My company got 800 of these little gems from Vodafone, and loaded up some software from Broadbeam (now MobileAware) that is supposed to let us stay in contact with our offices no matter where we are on the planet.
It was a good idea, but was implemented poorly: roaming coverage had/has huge holes, and the little bricks were beyond the mental capabilities of many they were issued to. Some of those guys need directions operating a light switch, so you can imagine what they are like with a PDA.
Anyway, while on a 3 day layover in Melbourne in March, sitting in sight of a cell tower, I couldn't connect. That's when I discovered XDA Developers.
I spent 2 days reading, and reading, heeding Pof's advice, and finally got the nerve to flash a radio rom, going from 1.03 to 1.27. And I connected right away.
After that, I became a frequent flasher right away. It just gets simpler all the time, thanks to some hard work by the guys cooking roms (Dutty, jasjamming, Des and others), and people like Pof and MrVanx who put together excellent guides. I flashed some of the early versions of WM6, but they didn't work with our company software, so I learned how to downgrade. It wasn't always easy, some times the Hermes would freeze, but it was remedied by reading some more, and reflashing the Radio Rom.
And finally, jasjamming got Black 3.01 out, and for me, it worked like a charm. Quick as a fox, and even ran the lame company wares.
And yet, with all the reading I was doing, and seeing all the admonitions by the moderators to other noobies like me, some people just seem to want someone else to fix their little issues. Sending messages to the guys cooking ROMs, asking questions like "why doesn't my girflriend answer on the first ring since I flashed", or "Why is my battery life so bad when I have the phone, wifi, and bluetooth on"? There are places here in XDA Developers for questions like that, if you really feel you must ask. It's just not in with all the cutting edge discussions.
So, one of the best cookers has been driven away, and its a damn shame. I'm sincerely hoping that this forum and wiki will be a source of solutions and new programs for a very long time.
jasjamming, I'm scheduled to be back in in Melbourne for 3 days around the 23rd. If you see this, it would be my great pleasure to buy you all the Crown Lager you can handle. It would my way of thanking you and by proxy, all the others who have done so much work.
I'd like to also reiterate what GreatGrey has said. Many thanks to all the cookers and experts on here. I know I haven't really posted anything on here before, but that's because I never felt I had anything of value to write. However I have spent many an hour, reading and digesting the information on here, and thanks to the information on here, i have been able to make the most out of my jasjam. (and it's good to know that one of the great cookers was from Melbourne - best city in Australia - OK, maybe i'm a little biased on that comment )
What a great thread
It is a shame to see where things are heading, and I admit, despite trying other ROMs, that I end up defaulting to JJ's Black ROMs because he's a local boy (i too am from Melbourne) and his support for the Telstra network is a welcome addition.
To echo above, I havn't posted that much either, but I am the type to "read lots, speak once"
So, for what its worth, thanks for what you have given us so far JJ, the courage, the roms and the fantastic attitude
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I would personally like to sarcasticly thank all of the noobs that did not take the time to carefully read steps they should take to cid unlock their phone and/or flash cooked roms. I would also like to thank the noobs who joined in the past two weeks that flooded the board with useless threads about commonly known and answered problems. thabk you for not searching. it is because of you guys bricking your phones and calling up your carriers to replace your device that should not have been tampered with in the first place. thank you for causing so much uproar that it got microsoft, htc, and carrier's attention. you guys are the greatest. we will no longer have to worry about the convience of downloading roms from the ftp. now we can roll our sleeves up and search for the roms. good going guys! please continue to post links so that microsoft and others can further complain and send ultimatums until xda-devlopers close for good. having a forum to discuss problems that microsoft or carriers don't address is to easy. we should all try to have some patience and wait on microsoft to release fixes and patches. even though they already got our money, as did carrier x, and as did htc... we should have faith that they will put priority of existing customers over selling new devices.
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speak on it hiimcliff! well its a sad day for us nerds but we can only go up from here maybe once things cool off and the db here is cleaned up roms will be back.. if not theres always other means of getting them and just talking bout bugs here
long live xdadev
True that hiimcliff ! I couldn't have said it any better.
