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Cingular 8125 - upgrade to latest KJAM ROM - issues/gotchas?

I've tried following the main upgrade thread and think I've found a lot of these, but wanted to hear from 8125 users who have upgraded on their experiences. Are there any gotchas? Is this a worthwhile upgrade? Is there anything that I should know before attempting the upgrade?
Thanks for all of your help.
-Pete Schott

Pete:
I upgraded a device, and immediately went back to the Cingular rom. The only thing worth using (in theory) was the push mail and the updated radio rom. The radio rom 2.07 worked great with the 8125, but push mail did not work even after tweaking. Also, WIFI did not work. I would advise to wait until April when CIngular says it is releasing the push mail update for the 8125.
Best,
DrBig74

CINGULAR ROM
How did you go back from the IMATE ROM to the original CINGULAR ROM?
Thank you

There are some people who have had problems with wifi, but I have not had any network I can't connect to thus far and Ihave been using 2.16.9.1 since the night it was found over a week ago. I have had no issues except when I installed some of Cingular's EXTRom cab files. I have not tried push mail, but everything is responsive and working.

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urologyhealth said:
How did you go back from the IMATE ROM to the original CINGULAR ROM?
Thank you
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Use the aWizard Tool.. I've switched Roms several times and even restored the splash screen.
Only thing I can't o is change the IPL/SPL.

SWITCHING BACK
Is it possible for you to outline detailed steps? I have the Cingular ROM and external ROM only from the XDA DEVELOPERS site, I did not back up my original ROM and I now have latest IMATE ROM
Thanks

I can't believe the difference in the ROMs. The cingular rom was dog slow. Even with all the registry hacks and processor boost. The Imate rom is MUCH faster and I haven't even pimped my ppc yet. I was ready to get rid of the cingular device until now. Push works, just follow the directions in the forum!

Re: Cingular 8125 - upgrade to latest KJAM ROM - issues/gotc
Hi,
I guess i have to share my experiance here. I bought Cingular 8125 a month ago and this is my first PPC phone. I liked the features a lot and was generally happy with my purchase.
One thing i hate about my phone and was driving me nuts was that i was not able to connect to WiFi easily, even if i was standing beside my rounter it usually take literaly 4-8 mins to connect to it and even after connect it keep on losing it. I was hating it so i started looking on internet to search a cure for my problem. Then i saw some sites with ROM upgrades for these phones. It seemed interesting to me so i started researching this. After a week or so i stumbeled upon this site and started reading all these threads about upgrading.
I was hesitent to actually go ahead and flash my device since i knew that these ROMs are not for my phone model. So i started with trying some tweaks which are scattered all over the place. I must admit they all help in improving my machine.
Well reading on and on for about 2 weeks i had enough information and courage to actually try the ROM flashing. By this time I know all the backup mathods listed here, so to make sure i have everything backed up i wanted to use all those mathods. For one of them i needed to have a miniSD card so i started research on it and finally ordered ATP ProMax 1GB miniSD Card, i seleted this because to my knowladge this is the fastest 1GB miniSD card available. Okay now i was ready for the ROM flashing. First i took the backup to SD card using wizBackup. Then i unlocked my phone using aWizard which also took the backup. Then i went ahead and installed the i-mate ROM.
Keeping all the research in mind i did not installed the Ext ROM and soft reset my phone as soon as the Select Carrier screen came up. After my machine came back on again, and i started using it and man i said WOW when it connected to WiFi is less than 5 seconds!!! It was very quick on connecting to it and seemed a lot faster while browsing. My whole experiance of using the phone was very pleasent. Also one more significant thing i noticed was my phone has better signal strength.
While i was playing with the new version for 2-3 days the Qtek version came out. Without spending even a minute i flashed to that rom and again i did not installed the Ext ROM and i soft reset my phone when the message came up that your phone will be customized in 3 sec.
Well now i have this ROM for about 2 weeks and i'm very happy with it. I think this is the best thing i have done to my phone. I have no lock ups, perfectly working WiFi and GPRS. Oh i forgot, i configured my GPRS manually after both flashing. I only ran the cab file from the orginal Cingular backup which changed the GPRS icon from G to E.
Well, anyone out there waiting to upgrade their phone, my advice is go ahead, you will love it!
Thanks,
Khawar

