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Why is A2DP so f'ed up?

Dont get me wrong, I'm loving the fact that we have A2DP when we shouldn't (thanks Microsoft :twisted: ) but I've read and reread every single thread about A2DP on the Prophet and I still can't get it to work the way it should.
Here's what i have: a Qtek S200 updated to the latest WWE Dopod ROM, with A2DP patch installed, and paired to a Bluetake I-Phono Mini (BT450Rx). I get both handsfree and stereo profiles as an option, and both work to a certain degree.
But here's the catch: I tried all the music players out there, and none even approaches a decent level of use:
- Media Player 10: best so far, but the Play/Pause button isnt working (only FF/REW), and when a call comes through, it answers on the headset, but when I hang up, the music resumes from the speaker of the Prophet and not the headset.
- Pocket Music: very buggy, skips a lot, and the AVRCP controls dont work.
- TCPMP: sound is fine, porbably the best, but once again, the controls for playback dont work.
Am I doing everything wrong, or is there really no way to get at least one of these to work?
Any thoughts/remarks/info etc would be appreciated.
thnaks, TDX

yeah, A2DP is a deal breaker for me, so I'm waiting waiting at this stage...(have yet to buy prophet)

So, no one has found a software combination that actually works?

tdx said:
- Media Player 10: best so far, but the Play/Pause button isnt working (only FF/REW), and when a call comes through, it answers on the headset, but when I hang up, the music resumes from the speaker of the Prophet and not the headset.
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After the call, the music will only resume at the begining of a track.
Therefore, hit your rewind or forward button to resume music.
Even with this, it's still not seamless.

Well, I have an S200 with the A2DP patch working in conjunction with my Plantronics Pulsar 590 Stereo headset and I'm really impressed with its performance. Hi-fi sound under WMP10 and PocketMusic. No skips even without overclocking. Flawless Calls in the middle of my music. Resumes perfectly.
Must be a problem with your headset brand.
Never been so happy with my PDA/Phone.
Best regards...

Rayan said:
Must be a problem with your headset brand.
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I don't think so.
I have the same problems with a Motorola Ht820.
If only some of us have this problem, we probably didn't install the fix properly.

What would be really cool, would be if someone could detail the exact steps needed to install A2Dp on the Prophet, enable AVRCP and get everything to work nicely. I know there have been other threads regarding this, but it's been a while since the patch came out, various people have posted different versions of it, new ROMs came out, so it all gets a little confusing.

It's really simple. I just used the attached file that I found over at i-phone forums. Read the simple instructions.
Best regards,
Rayan

Rayan said:
It's really simple. I just used the attached file that I found over at i-phone forums. Read the simple instructions.
Best regards,
Rayan
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Ah. That's the registry edit method.
I installed mine the simpler way. Maybe the simpler way is not complete.

Thanks for the responses everyone. I actually spent some time and did some extra research/testing. Here's what I've narrowed it down to:
What works:
1. The A2DP works, as far as pairing, handsfree and wireless stereo go.
2. The AVCRP sort of works (only in WMP, othesr software apparently don't support it yet).
What doesn't work:
1. Play/Pause button in WMP. For some reason, FF/REW work, but not Play/Pause.
2. When I answer a phonecall with the BT450 while listening to music, it pauses the music, but when i hang up, the music reverts to the speakerphone (it loses the wireless audio status and i have to pair it again manually).
3. Finally, and I dont know if this is a bug or not, when I turn on the headset, it automatically establishes a wireless handsfree pairing, but not a wireless stereo (music) pairing. I have to go into settings and pair it manually EVERYTIME I want to listen to music. This sucks.
So, anyone else having the same three problems as me? Anyone has solutions to these.
I would be most eternally grateful.

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Rayan said:
It's really simple. I just used the attached file that I found over at i-phone forums. Read the simple instructions.
Best regards,
Rayan
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Ah. That's the registry edit method.
I installed mine the simpler way. Maybe the simpler way is not complete.
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Nope... It's not a manual regedit per se, it's all included on a .cab for easy application and a few other files to put in the Windows directory.
At least for me, it worked flawlessly while paired to my Plantronics gear.