Well said
Well said hiimcliff
I was particularly disappointed to hear it was specifically Wizard owners who had been the primary cause :-(
All down hill from here
Lewis
Its just going to be harder from now on. But it wont stop. I like my phone thanks to this site.
i rest my case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294316
Spot on!
hiimcliff said:
i rest my case
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294316
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hahahaha that's well funny! Seriously though, Himcliff, ur exactly right, I'M 15 YEARS OLD and with NO thanks to my parents, i'm now running the Faria aku 3.3 rom, i didn't brick my phone thru CID unlocking my XDA or installing the rom. Nor did i brick my MPx200 putting on WM5
Excellent piece although I do wonder why there was a time lag between the event and your post!!! Maybe you were like me and realized that a ROM that you wanted can no longer be accessed on the FTP which results in frustration, anger etc. The main functionality of the site will always be to provide a platform for us to discuss various issues and I don't think that will change however if we cannot easily access reliable new ROM's we will not be able to upgrade the phone and therfore will loose the envirnoment that spawns new questions /ideas /direction. Unfortunetly the outcome of this action will result in a poorer product being offered to general public.
Good piece, it has reawakened my disgust at the whole scenario.
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hahahaha that's well funny! Seriously though, Himcliff, ur exactly right, I'M 15 YEARS OLD and with NO thanks to my parents, i'm now running the Faria aku 3.3 rom, i didn't brick my phone thru CID unlocking my XDA or installing the rom. Nor did i brick my MPx200 putting on WM5
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heh, don't be so hard on your parents, without them you wouldn't be...
--M
Glad you had a good experience with the ROMs, you must have read and searched
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
spoke too soon i guess the terminology, u got a fully fledged working liberated rom for gps, and its a good edition, we have to continue to talk even if no result appears so we can show the honored developers that we are still egger for what ever they are finding so they continue to develope, otherwise they will think theretime is just lost for bunsh of ghosts, if you look at my post onto ways of using ur shift so u can make it more intersting untill that time where u its completly unlocked, i think september is going to be the best month for shift full of good news and following to that xmass time where the big bomb phone being enabled am not ofcourse basing this on any finding nor i have contacted Nostradamos lately , its how i wish things to go
(1) And what did you contribute?
pcangel said:
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
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[2] Do you have better ideas to help this out?
I do not contribute, since I do not know anything of programming, but at least, read and support the work of many, many people, which do it for free. However, one of the things I will never do is demand anything here, only wait patiently.
Since I bought my Tytn two years ago, one of the reasons I bought the Shift (and very soon the Diamond) was the existence of "xda-developers" and the people which is in here.
Please, be more sensible to all of us: read the forum if you like, take and use the software which suits to you, but never, never demand anything here. The only thing you can do is to be grateful to all those unknown people which make possible the existence of this site.
José.
villalain said:
I do not contribute, since I do not know anything of programming, but at least, read and support the work of many, many people, which do it for free. However, one of the things I will never do is demand anything here, only wait patiently.
Since I bought my Tytn two years ago, one of the reasons I bought the Shift (and very soon the Diamond) was the existence of "xda-developers" and the people which is in here.
Please, be more sensible to all of us: read the forum if you like, take and use the software which suits to you, but never, never demand anything here. The only thing you can do is to be grateful to all those unknown people which make possible the existence of this site.
José.
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i agree 100% with you am a user of windows based mobile since 2003 and i still use it because of this forum, it always made any phone i buy worth 4 or 5 times more than its reall value, even the shift now if it coasts 1400
i would say my return value is like that
600 for vista laptop side
300 for winmo side
the remainder is what this site will give me and guess what after 1 year from today the value will be another 900 dollars which is more than the original value where you have bought this phone at
pcangel said:
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
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Firstly, take your caps lock off, it means youre shouting!