Just so people know, I'm using the stock Cingular 8125 ROM and have NEVER had a lock-up, have perfectly working WiFi and GPRS, battery life is great, the thing comes from soft-reset to ready to use in 45 seconds flat, everything works 110%.
I don't have push email but I also don't need push email.
You can definitely upgrade if you want but I just can't figure out why I would want to! :lol: 8)

Just wanted to throw in my two cents on this topic.
I felt the same way as mobilehavoc at first. The original Cingular ROM worked great, but I am the type of person who likes to have the latest and greatest. So I got the courage one afternoon and did the upgrade to the I-Mate ROM.
The I-Mate ROM has worked amazing to say the least on my 8125. Probably the biggest improvement for me is the interference with speakers is completely gone. With the cingular rom there would always be a buzz on my speakers at work and in the car when data was sent/received but with the new radio rom this is completely gone. Also the windows media player actually remembers the last song you were on. The battery life and speed of the device has probably doubled as well.
Its your decision to upgrade, but I am completely happy with upgrading my 8125. And as for mobilehavoc, if you think your 8125 is working great now wait till you upgrade.

kjason said:
Just wanted to throw in my two cents on this topic.
I felt the same way as mobilehavoc at first. The original Cingular ROM worked great, but I am the type of person who likes to have the latest and greatest. So I got the courage one afternoon and did the upgrade to the I-Mate ROM.
The I-Mate ROM has worked amazing to say the least on my 8125. Probably the biggest improvement for me is the interference with speakers is completely gone. With the cingular rom there would always be a buzz on my speakers at work and in the car when data was sent/received but with the new radio rom this is completely gone. Also the windows media player actually remembers the last song you were on. The battery life and speed of the device has probably doubled as well.
Its your decision to upgrade, but I am completely happy with upgrading my 8125. And as for mobilehavoc, if you think your 8125 is working great now wait till you upgrade.
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Good to hear. I'm a techno-geek as well so I love having the latest and greatest but I also don't want to mess with something that works perfectly.
I'm also lazy don't want to have to resync everything, reinstall everything, retweak, recustomize. I think my laziness is apparent everywhere - my desktop PC is running Windows XP which was originally installed 4 years ago and is running *knock on wood* perfectly...I know several people like to reload XP regularly.
Guess I'm just different.

YAY i may have to do this when i get mine tommorow hopefully fedex doesn't let me down from what i heard they have

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I have had my 8125 for a week - and have been nothing but impressed. The speed, call quality, functionality have all been great. Just upgraded the rom (I am never satisfied and am always *?^&ing around with things that work fine), and from what I have seen the past 2 hours, things only get better.

is there an app or something where i can just back up all my contacts and put them back on the phone after i flash with a different rom?

MMS working?
To anybody who has loaded a new ROM on a Cingular 8125, did you get MMS working with the new ROM? That (and the seemingly random occurence of Wifi not working for some) is the only thing stopping me upgrading mine when it arrives in the next week or so.
mick.

WiFi works great as long as you do not install a particularly nasty cab from the original Cingular EXT rom. That cab disables WiFi due to an incompatable DLL and is called Singed_gprsstall_1228.sa.cab. As far as MMS goes, the Qtek rom installs MMS but you will need to go in and add Cingular specific server information to get it up and running. Sorry, but I don't use MMS so I don't know that information. Also, you will want to install Signed_Edge_Icon.sa.CAB if you want the GPRS indicator to change to a large "E" when its edge connected.

Sleuth255 said:
WiFi works great as long as you do not install a particularly nasty cab from the original Cingular EXT rom. That cab disables WiFi due to an incompatable DLL and is called Singed_gprsstall_1228.sa.cab. As far as MMS goes, the Qtek rom installs MMS but you will need to go in and add Cingular specific server information to get it up and running. Sorry, but I don't use MMS so I don't know that information. Also, you will want to install Signed_Edge_Icon.sa.CAB if you want the GPRS indicator to change to a large "E" when its edge connected.
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Thanks - out of interest, which ROM build are you running?

I've got the production Qtek AKU2 rom installed:
ROM version 2.17.7.2 WWE
Radio version: 2.07.10
After installing, I simply let the builtin extended rom cabs run then installed the Edge Icon fix cab from the original Cingular ext rom. Qtek installs a minimum set of cabs including MMS support. The Edge enable cab from the Cingular ext rom can be found in the Qtek thread in the Wizard updating etc. forum. I posted it there as an attachment.
HTH

I have 8125 running Qtek's AKU2 ROM (2.17.7.2 WWE) that was just released. No problem at all so far. Everything works perfectly. Speed and reliability of the device have improved since then. I stored a lot of calendar items and contacts plus emails syncs. I do recommend the upgrade. Original Cingular ROM isn't fast enough with all the contents that I have.

