on after sorting out the software and getting TT running.
As for the speaker phone... never been happy with mine, but use SoreTooth in stead
More tea and biscuits
Thanks deech for your quick reply. All that talk of tea and relaxing really worked!
Ok i have just checked the tomtom version and is it 6.00. Never i have been so happy that i have out of date software! Only concern is i tried to run Orange's Sat Nav (yes they have there own sat nav that comes sort of free, funny thing is when i rang them up they didn't know they did!). Anyway that didn't pick up a GPS signal either, ummmmm.
What is SoreTooth? Searched for it but can't find anything.
Any luck with my other two moans:
Purchased unlocking off ebay, don't think its worked. Is there a link to unlocking on this forum?? Will i loose my Orange menu and colours when unlocked.
Keyboard. When i tried this phone out in the shop the keyboard was like a phone pad (press 2 twice for letter B) but can't find on mine, just normal one, transcriber etc??
George Nottingham
I've been looking around the site, it look great. No idea what anything means! I'll learn, I guess.
think the keyboard thing i was banging on about is called Phone Pad?
I wonder if i can get WM6 on my orange spv m700....
I can work out how to bluetooth pictures to my mac. Oh no thats another thing to worry about, syncing with my mac! The missing sync looks good?
This is stressful. Remember what deech said George, make a brew!
ahh ummm right.... missed the other moans.........
Right Oranges own Tom Tom thing FORGET IT, get real and proper Tom Tom (from wherever ) It's limited and trial and well frankly not worth the effort.
The Phone pad thing... get PhonePad International (search round these fora) it's here
As for the unlocking....... search round here for CID and ... summat else Unlocking. No if you just unlock, then you wont loose the Orange Branding.. however why you would want that is beyond me... but hey ho.
In Tom Tom have you checked the gps receiver?..... Set it to Other NEMA and com 9 and baud rate... well anything you want from what I can see.
In TTT6.03 there is anew option... "Use Built in Reciever" and after that it ermmmm just works.......
Think I got it all now......... right time for some tea here too
And sorry for the red herring.... soretooth = Bluetooth... can be troublesome on occasion
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I've been looking around the site, it look great. No idea what anything means! I'll learn, I guess.
think the keyboard thing i was banging on about is called Phone Pad?
I wonder if i can get WM6 on my orange spv m700....
I can work out how to bluetooth pictures to my mac. Oh no thats another thing to worry about, syncing with my mac! The missing sync looks good?
This is stressful. Remember what deech said George, make a brew!
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Yes you can, follow the posts I gave earlier and robert will be your mothers brother, I did it, just remeber back up any "special" ring tones, and phone book etc etc, and afterwards grab the Orangesettings.cob, to put the mms gprs etc all back in place
Can't beleive i fell for that! I gave sorethooth a proper search as well. what a plonka. I think it comes with being a novice to all this, it takes over your life a bit and your mind only thinks about tomtom v6!
Ok cheers agian for your help deech, much appreciated.
Just one more thing if you will be so kind.
Now you have equiped me with all the links to keep me up till the weekend, i think i want to hard reset my phone. Didn't like the ebay unlocking thing and hope its hasn't buggered it up. Thinking i could start fresh? Good idea. Maybe just a factory reset?
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's upto you or just re-flash it and have done with it, tbh I have no experience with unlocking these... now Nokias onthe other hand
Dont think you'll hurt it by doing a Hard Reset, however I dont know if it'll re-lock the phone or what, might be one for a seperate thread?
Hi macmacman- you still need to slow down!
I'd actually go against the grain here and say don't consider flashing your ROM until you are decently competent with Windows Mobile. There isn't a great deal of difference, and the M700 comes with a late version of WM5.
Why did you need to unlock? Are you going to use a different SIM card in it? Some unlockers actually work by replacing the Radio part of the ROM, and some of those are NOT GPS enabled. Go into Settings/System/Device Information and check the Radio version- it must end in .11 for GPS to be enabled. All stock Orange M700's come with GPS enabled. If yours is incorrect you must install un updated Radio stack.
As Deech says, set TTN to either Built-In, or Other NMEA using COM9 and 57600 Baud, then GO OUTSIDE WITH A CLEAR VIEW OF THE SKY to obtain a first fix- it will take up to 10 minutes the 1st time. If TTN has detected your GPS, the status line under the map display will say 'Waiting for Valid GPS Signal' - if you see that you just need to wait till it amalgamates all the sat signals. If you still see 'No GPS Device', then you either have a faulty device, or the Radio ROM isn't working properly.