Rayan said:
Well, I have an S200 with the A2DP patch working in conjunction with my Plantronics Pulsar 590 Stereo headset and I'm really impressed with its performance. Hi-fi sound under WMP10 and PocketMusic. No skips even without overclocking. Flawless Calls in the middle of my music. Resumes perfectly.
Must be a problem with your headset brand.
Never been so happy with my PDA/Phone.
Best regards...
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You gotta be joking about HI-FI performance. I have the same headset and when it sounds really good with my ASUS W5A laptop with Toshiba BT stack it doesn't work all that well with Jamin. It sounds like it set to low quality mode. A2DP on Prophet that is.

Nope ID64, no jokes... It really is working for me perfectly even without overclocking.
Have you tried PocketMusic, because Media Player 10 sucks big time in all respects on the Prophet...
Are you sure you are pairing as Wireless Stereo profile? The first time I tried it, I mistakenly selected Hands-free profile and sounded just as you described.
ROM Version: 2.9.7.24 WWE
ROM Date: 2/9/06
Radio: 413.1.03
ExtROM: 2.9.7.106
A2DP Applied

Does PocketMusic have AVRCP controls though?

tdx said:
Does PocketMusic have AVRCP controls though?
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Not sure if it's implemented inside PocketMusic or in the A2DP profile itself but AVRCP do work in PocketMusic without a hitch. The Plantronics Stereo Headset controls work prerfectly, and the PocketMusic fade-out-fade-in feature sounds simply impresive!
Best regards,
Rayan

Radio Playback

Is there any way to control the speaker's treble, bass, etc...? I have an FM radio installed and was just wondering...stock they sound pretty tin-e...
I know they're not performance speakers but just trying to make the best of it..

FM Radio for Wizard
Hi there.
I have been looking for an FM Tadio for South Africa. Which one do you use and is it freeware?
Thanks,
MAC

Am using Resko Radio and it's shareware. You can get a 30 (I think) day user period.

You mean Resco Radio, and that's not FM it's streaming =)

Resco Radio is exactly for internet radio broadcast playing.
Its not an FM radio tuner !!
Any FM tuner available for Wizard ?

Wizzer said:
Is there any way to control the speaker's treble, bass, etc...? I have an FM radio installed and was just wondering...stock they sound pretty tin-e...
I know they're not performance speakers but just trying to make the best of it..
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Hi Wizzer,
The only way you can control Bass and Treble is via a media player like TCPMP, Mortplayer etc where the software provides several equaliser presets. Mortplayer & TCPMP both have a Bass booster option as well.
Resco Radio does not have that option unfortunately.
I am actually looking for an FM tuner that is freeware/shareware at under US$10.
Thanks,
MAC

USB Radio Transmitter

Does anyone know of a Kaiser compatable radio transmitter for the Kaiser so I can use it like an itrip and play my tunes from my kaiser in my car over a radio frequency?

anybody have any experience of this thing:-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/11-Pin-Mini-U...=item150134591006&_trksid=p3286.c33.m20.l1116

Any old usb/headphone splitter will allow you to do this, as the FM transmitter element simply plugs into the 3.5mm headphone jack - FM transmitters are, notoriously, pants though but if its your only option, I would suggest getting your own splitter and then getting a different FM transmitter that has digital tuning, so you can select any frequency, and not be limited to 4.
Something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/200-Frequency...ryZ48680QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

captainsensible2002 said:
Any old usb/headphone splitter will allow you to do this, as the FM transmitter element simply plugs into the 3.5mm headphone jack - FM transmitters are, notoriously, pants though but if its your only option, I would suggest getting your own splitter and then getting a different FM transmitter that has digital tuning, so you can select any frequency, and not be limited to 4.
Something like this:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/200-Frequency...ryZ48680QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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thanks a lot for your help i will do just that!!

You know what I am looking for... I would love to see a Bluetooth FM Transmitter. Then you can just enter your car, and wirelessly play your music through your phone. Anyone know if these even exist? I did a brief google search but it looked like everything was either a car kit for hands free talking or just people wishing they had one kind of like me.

Universal Belkin adapter.
Personally I use the belkin 3.5 inch universal FM transmitter.
the audio quality isnt grand but its very passable.
http://www.thegadgetlocker.com/product_info.php?cPath=218_169_103_110&products_id=2794
I've been using that for my PSP and zune for a while now and i'll be using it
with my kaiser as soon as I get my miniUSB to 3.5 adapter in the mail.
I recomend it.

Say that again...
Hi...
FAO Captainsensible/JPHCCFC or others with experience on this...
I'm wanting to do the same thing but have absolutely no technical knowledge about this kind of thing.
I have a Mk4 VW Golf with the standard VW fit, quad speakers radio.
What products would I need to buy to get my Kaiser playing through the car speakers, and, how would I need to set it up.
Links to the products and detailed advice in plain English welcomed & much appreciated.
TIA.
Regards,
Mark.