Agreed. It's pretty much a must-do upgrade IMO. However...
I just wish I could find a way to set the default SIP to the block recognizer... The original reghack is no longer effective.
Then there's that damn battery icon..... :evil:

Hello there, Im new around here and was hoping for some friendly help?

Hello to everyone, A quick introduction - Im new to the PDA Place if you could call it that, I personally use a Nokia N95 at the moment, And just the other day managed to get hold of an o2 XDA Exec second hand. Unfortunatly for me the devices appears to be in chinese when turned on so as you are aware theirs is not exactly much I can do with it!
I am familiar with the flashing process on Symbian phones and have done it a few times, With this knowledge in mind I thought and assumed I would need to flash this XDA Exec to an english firmware, or ROM as it seems to be called around here. I have been reading through a few threads in regards to updating and have also tried to download a new update off the o2.xda website, But it seems to keep saying I have an incorrect IMEI Number even though I have entered the correct one by typing in *#06#
I found this forum and was hoping perhaps someone would be kind enough to help me in regards to the problem I am having. I believe this device has Windows Mobile 5 and have seen and heard that Windows Mobile 6 has been released. I assume you have to purchase this much like you have to purchase a new copy of windows for a PC. Is this correct?
I had a go at the flashing process, And downloaded this EXTROM Unlocker from a buzz site? I didnt know what to do with it as its a .cab file so I downloaded KDSkamal WM5 Ultimate edition and thought well if I can at least get it to english then its a starting point at least. I double clicked the file inside and went through the update process, Then it said that it was not designed for my device, And this is where I am upto because im lost with what to do now.
Any help, information and/or advice would be most appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Hi there, whenever you try to change the ROM of one of these new Windows CE devices (all those names are the "marketing geniuses" ideas, PocketPC, Windows CE, Windows Mobile), the device verifies that you are installing the "right" type of ROM for your device, as uncle Bill would say, you cannot put anything that you shouldn't suppose to, and by "suppose to" I mean anything that they don't want you to do, I think it's enough on politics.
Anyway, if you try to change the languaje of your ROM, the bootloader will not let you to do so, so we use an special (treatened) kind of upgrading tool.
It is normally inlcuded in the ROM.
If you read the wiki, you should be able to find the whole process, well explained, right now I just can't remember the exact name of this file (something like noIdUpgrade, MaIdUpgrade, or something like this), normally all our programming gurus supply it with the cooked ROMs.
I know how frustating it is at the begining (also considering that you know Symbian), but consider that these questions arise too many times and people get the idea that you come and ask the same question that literally have been answered thousands of times and you don't even want to make some research work.
Again, read the WiKi, it's the perfect place to start with your device, when you get to know some of the jargon, you'll begin to understand many of the things discussed here.
cheers and good luck

Thankyou for the reply, I shall indeed read the wiki. Since I posted that I managed to get hold of an o2 update ROM which I tried to install, as it was doing it where it says do not disconnect it came up with ERROR 101, and that the cable had been removed when it had not. I also tried again and the same thing, Now the PDA wont turn on at all. If I try to press the hard reset buttons it says press 0, but then does nothing. At the moment it seems to be stuck on the bootloader I think you people call it. And wont come out of it :-( looks like I broke it already

Ok, quick udate after alot of messing about and research I finally flashed it, Its now on the newest version of the o2 firmware. Though now its full of o2 rubbish. I tried to install this custom one I pointed a link to in a previous post but when installing it says its not designed for my country. I assume this is in line with your reply but I tried a search for that program and it turned up nothing.

vwrmic said:
Ok, quick udate after alot of messing about and research I finally flashed it, Its now on the newest version of the o2 firmware. Though now its full of o2 rubbish. I tried to install this custom one I pointed a link to in a previous post but when installing it says its not designed for my country. I assume this is in line with your reply but I tried a search for that program and it turned up nothing.
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Yes, O2 is full of crap. Try this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320116
As I suggested in it. KDSKamal's ROM is the best. Better than official ROMs. You can find links on how to upgrade in that thread too.
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Hey i had exactly the same problem as you, just bought an O2 Xda Exec in China, and all in Chinese but now I changed my Chinese WM5 to the KDSKamal's ROM, it works perfectly, and it seems stable.