Either case would be a cause for replacement by Orange- another reason not to flash the ROM, because by doing so you invalidate the warranty.
Keep trying- its worth it!
[Edit- Oh and T-Mob are talking bolox- any WM5 device can run any WM5 program. But, the Compact III is an inferior device- no WiFi, slower processor, and MicroSD card as opposed to MiniSD. Micro cards are slower, and more prone to file system errors]
deech said:
's upto you or just re-flash it and have done with it, tbh I have no experience with unlocking these... now Nokias onthe other hand
Dont think you'll hurt it by doing a Hard Reset, however I dont know if it'll re-lock the phone or what, might be one for a seperate thread?
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A hard reset can be good to clear unwanted operator customisations, especially if you reset before the Operator Customisations start, but with the Orange M700, this can lead to loss of some services, especially Orange World, which is built into the main ROM and Extended ROM. Disabling the horrible Orange Today application is no bad thing though!
Generally once a device is unlocked, it will remain that way through hard resets and even ROM updates, but there are different unlocking methods:
SIM unlock just allows a different operators SIM card to be used (Orange and T-Mo both SIM lock their WM phones)
CID unlock allows other ROM versions to be installed (ie if an Orange device is not CID unlocked, you can only use Orange ROM's)
SPL unlocking changes the Bootloader (akin to the BIOS) to allow any valid ROM to be loaded.
All the Unlock and ROM tools are availiable via the Trinity Wiki on this site- too late for you, but don't go near the Ebay ones as you don't know what you are getting
Ok i have checked my Radio version under Device information and it says 1.16.00.00 so you right that doesn't end in .11 and so my GPS doesn't work. So i need to install un updated Radio stack.
Like you said NeilM the m700 come with .11 so something has changes this? Could have been that dodgy ebay unlocking software? I bet orange will reject my devise if i send it back for that reason!! damn it.
I am thinking of going onto t-mobile for the web and walk package. Actually i don't like the orange menu so don't care if i loose that too.
So i just need to install un updated Radio stack and so a SIM unlock. easier said then done?
Cheers NeilN and deech for your help so far. George
Yes- your 'dodgy' unlock software has corrupted the radio stack.
You first need to 'super CID' your device to allow a new Radio ROM to be added (though as your current radio is non standard this has probably already happened);
Head to This Thread which has links halfway down the 1st page to a CID Unlocker, and Radio 1.41 upgrade.
That ought to work, but make sure to follow ALL the instructions!
Ok I have hard reset my phone, so i am now back to where i started and hopefully there is no trace of my dodgy ebay unlocking rubbish?
First thing i did after resetting is check my Radio version under Device information and it still says 1.16.00.00! That must mean it was shipped to me like that.
Anyway i need to change that to .11 so i have gone to here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305250
and downloaded the 2) Update GSM: GSM_1.41.00.11
Is the right? Sorry for being a dullard if wrong.
Anyway i downloaded it put it in a new folder on my devise then went to it on my devise and it said this is not a valid pocket pc app!
Have i got the wrong file?
No sorry- hard resetting DOES NOT go back to how it was supplied- it goes back to the latest ROM flash, be it the Radio or OS, so you are stuck with the dodgy radio stack until you upgrade it.
I don't know the specifics of the Radio ROM you have downloaded, but 1.41 is the current latest.
The file MUST BE RUN from the PC, with Activesync connected. If your device is correctly unlocked, then it will load into the PPC via A/S and initiate the update process. In the course of that, A/S will stop, and a generic USB connection established.
At that point you may get a 'Cannot Connect' error, and the screen of the Trinity will be multicoloured bars. You now need to run the update file once again, and the ROM Update progres bar should start. If it won't proceed, then you need to take Step 1 from the page you cited, and load the Hard SPL updater, which will allow the Radio update.
Ok its going well, i've managed to change my radio to.11 which i pretty proud of to be honest!
Now then i have tried the terrible orange sat nav just to see if the gps would work and it did! Next i tried my TomTom v6.00 and it didn't work. Do i definately need 6.03?
Feeling more confident now. might upgrade to WM6. If i go hear
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305250
LVSW_Trinity_WM6_v2.0.1.1
HowTo:
1) Update SPL: HARD-SPL
2) Update GSM: GSM_1.41.00.11
3) Update ROM: 20070527_Trinity_WM6_v2.0.1.1
and download 1) 2) and 3) in order will that be ok? Will it get ride of my Orange today menus, hopefully they are a bit annoying!