Secondly, I have owned a Shift since the day it was released in the UK. these forums have been invaluable to me personally. Using the forums I have: -
Liberated my Shift
Dual Booting my shift with XP
Solved a Wi-fi problem
Taken advice on the dissapearing SD card issues
And will be trying the new ROM
How can you possibly say its a waste of time. Its comments like yours (which are obviously written in anger) that really annoy me. I am not a programmer so I cannot assist with ROMs etc, but I check this forum everyday and I am thankful the guys/gals at XDA-Developers keep this site up and running for FREE for the likes of you and me.
I suggest you get off your high horse and apologise. If it wasnt for the likes of Cmonex, Prof and Febelus (who worked so hard finding XP drivers) sites like XDA-Developers would not exist, then we'd all have to work a lot harder to make our devices more usuable.
pcangel said:
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
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Please if you do not like it think that no one forced you to join.
respect the effort of all the members.
if you cant find anything usefull then try harder to find it, myself I found a lot of things here.
regards
and keep your voice down.
pcangel said:
HELLO
EVERY DAY SINCE THE ISSUED OF THIS FORUM ----I CHECK IF THERE IS A NEW THING APART FROM HOW TO LIBERATE THE SHIFT AND THERE IS NOTHING
ALOT OF WRITING AND TALKING AND ALOT OF POSTS WICH IS USELES ^_*
NO BODY CN FIGURE OUT ANY NEW THING
NO GPS, SD , RAM ,HD , BLUETOOTH , EVEN THERE IS NO GOOD SOFTWARES FOR UMPC
ALOT OF ROOMS WICH NOT WORKING
IT IS A WASTING TIME FORUM
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If you dont submit anything and only like to take you have no right to say anything .
I dont know how to program and therefore Iam very happy with this site it helps me a lot there is a answer here for most problems and there are people here dedicating a lot of there spare time to help us and I suppose themself out . we should salute them not attack them .
There is ofcourse a better solution please stay of this site or keep silent.
Agree with everyone's comments - firstly, please respect the work that has already taken place...it is not insiginificant as you would have us all think. Secondly, liek me you propbably cannot contribute to code work, but you CAN contribute support by discussing experiences no matter how small.
Communities are about sharing, not sitting back waiting for those doing the work to deliver rewards at your feet...wake up...
I guess the most obvious statement would be :
" When you bought the Shift, didnt you know about all its limitations
or do you just want to mooch of contributions to this forum? "
i am so tired of people who buy their devices, expecting the members
of this forum to turn them in to marbels of technology.
I bought the shift because I thought it would be useful for me, and it is.
Any modification, hint or advice from the people here and any contribution
i can make, are god given.
Thank you all for the hard work guys and girls...
Well said!
aquasesh said:
I guess the most obvious statement would be :
" When you bought the Shift, didnt you know about all its limitations
or do you just want to mooch of contributions to this forum? "
i am so tired of people who buy their devices, expecting the members
of this forum to turn them in to marbels of technology.
I bought the shift because I thought it would be useful for me, and it is.
Any modification, hint or advice from the people here and any contribution
i can make, are god given.
Thank you all for the hard work guys and girls...
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aquasesh
You are right. I come here regularly, so that I could learn something and make my devices for better usage by extending and expanding their capabilities. This forum is more educative than anything else. Sometimes you have to wait for a better result. This is not a paid forum or support. Everyone here is putting their free cycles and making these devices more powerful and useful. the more you wait, the more you learn. Majority of times it takes a lot of time, because it is step by step advancement not a single day work, because most of us have to learn and understand device architecture and remove barriers; even a human's birth takes well more than 9 months and patience. There will be people like pcAngel, who would want everything right immediately, well then, they should not buy Shift.
Thank you very much to everyone, who is contributing to make our devices powerful.
