I have an M3100 (with Orange firmware). I have an O2 monthly contract that I previously used on a Motorola V3i. I'd like to use my O2 SIM on my new PDA.
I have unlocked it using a piece of software that I was told about (yet to donate). But I have unlocked the CID - something to do with firmware - You guys know what I mean I expect.
This has WinMob/PocketPC. How do I or where do I find the firmware for O2 that will allow me to set up O2 setting. I went to www.o2.co.uk/mobileweb and found the pdf for manually setting up but their menu screen didn't look like mine.
ALSO - I would also like to use the wifi connection. My very kind neighbour temporarily disabled her security to check if I could access the internet using a hotspot but it just kept saying unable to connect. I thought that if I could find a hotspot I could just use it. Is this not the case?
Thanks in advance for your help.
S.
Well first off, SIM unlock is all you need. You do not have to replace firmwares to use O2's services. Somewhere (do a search here) here you'll find the O2 operator settings cab file (this is in really simple terms the equivalent of an installation package like you would have on your PC).
With respect to WiFi, turn on your WiFi via the comm manager (you might want to read the manual if you haven't figured this out yet) and then your phone should report any new APs that are broadcasting their SSIDs. (Tip: If the light to the left of the GSM light isn't flashing green, your WiFi is OFF).
Search the Wiki and read the manual a little as it'll save you a lot of trouble and confusion.
Wifi range is very small; it goes very very bad through walls.
In my case the signal is too bad to be used after 10 meters & 1 wall (door in fact)... Trinity (newer) is doing a little better but anyway; give at least a try very close of the accespoint.
It appears also that not every acces point is WM friendly...
Be also sure that your neighbour has beacon enabled, else you will have to setup manualy the SSID of the connection and tick "this is a hidden connexion":
Related
I got my new Tytn and WiFi didn´t work at all. It didn't show any signal and was always saying "connecting..." but nothing happened. I talked to the T-Mobile hotline and we finally agreed that WiFi would be broken and I would need a replacement.
However, I played around a little longer and got it working. What I did, was the following (note that I use a german version, so I am doing my best to guess the english screen and menu names, but I am not sure if I name all options etc.. with the correct english term):
I went to the configuration ("Einstellungen") of my Tytn and to Tab "Connections" ("Verbindungen"). There, I opened "Network Cards" ("Netzwerkkarten"). Under tab "Wireless", there are plenty of preconfigured networks and I got the impression, that the Tytn spent a lot of time just scanning through these preconfigured, but not existing WANs. So I deleted all these networks by holding the pen on them for a few seconds and then selecting "remove setting".
After all WANs were deleted, I added a new one and called it the same way as my Router (Fritz.Box WLAN 7170) called it.
Once this was done, it immediately connected and I can walk around within my house and use Wifi without any problem. BTW: The signal strength is set to "medium".
Hope this helps some other people, too.
Regards...
Cool, thanks. I'll try when I get home tonight.
I did similar on my tmobile mda vario 2 in UK. It was preconfigured with quite a few conections, but had also added many from open access points I had passed on my travels (mainly peoples houses!) I removed all these. You are correct, once it looses a signal for a short period of time it appears to scroll through all of the connections in the list trying to find another access point to connect to.
Hi,
my GPRS connection is working, it connects without any problem but when i try to navigate with PIE then I can see the message "Opening" on the left lower corner but it just stays that way for a long time and the page never gets displayed. My e-mail works fine so that means i have GPRS connection and working. If i try navigating to a WAP site some pages get displayed and some other don't. If i connect via WiFi or via activesync then i can navigate without any problems. Based on my observations I suspect a problem with the MRU (Maximum receive Unit) of the TCPiP stack but i can not find on the registry where to change that.
Hope someone can help.
