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has anybody come across a one button close all application for WM5.0? Spb 3.0.1 is too slow on WM5 and Wisbar Advance 2.4.....is also too much for what is needed. Something like Magicbutton but written for WM5.0 would br nice, nothing that requires much memory, but something that enables the closing of running apps without having to go into start/settings/system/memory...etc.
Wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft had just written in that piece of code, as they are well aware that since PPC2000, that every application opened, remains so unless you manually close it down in memory (therefore hogging memory resources!) :evil:
Well if anyone knows of a WM specific solution, please do share.
mackaby007 said:
has anybody come across a one button close all application for WM5.0? Spb 3.0.1 is too slow on WM5 and Wisbar Advance 2.4.....is also too much for what is needed. Something like Magicbutton but written for WM5.0 would br nice, nothing that requires much memory, but something that enables the closing of running apps without having to go into start/settings/system/memory...etc.
Wouldn't it be nice if Microsoft had just written in that piece of code, as they are well aware that since PPC2000, that every application opened, remains so unless you manually close it down in memory (therefore hogging memory resources!) :evil:
Well if anyone knows of a WM specific solution, please do share.
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I added couple files which they are usefull for you and they include the closeall app.
Install the cab files you'll see the close all, Reset and Running programs, which they can be clicked from the systray directly, after the installation they require a soft reset or else you go to Start>Programs>System open TrayLaunch and press Enable
GSPocketMagic++ is the most stable program I've tried. You need to put some amended bitmaps in to get it to integrate with WM5 but it works well...
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1276
Thanks guys. I'll try them both and let you know how I get on.
Damn!! My Jasjar is a Rocket!!
sub69 said:
GSPocketMagic++ is the most stable program I've tried. You need to put some amended bitmaps in to get it to integrate with WM5 but it works well...
http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1276
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sub69: I don't know what kind of coding they used in that software you recommended, but it has boosted refresh rates and performance in general by at least 30%!! I know this sounds crazy but it's true! My opinion has completely changed about the speed of the Jasjar. It seriously Rocks! I couldn't care less if it doesn't stay this way, because it shows me conclusively, that future ROMs' will probably address the issues I have had thus far.
I needed this. Thanks a bunch sub69; best link I've had with regards to Universal software.
OK 1 gripe only: I've lost my two soft buttons on the bottom bar (any ideas?). It comes back and stays operational after a soft reset, but as soon as I use the 'close all' option of the program, I loose the soft keys! Damn..there's always a hitch!
Another positive though, the speed boost remains even after I have exited the program and revert to standard WM5.0 launcher!
P.S. I had at least 12 programs running simultaneously with no slow downs at all and 15 megs of Memory still available (tried to run out of memory, But couldn't). Very pleased at the moment, this is what I was expecting from the HTC Universal!! I'll test extensively before I comment further.
Thanks again sub69, u da Man!!
Mental...I didn't realise it was that good!?!
Not sure about the soft buttons, although come to think of it I have noticed they've disappeared a couple of times. Must've been when I hit "Close All" too?
Glad I could help, anyway. Do let us know how things go...
Re:getting better all the time!!
sub69 said:
Mental...I didn't realise it was that good!?!
Not sure about the soft buttons, although come to think of it I have noticed they've disappeared a couple of times. Must've been when I hit "Close All" too?
Glad I could help, anyway. Do let us know how things go...
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Still cannot believe it!! It's still going strong. Sussed the soft button thingy:Under start (GSPocket)/options/settings...uncheck the 2 tabs for'use exten task close' & 'Use Today skin'. That's it. It runs absolutely perfectly for me & with no need for amended bitmaps too! It fits right in wih my red or blue border themes (I only use my own jpegs now instead of themes - in the hope that I get no performance issues.....so far so good). Under menu settind tab I only select close all & setting (which gives me quick access to all settings in WM5.0..personal & system) and under 'click' tab I leave it as default 'Menu'. I'm so impressed with this software, I didn't think non-specific WM5 software coul be this good!
That site you recommended is also tops!
This software is so good that I must put up a new thread to inform all of your wonder find. I just hope all who try it get the same experience I'm getting. Thanks again sub69....I don't even feel the need for the next ROM update/grade...though I won't be turning it away.
