Phone took a drink in Pond and will not turn on. - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General

My phone took a drink in my fish pond on the weekend and now will not turn on.
When I plug into the chargers I get a RED charge light that will not turn amber.
I have disassembled the phone. I did not find any water or condensation in the unit.
Can anyone tell me if it is the battery or maybe the motherboard.
Thanks

Tiberious said:
My phone took a drink in my fish pond on the weekend and now will not turn on.
When I plug into the chargers I get a RED charge light that will not turn amber.
I have disassembled the phone. I did not find any water or condensation in the unit.
Can anyone tell me if it is the battery or maybe the motherboard.
Thanks
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Smell the motherboard. That'll tell you.
Was it on when you dropped it in? if so did you try to turn it back on after bringing it out? if so, then my guess is it's the motherboard.

there is a case of wizard getting a swim and survived. the owner actually take off the battery 1st thing after he retrieved the phone, blow dry it, let is dry.. then only plug in the power. As I remember, it worked flawlessly.

The phone was on when it went swimming. Swam for about 10 seconds before retrival. The phone was off and would not turn on. I immediately removed the battery cover and battery. Then I shook out as much water as I could.
The unit was allowed to dry out for about 24 hours before the charger was applied.
I suspect it may be the battery but I donot have a spare to check with.
Does anyone know what the voltage values should be across the battery terminals?
I found a Wizard service manual online but it is not much help in the troubleshooting process.

The 'would not turn on' before you remove the battery isn't good. Anyway, you can read through this to see if you get any ideas
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269884&highlight=

from my exsperience is all it needs is to dry out. might take some time to dry out tho.
dont give up on let it dry as long as possible. i dont think it could be the battery but im not sure.

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Today is the worst day of my life