Excellent, Thanks for the replies! I had a good play with it last night web browsing and such, I must say its so much easier than a Nokia N95 I love the software and such on it, Now if only there was a PDA/Phone that had the specifications of an N95 that would be great! I know there is the HTC Tytn but that only has a 2MP Camera I believe.
Anyway I really am pleased I got it working thankyou to everyone.
Now I know the basic process I would like to take it a step further and upgrade to Windows Mobile 6. Is there a way of doing this? I assume I need to get hold of another ROM, I admit I had a look around and found some dead links I assume due to copyright issues with Microsoft but im not sure.
Another question I had, Was I was looking around games you can get games like Riven (Myst series) And Age Of Empires which look just like the PC Version! Wow im overwhelmed by all the stuff you can get. On some of the games I have been looking at it says you need a certain graphics chip or higher in your device, May I ask what is in the Xda Exec? And if its a 3D Graphics chip thats good at running games.
How would I find out if the device is unlocked? Just popping in a card and trying? As I have a contract with T-Mobile where I get free internet, So it might be worth using my T-Mobile sim card on it instead of on o2.
The case isnt in the greatest condition, The screen and keyboard are perfect but there are a few scratches and blemishes on the case of the PDA, Is there an easy way of changing this and buying a new one to swap it with? I know it involves taking the machine apart which im comfortable with doing, Preferably getting a non o2 one would be great.
I hear about the radio and such, Does this device have a radio built into it?
Also is there anywhere I could either purchase a copy or download a copy of the manual? Im not sure how this device actually turns off, It seems to just go into standby mode when I press the power button.
Other than that, Thankyou very much so far!

again check the wiki my friend.... all answers to your questions are already posted there...

HTC Hermes-My bad luck or what?

Hi guys its been 3months now since I bought this device called Orange SPV 3100[HTC Hermes]. Since then my struggle to keep it working all the time started. I love installing apps/games & moreover the educative apps the most. I never tried to tweak much with my device as I never had time to do this. I am using SKTools retail to keep my device healthy. But I don't know after such a short period of time I am feeling so irritated with this device, I am using WM5 official ROM of Orange. Its been 4 times in the entire period that I hard reset my device to set it right but again after 1 week I don't know what happens with it,that it always starts giving me one or other problems like- short battery life, hang[most of the time I have to soft reset my device,normally 20 times a day] I do some important work of mine & the next time it stops working as if there is something very heavy going on inside the RAM. Now after 4th hard reset I tried to set everything right but of no avail, I tried using task switcher of different brands in order to have some sort of task management, but again this stupid device not allowing any of these task managers to work. What should I do avoid such hangups, crashes, less battery life? What is the answer? does it lies somewhere in changing the device or changing the OS to WM6 as been claimed by many. I need Your reply seniors I really bought this device to be a part of Forum.Xda-developers family, but now I am so sad with my experience that sometimes I regret my decision of buying a PPC device when I have lot of important works to do[I am an attorney] Seniors, technicians I Urge You to look in to this matter as an urgency otherwise it will be a last week of this device with me.
"This device is suppose to help me & not the vice versa"
Regards
Saksham Katyal

Plz help me getting an answer friends. I am going out of town by Friday morning so I to decide about it as soon as possible that what can be the most appropriate answer to the adversities I am facing..

sakshamkatyal said:
Plz help me getting an answer friends. I am going out of town by Friday morning so I to decide about it as soon as possible that what can be the most appropriate answer to the adversities I am facing..
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I think I can feel your pain. I had a Dopod 838 pro (aka Hermes).
But you've already mentioned the source of your problem: you're still using WM5 on your Hermes (???). Even now, there are still people who have not flashed the latest official WM6 ROMS?
Why don't you download the official ROM from the HTC or dopod website and take the time to flash it to your device...
I flashed mine, and the number of times I had to soft-reset the device in a week I can count on three fingers. (of course, I will soft-reset everytime I do a backup, but never mind that). It turned out to be the BEST phone/PDA I have ever had in over 10 years.
The ONLY reason I switched to TyTN II Kaiser is coz I found I needed more RAM for applications (due to my work. I'm an FX trader and part-time real estate speculator). Otherwise, for normal usage (PIMs, contact management, Internet, messaging, phonecalls), I think I would have stuck with the Dopod for a very long time..
The only tweakers I used were SKTools and Memmaid (I'm still using them). You say you never tried to tweak coz you don't have the time? I'm afraid you better find the time, friend. One Saturday evening is all you need to go thru the settings.
For me, I think it's worth the trouble, considering what the Hermes is capable of helping me to do.
As a starting point, you can go back to your vendor who should be knowledgeable enough to assist with the tweaks. Or you can try browsing thru my bookmarks here:
http://del.icio.us/Arbitrageur/PPC

