I am new to the forum and if I am wrong here thats fine just correct me. I was looking at the Essential Downloads Thread and saw several nice app's. One that I didn't see is HTC X-Button. It works like MagicButton but smaller and is factory addition. Nice and clean. You can shut it off, set up to end by tapping or by tap and hold "X" I have it and can post it up, or Email if someone wants it.
PS- I have been very impressed with everything I have seen here so far and would like to start playing more with my Wizard. I am very interested in upgrading but I think I need a little more guidance for the frist one.
Thanks, Kevin
Well,
in higher ROMs the X button app is integrated (I am not sure where it started but in my official AKU3.3 german TMO it is in there, my US TMO AKU2.2 did not have it).
If you're happy with your device and it works properly then you wouldn't really have a reason to upgrade - except you want to risk warranty void and a brick in case you do something wrong! Allthough the WIZ is still easy to flash ...
Check out the http://wiki.xda-developers.com site for more information and guides!
Please keep reading... make sure you undestand each step, if you don't read some more... if you tried really hard and can't find your answer, then post your question, and somone will help. After you think you are ready... read some more. Until you are sure you can do it. Learn how to start your phone in Bootloader. Because simple thing like that can save a bad flsh, just in case. When you finally get it unlocked and flashed your first ROM then you will know why so many people, spend so much time here. It can be addictive, like a junkie looking for that perfect HIGH, you will be constantly looking for the perfect ROM!!
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new here would like to know if any one could help me find a program to take out the useless programs on my cingular 8525 and if any one knows how to change the splash screens
thanks
Welcome.
Welcome to the forum. There is alot of useful information here. The first thing is to get to know where and how to use the phone from front to back. You should start by reading the wiki. Everything you would ever want to know is there. As for changing things around on your phone, you should learn about it first. Last thing you would want to do is mess up your phone by not knowing and understanding what your doing. When in doubt dont do anything unless your sure of it. Also use the search button, it will be your best friend in time of need.
Welcome on board bubba433.
nyc_medic's advice is good. Particularly as removing pre-packaged applications from your phone is not as straightforward as it sounds as it requires changes to be made to the extended rom - that's quite a learning curve.
Mike
Hi everyone
I just purchased this phone or pda off ebay and I am going to be signing up with att. Right now I can use it because I have been given 30 day trial. I love it but I am having trouble with some aspects of it. There is so much to know. One of the problems I have had is sending email through ebay. I bougth this to do business. If i try to answer a question through my ebay messages when I push to send the reply message nothing happens. I also try to access tmobile to make a payment and when i enter password and log on it wont log on, the page just sits there. Are there tweak for this. Also on craiglist I tried to post an ad an when I went to post it I got a message that said unable to process request. Any help or suggestion fo my new phone in reagrd to tweaking it will help. I have also noticed that aol messages loads slowly on egde. Are there any tweaks for this. It can take forever. I know I have a lot to lear and this is my first smatphone and I am excited about it but I am also lost. Thanks in advance for any sugestion or help
Mike
Long Island
first thing to do is to start looking at custom Roms, the operating system of your device, and find one that will do what you are looking for.
then if you decide to upgrade, then read this very closely and follow the instruction to the letter,
http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...-unlocking-cid-unlocking-wm6-your-8525-a.html
I am using this one and it works great, it resolved all my issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
the search on these two site are great, BTw welcome onboard .
most of the problems that you mentioned could just be a browser problem, lots of pages dont work the same, but the general consensus is that PIE blows, you might want to try a different browser. opera, and opera mini seems to be very popular. I feel obligated to mention menneisyys' guides on browser which you can find in the wiki (otherwise he's gonna butt in and mention it himself in this thread ).
Thank you so much. I believe I have WM6 on my device Im not sure if it came from att or was downloaded. How would I check to see if WM6 is on my phone. If it is do I go to the next step and install Olipro v7 2.10 I guess this replaces PIE if im right. Im learning but slowly. Thank you again this is helping me tremendously
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most of the problems that you mentioned could just be a browser problem, lots of pages dont work the same, but the general consensus is that PIE blows, you might want to try a different browser. opera, and opera mini seems to be very popular. I feel obligated to mention menneisyys' guides on browser which you can find in the wiki (otherwise he's gonna butt in and mention it himself in this thread ).
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Thank you so much I am going to look into reading up on this menneisyys' guides on browser which you can find in the wiki
F2504x4 said:
first thing to do is to start looking at custom Roms, the operating system of your device, and find one that will do what you are looking for.
then if you decide to upgrade, then read this very closely and follow the instruction to the letter,
http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...-unlocking-cid-unlocking-wm6-your-8525-a.html
I am using this one and it works great, it resolved all my issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
the search on these two site are great, BTw welcome onboard .