Another option would be this, http://www.techlore.com/article/10247/How-To-Play-an-iPod-or-Other-Portable-MP3-Player-Through-a-Car-Stereo/.
I think the quality is better than the FM transmitter.

godfa7h3r said:
You know what I am looking for... I would love to see a Bluetooth FM Transmitter. Then you can just enter your car, and wirelessly play your music through your phone. Anyone know if these even exist? I did a brief google search but it looked like everything was either a car kit for hands free talking or just people wishing they had one kind of like me.
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I use an iTech-clip connected to a cassete player adapter normally for a walkman. Gives me BT stereo music and when clipped to the sunvisor acts as a hands-free automatically cutting off the music when a call comes in.

godfa7h3r said:
You know what I am looking for... I would love to see a Bluetooth FM Transmitter. Then you can just enter your car, and wirelessly play your music through your phone. Anyone know if these even exist? I did a brief google search but it looked like everything was either a car kit for hands free talking or just people wishing they had one kind of like me.
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Ask and you shall receive, a couple of months L8R
http://www.phonemag.com/verizons-a2dp-venturi-mini-is-hands-free-and-fm-transmitter-01244.php

my solutions:
My current solution is a A2DP to 3.5mm dadpter (which as a mic as well).
http://www.bluetomorrow.com/content/section/410/565
(i primarily use the module without the speakers- which can be used with a PC separatly)
my future solution is this A2DP supporting head unit:
http://www.audiojunkies.com/blog/624/new-parrot-rk8200-bluetooth-headunit-can-hide-your-secret-stash

godfa7h3r said:
You know what I am looking for... I would love to see a Bluetooth FM Transmitter. Then you can just enter your car, and wirelessly play your music through your phone. Anyone know if these even exist? I did a brief google search but it looked like everything was either a car kit for hands free talking or just people wishing they had one kind of like me.
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It took me a while to track one down! But I finally did and I just purchased on off ebay... It is from a brand called Scosche. It sells new for US$90.
It functions as a Bluetooth Reciever (for bluetooth devices with Audio Push, such as the Keiser...) and as a hands free. It plugs into the car power, and I understand it has a built in battery for portability. I should be receiving it later next week, I'll update on how it works

Jimmyy said:
It took me a while to track one down! But I finally did and I just purchased on off ebay... It is from a brand called Scosche. It sells new for US$90.
It functions as a Bluetooth Reciever (for bluetooth devices with Audio Push, such as the Keiser...) and as a hands free. It plugs into the car power, and I understand it has a built in battery for portability. I should be receiving it later next week, I'll update on how it works
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you got a link so we can peek?

Motorola came out with their version ( BT & FM transmitter ..etc )
The MOTOROKR T505
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/T505/
also available on ebay for under $100

Venturi
Bronx31 said:
Ask and you shall receive, a couple of months L8R
http://www.phonemag.com/verizons-a2dp-venturi-mini-is-hands-free-and-fm-transmitter-01244.php
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I was one of the first in the states to get the venturi and have been using it for several weeks now. The quality is great and it is the only device I know of that transmits caller ID to the FM radio via RBDS. It is not the cheapest, but only thing i know that transmits FM, charges phone, and does bluetooth calling/stereo. (not to mention it works flawlessly with the Tilt/kaiser)

Hi,
Just saw this on google:
http://www.aftermarketcellular.com/ic/UNIJABRAA120S.html
Most new radios have a plug in the back for external CD or other audio, just connect this and you dont need an FM transmitter.
Good luck...

I have a Monster Icarplay for the ipod. I am wondering if there's any way of modding it to use on my kaiser. I know the ipod connecter is just a modified usb connector - so I am wondering there is some sort of adapter that goes from ipod connecter to regular usb. I don't think I can just snip off the end and solder in a reg. usb because there are controles on the ipod connecter plug. Any thoughts?