Unfortunately his provider (Orange) has yet to publish a WM6 Rom for his device...

Does that matter? Take a trip to the Hermes Mobile 6 forum...

So friends, the answer lies in WM6? Can I use the WM6 posted here in the upgrading section in my Orange SPV 3100? No seniors here, I don't expect this from Forum.xda developers seniors. Plz seniors this could be last time I am posting here in this forum if no help will come through. Help me seniors..

Crash Override said:
Unfortunately his provider (Orange) has yet to publish a WM6 Rom for his device...
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Hmm... is the device locked to Orange? Locked phones can't use the official "generic" ROM from the Dopod/HTC website?
Hope y'all will excuse my ignorance in this. My old Dopod 838 pro wasn't locked to Maxis (my provider). I downloaded my SEA-version WM6 upgrade from the HTC website. (surely there is an Indian version?)

Guys I just installed Black Magic WM6 few days back with radio version 1.40. I am very happy now with my cellphone. Really there is a lot of change in WM5 & WM6, which I couldn't fathom. Thanx everybody for Your support. I would suggest anybody facing such problems to plz upgrade their machine. Highly recommended with mrvanx.org help guide. Guys can You plz help me in finding the right version of radio. I mean I am using 1.40 is there any new version for my HTC TyTn device. it would be great...

Here you go - all the extracted Radio ROMs available for Hermes available for download. Read their respective threads if you want to know about their issues/performance.

I couldn't imagine using WM5 ever again. It would be like reverting back to dial up.

beginners guide to all things hermes ???

hello. i just got hold of a t-mobile vario 2 (htc tytn). it is unlocked and is running wm6. i have installed a spb shell which i really like but as i read more and more it seems there is much to be learnt about this little machine.
anyone have any pointers as to where to start?
i would like to flash it so all t-mobile branding such as bootsplash and OS elements are gone. also i would love to know more about upgrading it with roms/software etc.
my main worries are of course wrecking it. i also want to know if flashing/upgrading it will mean having to reinstall OS or unlocking again??
thanks for any advice. i have come into this late i know....

Try My Tutorials
mredvers said:
hello. i just got hold of a t-mobile vario 2 (htc tytn). it is unlocked and is running wm6. i have installed a spb shell which i really like but as i read more and more it seems there is much to be learnt about this little machine.
anyone have any pointers as to where to start?
i would like to flash it so all t-mobile branding such as bootsplash and OS elements are gone. also i would love to know more about upgrading it with roms/software etc.
my main worries are of course wrecking it. i also want to know if flashing/upgrading it will mean having to reinstall OS or unlocking again??
thanks for any advice. i have come into this late i know....
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Take a look on my Tutorials they will show you how to Unlock and everything after you do that you will be able to do anything
Good Luck

thanks! i really need to understand more about what cid and sim unlocking is/does...what will happen if i do this and what i can gain.. as you can tell im very new to all this. i know my way around a pc pretty well but this is new to me.
main questions i suppose are:
1 what is a radio ?
2 what will i gain by flashing it?
3 will i lose anything ?
4 what preperations do i need beforehand? (using xp pro sp2)
5 what are the best roms/software ?

mredvers said:
1 what is a radio ?
2 what will i gain by flashing it?
3 will i lose anything ?
4 what preperations do i need beforehand? (using xp pro sp2)
5 what are the best roms/software ?
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1. Check This Out. Radio
2. Same Link As 1.Radio
3. Nope
4. You will need activsysnc for windows XP. i think it is 4.5.
5. Best roms...really depends on your phone and what OS you want on it. U can get WM5,WM6, or the new WM6.1

cool... sorry to ask questions like this.
i am pretty happy with it so far using wm6. really just want to get rid of the t-mobile branding and get the most out of it.
thanks for your help.
going to do some reading up on those links!

mredvers said:
cool... sorry to ask questions like this.
i am pretty happy with it so far using wm6. really just want to get rid of the t-mobile branding and get the most out of it.
thanks for your help.
going to do some reading up on those links!
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Yep No Problem. Here To Help!