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Thank you for the great tips. I am starting to feel better. I had heard about these tweaks but did not know how to go about them. I needed to ask. Do I need to activesync my device to upload these programs. Thank you in advance for the help it truly is greatly appreciated and what is bicking your device mean. you can be sure I wont be doing anything till I understan what im doing fully.
Mike
Long Island
those links are all about flashing roms, and i dont think you want to go that route yet. learn how to use your device first, only then you can start looking at upgrading roms.
XtreMe_G said:
those links are all about flashing roms, and i dont think you want to go that route yet. learn how to use your device first, only then you can start looking at upgrading roms.
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I will definitly take your advice on that and stay clar of that.
Another great tool to use to learn, is to click the "New Posts" button at the top, and read posts that related to the (8525) Hermes forums, even if you do not understand just what they are discussing, in time you will pick up a lot of a useful info.
This is what i do several times a week in the evenings.
I'm new to the whole customization here. I know how to install a few things, but not quite sure what all i need. I have the 8525 and I want to change my theme. I want some of the features that this phone has:
phone at top
how do i get the weather to look like that- and at the top of the screen
is that a seprate program, or what.
also the icons under that. thanks for any help
the weather thing is called htc home, you can find it all over this forum. in fact, someone just has another thread on this in this very forum with a download link in there.
and the icons at the bottom......the name is in the thread title of that link
Sorry guys, just figured it out, and thought it would have been more complicated. Turns out I wasn't asking much
Mate, word of advice, before you start flashing OS's PLEASE READ A BIT AND HARD SPL YOUR PHONE.......(makes it easier to recover if/when something goes wrong) I think most people have had experiance with a brick at one time or another...
We dont mind helping out with stuff ( it can be fun to help and gives a nice fuzzy feeling when things go right) but if you research a bit first you will generally find your question has been answered MULTIPLE times over. If you still have problems ask away... Answers will be more forthcoming when people see some research has been done...
Anyways, Welcome and happy flashing...
id first like to start out by introduciing myself....im ben and im pretty sure your going to be seeing me post alot of threads/replies on this site....i should be expecting my wing in tomorrow or the next day and i was curious as to what you guys think should be my way of rom/theme....i seen the must know newb guide but i seen that its a little old....didnt know if i should just follow those instructions to flash my rom or maybe someone has a little better advice? any help would be much appreciated....just to let you know i just upgraded from a horrible horrible sidekick lx.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387345
I just posted an answer to basically the same question in the above forum. You have to read, read, and then when you think you got it read some more. I read the directions and the forums about the ROMs for about 8 months before I hard-SPL'd and flashed my phone.
I'm not trying to be a hard ass but the posts like this and the twenty like it make it even harder to find your answers.
It will come, just have patience and remember.... there is always a chance you will end up with an expensive paperweight.
pseudoproto said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387345
I just posted an answer to basically the same question in the above forum. You have to read, read, and then when you think you got it read some more. I read the directions and the forums about the ROMs for about 8 months before I hard-SPL'd and flashed my phone.
I'm not trying to be a hard ass but the posts like this and the twenty like it make it even harder to find your answers.
It will come, just have patience and remember.... there is always a chance you will end up with an expensive paperweight.
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was it worth flashing the phone as far as that goes? as ive been doing more and more researching it seems to me this phone gets slower and slower...i had that problem with my sidekick and i kind of want to steer clear of that....
It was to some extent, I can use the camera without soft resetting every time.
You'll find that out quickly.
The more you have running the slower it responds, just like your desktop.
You just gotta find what works for you. I got a 4gig microSD (rumor is it will handle an 8gig) I have a lot of music on my phone. I can listen and play a game or check mail or surf at the same time without low memory warnings.
the stock has too much going and it never really closes out.
The custom ROMs usually have reg. tweaks to improve performance and make it all just run so much smoother.
another new Wing user here
Do I have to Hard SPL the wing before flashing different ROM?
I checked SPL in bootloader, and it's above 4.0
From what I read, it doesn't seem like hard SPL is required. The uspl process should work just as well
I also wonder if I should unlock my SIM first before flashing, or it doesn't matter
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another new Wing user here
Do I have to Hard SPL the wing before flashing different ROM?
I checked SPL in bootloader, and it's above 4.0
From what I read, it doesn't seem like hard SPL is required. The uspl process should work just as well
I also wonder if I should unlock my SIM first before flashing, or it doesn't matter
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Hard SPL will give you more options. Most ROMs require hard SPL.