I woke up this morning to find my 8525 sitting in my computer chair as usual. Only to reach over and grab it, and ....its sitting in three inches of water. I have no idea what happened, or how it got there. All i know is my phone wont turn on, and is totally dead. Is there ANYTHING that can be done to right this horrid tragedy? Any help would be a gift from god. Thanks
Wow.
Sorry about that.
Let it dry out before trying to use it. Since it's wet, you have nothing to lose by taking it apart to facilitate this. You could dry it faster by using a hair dryer but NOT on the heated setting.
agreed; but let it dry for a day or two before you try, you should also put it somewhere that will provide additional moisture evaporation (gas oven with pilot lights or a furnace room, behind a PC fan or the like). i saved my old Sony S710a by letting it bake in my hot car for about 6 hours while i was at work. just make sure its totally dry before you try, and considering you already voided the warranty with the pool of water incident, you might as well take it apart if you can to make sure its completely dry.
hmm, bad luck.
Try all the above suggestions. But make sure you have disconnected your battery
Tried putting the battery back in after about a good 4-5 hours of being in the sun. All i get is a crackling noise when i try to place the battery to the metal conductors
Ewww.. I know it is stressful for you not to switch on the phone, but doing that will just make matter worst. Since you said that it wont turn on, I presume that you've tried it once (Strike 1), and you did it again 4-5 hours later (Strike 2), which usually others just leave it for at least 1 day (but probably the sun does help).
Can you identify what water is it? Can there be mineral within? Which may cause a short circuit somewhere in the phone. You'll need to open up the phone and clean it up somehow.. either DIY or get some phone shop people to do it. Your warranty is 'washed' anyway.
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OK, this comes from my many decades in the electronics industry.
1. PULL the battery. Do not put it back in in few hours.
2. Where did the water come from? Was it really water or? You need to know this. It's real important because mostlikly the PCB is contaminated. Anything that got inside has most likely contaminated the board and will cause shorts, intermitent contacts and the like. Even rain or spring water, it's the minerals...
What you have to do most likely is disassemble the unit. Get a gallon of DISTILLED (not Spring) water. Distilled, also know as deionized is free of all minerals. You are going to have to carefully submerge the board without the LCD in the water and gently rub it with a very soft tooth brush while underwater. Next take it out and put in another bath of distilled water. Agitate it gently. This proces should remove any contamination as long as the offending liquid is not sticky or heavily acidic or base. In the case of the later 2, you are most likely screwed.
Ok, so now you have a wet board. Genly shake the excess water off of it. Turn your oven onto WARM. Nothing above 150 F. Let it warm up and then shut the oven off. Put the PCB in the middle of the oven directly on the rack, close the door and come back 8 to 10 hours later. If the board isn't dry, repeat the steps again.
If you are luck and didn't fry it from trying to power it up, it may work again.
I have saved lots of radio equipment from rain & saltwater submergence this way.
Feel free to PM me if you need to. Good Luck.
I used to have a motorola and dropped it into a bucket of water. Dried out in a few days and it was working fine.
my 8525 recently fell in the sink. as soon as i seen it in the sink i pulled the battery out. rigged the phone up on something in the floor so air could ventilate under and over, set the hair dryer on high (but without the heat) and 5 or so ventilation fans from a desktop pc wired to a 9v battery. let the hair dryer go for about 15 minutes but left the fans on over night. took the phone with me to school the next day and left it in the car during both of my classes. came out put the battery in and powered it up. works just fine now
http://www.wikihow.com/Save-a-Wet-Cell-Phone
ive heard the rice thing works, ive alway wanted to flush with alcohol, that would in theory dilute the water and the alcohol would dry out faster.
Ok so heres the deal. I put the battery in. Power up the phone, gets to the vp3g startup screen, then fades to white. Could someone point me in the direction of a tutorial that shows me how to disassemble a Hermes CORRECTLY.
Hopefully ill be able to give it a DI Water bath and breath a little life back into her. Thanks for all the help guys, I really appreciate it
It's drying out slowly. I had a Hermes that did the same thing - eventually getting to the "screen behavior" you describe. I never fully disassembled it. I just let it sit open, with the battery out, keyboard pulled out, and the back off. Eventually (after leaving overnight), it was fine. Worked normal ever since that with one exception.. I had forgotten to pull the SD card. The SD socket never worked again :-(
Moral of the story: don't forget to take out the SD card.
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It's drying out slowly. I had a Hermes that did the same thing - eventually getting to the "screen behavior" you describe. I never fully disassembled it. I just let it sit open, with the battery out, keyboard pulled out, and the back off. Eventually (after leaving overnight), it was fine. Worked normal ever since that with one exception.. I had forgotten to pull the SD card. The SD socket never worked again :-(
Moral of the story: don't forget to take out the SD card.
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yeah i got lucky. when mine fell in the sink i had the SD card out and in the laptop doing hw. so i guess im really lucky that the sd socket still works
Not worried about the SD card as much... Anyway, Ive popped the back off of my 8525 after removing a couple screws. On the back of the circuit board there is white material that can be wiped off with a little rubbing alcohol and an ear swab. What is that crap? Ill go further in depth here soon once it fully drys. I sure hope I can get this thing running again, birthday is the 13th and would be a nice little gift to myself to get the phone working. Thanks for the help guys
WOW Just look it here...Thats what I call the Power of Unity man. Great piece of work, info. I love all You people. If the world learns anything from XDA developers then there wont be any more human sufferings I am sure..Enjoy friends the power of forum..
If it fades to white, it is still wet.
You need to let it dry a lot longer before trying to use it.
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On the back of the circuit board there is white material that can be wiped off with a little rubbing alcohol and an ear swab. What is that crap?
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Well, those are either stuff from the water or stuff from your phone that is washed and gathered to form some dangerous circuits (much like coffee water rings, that things tend to get to the edge of waters). These stuff may conduct electricity, hence making your phone goes nuts. Search and destroy all these 'crap' Good luck. Don't try the phone unnecessarily until you are sure that all 'crap's are gone. One of these 'crap' may potentially kill your phone (ok, it is usually not that serious, but just incase )
Sad story, I was lucky with similar story, but much cheaper. I left my Nokia BH-600 Blue Tooth Head set in my panties and give them to washing-mashine. 40 degrees program for 30 minutes ended by wringing on 800 turns/minute
When I found it in the pocket I just left it to wither up and it didn’t worked. So I tried to re-charge it and WOW it works and the battery has normal capacity.
Video of 8525 / Hermes being dismantled
Sterch said:
...Could someone point me in the direction of a tutorial that shows me how to disassemble a Hermes CORRECTLY ...
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Don't forget the popcorn: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsljpn74SW0