My 2 cents
Ram
I find myself as a long time lurker needing to come out from under my rock and finally comment about this quite stereotypical noob troll. From his utterly 733tspeak, caps lock pounding, noob troll bleat we can determine that he most likely is the quintessential internet tough guy that can not afford one of these devices unless he steals it. I am in awe the moron here can find something on the internet other then 2girls1cup and his hand on his snake. That being said, after powering through his 12 year old fresh on a post board rant, I am still lost as to what if anything this troll wants to express other then the " I am entitled to it because I [email protected]#$ing say so" post of the ignorant. That being said I am curious, junior, whether your 12 year old idiot ass, understands what goes into reverse engineering a device ROM and then building a custom built ROM? Please let us know so we can add you to the project.
Jackass...
Well..........
I agree with saiweb, worldpcdude and aquasesh....
What if anything has pcangel contributed? You show your complete ignorance of the device by basically missing the point of XDA altogether...
The likes of pof / thaihugo / cmonex etc that have made invaluable progress for us all in regards to the shift's functionality should be respected and appreciated...
Yes many of us would like things faster but if you can't add to the collective through your own abilities at least have the common courtesy of not showing you complete lack of intelligence by your ill advised, impolite initial post...
If you have nothing constructive to say, spare US ALL (yes I shouted that) your indignant rant and just say NOTHING AT ALL...
Any basic research into the shift would have provided you an understanding of what it would do and where it's shortcomings were and many of us bought a shift (I was one of the first in the UK to have one) with this acceptance...
XDA has shown over many years they are masters at making a device do what it was never designed to / intended to do, and we have all been the better for it.... We need more people like the XDA developers and LESS PEOPLE LIKE YOU...
Blitzspear
Men of Little Faith.......
Someone please inform this fellow that XDA Developers is not a government department. Deep down I have a feeling that the guy never meant what was stated. My gut feeling is that his is bad case of a stale joke. So let us all laugh off the joke and live happily ever after......
I hate cowards. The fellow started this thread and vanished. If he/she/it is serious about the nasty comments why not post a response in defence of his position. He is the type that start bar brawls and quietly slip out while jaws are being broken.
Most of us bought our Shifts with full knowledge of its limitations. We all know the hardware is fantastic but the problem is the supplied software. Its like hTC merely built for us a very nice house but supplied crap furniture. And someone is working on the best formula to get us the perfect furniture for our beautiful house. Can anybody in their right mind start abusing the person who is working on a formula to supply the furniture for free??????
I bet this guy has never made similar rants against hTC. Yet he has the audacity to insult the guys who are working to make the Shift the device that we all yearn for. Methinks the fellow should be bumped off the forum!
Men of little faith!!!!
PlayStation said:
Someone please inform this fellow that XDA Developers is not a government department. Deep down I have a feeling that the guy never meant what was stated. My gut feeling is that his is bad case of a stale joke. So let us all laugh off the joke and live happily ever after......
I hate cowards. The fellow started this thread and vanished. If he/she/it is serious about the nasty comments why not post a response in defence of his position. He is the type that start bar brawls and quietly slip out while jaws are being broken.
Most of us bought our Shifts with full knowledge of its limitations. We all know the hardware is fantastic but the problem is the supplied software. Its like hTC merely built for us a very nice house but supplied crap furniture. And someone is working on the best formula to get us the perfect furniture for our beautiful house. Can anybody in their right mind start abusing the person who is working on a formula to supply the furniture for free??????
I bet this guy has never made similar rants against hTC. Yet he has the audacity to insult the guys who are working to make the Shift the device that we all yearn for. Methinks the fellow should be bumped off the forum!
Men of little faith!!!!
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Just one word for you
THANK YOU *10000000000000
NB: ALSO CAPS ON
pcangel said:
Just one word for you
THANK YOU *10000000000000
NB: ALSO CAPS ON
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That's two words.... if not more.
...the forum done a lot for me.
My Shift changed from useless to useful.
OK, the development is a bit slow, but there are people who do their work on a free base.
Many thanks to them!!!!
pcangel said:
Just one word for you
THANK YOU *10000000000000
NB: ALSO CAPS ON
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LMAO
dude, evidently you didn't read the post, or you might have noticed that he called you for what you are... A Troll.
well....... again..........