I also would like Phone Pad international or something that can act like a standard textign phone pad when i am entering text for some reason mine is available to me? Think that might be an Orange thing as my mate has an older HTC and has it on.
Thanks for your quick replies so far, much appreciated.
George
one more thing, i am about to purchase tomtom navigator 6. Jsut rang them up and the version they sell is the latest 6.06. Take it this will be fine considering deech said 6.03?
Thanks
yup, basically in 6.03 they introduced "use built in gps" feature, so should be safe to assume 6.06 will still have this
I've ordered my tomtom software. I've also upgraded to WM6 thanks to that thread all about it. Doing ok for a novice i think.
Last thing to solve is this keypad thing.. had a look for phonepad international but can't find it?
Looking through options on new OS and can't find any options for the keyborad. I now seem to have lost transcriber with WM6 too!?
If you have already bought TTN6.00, you should be able the updated file FOC via TomTom Home, though you will need to pay if you want the latest maps.
Using TTN6.00, in the GPS settings, select Other NMEA Receiver (NOT Other NEA Bluetooth..), then Baud 57600 and connect to COM9
Once those are entered, you should be able to see the main screen status change to 'Waiting for Valid GPS Signal'; the GPS Status screen will have asmall revolving icon at the top right. This proecess can take some time and a clear view of the sky, so be patient!
Google PhonePad International on XDA Devs and you will find the file. It runs well on late WM5 or WM6, but as you found, won't run on the Orange version. It is a bit limited in that it doesn't have word completion, but is useful nonetheless.
Some of the WM6 ROM's omit transcriber, because it uses memory, and few people use it anyway
NeilM said:
Generally once a device is unlocked, it will remain that way through hard resets and even ROM updates, but there are different unlocking methods:
SIM unlock just allows a different operators SIM card to be used (Orange and T-Mo both SIM lock their WM phones)
CID unlock allows other ROM versions to be installed (ie if an Orange device is not CID unlocked, you can only use Orange ROM's)
SPL unlocking changes the Bootloader (akin to the BIOS) to allow any valid ROM to be loaded.
All the Unlock and ROM tools are availiable via the Trinity Wiki on this site- too late for you, but don't go near the Ebay ones as you don't know what you are getting
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Newbie to HTC devices. I'm familiar with ETEN X500/WM5/WM6 etc, ROM flashing by card and all that jazz, but CID/SPL I don't know yet, so:
does SPL unlocking also cause CID & SIM unlocking? Or does each operation need to be done consecutively, if so any order?
what does CID & SPL stand for anyway, please?
and can the sat locations be updated via internet, like HP and ETEN etc ?
The reason for this is I'm waying an HTCP3600 against yet-to-be released ETEN X800
Ok, I have been browsing this forum for a solution to my problem and none seem too specific, at least for my BA wm6.
Here is the problem: I just received a dual sim adapter (the one that needs cutting) -both sims work fine. I can't get them to switch from one sim to the other from my phone. power on/off and flight mode won't do it either. I tried phone alarm, dual sim switcher, and wivit. They don't work for my phone. I also have a wm2003 se BA and tried it on there and I was only to get the dual sim to switch once. So now the dual sim is stuck on SIM2. So it doesn't matter which phone I use I can only use the sim that is on the SIM 2 slot! Blah!!
What I need: A program, or anything to switch my SIMs for my BA wm6. I don't want to keep taking out my sim and open the sim adapter and switch the two sims all the time.
Edit: after fooling around with my 2003se BA I managed to get the Dual Sim Manager to work again, and I noticed that despite switching SIMS, phone information alway display the default SIM. Does this mean that it is not switching? Does this mean that it does switch but the phone does not display it? If latter is the case then I am in big trouble! One SIM has unlimited internet and texting and other one is just a basic plan. Please help! I don't want a surprise bill!
Edit: Sorry, I needed an answer so I'm feverishly testing this crap out. And the answer is yes the sim changes but the phone does not display so. The trick I used is texting my account info and voila! Two different accounts! So, now over to my wm6 BA and check that out
I'm really surprised, that people are so patient to fight with such an uneffective and clumsy device as dual SIM adapter: you have to cut/destroy those SIM cards, then you have to pray that i works with your phone...