[Q] Atrix water damage but turns on! PLEASE HELP

I have a motorola atrix,
used for about a week. and dropped it in water. But when I did I quickly picked it up within 5 seconds. Tried to power on and I get the "motorola dual-core technology" I can put it in fastboot mode but when I want to restore it won't let me because it says the phone doesn't have enough battery to flash. Does anyone have any ideas?
Did you put it in a bowl of rice or a strong desiccant? If not, it may be too late.
Keep the battery in and power cable and see if that helps. If not, you could maybe try flashing the phone but I'd wait for more members to chime in before you take my advice. Best of luck.
it might be fried, as you tried to turn it on when it was wet. usually if you drop a phone in water you need to pull the battery and let it dry for a few days before trying to turn it on. let it dry for a few days and try again but def stop booting it for now as there could still be water inside.
sorry to hear about your atrix. i did the same thing but mine works when i put in the battery but doesnt power off nor lock. there is no red dot in my indicatior. maybe i was lucky?
Pull out the battery and place it in a bag of instant rice. Let it sit in a warm, "not hot" place for a few days. What kind of water was it?
I have a bad feeling that it's already short-circuited..
Good luck though. I wouldn't give up and try the rice idea anyway.
Poor bloke...
Another suggestion for you which has worked for me in the past with electronics is to take off the battery and drop the device in a tub of methylated spirits for a day or so. The metho tends to push the water out and you'll only need to leave it for a few days to evaporate.
hth

DVP drenched in rain

I carried my Dell Venue Pro in my jeans' pocket while riding my bike, it was raining quite heavily. Now it won't turn on. The indicator turned red on my battery, but the indicator on the device (on the battery slot) is still white.
When I returned home I thought the charge was down and plugged into charger still it didn't start, I used hair dryer to get all water out, didn't work either. Finally searched on the net and found that it should be sunk in large quantity of rice, still didn't work. Is there anyway to fix? If I take this phone to dell, approx how much will they charge to fix it?
Oh dear god don't power it. Take the battery out and place both in a bowl of uncooked rice. Leave it for 24 hours. This will remove all the water.
Rice trick worked, I placed in a bag of rice for 20 hours. But once again my phone turned off after 10 - 15 mins of usage.
to be safe when any electronic gets wet, take it apart as much as possible, put everything in a plastic container of rice and set it in a sunny location and leave it for as long as you can, at least 3 days a week is prime. Then after the time frame, with everything apart use a combo of compress air and a blow dryer to get rid of the small rice and then put battery back in and your good.
You might need a new battery
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You might need a new battery
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You can test this by plugging the phone in to the charger without a battery in. See how it works.