Whilst it never gets old insulting a 'troll' could a mod lock this thread or even delete it please.
Blitz
I have been a lurker of these forums since getting my first HTC device, a Trinity and have really enjoyed the selfless work of a number of amateur developers, which have transformed my devices.
HOWEVER, the Blackstone threads of late seem to be full of people wanting, even demanding cabs for this, cabs for that but are not prepared to put in even the littlest bit of hard work themselves. Does no one use the search facility any more? Even when someone provides a cab, they are never good enough and are inevitably followed by "great cab, but I want it to do this!". If it's not good enough for you, do it yourself!
For example, every other thread at the moment seems to be demanding cabs for the new TF3D and getting annoyed when someone doesn't produce them within seconds of posting! If you want the new look now, flash Dutty's ROM or at least give people a chance to actually do some development work which takes time. Some people need to develop some patience and need to calm down a bit (me included )
Come on guys and gals - let's not hassle our beloved developers into rushing into putting things out before they are really ready and then finding people are complaining about them. If it carries on, I can see some taking their work elsewhere
I apologise if I have offended anyone with this rant, but felt it was something I needed to get off my chest.
Hey, i'm an iPAQ 210/2xx owner. Flar suggested i throw this thread over here for you geniuses.
There's lots of interest in a new ROM for the 210 since it has VERY capable hardware (pxa 310, 128RAM, 256ROM) but very bad firmware. Unit sucks, could become great: it's like a handicap driving a Ferrari... a bad idea. I already have a throw-together kitchen from a certain xda member, looking for people with know-how to use it. I'm NOT one of those people.
This thing comes with 6.0 Classic, and it is soooo slow. The consensus is that either 6.1 or 6.5 needs to be ported onto this, along with some reg tinkering too... but that will come after porting has occurred i assume.
I/we really need the help, and although no there's real promise of money (since when is cooking a paid job?), there would be TONS of donations for a fast and stable rom. I can almost guarantee that part. I'd dish a handsome amount myself. HP has given up support in first 6 months of release, so new ROMs are the only hope for the machine.
Anyways, i'm looking for people to help out. I/we would love to employ your skills; it will likely be the fellow iPAQ users here that can assist. I can update you or hook you up with the smarter 210/2xx users so you can get the full scoop. Please PM me on xda, and one of the "home bases" for the device is Brighthand.com's iPAQ 210 forum. Look forward to ANY BIT OF HELP you people can offer. This really requires lots of knowhow since (apparently) deliberate attempts have been made in the design to prevent flashing easily. Thanks for considering the task! And if you want to help, make sure you have a paypal account.
Dave
P.S. There are a few people (like me) who are willing to sacrifice their devices if needed. Peace.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387232&page=8
Sorry to disappoint, but that xda member is actually a Brighthand member who has been steadily trying to figure out the not-so-successful flashing portion of the project. Plus he doesn't have a kitchen except the throw-together one. It is made up of a 6828 kitchen but needs some retrofitting for VGA. So nope, unfortunately, not much progress.
If you can help, let me know, and i'll brief you on the deal. Peace!
Bump. Like 100 ppl have checked this thread, but no help. Give me anything, dudes. We really need some devs here.
Bump!!!! Guys i don't want to be bugging anyone, but there are BOTH htc AND hp devs on here. We need some propagation on this mission. Thx again.
So, mods, this project has been figured out. The ipaq 210 now has 6.1 and 6.5 which can be flashed, and this can be found on the 210 forum at Brighthand.com. Great work being done over there, and some amateur chefs with a lot of patience. possibly one guy from xda helping too i think.
So do what you wish to this thread. Thank you.
and just a note...
all too often do i get the impression that the big-wig xda chefs are sitting on some enormous throne, and we "petty" users must bow down to your acquired divinity. It's annoying. very annoying. after 250 hits on this thread, only one guy took the time to give me the link to an already dead-end thread, and that's it. but i'm sure you guys are busy installing lasers on your Magic's and your Vogue's, or developing uber-important apps like a nudy-background. wow. amazing. bunch o geniuses.