Hmmm, not sure why you're that stunned. I'm finding it just fine - but certainly no faster than my JJ runs under PocketPlus 3.01, and the non-VGA graphics are a real step backwards. Anyone know how to solve this?
You mention a speed improvement; can you clarify: Before this, how long did it take to rotate the screen, and how long does it take now?
MagicButton (mbutton) works with batterymeter
Hi All,
I installed MagicButton (freeware) om my K-Jam. It works so far!
Cheers,
CookieM
pocketpcfreewares.com is great! They do an RSSfeed showing all new and updated software, too, so its a permanent fixture as a "Live Bookmark" on my Firefox bookmarks toolbar.
I must fiddle with some .bmp's for GSPocketMagic++...
Can someone tell me how to install this? In laymans terms
It's simpler than you think
trapper said:
Can someone tell me how to install this? In laymans terms
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Carnivor said:
CJSnet said:
Which CAB file do I install?
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GSPMagic.xscaleE.CAB for english on JJ
Sub69, nice start button, now the flawless look sets it off
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That's the file you need to download for the Jasjar, then if you have an SD card reader, you can transfer it directly to it and install the .cab file by selecting it! If you don't have a card reader, let's hope you have a bluetooth dongle, as it's a small file then you can bluetooth it over. However if you have no problems with your activesync connection, just use that to dump the .cab file on your storage card somewhere or into 'My Documents' on the jasjar.
It's not complicated.
Read the posts craigiecraigie4!
craigiecraigie4 said:
Hmmm, not sure why you're that stunned. I'm finding it just fine - but certainly no faster than my JJ runs under PocketPlus 3.01, and the non-VGA graphics are a real step backwards. Anyone know how to solve this?
You mention a speed improvement; can you clarify: Before this, how long did it take to rotate the screen, and how long does it take now?
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craigiecraigie4 said:
I can confirm that this programme is small and perfectly funcitonal for closing apps. If you're battling with PocketPlus for some reason, then this is definitely the way to go.
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mackaby007 said:
For anyone like sub69 who have experienced relatively few problems with their universal, you might not notice any difference, but for anyone who is still suffering performance issues
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Read the following thread and you'll see that I had performance issues with my jasjar, hence these posts:
Link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=30443
ramram said:
I added couple files which they are usefull for you and they include the closeall app.
Install the cab files you'll see the close all, Reset and Running programs, which they can be clicked from the systray directly, after the installation they require a soft reset or else you go to Start>Programs>System open TrayLaunch and press Enable
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Good App ! made my day, very useful and simple
Cheers
hrb
Yep, using it myself now - but no speed change over PocketPlus (even after hard reset to remove PP). Using it cos I like menu and PP didn;t offer all that much more that other apps don;t give me.
Why? Because it useless and it ocupies a line of space that could be used by a today plugin!!!
TrayDisplay is what you need!!! Built with ATL C++, it comes in two files:
HideTray: that makes tour system tray invisible;
DisplayTray: that makes tour system tray visible!!
It makes a shortcut on your \Windows\StartUp folder so that everytime you reset your PPC, it will hide the tray!
When the file is run, it makes it's job and then end's so that it doesn't stay in memory.
This file is not a patch, but an application!
Only tested with Windows Mobile 2005, don't know if will work with WM2003...
OK,
nice idea but doesn't work on W2003 SE, at least not on mine. Also no effect after soft-reset.
M
I doesn't work on my 2003se device (Imate jam) either
can anyone post a link to this program? i cant seem to find it anywhere at all ;-(
ok n/m found it lol, just had to sign in lol
ei99070 said:
Only tested with Windows Mobile 2005, don't know if will work with WM2003...
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well, please tell me, where you are running WM5 on Magician, when it doesn't exists?
or is this just posted in wrong forum?
;o)))
buzz
I know I've seen another tool for hiding top-&bottom bars somewhere on the web. Cannot remember where, but it had to do with 'xx% larger screen'. As I don't mind having the bars I didn't pay much attention to it. I specially like the top bar with date/time & spb gprs icon. But taste is personally. So you'll have to search yourself when you really want this.
M
OK found it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27331&highlight=screen
buzz_lightyear said:
ei99070 said:
Only tested with Windows Mobile 2005, don't know if will work with WM2003...