I used Tweak2K2 to set it in mine. Sorry I do not know the Reg setting.
hguiraud said:
Hi,
my GPRS connection is working, it connects without any problem but when i try to navigate with PIE then I can see the message "Opening" on the left lower corner but it just stays that way for a long time and the page never gets displayed. My e-mail works fine so that means i have GPRS connection and working. If i try navigating to a WAP site some pages get displayed and some other don't. If i connect via WiFi or via activesync then i can navigate without any problems. Based on my observations I suspect a problem with the MRU (Maximum receive Unit) of the TCPiP stack but i can not find on the registry where to change that.
Hope someone can help.
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I wonder whether your HTTP proxy port number is correct. I had same problem and I was using the advertised port number until I discovered there was another one that actually worked. I would suggest a port number but I'm O2 UK (it was `advertised as 80 but only actually worked on PIE with 8080)
Mike
You are not alone
Please check the following threads, both are related to our problem, unfortunely none of them gives a solution.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286449
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287101
My GPRS connection doesn´t require an HTTP proxy server so Mike´s suggestion didn´t work for me. I contacted Movistar and they are not open to give support since I didn´t buy the device from them....
On the other hand, if somebody can provide the ROM reg settings and a brief instruction on how can be changed would be great
Hi Luiggi
Sorry you have not got it solved yet. I remembered your post and looked for it but did not find it - hoped you had a solution to offer - sadly not
Edit: I suppose you are certain about the proxy? I ask because mine will connect to GPRS just fine without it - BUT PIE does not unless it's set.
Mike
Maybe it is a Movistar problem
Interesting, so happens that my service provider is also Movistar; maybe they have done something different to their network settings. Any way, I was in the US recently and was able to use GPRS roaming although because the TyTN does not differentiates between GPRS and EDGE it could have been that it was using EDGE and that it why i could navigate using PIE.
The funny thing about this problem is that my e-mail works fine and my SPB whether also updates without problems, it is only the navigation with PIE that i have issues with. Based on my observations it seems to be that if the tcp packet is larger that a certain size it gets dropped by the tcp stack.
Not lucky so far
Hi Mike!
Movistar people told me that the don´t need proxy servers for the connections since they use Dynamic IP addresses (?). I´ve have tried a lot of different configurations but not luck so far, the comment posted above could be they key, now the big question is: What are the proper settings and how to modify the reg...?
Will reflashing the phone be the only solution?
Well looks like the options are narrowing down to reflashing the phone.... I'll give it a couple of days more to see if someone can give Us a hint on what to do.
hguiraud said:
Well looks like the options are narrowing down to reflashing the phone.... I'll give it a couple of days more to see if someone can give Us a hint on what to do.
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I´m not sure about reflashing, actually I have two 8525 I paid to SIM unlock the 1st one so I still have the original ROM 1.34.505.1 and the symptoms are the same, I don´t know what ROM would be suitable to "solve" the problem in case this would be causing the partial lock.
New Finding
I´ve been trying a lot of things and I guess I´m close to the root cause. I strated from scratch with a hard reset and giving a soft reset before the 3 sec secreen of auto configuration, then I tried to set a connection in my ISP, I named it "The Internet" and when I hit the OK button I got a message saying that there was an existing connection setting under the same name!!! I couldn´t find such connection, so I´m pretty sure that the connection is hidden somewhere in the ROM and we need to disable it and create a new one or modify the reg to address a different connection consistent with our own network.... Any thoughts on this?
luiggi said:
I´ve been trying a lot of things and I guess I´m close to the root cause. I strated from scratch with a hard reset and giving a soft reset before the 3 sec secreen of auto configuration, then I tried to set a connection in my ISP, I named it "The Internet" and when I hit the OK button I got a message saying that there was an existing connection setting under the same name!!! I couldn´t find such connection, so I´m pretty sure that the connection is hidden somewhere in the ROM and we need to disable it and create a new one or modify the reg to address a different connection consistent with our own network.... Any thoughts on this?