I would have at least appreciated this chain of events:
Randomxdaperson: PM to friend who remotely knows anything about ipaq, asks if able to help random person.
...(total of 3 mins, fifty key strokes, two krispy kremes).
FriendOfxdaperson: responds to PM, says either yes can help or no but maybe this guy/gal can help instead... (total 1 min, twenty key strokes, can of mom's pepsi in fridge).
Randomxdaperson: sends PM to new lead, so copy and paste old message to new lead... (30 sec, four buttons, two mouse clicks, two bowls of dad's Fruit Loops).
Guywhocanpossiblyhelp: replies to PM saying can't help, and no ideas, says sorry and good luck... (40 sec, forty strokes, wiping face in little brother's sock from ravioli).
Randomxdaperson: comes to this thread, says "sorry i tried but no luck. good luck. i care about more than just myself".
Obviously very difficult to perform. but alas, nothing precipitates. thanks guys. and seriously, i'm sure i'll hear more comments about how HP sucks and how i'm a newb or something, which is more effort than the total that had been previously put forth on this topic.
I'm kind of ashamed of this site. people are becoming increasingly correct when they joke about the illegitimacy, rudeness, and selfishness of this site. too bad, because this site is supposed to be a good community. Flar and the mods work hard, and the lower-level guys are always willing to TRY and give help, but most of the bigger guys are trying to help each other ONLY. the progress of the ENTIRE site depends on global help.
My bitterness is from a lack of response in MANY people's topics, not just my own. I've only made one thread. but i read lots. and the devs hardly care about anything outside of binary. so why don't you 01101010 01110101 01101101 01110000 00100000 01101111 01100110 01100110 00100000 01100001 00100000 01100010 01110010 01101001 01100100 01100111 01100101. grrrrrr. whatever, i suppose. maybe people need to change their attitudes. or maybe i've been seriously mistaken and this site is filled with wonderful devs who care. just my experience.
Frustrated,
Dave
Stop Crying and Help
I am assuming you own a 210. LOL. I doubt the virtual Tantrum you just through is going to attract many chefs to help you. (You, which also includes the rest of us who have been waiting for an upgrade to our device) I would recommend that you login over at Brighthand and test one of there ROMS, they are working on.
Another thing everyone can do is DONATE. One of the guys working on this project doesnt even own a 210. (I dont know if that is by choice or not) One thing I do know, donating to a developer is about the only way of showing sincere appreciation and respect for their time, talent and hard work they put into these projects, so people like myself(not so gifted and talented!) are able to use their brilliant creations. But I am sure you have already donated. Here are sone screenshots of 6.5.
Sunday
I can't resist!!
davethebossman said:
So, mods, this project has been figured out. The ipaq 210 now has 6.1 and 6.5 which can be flashed, and this can be found on the 210 forum at Brighthand.com. Great work being done over there, and some amateur chefs with a lot of patience. possibly one guy from xda helping too i think.
So do what you wish to this thread. Thank you.
and just a note...
all too often do i get the impression that the big-wig xda chefs are sitting on some enormous throne, and we "petty" users must bow down to your acquired divinity. It's annoying. very annoying. after 250 hits on this thread, only one guy took the time to give me the link to an already dead-end thread, and that's it. but i'm sure you guys are busy installing lasers on your Magic's and your Vogue's, or developing uber-important apps like a nudy-background. wow. amazing. bunch o geniuses.
I would have at least appreciated this chain of events:
Randomxdaperson: PM to friend who remotely knows anything about ipaq, asks if able to help random person.
...(total of 3 mins, fifty key strokes, two krispy kremes).
FriendOfxdaperson: responds to PM, says either yes can help or no but maybe this guy/gal can help instead... (total 1 min, twenty key strokes, can of mom's pepsi in fridge).
Randomxdaperson: sends PM to new lead, so copy and paste old message to new lead... (30 sec, four buttons, two mouse clicks, two bowls of dad's Fruit Loops).