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well, please tell me, where you are running WM5 on Magician, when it doesn't exists?
or is this just posted in wrong forum?
;o)))
buzz
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Yep, wrong forum Should have been the universal (posted there after)...
use WISBAR ADVANCE DESKTOP. works with WM2003SE, guarantee. and the latest version can hide to top bar aswell~!!!! so, 100% of your screen can be filled up with your favourite wallapaper :lol: :lol:
the application is ok, never crash.
erwinsie said:
use WISBAR ADVANCE DESKTOP. works with WM2003SE, guarantee. and the latest version can hide to top bar aswell~!!!! so, 100% of your screen can be filled up with your favourite wallapaper :lol: :lol:
the application is ok, never crash.
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He he...that's mildly spoken :lol: With WA2 & WAD ( WAD is WA2 dependent ) you have total, and I do mean total control of your today-screen(s) and yes. you can have more than one... :shock: Now you can have all your favorite today plug-ins in each their own screen, full screen ! You can make your own short-cuts to any application, and place it anywhere, and that's only the beginning. The possibilities are endless, please do take a look :wink:
Flipside said:
erwinsie said:
use WISBAR ADVANCE DESKTOP. works with WM2003SE, guarantee. and the latest version can hide to top bar aswell~!!!! so, 100% of your screen can be filled up with your favourite wallapaper :lol: :lol:
the application is ok, never crash.
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He he...that's mildly spoken :lol: With WA2 & WAD ( WAD is WA2 dependent ) you have total, and I do mean total control of your today-screen(s) and yes. you can have more than one... :shock: Now you can have all your favorite today plug-ins in each their own screen, full screen ! You can make your own short-cuts to any application, and place it anywhere, and that's only the beginning. The possibilities are endless, please do take a look :wink:
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WAD and WA2 are two master pieces that will breath new life into your Pocket PC. The UI will look stunning if you get good skins and graphics .
Definetly agree with you, Flipside. Endless posibilities
Problem
The problem with these tools is they consume a lot of system resources and slow your machine down.
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The problem with these tools is they consume a lot of system resources and slow your machine down.
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That's not entirely true anymore... Naturally the more you "fill" in, the more memory you lose, but it's def. not the program itself...But if you look at what you actually get here, the little memory you lose is a very small price to pay... ( I have like 16 different pages running, with dock and icons, plug-ins and text-objects, and the memory loss I can measure is app. 6 mb ) In my book that's nothing compared to what this program has to offer, my magician is almost stylus-free, and that's really neat when I'm in my car etc...
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Flipside said:
littld said:
The problem with these tools is they consume a lot of system resources and slow your machine down.
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That's not entirely true anymore... Naturally the more you "fill" in, the more memory you lose, but it's def. not the program itself...But if you look at what you actually get here, the little memory you lose is a very small price to pay... ( I have like 16 different pages running, with dock and icons, plug-ins and text-objects, and the memory loss I can measure is app. 6 mb ) In my book that's nothing compared to what this program has to offer, my magician is almost stylus-free, and that's really neat when I'm in my car etc...
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Can you show us a screenshot please? I like the idea of "stylus free". Anyways, here's mine.
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kta said:
Can you show us a screenshot please? I like the idea of "stylus free". Anyways, here's mine.
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Sure you've shown me yours, so here is mine, almost stylusfree :wink:
BTW I've kept a couple of pages to myself, you know, private stuff
Don't know why the gif looks weird when I upload I preview, and things are good, but something is definitely wrong....have tried numerous times now... :?:
I can post single screenshots if anyone wants a closer look or an explanation ....
I installed traydisplayinstall.cab , Tray disappeared -- but space can not be used :-(
[HTC Uni, WM5]
Nice program.
I just found it, and it works fine on WM6.5.
Do you experience lag on your universal?
When you have install SPB pocket plus, and recall from stanby?
will need around 5-10 seconds to repond?
Any solution for this?
Try removing the icons that display information about free RAM / storage card space from the today screen and see if it speeds up.
Have encountered the same problem with my Dopod 900. After some discussion and comparison with other Dopod 900 users here in Singapore, found that everyone has the same issue as well...
Not sure if it is due to the ROM?