Mr Edvers,
You definitely need to look here....http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
WB

woaahhh... thats exactly what i was looking for.
thanks very much!! i will report back after i have a good fiddle with my hermes.

TyTN UPGRADE TO WM6 ETC
Hi, I've been reading through many forums and I know your fantastic experience of pocket pc matters really blows my mind away! Sooo bad that I'm left really confused!
So, as a complete & utter pathetic novice that I am, would you be so kind enough to just read my little plea for help?
I have a TyTN200 Hermes with WM5 BOUGHT SIM FREE
1) ROM VERSION: 1.18.225.3
2)ROM DATE: 07/22/06
3)RADIO VERSION: 32.34.7010.01H
4)EXT ROM VERSION 1.18.255.106
I would like to update to WM6 & did go through the procedure of disabling USB part on the WMDC & downloading the USB driver. But when it came to installing the driver, it kept coming up:"the best driver is on your computer".
I've tried 100+ times to install the update WM6 but the answer is always the same:"Error 260".
HTC do not care & their London "Hotline" is a laugh!
What confuses me is this "cookin'"; "kitchen"; and this constant "Flash"??
Would you be so kind to just say the following:
1) what should I deal with first to get the upgrade? Radio?
2) Kick my butt for getting a expensive pocket pc that even the manufacturer cannot be bothered helping poor novices.

mredvers said:
woaahhh... thats exactly what i was looking for.
thanks very much!! i will report back after i have a good fiddle with my hermes.
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There is a half way house if all you want to do is remove t-mobile bloatware. Perform a hard reset and at the point where it says installing operator customization (quite far through) then stick your stylus in the soft reset hole. With this method you avoid flashing a new ROM and no need for any expertise. If you then don't like the result you just do another hard reset and let it install everything again.
Of course if you are tempted by some of the ROMs noted around here don't let me put you off flashing a completely new ROM For this purpose I suggest looking seriously at MrVanx guides.
Mike

beegeebopper said:
Hi, I've been reading through many forums and I know your fantastic experience of pocket pc matters really blows my mind away! Sooo bad that I'm left really confused!
So, as a complete & utter pathetic novice that I am, would you be so kind enough to just read my little plea for help?
I have a TyTN200 Hermes with WM5 BOUGHT SIM FREE
1) ROM VERSION: 1.18.225.3
2)ROM DATE: 07/22/06
3)RADIO VERSION: 32.34.7010.01H
4)EXT ROM VERSION 1.18.255.106
I would like to update to WM6 & did go through the procedure of disabling USB part on the WMDC & downloading the USB driver. But when it came to installing the driver, it kept coming up:"the best driver is on your computer".
I've tried 100+ times to install the update WM6 but the answer is always the same:"Error 260".
HTC do not care & their London "Hotline" is a laugh!
What confuses me is this "cookin'"; "kitchen"; and this constant "Flash"??
Would you be so kind to just say the following:
1) what should I deal with first to get the upgrade? Radio?
2) Kick my butt for getting a expensive pocket pc that even the manufacturer cannot be bothered helping poor novices.
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Sorry it's me again, but I'm still trying to get this damn update on my phone!
I've searched high & low, (probably not enough), but all this lingo is new to me.( and givin' me a headache!) The threads I've read always seem to mention a phone that's been provided by a network (orange,o2 etc), but is a SIM free phone already unlocked 'cos it can take any SIM card form any network?
I still get error 260 & I've checked the ports & it seems fine to me, but obviously it isn't. So where do I go from here on the Vista I have? I've used a neighbours XP & it was the same there.
Can anyone help please?

Tmobile Rom upgrade?