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I do have exactly the same problem: an MMS connection is missing but stored somewhere... Anyway to figure out where it is? To me, it's just a flag to change in order for it to re-appear in the \connection\connections tab...
MMS in Cingular
Jeff_mm said:
I do have exactly the same problem: an MMS connection is missing but stored somewhere... Anyway to figure out where it is? To me, it's just a flag to change in order for it to re-appear in the \connection\connections tab...
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I mapped that one in Cingular, the MMS settings are self extracted from the extended ROM, if you want to get rid of it just do a hard reset and then a soft reset when the 3 sec message shows up, hope this can help you
Please tell us how you did it....
jcb_home said:
I used Tweak2K2 to set it in mine. Sorry I do not know the Reg setting.
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Yesterday I took a look the the various reg entries and there are some which set default addresses, did you change those addresses? How did you do with Tweak2k2?
8525 on SALE
hguiraud said:
Hi,
my GPRS connection is working, it connects without any problem but when i try to navigate with PIE then I can see the message "Opening" on the left lower corner but it just stays that way for a long time and the page never gets displayed. My e-mail works fine so that means i have GPRS connection and working. If i try navigating to a WAP site some pages get displayed and some other don't. If i connect via WiFi or via activesync then i can navigate without any problems. Based on my observations I suspect a problem with the MRU (Maximum receive Unit) of the TCPiP stack but i can not find on the registry where to change that.
Hope someone can help.
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I went thru all regs and I couldn´t find MRU or LCP (Link Control Protocol) settings, what disturbes me more is that I put my SIM in my 8125 and everything (IE. messenger, Gmail, Hotmail, etc.) works wonderful!! I think I´ll put on sale my 8525.......
More findings
I do have GPRS connection, no doubt about it. I install Tonaya Iper in my phone and the software gives the ability to trace the route from my phone to the destination, for instance The route to www.gmail.com (216.239.63.19)
is as follows (I set the time [email protected]):
1.- 10.15.14.78
2.- 10.2.4.20
3.- 10.2.4.134
4.- 200.36.174.81
5.- 200.39.31.42 (mx-mesr-rt1.telefonica-data.com.mx)
6.- 213.140.50.233 (So-2-3-1-grtmtyma2.red.telefonica-wholesale.net
7.- Request timed out
8.- 213.140.43.25
9.- 213.140.43.225
10.- 213.140.36.45
11.- 213.140.37.57
12.- 64.233.123
13.- 66.249.94.8
14.- 72.14.233.123
15.- 71.14.233.123
16.- 216.239.63.19 (bp-in-f19.google.com)
When I try to trace the communication with a 1 second timeout the phone stalls for a while in server 213.140.50.233 and makes the traceability extremely slow.
My conclusión is that when the communication reach the server 213.140.50.233 this cause a delay and my phone can not continue to the final destination probably because the pre set delay in the application exceeds its timout parameter.
Any suggestions?
Not a "Maybe" MOVISTAR is guilty for poor GPRS connections!!
hguiraud said:
Interesting, so happens that my service provider is also Movistar; maybe they have done something different to their network settings. Any way, I was in the US recently and was able to use GPRS roaming although because the TyTN does not differentiates between GPRS and EDGE it could have been that it was using EDGE and that it why i could navigate using PIE.
The funny thing about this problem is that my e-mail works fine and my SPB whether also updates without problems, it is only the navigation with PIE that i have issues with. Based on my observations it seems to be that if the tcp packet is larger that a certain size it gets dropped by the tcp stack.
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Today I use a SIM from the other mexican cell company (telcel), I just enter APN, user name and password and in a blink my 8525 flew thru PIE, hotmail, MS messenger, Gmail and everything!!! Conclusion:Movistar system or set ups are causing all the connection problems, I´ve spent hours in the phone with their wonderful engineers and none of them has been able to explain why Movistar can´t give a decent service to 8525 users.
Using the Traceroute feature of IPer I notice a very long delay to ping the Movistar router located in Madrid (213.140.50.233), there´s where I think the problem is.