One of the reason is due to Spb pocket plus. Don't use it. My don't have any lag problem after i junked the Spb pocket plus. In fact you don't need any task closing program to force close the program, WM5.0 can handle multiple programs in memory fine. Just do a close all at the end of the day and you should be fine.
Bin the msn plug in slows mine. I removed mine.
The problem is with the "storage card" meter....
just remove the storage card meter, and everything would be fine!
the lag is because, WM5 takes a few seconds to initialize the storage card, and spb plus locks up looking for one in this period....
Hope this helps,
San
Well, I found that killing the "srvtrust" process as soon as my JasJar starts up seems to speed things up quite a lot...
dreamtheater39 said:
The problem is with the "storage card" meter....
just remove the storage card meter, and everything would be fine!
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Didn't I just say that?!
parkertseng said:
Do you experience lag on your universal?
When you have install SPB pocket plus, and recall from stanby?
will need around 5-10 seconds to repond?
Any solution for this?
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PocketPlus did this to my Exec too, so I uninstalled it.
There's no point having PP on the Today screen if you can't show the meters. There are enough buttons on the Universal to map to your favourite programs that you can survive without a launcher until SPB release a properly-compatible version of PocketPlus, IMHO.
This is not a Pocket Plus exclusive fault, *almost any* today plugin that display battery and/or storage infos cause this lag. For instance, Resco Today Plugin exploits the same issue.
The only plugin that seems to not slow down the wake-up process is SBSH iLauncher.
Cheers.
@ngel said:
This is not a Pocket Plus exclusive fault, *almost any* today plugin that display battery and/or storage infos cause this lag. For instance, Resco Today Plugin exploits the same issue.
The only plugin that seems to not slow down the wake-up process is SBSH iLauncher.
Cheers.
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On the other hand, Pocket Weather and especially PocketBreeze (again by SBSH) seem to slow it up a lot as well. But they are really useful for me so .....trade off!
sunstealer said:
Try removing the icons that display information about free RAM / storage card space from the today screen and see if it speeds up.
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Hey, this really works and now I know why!!!!
sunstealer said:
Try removing the icons that display information about free RAM / storage card space from the today screen and see if it speeds up.
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Hey, this really works and now I know why!!!!
sunstealer said:
dreamtheater39 said:
The problem is with the "storage card" meter....
just remove the storage card meter, and everything would be fine!
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Didn't I just say that?!
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u said "free ram" too
that doesnt slow down anything ;-)
its just the storage card....!
cheers!
San
parkertseng said:
sunstealer said:
Try removing the icons that display information about free RAM / storage card space from the today screen and see if it speeds up.
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Hey, this really works and now I know why!!!!
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How do you take this bar off?
NOW IS GOOD
Hi,
I uninstalled SPB and finally my JASJAR is working fine. Thanks to this forum I'm really understanding many things. Differently I should have sold my JASJAR.
CIAO
STefano
Just go the the setting of the SPB pocket plus and unselect that item hten that will do
Hi all. As it is a recognised bug in Spb Shell that the Spb Menu does not display correctly in Landscape only, from a cold boot until you have navigated through some of its menu's (then it works perfectly until the next soft-reset), I was wondering if anyone had come across a simpler solution to this current problem.
Has anyone else experienced a slowing down of the O/S with it installed or memory leakage?
I 've looked around at previous threads and other sites, but I've either missed it or it doesn't exist.
I'm running version 1.0.0, Build 2632
Is there a newer version available? If so, can someone please provide a link as I cannot find anything at Spb's site.
Cheers
C'mon people. I know I'm not the only one to experience this as I have read a long thread about this on the developers website. It's just sometimes us end-users find ways around these types of issues and I was hoping this was one such time......No takers? OK, I'll simply report back the solution for all the shy ones once I have found it myself.
mackaby007 said:
C'mon people. I know I'm not the only one to experience this as I have read a long thread about this on the developers website. It's just sometimes us end-users find ways around these types of issues and I was hoping this was one such time......No takers? OK, I'll simply report back the solution for all the shy ones once I have found it myself.
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you are not the only one, i have this problem too, that's why i disable the SPB menu, i am now only using the SPB Mobile Shell Today plugin. if i am not wrong, once you get your menu working or eventually load up, all your sound is gone.