UnicornKaz said:
Motorola came out with their version ( BT & FM transmitter ..etc )
The MOTOROKR T505
http://direct.motorola.com/hellomoto/T505/
also available on ebay for under $100
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I'm browsing around trying to decide what unit to purchase. The thing I like about the Motorola is I do not have to plug it into my cigarette lighter (other than for a charge, of course).
But, I had purchased a Motorola speaker phone a couple years ago and the sound quality for the person on the other end was pretty bad. With this sound quality for me as the listener would probably be OK, as it would go through the radio.
Has anyone used one of these yet that can report back?
The positive feedback from Venturi on the Verizon one sounds good.

ewingr said:
I'm browsing around trying to decide what unit to purchase. The thing I like about the Motorola is I do not have to plug it into my cigarette lighter (other than for a charge, of course).
But, I had purchased a Motorola speaker phone a couple years ago and the sound quality for the person on the other end was pretty bad. With this sound quality for me as the listener would probably be OK, as it would go through the radio.
Has anyone used one of these yet that can report back?
The positive feedback from Venturi on the Verizon one sounds good.
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what I want to know is ...
how does it transmit to the FM wirelessly though ???
and if there's another radio nearby happened to be scanning stations ... will it also pick up my private conversation ??
I can understand when this is routed through the cigarette lighter plug ... but wireless ??? and they don't specify the type of FM radio ... so I just assumed any regular car FM stereo ...
anyone for answers ???

Good questions.
It seems to me that it transmits to the FM device via BlueTooth; then the FM device transmits to the radio over FM frequency.
And I assume that if someone in a car nearby (I don't think it will transmit very far) happens to tune the the same FM frequency you are using, that they in fact would pickup your conversations.
I would like to be able to have the bluetooth transmit my stereo to my radio, and if I have on a BT headset, have my conversations go there. But, I'm not sure that is possible.

[Troubleshoot Discussion] SGS FM Radio issues, Stereo fix

Hmmm when I goto the FM radio there is no sound coming through the earphones. Check the volume is up and nothing at all. I have to rescan each time, and that re jogs the sound output through the headphones..
Also the quailty doesnt sound amazing at all, even with technics headphones.
Music player works fine.

dan 6a said:
Hmmm when I goto the FM radio there is no sound coming through the earphones. Check the volume is up and nothing at all. I have to rescan each time, and that re jogs the sound output through the headphones..
Also the quailty doesnt sound amazing at all, even with technics headphones.
Music player works fine.
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When you scroll with your finger to a frequency you have to press stop and then when you set the frequency press play.

Am pretty pleased with the quality myself, all works well, tunes fast, all the RDS data with station name and program info works.

My experience of the radio is that its utter crap. I tested it on a number of strong signal radio stations and all of them come out mono, no stereo from the radio at all.
also the sound quality sounds like a crap speaker sitting in a bean can. hollow sounding rubbish, very surprised that they can make a radio that rubbish these days.
Mp3 player sounds great though, nice clean full sound.

you can listen radio online

I thought I read somewhere that you can listen to the FM radio through the phone loudspeaker instead of the headphones?
If so, how???

You can but you would still need the earphones as they act as an antenna

discophil said:
My experience of the radio is that its utter crap. I tested it on a number of strong signal radio stations and all of them come out mono, no stereo from the radio at all.
also the sound quality sounds like a crap speaker sitting in a bean can. hollow sounding rubbish, very surprised that they can make a radio that rubbish these days.
Mp3 player sounds great though, nice clean full sound.
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I thought I was coming crazy. all the stations sounds in MONO. incredible....

danielherrero said:
... incredible....
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No, SGS .

discophil said:
My experience of the radio is that its utter crap. I tested it on a number of strong signal radio stations and all of them come out mono, no stereo from the radio at all.
also the sound quality sounds like a crap speaker sitting in a bean can. hollow sounding rubbish, very surprised that they can make a radio that rubbish these days.
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Agree, although utter crap is just too positive a description.

fm radio .. what about transmitter
we have an fm radio at least one step up from nexus one..
does anyone know if the chip has the hardware for an fm transmitter.. maybe someone can implement an app for this..
thanks

Fm radio is mono or stereo
Pls help.
My FM Radio is still MONO.
FM Radio on SGS is MONO or STEREO ?
For what is still MONO ?

It's stereo
The headphone that comes in the package is not good, please use any other headphone[I used the iPhone 2G headphone] and the FM radio is "stereo"[I have Galaxy S in India], the FM just need any headphone not necessarily "samsung". Try this, I have tried it and it works as expected!
-Pramod

I'm sorry for the stupid question, but how do I check whether FM is running in MONO mode or STEREO mode on my phone?

I use other headphone - Coss Porta Pro. FM Radio is still MONO.
I use active loudspeaker, still MONO.
Anybody has STEREO FM radio ?
Pls help with this problem.