You are right Luiggi...!
One of the guys here at the office also has a Dopod 838pro (I'm ussing a HTC TyTN) but with Telcel instead of Movistar...the push e-mail capabilities and the internet surf are really very good ...but with the GPRS of Movistar I recive my e-mails very delayed in the phone and also still unable to sing in to MSN messenger.
Thanks to your post now I know the trut; I was really thinking that maybe the TyTN was the problem (I mean, the HTC branded because the Dopod was functioning just very fine) I was even thinking in return it...
regards
Hummm I suspected that....
Well I think we have (a winner) an answer (partially), I will go back to Movistar and complain, I may not get any results from it but I really have no options since because of my work I travel a lot and the roaming pricing I get with them is way better that the other alternative. The funny thing about this issue is that other HTC phones do not have it. A co worker has a Wizard and he can navigate with PIE. Maybe it would be interesting to investigate what could be the difference or why other phones can navigate and Tytn can't.
Wizard works great!
hguiraud said:
Well I think we have (a winner) an answer (partially), I will go back to Movistar and complain, I may not get any results from it but I really have no options since because of my work I travel a lot and the roaming pricing I get with them is way better that the other alternative. The funny thing about this issue is that other HTC phones do not have it. A co worker has a Wizard and he can navigate with PIE. Maybe it would be interesting to investigate what could be the difference or why other phones can navigate and Tytn can't.
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I do my living buying and selling phones and I guess next time (tomorrow) I get a Wizard for sale I´ll spend enough time going thru the registry and routes to compare it with the Hermes. Would you guys mind to run IPer and check if the afore mentioned router or server with the problem is common for all of us?
I already wrote a not very nice letter to Movistar, probably they are shocked because normally their tournaround time for an answer is less than 24hrs and this time is taking longer. Next letter I´m going to be addressing the Director or whoever is the top dog.
How do I get/ run the aplication mentioned???
I would like to help to figure out what the problem is or help you guys to get to a solution...so, where can I find and how do I use the software luiggi is mentioning??
Is it free or with a trial version???
regards
I have searched this and other forums and have not seen either this problem or an answer to it. Per AT&T's suggestion, I just upgraded to the new AT&T rom version that adds PTT and seems to have big problems. My current issue is that when I first boot up and connect via GPRS/3G all works well. When I get to a wifi area and switch to wifi, again all works well. However when I leave the wifi area (or just turn off wifi) I can't get any data via GPRS/3G. The balloon comes up saying it is connecting. The little "G" and bidirectional arrows in the top left indicate it is connected. However in the browser, it just continues to grind away with "Locating" in the bottom right corner until it finally times out and puts up a screen that says that the "page cannot be displayed because the connection was lost". I open the connection manager and press and hold the "Data Connection" icon until that goes off and try again, same problem. The only way I can get GPRS/3G data connection to actually work again is to reboot. Any ideas what is going on or how this can be fixed? Forgot to add that this is an HTC 8525. Thanks.
From your description I wasn't able determine whether AT&T's suggestion was aimed at remedying the issue, or if it's something that came about with the update.
Assuming the latter, you may want to try a hard reset first and run it for a bit before loading any other apps. Failing that, reflash the ROM. I had a lot of trouble with my radio when my 8525 was new, but it mysteriously cleared up after a few radio flashes.
Thanks but still a problem
Thanks for your thoughts here. I hard reset and reflashed.
Yes the firmware is the latest one that AT&T has suggested that everyone who had the older Cingular phones upgrade to. It provides the AT&T logo, the "push to talk" feature, and some other junk. I have contacted AT&T about this and their response was to send me a new phone that they claimed had the old firmware, since they have been getting a lot of complaints about the new firmware. It didn't have the old firmware and also it's SIM card reader appears to be broken. I called HTC and they said that they too have had lots of complaints about the new firmware quirks but had nothing to offer to solve them. Anyway, the old firmware had no problem switching between wifi and CGRS so I don't think it is in the hardware. On the other hand I'm surprised that nobody else is encountering the problem from the upgrade.