I have heard other people having this problem too, so until next version is out, i will disable the menu for now.
Wow. I didn't realize before. I have that prob to..
Ha ha me too. Didn't realise the sound issue was down to the menu though. Thanks for that Wu.
mackaby007 said:
Ha ha me too. Didn't realise the sound issue was down to the menu though. Thanks for that Wu.
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glad to help, haha, you don't know what you have miss. I was surprise at first why my phone doesn't ring.
My mVoice software suffers from a similar bug. I think I had another program that did this also but I don't remember which it was. Long since deleted it.
My camera doesnt work when mobile is running,it just comes up blank.
I did have the same issue, however after installing true VGA, i no longer suffer from this issue; works perfectly.
what???????????????????????????
how did you get mobile shell to work with truevga?
several people including me don't get mobile shell to work (at least not the today plugin).
after installing i can't go to the today screen anymore. it gets stuck there. i need to go back to vga mode and uninstall it or hardreset.
zwuncki said:
what???????????????????????????
how did you get mobile shell to work with truevga?
several people including me don't get mobile shell to work (at least not the today plugin).
after installing i can't go to the today screen anymore. it gets stuck there. i need to go back to vga mode and uninstall it or hardreset.
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Yes, your quite right, you need to take the main spb shell today plugin out. However, the other plugins like world time and contacts etc can still remain. It is quite stable....
The problem is caused by the ATI videocard. It is not correctly supported bij SPB. Weeks ago I was in contact with SPB and I showed them this problem. The first 7 or 8 times that you use the menu nothing happens. At that point all te graphic memory get flushed. After the is no driver buffer memory left, it will show the icons. But at that point the camera and the sounds will not work anymore until you reset your device.
Bloody ATI/AMD...they suck!!!
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The problem is caused by the ATI videocard. It is not correctly supported bij SPB. Weeks ago I was in contact with SPB and I showed them this problem. The first 7 or 8 times that you use the menu nothing happens. At that point all te graphic memory get flushed. After the is no driver buffer memory left, it will show the icons. But at that point the camera and the sounds will not work anymore until you reset your device.
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This ATI Imageon chip/driver is becoming the bain of my life!! Video performance is lacking due to it, and now it affects other applications and sound too.
I have been complaining about ATI since September 2006, specifically the 2282 Imageon technology found in the Hermes, Trinity and now the Athena. That's a lot of unsupported devices floating around out there. According to Corecodec, ATI haven't exactly been playing ball with them either...and they are developers!
Maybe if enough of us complain (large petition) to HTC, they can get ATI/AMD to get a fix together that will work on all Imageon based devices..WM5/6 . After all, HTC must be shelling out a fair few dollars to them...so if they will listen to anyone, it most likely will be HTC. Enough already...wish I had stuck to my guns and stayed away from any more devices that are Imageon 'disabled'. lol.
P.S. Oh by the way...if Spb haven't or cannot fix this by their next release, Spb Shell is coming off my Ameo and I will be demanding a FULL refund on the basis that it does not work as advertised on my WM5 device.
P.P.S Another good reason is that if Spb don't get it fixed by the next release, it's probably that they can't as they will need tech assistance from ATI/AMD and based on their track record with Corecodecs coreplayer, I'd say the possibility of this happening is slim to none. Just my experience over the last 8 months.
faisal.husain said:
Yes, your quite right, you need to take the main spb shell today plugin out. However, the other plugins like world time and contacts etc can still remain. It is quite stable....
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thought you maybe had a solution for this.
i love the mobile shell today plugin, don't need the menu or start screen. so the most important doesn't work.
i've already written this in their forum, they don't seem to care, said it's the realvga resolution which is causing the problem (i should uninstall realvga... right, cause mobile shell is so much more important, man).
well maybe, but i don't think it's a lot to ask for a realvga today plugin which would work fine (as every other plugin does too), esp. as one of the devolpers has a vga device.
quite poor support (i love the sbsh support who help you in every way they can and very fast). i'm not a fan of spb developing/developers, that's why i don't use their products anymore and won't buy new ones.
wu5262 said:
you are not the only one, i have this problem too, that's why i disable the SPB menu, i am now only using the SPB Mobile Shell Today plugin. if i am not wrong, once you get your menu working or eventually load up, all your sound is gone.