The USPL is only used at the cooks discretion. There are only a few that make ROMs with that option.
For the ones that do, you end up with the same thing using either method.
SIM doesn't really matter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358225
Follow this thread to Hard SPL your phone. A wiser man than I wrote this.
yo i had my wing for about a week, i went straight flash to open touch 4 within 5 minutes of owning it... i didnt do the hardspl.. so you dont need it..
I think for a newb, your gonna have a lot of questions and be confused about the roms.. I know i still have that doubt in my head "what if i try that one, or this one, which one is the best? wow that looks dope should i do it?" Im still playing with the phone, realizing alot of stuff on it i probably wont use..
but im curious if id benefit besides unlocking the phone.. Its kinda cool to have that title that your phone is unlocked.. but i just signed a 2 year contract so i doubt id be pulling the sim out unless im in one of those rare times when a friends phone dies and he wants to use mine lol
I agree with pseudoproto; try not to post if it is not constructive or a serious problem, which you did not manage to solve after extensive searching and reading. This is nothing personal, but just to prevent the forums from clogging up or (eventually) moderators killing your post.
There are about a dozen ROM's which have been released the past two weeks and tons of ROM's in the previous weeks. You may ask if flashing your device with a cooked ROM is the best thing to do, but this entirely depends on your personal flavour.
I suggest you wait till you have received your Wing. Try using it on it's stock ROM for a week en then decide it you would like to have the risk ending up with a expensive paperweight.
When you decide to use a cooked ROM make a selection of the ROM's which seem to be interesting. One of the most experienced cooks in this forum is ITje.
Make sure you have read all the forum posts about the selected ROM and its predecessors.
As a Touch-It adept I know for certain you will need to Hard-SPL your device before you flash the Touch-IT versions 6 and 7. Because these two ROM's are based on the P4350 edition you might have some small conversion problems.....but again read all the posts and you will know for sure.
I recommend using the Touch-IT V7.1 Public Beta, although it needs some more fine-tuning which is already in progress; this because of the extensive knowledge base in the posts and its predecessors.
Each problem you will find has been found before, each bump you wil hit has been hit before so you will not be forced to reinvent the wheel all over again. Search and read and about 99.9% of your problems will besolved.
Good luck!
pseudoproto:
how do I know if a cooked ROM require Hard SPL?
I have to admit, I only looked at Open Touch 3 and 4 thread, so I assume all cooked ROM can do either uspl or hard SPL
Guess I just learn something new
hypertek:
Thanks for the feedback. I guess it makes me feel a bit better now knowing what you did.
One reason I look at Open Touch is that it seems to be the most "compatible" with Wing
Once I learn more about cook ROM/etc, I might try others
While TMobile stock is "good enough", there's a few thing that I see "missing"
- No Profile (think HTC home has basic profiling option)
- No "easy" way to get to comm manager without using stylus (ie easily turn on/off wifi/BT)
- memory hog, both storage and program. Think any cook ROM will fix this
Of course, there's the "fun" factor tweaking your new gadget
Think I will head over to Open Touch Discussion thread and start asking questions
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pseudoproto:
how do I know if a cooked ROM require Hard SPL?
I have to admit, I only looked at Open Touch 3 and 4 thread, so I assume all cooked ROM can do either uspl or hard SPL
Guess I just learn something new
hypertek:
Thanks for the feedback. I guess it makes me feel a bit better now knowing what you did.
One reason I look at Open Touch is that it seems to be the most "compatible" with Wing
Once I learn more about cook ROM/etc, I might try others
...........
Think I will head over to Open Touch Discussion thread and start asking questions
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To be perfectly honest I tried the Open Touch first because I didn't have to Hard-SPL. I read through the thread before just to get the answers your looking for now. The reason I decided to Hard-SPL is the options...Most ROM threads will tell you within the first three posts if they need Hard-SPL or not.
Some seem to flash a little differently anyway, For instance, The Open Touch 4.1 micro flashes off the microSD card but the other flavors flash with AS4.5 and you can do it with Hard-SPL or USPL. Other ROMs are ONLY Hard-SPL.
ITje, Aserg, ivanmmj, and TTran all make very nice ROMS and all have their merits. jappo01 likes Touch-it (nice ROM) but I went back to Open Touch. I bet we could argue ROMs all night.
If you do go to the Open Touch discussion READ, so many questions have already been asked most of yours might be already answered.
Of course, there's the "fun" factor tweaking your new gadget
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You just summed up why XDA even exists!