Wet insides Galaxy s4

OK, so this isn't your usual story with the phone dropping in water. Today I was using my phone until the battery got to about 6% at which point I decided to charge it. Its here that things get weird. The phone wouldn't charge, it wouldn't even detect that it was plugged in. So naturally I take of my case and take off the back of the phone to have a look and guess what i find. THE PHONE'S INSIDES ARE WET. Not like a few drips but instead like a pot cover on the stove kind of wet, and that's only on the inside, the UAG case that I have with my phone was completely dry (have no pics was in a panic and just dried it off, both the inside of the pone and the plastic back). The battery I have with the phone is a replacement one with a water damage indicator on it and its completely pink (note the indicator is on the other end next to the battery's connector pins.
So now I decide to try the old battery that came with the phone (swollen battery issue form the bad BD batch had to be replaced) and now with that battery the phone still isn't charging. With both batteries the most I get is a quick 'charging' indication for about 2 secs then nothing for another 2 secs then 'charging' again for 2 secs. That's the most I get.
So how did my phone just start to form condensation on the inside and why isn't it charging with either battery, wont be detected by my pc either.
please help
EDIT: i9500 32gb, had it since September, bought it from a friend so no warranty.
dorianmayers said:
OK, so this isn't your usual story with the phone dropping in water. Today I was using my phone until the battery got to about 6% at which point I decided to charge it. Its here that things get weird. The phone wouldn't charge, it wouldn't even detect that it was plugged in. So naturally I take of my case and take off the back of the phone to have a look and guess what i find. THE PHONE'S INSIDES ARE WET. Not like a few drips but instead like a pot cover on the stove kind of wet, and that's only on the inside, the UAG case that I have with my phone was completely dry (have no pics was in a panic and just dried it off, both the inside of the pone and the plastic back). The battery I have with the phone is a replacement one with a water damage indicator on it and its completely pink (note the indicator is on the other end next to the battery's connector pins.
So now I decide to try the old battery that came with the phone (swollen battery issue form the bad BD batch had to be replaced) and now with that battery the phone still isn't charging. With both batteries the most I get is a quick 'charging' indication for about 2 secs then nothing for another 2 secs then 'charging' again for 2 secs. That's the most I get.
So how did my phone just start to form condensation on the inside and why isn't it charging with either battery, wont be detected by my pc either.
please help
EDIT: i9500 32gb, had it since September, bought it from a friend so no warranty.
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Sounds like condensation that can occur if going from a warm humid climate (perhaps your pocket) into a much colder one. There is likely to be some remaining moisture that must be removed immediately and leave the battery out of the phone until you do or electrolytic corrosion will occur and that can kill the phone. I'd suggest putting the phone (remove back cover) in a fan forced oven at 70C for a couple of hours to dry it out.
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Sounds like condensation that can occur if going from a warm humid climate (perhaps your pocket) into a much colder one. There is likely to be some remaining moisture that must be removed immediately and leave the battery out of the phone until you do or electrolytic corrosion will occur and that can kill the phone. I'd suggest putting the phone (remove back cover) in a fan forced oven at 70C for a couple of hours to dry it out.
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I've had it blow drying for a bit. the battery is still out. I will put it back in in the morning. will give results then.
heating it up is a bad idea. it causes water to condensate which was obviously the initial problem here...
you could put the phone in rice. much rice. and leave it there for a couple of days.
of course after removing the battery
dr.wtf said:
heating it up is a bad idea. it causes water to condensate which was obviously the initial problem here...
you could put the phone in rice. much rice. and leave it there for a couple of days.
of course after removing the battery
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I was going to type that. GG
Using rice is a great trick, put your phone surrounded with rice and leave it over night and hope for the best.
Well... a day without the battery in and I had it rice and nothing. The phone still works but no charge. I'm going to order in a charging port and see what happens from there. Also I's taking the phone to be serviced today, a guy said to bring it it to make sure there isn't more corrosion damage.
ok update.
Carried it to the shop and they said it didn't need servicing and that all i would need to do is buy a replacement usb. I said okay and in the meantime I bought a battery charger so i could charge the battery alone. after 4 hours the thing charged it to 46% (sigh) as soon as i put back in the battery i tried to charge it again and still nothing from the usb. Fast forward 15 mins later as i was about to leave work, I borrowed a coworker's charger and guess what... it finally charged. Got home and plugged it in an just the same it was charging. Granted however i had to keep it held a way so i could charge and not keep cutting out. This all happened Thursday and Friday night when i came to charge my phone again I plugged it in at 40% and when i looked back at it, it was at 45% and no longer charging and no matter how I hold it still nothing. I simply restarted the phone while the cable was still in and when it came back on it was charging and did so straight to 100% this morning.