I have heard other people having this problem too, so until next version is out, i will disable the menu for now.
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That's exactly what I've done. Disabled the menus and just use the Now screen. It's annoying 'cos I used it extensively on my Wizard.
One of the other problems is that when using Mobile Shell with SPB Diary, quite a lot of the screen is used up so only a days worth of appointments is usually shown.
Adey
Still sound issue
Hi there guys. I also had the issue with the sound. Has since uninstalled Spb shell and done a hard reset but sound issue remains. Any help please?
I have the T-mobile ROM with WM5 on. Do any of you have WM6 and where to get it?
Superdawie said:
Hi there guys. I also had the issue with the sound. Has since uninstalled Spb shell and done a hard reset but sound issue remains. Any help please?
I have the T-mobile ROM with WM5 on. Do any of you have WM6 and where to get it?
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this must be the 7th or 8th times i have answer this question......NO, THERE IS NO WM6 YET, it will be out in about 2 months.
If you have done the hard-reset and haven't install any program, and your sound doesn't work, then this is something serious and might not due to SPB shell.
so, spb shell is NOT working on x7500, right?
di2307 said:
so, spb shell is NOT working on x7500, right?
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you can still use the today plug in, but the spb menu won't work
The potrait still wok, but the landscape didn't.
I know it's been mentioned before regarding an incompatibility between SPB Mobile 1.0 and the Ameo, but I thought that this might have been rectified by 1.5.. unfortunately not...
Unless I'm missing a trick that someone else has worked out...??
The application works okay for a while but if I fiddle with the NOW screen too much I end up muting the phone's speaker, regardless on the volume setting... has anyone worked out a way around this?
Also, it has the same glitch that Pocket Plus has where occasionally, but more often than not, if loaded and you soft-reset the device, the device will go into a crazed loop, showing the boot screens, then flashing the today screen (blank) then repeating the boot screens and so on....
jmdrizen said:
I know it's been mentioned before regarding an incompatibility between SPB Mobile 1.0 and the Ameo, but I thought that this might have been rectified by 1.5.. unfortunately not...
Unless I'm missing a trick that someone else has worked out...??
The application works okay for a while but if I fiddle with the NOW screen too much I end up muting the phone's speaker, regardless on the volume setting... has anyone worked out a way around this?
Also, it has the same glitch that Pocket Plus has where occasionally, but more often than not, if loaded and you soft-reset the device, the device will go into a crazed loop, showing the boot screens, then flashing the today screen (blank) then repeating the boot screens and so on....
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That's the exact reason I uninstalled it from 3 devices we have in the family. Not worth purchasing until issues fully resolved.
i have it in spb pocket plus
no probleme over all
i think that there's some problem (i see it when using profiles)
but i don't know if it's spb phone suite that makes it
my X7500 is stable, but i have tu reset it some time ( it freezes using it in differrent cases), but i don't know if it is the x7500 rom or any of my installed software
over all it's like all pocket pc i had , it run very very good at star with no program instaled, then the program you instal, the less stable and slower it become
but what to do ? instal or not instal programs ?
axle7517 said:
i have it in spb pocket plus
no probleme over all
i think that there's some problem (i see it when using profiles)
but i don't know if it's spb phone suite that makes it
my X7500 is stable, but i have tu reset it some time ( it freezes using it in differrent cases), but i don't know if it is the x7500 rom or any of my installed software
over all it's like all pocket pc i had , it run very very good at star with no program instaled, then the program you instal, the less stable and slower it become
but what to do ? instal or not instal programs ?
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Whether you install them or not depends on how valuable the software is to you. To me I would like to have it on there, but I work shifts and sometimes need to get up early hours, without sound on my device I wouldn't hear the alarms.... so can't risk it :-(
"Get an alarm clock"... why should I? It's a feature on the phone, don't buy an all singing all dancing phone then tell it to stop singing :-D
Ive been late for work once because my phone crashed.
I avoid anything that could cause problems on it now!
I agree, you get something that can do everything so you can use it for everything! I like being able to set different alarms on different days, with different sounds etc. Not many alarm clocks are that configurable.
"I agree, you get something that can do everything so you can use it for everything!