Hey guys!
I have got my hands on a nice HD2 and i would like to use the new rom upgrade... is this possible? i have taken out a tmobile contract, just to get the phone, I have unlocked it and now im on a vodafone simcard. Am i able to upgrade the phone via HTC website? as i put my serial number in and it says i cannot do it. Im not too fussed about the warrenty as i got the insurance for it etc... any help would be great as the SMS bug is really starting to cheese me off :O
Thanks!

iceghost1210 said:
Hey guys!
I have got my hands on a nice HD2 and i would like to use the new rom upgrade... is this possible? i have taken out a tmobile contract, just to get the phone, I have unlocked it and now im on a vodafone simcard. Am i able to upgrade the phone via HTC website? as i put my serial number in and it says i cannot do it. Im not too fussed about the warrenty as i got the insurance for it etc... any help would be great as the SMS bug is really starting to cheese me off :O
Thanks!
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The ROM upgrade is for unbranded devices, which has nothing to do with the SIM lock. You can get an unbranded device serial number from this thread...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=621752
It's a big thread, but it's there somewhere!
I believe you'll also need HSPL, which is in the ROM forum. That allows you to flash the ROM onto your device. If this is new to you, I suggest a good read through the stickied threads in the ROM forum first.
Hope this helps

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Well if i do upgrade, what will i loose out and gain via tmobile? would it essentially be like a unbranded phone then? because i cant see tmobile doing anything in a long time... and would i have sim card issues? (as in unlock)

iceghost1210 said:
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Well if i do upgrade, what will i loose out and gain via tmobile? would it essentially be like a unbranded phone then? because i cant see tmobile doing anything in a long time... and would i have sim card issues? (as in unlock)
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Once the SIM is unlocked, it's unlocked. No ROM flash will change that, so you can basically forget about that now.
As far as what you may lose from flashing an unbranded ROM, I'm not a T-Mobile user so I'm not sure about the changes they made to the installed software, but I believe they got rid of the youtube player. This can be reinstalled via a cab file, but this then messes up other video players on the device. I've not had anything to do with it, but it sounded messy.
With the ROMs from the HTC site you'll end up with a completely unbranded device, so you shouldn't have any of that faffing I just mentioned.
I'm afraid I don't know any further the extent of TMO changes as that's all I've seen mentioned. Rest assured, you're probably a lot better off with the official HTC ROM.

Brilliant, i shall give it a go, it does not seem that hard to be honest, plug in the cable and let it go right? Is there a way to back up my current rom or data on the device? etc...
Thanks a lot for help so far

iceghost1210 said:
Brilliant, i shall give it a go, it does not seem that hard to be honest, plug in the cable and let it go right? Is there a way to back up my current rom or data on the device? etc...
Thanks a lot for help so far
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No worries man - glad to help.
For backups, there's a lot of different things out there that will back up varying degress of information from your device, but not the ROM. If you ever need to go back to the ROM you've currently got then it's probably listed in one of the stickied threads at the top of the ROM forum.
Personally, I use Microsoft MyPhone. It uses your data/wifi connection to backup contacts, calendar, tasks, text messages, browser faves, photos, videos, music and documents, all off the device memory, with an option to backup the same off the storage card. (Yes, I did copy that list off the application - I'm not sad enough to know that by heart )
That's just my recommendation though. It doesn't backup registry and applications, but I just reinstall stuff after a flash anyway.
Hope this helps mate

I have been looking at doing this. I want to stick the new ROM on released a few days ago, and get myself a nice unbranded HD2. However, what will I have to do in terms of getting the internet and stuff working. Is it likely to be an issue?
So glad I found this thread by the way, I don't like the idea of waiting for t-mobile to pull their thumbs out of their arses.

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I have been looking at doing this. I want to stick the new ROM on released a few days ago, and get myself a nice unbranded HD2. However, what will I have to do in terms of getting the internet and stuff working. Is it likely to be an issue?
So glad I found this thread by the way, I don't like the idea of waiting for t-mobile to pull their thumbs out of their arses.
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Your connection settings are on the SIM chip, so you've got no worries there. When you've flashed the new ROM it will go through the setup process that you went through when you first got the phone. You select your provider and it does the rest.

Upgraded. Works perfectly, and I am not sure if it is psychosomatic, but it does seem more responsive. Very nice, and very easy. HSPL was surprisingly easy.

quantumandy said:
Upgraded. Works perfectly, and I am not sure if it is psychosomatic, but it does seem more responsive. Very nice, and very easy. HSPL was surprisingly easy.
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Yeah, it's not hard is it. And I totally agree that 1.66 seems faster and smoother than previous ROMs, but I too have wondered whether it was my imagination or not.
Who cares - it's better