Dropped in sink full of water and noting happened

Last night I had placed my phone in a grocery sack coming into the house, was wearing my GI so had no pockets. Put the sack by the sink, which was full of water and dish soap. Forgot my phone was in there cause I was dealing with a sick kid. Went to get my phone and it has slid out the bag and into the sink. Amazingly no issues with it. Its been 24hours and everything is still working and looks as it did...crazy. All i did was blow it out with my air compressor. They claim the pixels's are not water proof correct?
They are not waterproof. Most phones have natural water resistance because of how compact and tight they are put together. This is no exception.
The biggest concern are speaker damage from a quick dip in water, and it sounds like you got lucky. I would suggest maybe not using an air compressor next time as that kind of pressure might make the damage worse.
I thought I probably made a mistake by using the air compressor lol. Just glad there is no damages!
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Lucky you, mine fell in the pet water bowl for 5 sec and it fried something on the mobo, the lower board didn't work anymore, so no charging or sounds. I have to send it in for a replacement from asurion since I cannot find the parts to fix myself. Everything else works on the phone.
chapelfreak said:
Lucky you, mine fell in the pet water bowl for 5 sec and it fried something on the mobo, the lower board didn't work anymore, so no charging or sounds. I have to send it in for a replacement from asurion since I cannot find the parts to fix myself. Everything else works on the phone.
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Oh man that sucks!
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Oh man that sucks!
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I have good news, I don't think the company I sent the phone to did jack. The phone didn't look any different, even though they did a lot of work to the phone. I got the phone back today, I plugged it in and still nothing. I wanted to see for myself what was inside (ifixit wasn't enough). I tore it apart and did not see any corrosion. The water sensor is visible when you take off the screen through the mid-frame. It was 3/4 tripped (1/4 was still white). So I tried unplugging and re-plugging everything in. I plugged the charger in and the screen lit up with 0%. The phone didn't charge up after a while, even with the screen still on. I did the water recovery on the board on the bottom with the charge port. Next I only got a blinking red light and no screen lit up. I let it sit for 15 min. Tried turning it on, nothing. So I help down the power button while unplugging and plugging it in multiple times, and voila it turned on! Everything works on the phone! So I put it back together, put 3M industrial adhesive, and it is currently under clamps.
TL;DR I did my own water recovery on the phone, and I got it working!
chapelfreak said:
I have good news, I don't think the company I sent the phone to did jack. The phone didn't look any different, even though they did a lot of work to the phone. I got the phone back today, I plugged it in and still nothing. I wanted to see for myself what was inside (ifixit wasn't enough). I tore it apart and did not see any corrosion. The water sensor is visible when you take off the screen through the mid-frame. It was 3/4 tripped (1/4 was still white). So I tried unplugging and re-plugging everything in. I plugged the charger in and the screen lit up with 0%. The phone didn't charge up after a while, even with the screen still on. I did the water recovery on the board on the bottom with the charge port. Next I only got a blinking red light and no screen lit up. I let it sit for 15 min. Tried turning it on, nothing. So I help down the power button while unplugging and plugging it in multiple times, and voila it turned on! Everything works on the phone! So I put it back together, put 3M industrial adhesive, and it is currently under clamps.
TL;DR I did my own water recovery on the phone, and I got it working!
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Awesome. Glad its working! Mine is still working fine. Guess I got super lucky and got no water damage.
What did you mean when you said u did a water recovery on the charging port? Can you elaborate what you did exactly..i got my phone dropped in water for 2 sec, now its off, tried connected to charger but its blinking red light,been 3 weeks..i already open it up, there are some white percipitate at few places..but no rust..put it all back but still the same..im gonna give up if nothing happens in a few days..
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What did you mean when you said u did a water recovery on the charging port? Can you elaborate what you did exactly..i got my phone dropped in water for 2 sec, now its off, tried connected to charger but its blinking red light,been 3 weeks..i already open it up, there are some white percipitate at few places..but no rust..put it all back but still the same..im gonna give up if nothing happens in a few days..
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My pixel only lasted a few weeks before the battery bloated, so I got an insurance replacement...I used 100% alcohol to clean the charge port and the flex going from the Mobo to the charge port while it was out of the phone. Plus to get it going I pushed the power button a bijillion times while plugging and unplugging the charging cable before the battery would take a charge.

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