I'm having the same prob. Purchase three of these phones and the other users have little technical expertise. First I set up a sync with my office PC. Then loaded the ROM update. I run MAC's @ home had difficulty connecting to my home wifi. Finally determined that the 8525 would not accept the 13 key ASCII wep password. Needed to use the HEX. So I connected. Went to work and had problems syncing with my PC. Active sync had to rediscover the device. Now I'm back home and can't connect again. My Device ID changed names upon "resyncing" and I updated the Airport Base Station with my new name. I've spent a lot of time on this issue.. Maybe I need to send em back for an iPhone!
Well I found a solution to it
This is a great forum - though somewhat hard to search through thoroughly. Anyway the solution for me was to go back to ROM 1.34. Found how to do that through flashing from the micro card at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311704&highlight=cingular+8525+rom+version and getting the production ROM version at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades. Back to normal - everything works fine. Just for a trial, I also downloaded ROM V2.1.1 and it works find also - but sure seems a bit large - ends up with 42.9M of storage free vs V1.34 that has 50.25. Think I'll try the the memory expansion process at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298327&highlight=want+more+storage. That seems to at least provide a more than 9 megabyte smaller MBH file but I don't know what that translates to in memory usage yet.
Suspect there is a way to fix this problem but I haven't seen anything in the forums on it.
Hi all,
Firstly, apologies for being a bit of a newb here, but this is my first ever PDA type phone, and im getting myself confused, and for no real reason it seems !
I've done a bit of searching around, and from what I can work out I am going to make a few assumptions
1 - I should be able to, without using my WLAN connection, browse the internet on my HTC3600 through internet explorer, using my Vodafone 3g or GPRS connection.
2 - there is a way to enable some random wizardry chip inside the phone to activate GPS, and if I was to install TomTom Satnav software, this would work with no extra dongles etc.
Now. if my assumptions are correct (and one should never assume anything) I would be greatly appreciated if someone could in easy to follow newbie freindly (as in, click on start, programs,) instructions as to how I would ...
1 - do what is required to get GPS working
2 - do what is required to get the 3g web browsing working.
Im sure this would be a useful sticky if you cna help me do this, but having a search round on the forum I havn't seen these instructions spelt out. Aware that whatever you tell me I do at my own risk etc, but would really appreciate some help here
cheers all
conanius said:
Hi all,
Firstly, apologies for being a bit of a newb here, but this is my first ever PDA type phone, and im getting myself confused, and for no real reason it seems !
I've done a bit of searching around, and from what I can work out I am going to make a few assumptions
1 - I should be able to, without using my WLAN connection, browse the internet on my HTC3600 through internet explorer, using my Vodafone 3g or GPRS connection.
2 - there is a way to enable some random wizardry chip inside the phone to activate GPS, and if I was to install TomTom Satnav software, this would work with no extra dongles etc.
Now. if my assumptions are correct (and one should never assume anything) I would be greatly appreciated if someone could in easy to follow newbie freindly (as in, click on start, programs,) instructions as to how I would ...
1 - do what is required to get GPS working
2 - do what is required to get the 3g web browsing working.
Im sure this would be a useful sticky if you cna help me do this, but having a search round on the forum I havn't seen these instructions spelt out. Aware that whatever you tell me I do at my own risk etc, but would really appreciate some help here
cheers all
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Usually I would say search and stop being a noob but I'll be nice today.
1 - I should be able to, without using my WLAN connection, browse the internet on my HTC3600 through internet explorer, using my Vodafone 3g or GPRS connection.
Correct, however you'll have to setup your internet settings for Vodafone, you can usually find these settings on vodafone's support website or by calling customer service.
2 - there is a way to enable some random wizardry chip inside the phone to activate GPS, and if I was to install TomTom Satnav software, this would work with no extra dongles etc.