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exactly !!
and X7500 is clearly not very stable (but is it rom or instaled programmes that makes it unstable?)
i had one time the same probleme, with no reason (the x7500 was sleeping in the hall) it freeze/crash at 23h59 !!
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for chance i had no important appointment this morning !!
so from this day i close all programs , and just let spb alarm
no probleme then
but it's crazy we've got the best device that exists and we can not trust it !!!
talking about spb phone suite, for myself i find it very usefull
(excuse my bad english)
regards
the problem is SPB PLus
resets all the time in a loop
untill I have removed it
BYE BYE SPB
Ronv said:
the problem is SPB PLus
resets all the time in a loop
untill I have removed it
BYE BYE SPB
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Unfortuantely it's not just SPB Plus, it's also Mobile and a few others in their suite :-(
I have lots of programs installed, but NO today plugins etc. No spb apps, no launchers or Wizbars etc.
Its totally stable like this. It DOES NOT crash.
When I start adding today apps and stuff it starts to crash, even when I started the HTCHomePlug app, the phone kept crashing. Turning that off fixed it.
hard reset, dont install anything, its totally stable.
Pyrofer said:
I have lots of programs installed, but NO today plugins etc. No spb apps, no launchers or Wizbars etc.
Its totally stable like this. It DOES NOT crash.
When I start adding today apps and stuff it starts to crash, even when I started the HTCHomePlug app, the phone kept crashing. Turning that off fixed it.
hard reset, dont install anything, its totally stable.
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I agree with you 100%
Ronv said:
I agree with you 100%
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Yeah, that's true, but I got the item to use it... to me that's like buying a computer, and not installing any applications on it. If I wanted a phone that just called and text I'd get a Nokia. I enjoy the software, and till they produce a more stable ROM will continue to play Russian Roulette PPC style :-D
jmdrizen said:
Yeah, that's true, but I got the item to use it... to me that's like buying a computer, and not installing any applications on it. If I wanted a phone that just called and text I'd get a Nokia. I enjoy the software, and till they produce a more stable ROM will continue to play Russian Roulette PPC style :-D
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i agree with you at 200%
you just said everything that is needing to say about pocket pc
great, thank
I didnt say dont install apps! I install apps on my PPC and PC, they both work.
What I dont do is install hacks that change major operating system features. Like third party skin/launchers ala Wisbar Advance etc.
Im not knocking WA or its ilk, I just think when you start hacking into the os in that way you are bound to sacrifice stability. There is no was the coders can know everything they need to about Windows, MS just wont let them.
If its important to have your phone working 100%, be carefull what you install, same as with a PC. If its THAT important, then by all means get a nokia and a separate PPC.
If your happy with the fact it will crash randomly, then thats fine too.
I mainly brought this up to point out to all the people knocking WM5 and MS for the Windows Mobile OS, its not their fault! its the third party apps making it unstable. The rom, as shipped is solid.
Pyrofer said:
The rom, as shipped is solid.
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Sorry, but I disagree with this point.
I have had several models of most of T-Mobiles MDA range and two of the Ameo. I've had to return Compact III handsets, which just have factory settings due to ROM stability issues, mainly a crash loop.
You rarely get a ROM that is 100% stable, especially from a UK network provider, due to the provider hitting the point that you quiet rightly stressed, by them adding their third party settings, applications and tweaks.
Most providers want to brand the phone with their identity, which causes instabilities, but these edits are on the shipped ROM release, not something which the typical end user can modify. Bringing me back to my point, the ROM as shipped, is not always great in itself either.
Ronv said:
the problem is SPB PLus
resets all the time in a loop
untill I have removed it
BYE BYE SPB
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Ha ha, this goes to show how wierd things could become.
I do not have this problem with SPB plus. It works wonderfully. It has not even once reset in a loop. Stange?? However, when I tried SPB mobile, it did caused very strange behaviour, and I uninstalled it immediately.
I use SPB plus with magic button and they complement each other very nicely. SPB plus lets me lauch all applications from today screen. Once launched, magic button let it stay on the task bar, and I simply click on the task bar to switch between application. It is very stable. I have about 30 different applications installed in my device. All very stable. No issue with SPB pocket plus and can't live without it.