I really think, that if you really need to use 2 SIMcards, why not buying a 2nd phone, or just a special phone with 2 radios and for 2 SIMs.
And please don't tell me it's "for comfort" - dualSIM is antiComfort...
There are other solutions that you don't need to cut the sim, one that I have seen is the addapter is placed in the sim slot and the simm are part of the battery pack.
Bottom line is that that one sucks as well.
I feel there is a valid need in my line of work were I would need at least 3 laptops to support the Builds of my customers however VMWare gets me by fine.
As for the phone, I need 2, carry 2 and hate it.
So I would be a buyer if there was anything around worth having. (which as I still have a BA seems not the case).
Dual Sim Problem
Hi pharmeceutikle,
I wonder how this device works for BA at all!
I tried an adapter like yours of a friend of mine and it just doesn't work with my BA.After inserted, I don't see any new menu for it and when I restart the BA, it shows invalid sim message at startup. I have installed a WM6.1 ROM downloaded at this site [20749 (Build 20749.1.4.0 PV DVH) - v13] and my radio version is 1.12 (by the way, it was 1.15 but 1.12 is the only one that worked fine for my device). The same adapter, once installed on a Motorola phone of my friend works pretty fine! so, it's not a problem with the adapter, I guess...
Did you change anything on registry? could you please tell me how did you proceed since cutting the sims until you got it to work, please?
Many thanks!
JFLB said:
Hi pharmeceutikle,
I wonder how this device works for BA at all!
I tried an adapter like yours of a friend of mine and it just doesn't work with my BA.After inserted, I don't see any new menu for it and when I restart the BA, it shows invalid sim message at startup. I have installed a WM6.1 ROM downloaded at this site [20749 (Build 20749.1.4.0 PV DVH) - v13] and my radio version is 1.12 (by the way, it was 1.15 but 1.12 is the only one that worked fine for my device). The same adapter, once installed on a Motorola phone of my friend works pretty fine! so, it's not a problem with the adapter, I guess...
Did you change anything on registry? could you please tell me how did you proceed since cutting the sims until you got it to work, please?
Many thanks!
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This dual sim adapter only works if you have a working STK ROMs. I believe I used Helmi's original wm6 as one of them and then I went to others but I can't quite remember which. I posted an experiment with the all the ROMS I used awhile ago so just do a search under my name. Anyways, I couldn't get it to switch sims normally so I had to reset the damn thing all the time. I would go to the STK menu and choose either sim 1 or 2 and then quit out and then reset my phone for it to make the change which really is a pain. As soon as my second sim ran out I just tossed the infernal thing and stuck one sim per phone! Sorry couldn't be much more of a help.
Thanks
Thanks anyway I'll keep searching for a while.
Hi
I have just bought a diamond 2.
I have put my SIM card in and when I switch the phone on it comes up saying the SIM is missing. I have tried cleaning the SIM and re-inserting and even padding out with some paper. Unfortunately none of this has worked and the phone remains just as useless to me.
Apparently it is SIM-locked to O2, I am using a working O2 SIM. Does this mean that it might be SIM-locked to someother network or is it a hardware fault or could it be something else?
I have tried plenty of searching but that has yielded nothing so far.
Thanks for any answers
Jim
Hi
Have you bought this second hand? Perhaps it is locked for contract use and you are using Pay As You Go? It might also have been reported stolen and deactivated.
Do you know the SIM works, have you tried it in another phone?
Options are, try another O2 SIM, if that doesn't work contact O2 and ask them to check it, they might be able to tell you why the phone isn't accepted on their network. Alternatively contact the seller maybe?
If it is new of course take it back to the O2 shop and get them to check it, it could well be faulty.
Regards
Phil
Thanks for your response Phil
I have tried 2 different working O2 SIM's in the phone and they both don't work.
I'm thinking that because its saying SIM is missing it is not seeing the SIM as opposed to it being SIM-locked.
I have contacted the seller and he insists that it worked fine on O2.
I am really dissapointed as I was really looking forward to using this phone
I had exactly the same when I first powered up my TD2 - and I know my SIM worked.....
I found that I cleaned the sim by running on my t-shirt (obvious) - and then reinserted - with the same problem....
Then I pushed the card hard in both lateral and vertical directions - push the end of the sim towards the edge of the phone and then push down on the sim - it didnt even look like it moved to me - but when I put the battery back in - presto it worked.....
I'll give that a try, thanks
no joy with that.
Thankfully the seller has offered me a refund, just need to buy another one sharpish