If you have an older ROM loaded on your P3600 then yes you'll have to upgrade it to enable the GPS. You can check your ROM by going to start->settings->system->device information if it's 1.15, you'll need to upgrade it to get GPS, however if it says 1.23, your GPS should already be enabled. You may also want to look into upgrading your P3600 to WM6.
Here are some useful links
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Trinity
http://trinityguides.info/
BTW, don't get too attached to this phone, the screen will probably stop responding in about a month and you'll have to send it in to get serviced.
Good luck.
conanius said:
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1 - do what is required to get GPS working
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Don't do anything apart from going to Start/Settings/System/Device Information and checking what is listed for Radio ROM. If it ends in **.**.11 it is GPS enabled. If not, as vanydotk says, you will need to update the Radio ROM.
Any GPS aware application (TomTom etc, etc) will automatically initiate the GPS receiver as needed, as long as the applications settings point to the correct GPS port (COM9) You don't need any additional hardware.
conanius said:
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2 - do what is required to get the 3g web browsing working.
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Make sure you have a 3G SIM card, and 3G is enabled on your account (it isn't always).
Use This Guide to manually configure the Vodafone settings (HTC did have an automatic file to do this, but it's been pulled from their site). Note there are different settings for contract and PAYG accounts.
Be very aware that mobile browsing can be very expensive. Before you do anything, make sure you buy a data bundle, or it may cost you up to £3 per MB of data.
Also a newbie and had spent some time reading the forum looking for answers... Can any experts clarify and/or confirm my question below? I know it s a very basic question for many here, but I would really appreciate it if someone can help me to get this working.
Do I have to have Mapping software installed on my Trinity in order for the GPS to work?
I go into the Camera mode by pressing the "shutter" button. Tap on the camera icon (upper left in landscape view) to enable GPS. However, nothing happens. Looks like it just keeps trying to start GPS.
The screen message reads: "Initializing GPS..."
What do I need to do to get the GPS working?
According to a previous post. My device came with the GPS enabled based on the ROM versions on my Trinity.
Some info:
I purchased my D810 in Hong Kong but I am using it now in Taipei.
The ROM info are as follows:
-ROM version: 1.23.707.6
-ROM date: 02/08/07
-Radio version: 1.35.00.11
-Protocol version: 32.68.7020.10H
OS 5.1.461 (Build 15671.3.3.0) Windows Mobile 5.0 with Messaging and Security Feature Pack. English version.
I am currently on a pre-paid phone service (FarEast Tone) so I do not have access to 3.5G, etc.
Thanks in advance!!!
Hey a few questions
1st
Is there a way to disable the mobile phone side of the phone and just use the GAN/UMA this would be very useful when I am outside the country.
2nd
Is there anyway to remove the orange software and get the orginal HTC software?
3rd. If i remove the orange software does it stop working with regards to UMA and still being able to connect to the orange network via UMA
4th. How do you install new software.
Keep seeing cab files?
Thanks
Damien
Hi,
To disable the mobile phone side of the phone, (or at least what I think your refering to) you can simply use the Communications Manager found in the Settings tab. You can use this to turn off the cellular radio. This will also turn off the data connection, so unless you are connected via wifi you will have no connectivity.
Yes, there is a way, you need to:
1) install hardspl, found on the forum, (which will allow other ROM's to be installed on your phone)
2) you need to back up your current ROM (the software currently on the phone) incase anything goes wrong.
3) After this you need to select another ROM to install, the WWE (world wide english) standard ROM is on the forum.
4) This needs to be "cooked" using a kitchen, again, found on the forum, and then can be installed on the device.
Sadly, UMA will no longer work if you do this. I am not aware of Unique being available as seperate software.
Basicaly, search around on the forums and have a little bit of faith. And backup before you do anything too drastic. Until I came here I had no idea what I was doing and I managed it first time so it can't be that hard!