Guywhocanpossiblyhelp: replies to PM saying can't help, and no ideas, says sorry and good luck... (40 sec, forty strokes, wiping face in little brother's sock from ravioli).
Randomxdaperson: comes to this thread, says "sorry i tried but no luck. good luck. i care about more than just myself".
Obviously very difficult to perform. but alas, nothing precipitates. thanks guys. and seriously, i'm sure i'll hear more comments about how HP sucks and how i'm a newb or something, which is more effort than the total that had been previously put forth on this topic.
I'm kind of ashamed of this site. people are becoming increasingly correct when they joke about the illegitimacy, rudeness, and selfishness of this site. too bad, because this site is supposed to be a good community. Flar and the mods work hard, and the lower-level guys are always willing to TRY and give help, but most of the bigger guys are trying to help each other ONLY. the progress of the ENTIRE site depends on global help.
My bitterness is from a lack of response in MANY people's topics, not just my own. I've only made one thread. but i read lots. and the devs hardly care about anything outside of binary. so why don't you 01101010 01110101 01101101 01110000 00100000 01101111 01100110 01100110 00100000 01100001 00100000 01100010 01110010 01101001 01100100 01100111 01100101. grrrrrr. whatever, i suppose. maybe people need to change their attitudes. or maybe i've been seriously mistaken and this site is filled with wonderful devs who care. just my experience.
Frustrated,
Dave
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So, Frustrated Dave, you think "maybe people need to change their attitudes. or maybe i've been seriously mistaken and this site is filled with wonderful devs who care. just my experience."-Frustrated,Dave?????????
Are you kidding me? Did you reread your post? It is MY experiece that this sight IS filed with with wonderful devs who care, and maybe YOU need to change YOUR attitude.
I really hope you are right. And because of people like globalbus and elektrownik over on BH forums, we've got some great new ROMs for the 210. globalbus doesn't even own a 210 and he still gave us a ton of awesome ROMs, and elektrownik basically had to learn cooking and modding from scratch. I was constantly gleaning xda in an effort to collect helpers and teachers for them (i know i don't have the skills to help them so i tried to find ones who did) but only one person (ariey) from xda ended up helping.
So that's what i mean. I'm upset because i feel bad for the time and effort that BH members spent learning from ground zero, and that time length could've been drastically reduced if more people here expressed the slightest interest in assisting them. I don't feel wronged for my own sake; i'm not that petty, even thought someone might want to suggest otherwise. So as i say, i hope you're right.
Dave
Everytime I google anything regarding my HD2 it brings me to this forum, which I know is predominantly for developers, but says a lot about the genuine customer service teams, whether it be manufacturers or service providers. So thanks!
I don't understand most of the processes or jargon used here, but got some good guidance from Wacky Bannana, who has shown me where to look for answers as opposed to telling me them, which has helped me get to grips with a lot of the terms I would never have known.
<b>Using the sticky thread Walkthroughs and videos, I've just finished adding hspl and updating my ROM.</b> Extemely pleased with myself right now, even though it's simple.
I was somewhat put off initially, after reading so may complaints about sms bugs, dodgy camera, the fact the US is getting better specs etc and people wanting to move to Apple or Google, but sod it, <b>it's been fun learning all this and a bit of patience and appreciation for everyone's hardwork, and I can look forward to building on what is already a great phone.</b> I'd hate to end up like my David Brentesque boss who answers every question by pulling out his Iphone and saying, "I've got an app for that!"
Laugh it up dickhead, I can run two things at once.
Cheers
hello,
strangely enough i popped my rom updating cherry tonight too. i imagine this is probably not the right place to do it but i just wanted to thank all of you for all the help you provide here. i was dazed and confused and like harris everytime i googled something i would be led right back here.
i have a t-mobile phone with its silly restrictions and lazy software. since updating roms, if i didn't love my phone before now i want to have its child.
i'm incredibly grateful for the assistance. much more to search through - next step registry editor. thanks again everyone and apologies for my maiden post most likely being in the wrong spot.