You are looking at another Open Touch 3.0 biggy user here
It is really simple (at least for Open Touch 3.0 biggy) to flash
- get the flasher
- get the rom rar file
- unrar the rom file into the right place
- launch flasher
- press some buttons when asked to do so
- done
Only used it for less than 10 hrs, but it seems like this drain battery more than stock TMo ROM
Opera 4 mini on stock TMo ROM is decent
Opera 4 mini on Open Touch is fast!
I also get one thing I missed: hard button for vibrate! It comes in handy when i need to silent my phone during meeting
Time for Open Touch 3.0 reading
well i just got in my wing today....i was very impressed at first until i started trying to browse the web....m.youtube.com got me my first memory critically low warning....it sucks and im wondering if theres anything i could do temporarily to stop from getting that while im at work til i get home?
animefans said:
You are looking at another Open Touch 3.0 biggy user here
It is really simple (at least for Open Touch 3.0 biggy) to flash
- get the flasher
- get the rom rar file
- unrar the rom file into the right place
- launch flasher
- press some buttons when asked to do so
- done
Only used it for less than 10 hrs, but it seems like this drain battery more than stock TMo ROM
Opera 4 mini on stock TMo ROM is decent
Opera 4 mini on Open Touch is fast!
I also get one thing I missed: hard button for vibrate! It comes in handy when i need to silent my phone during meeting
Time for Open Touch 3.0 reading
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I'll say it again...
Read the forums. Search the forums. Then read some more.​Read like you're back in school. I've had my wing for 6 months and I haven't flashed or even considered a hard spl. I have 24mb of program ram on the stock rom. I did it by reading, trying, and doing a few hard resets... I'll probably cook my own rom before I flash. There's a ton of information out there, and it's WAY too much to keep typing over and over again. That's why God created Google! Besides, it's much more fun if you customize your phone my yourself.
Hello All,
First off, I want to thank everyone whos cooked and added information on these forums.
Also I want to state beforehand that for the past 3 days I have gone through countless pages of threads to try and learn as much as I can on ROMs & the such.... its a lot of info! Thats not so much the problem, as I have a pretty good idea now on how to do it (though haven't decided on a custom ROM yet), but the problem is some of it so scattered you can easily have 20 tabs open and either get confused or something.
I have been unable to find (and if there is forgive me for not searching well enough), a thread, topic, or FAQ which would state where you can get programs (ie. Windows Live/Messenger, Internet Sharing, etc) that some ROMs remove. Thats really what has held me back so far from flashing a new ROM, as I really like some of these, but they might be missing certain things I would need (like messenger, or even maybe 5 fav?) but I can't find exact information on all of this.
Edit: I understand if I want to find a program I can just Google it. But what if I don't know theres this awesome program I have never tried or heard before? Can't google a program I don't know! That's why I ask if there is a thread, site that would list them all, or a good amount. I know there couple threads here and there that display default HTC ones, and maybe some odd others.
If anyone can please help me out, or direct me where I can find more info on this I would be really grateful! I might have future questions from then on but i'll definitely be searching to keep the asking to a minimum.
One other question I do have right now is the Radio version. I know theres a thread on a current version, but I see some ppl already have a version higher than that.. is there a place where you can find the current version always, and also, when u flash ROM, does that update your Radio too.. or is it seperate?
Thank you in advance all who help!
I really do hope to be part of this community.
Well I took the dive (woot!) and HARDSPL my phone succesfully. Just finished flashing the default OEM rom and upgrading to the newest radio as well without any problems thanks to all the info you guys provided.
I can't wait to get home (where I have really bad reception) and see if this truely helped me. Im in the mood now to play with all your ROMs as well (I feel like a kid at christmas).
Update: Flashed Open 7.7 and loving it. just need to get used to this brave new world..
Status:
Play and get used to this!
My only concern, and one i cannot find so far is.. at the moment i have no MyFav program.. if i call my currents fav i had will T-Mobile still know, or do i have to have the myfav program installed on my phone so i don't get my minutes charged for calling them?
New concern is i keep getting a text from "4670" saying WCI 1.1 111 every so often, is that normal when you get this program?
Another question: When I install programs, must they always be installed ON the Device, or can I install them on the Storage Card? If i do will they work fine? (or some u can, some u can't.. and some examples)?
Sorry for all the questions!
I install all my programs to storage card. haven't had any problems there. I deleted myfavs because t-mobile stores your favs on their system, so when you call a fav their system should recognize the number. the myfavs program uses memory is why I deleted it.
the text you are getting I don't know what to tell you on that.
sounds like you have the rest down pretty good
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How did you delete the my fav program? any assistance would be helpful