I have radio playing MONO too in my SGS. It's not much important for me, but I think it's serious bug in Samsung's flagman phone that costs more than 500 $ ...

did you people even read the previous message, the #2 reply?
the FM radio is STEREO you just need to plug in a STEREO head phone for it to work.
in areas of poor reception it might sound like mono, but that happens even if you have a $3000 car stereo, it's not the phone fault for weak FM sources radio station.
in my city there is a channel i really like to listen to 103.5 but the reception is very poor on most FM radio at home/work/car unless you are near the source, which is on the other side of the city.
luckly they have Online streaming, so i listen to them online when my FM radio reception is poor in whever i happen to be at the time.

mine always plays mono...

AllGamer said:
did you people even read the previous message, the #2 reply?
the FM radio is STEREO you just need to plug in a STEREO head phone for it to work.
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The standard head phones are stereo, you don't need other.
Checked with an STEREO TEST MP3.
But my Radio is also always MONO

AllGamer said:
did you people even read the previous message, the #2 reply?
the FM radio is STEREO you just need to plug in a STEREO head phone for it to work.
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Sennheiser CX300 are the mono headphones you think?
I'd plugged many different headphones, sound ALWAYS MONO instead of mp3-player that STEREO. All radiostations in good quality of reception always mono. It's a bug of Samsung...

how to listen FM radio using a bluetooth headset on Android

Hi!
is there a way for that?
Thanks in advance...

You need a wired headset in order to listen to FM radio. the wire will work as antenna.
That's why a BT headset will never work for FM radio.

duke911 said:
You need a wired headset in order to listen to FM radio. the wire will work as antenna
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Only half true. Yes, wire works as antenna, but that doesnt mean that the radio will not get anything AT ALL without it. It's just gonna get like half of the available stations, some a little noisy may be. But it will work still. Especially true in urban areas where the signal is strong.
I speak from experience with my Sony Ericsson T715 which had exactly the same situation - FM radio which will only work if you have the headset plugged in. Turned out, simply changing a certain "1" to "0" in a certain file in the phone memory allowed the radio app to work without the headsets. Mind you, I never tried this hack, for certain reasons, but read more than enough feedbacks of it working.
Will not be surprised if it's simillar case wih HD2, where you just need to change a registry value under WinMo or some config file in Android.

is there somebody out there who can tell me how could I set it on Android...
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

For windows mobile, there is a program called btfm_radio.exe ... Or you can change the registry ... I can do something similar on Android?

the hd2 has an fm radio ???

souljaboy said:
the hd2 has an fm radio ???
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Yes - and it even works..haha

I can't see any useful answer
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

lxxxxxr said:
Hi!
is there a way for that?
Thanks in advance...
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Better Idea.. download TuneInRadio from "market"
It tunes into your local station..

TechnoHippie said:
Yes - and it even works..haha
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lmao !!! i didnt even kno !! does it work on android too ? or is there an app for it ?

there has to be masses willing to pay for this feature. come on developers.
for my situation i listen to my car radio and want any satnav voice instructions to interrupt the radio (just like a call does) and then resume to radio
or if the phone radio is enabled to bluetooth then i can listen to the phones radio over bluetooth and the satnav voice does talk over the radio

BUY a SonyEricsson MW600. It has it's own radio . It's not soo expensive as it was before when HBH-DS980 arrived...

Radio BT headset will just defeat the purpose of long-life battery. I cant find it any useful to charge my BT headset all the time

still looking for an answer :-(

1) Plug the earphones as antenna. It's needed if not you're not be able to receive any signal or will sound as hell.
2) Start the radio program
3) Route the audio to BT (try with a new app on the market named "Super BT Mono" which could route audio to bluetooth mono earpiece)

Thx magnus just perfect
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

leecavturbo said:
Thx magnus just perfect
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Did you find any apps for Android to listen to the build in FM Radio?

hehe, it can be tricky but not directly cuz the cable is an antenna for FM, BT headphone isn't

Curious! said:
hehe, it can be tricky but not directly cuz the cable is an antenna for FM, BT headphone isn't
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Ok, but I am just looking for an app to listen to FM Radio over the wired headset for a start. Any suggestions?

fm radio over blue tooth when using navigation software
So is there a solution?
I also would like to use the phone's fm radio over bluetooth so I can listen to music and have the navigation software interupt it when needed.
An internet radio is not an option. it stops all the time and is very exspensive in foreign countries.