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BT Stereo Headphones for XDA now available!

Hi guys...
have u seen this?
http://www.bluetake.com/products/BT420EX.htm
And now the question
Can u please have a look for me at the compatibility page... does that means anything for the XDAII?
Of course I mean as far as working as phone is concerned... of course the stereo audio would play.
Do any of u have or have tried the headphones? Do they work with the XDA in phone mode? Could they work?
If you don't know I would play guinea pig and order now!
Thanks,
Chris

from what the page says then it looks like will not be connecting to the xda2 using bluetooth but you just plugin the at minijack and the xda see it as a normal headset
and then the little box sendt the info to the headset
but of cause this would require you to use a minijack 3.5m to 2.5m converter
and you would not be able to use it for phone calls

Thank you... but why?
Dear Rudegar,
can I ask you why?
I do understand I would need the minijac converter and I would not be able to use the wired bottom for phone calls, but I tough I could still use the headset connected via BT for the phone call just as I did with my SE HBH-35 (before I lost it...).
Why you think I would not be able to use via BT? If I use BT tools?
Thanks!
Chris

it all comes down to how they made the device really
as i see it the headset connects to the box which connect to the minijack
maybe you can connect the headset directly to the bluetooth and not use the box
but the headset dont seem to have a mic
and the microsoft bluetooth stack dont support streaming audio over bluetooth from what i understand
as i see it then it dont matter if the headset is using bluetooth at all it could use any protocol to talk with the box

not sure about this but i do recall reading somewhere that the headset in the article does NOT work with the xda2. not sure if it's through this forum or another article. now if another chap could find that article somewhere...
a mate of mine living in hong kong tried using this headset with his xda and the bluetooth didn't work...unless of course he was doing something wrong so don't peg it on me
given that the bluetooth headset does not work with the xda2's bluetooth; the reason the converter may be needed is because the dongle might have a built-in 3.5mm jack. the xdas use 2.5mm jacks; thus needing the 3.5-2.5 mm converter. once you have the converter then basically you have the dongle piggy-backing on the xda...reminds me of the time i used a jabra bt with my xda1; the headset had an adaptor for non-bluetooth phones...downside was that you had the jabra dongle piggy-backing. the same could apply for the bluetake headset. you would need the dongle to be connected to the xda in order for the bluetooth to function.
i also recall reading that the bluetooth of the xda2 does not support wmp...
cheers
-r

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If you are looking for a Bluetooth headset for non Bluetooth device, this could be the solution!!!

Thank you, let me expain better!
Thanks to u all for all the replies to my question.
Let me be a little more spefic. There are 2 parts to how this headset works:
1) As a stereo headset connected via BT to the company's little box that connect to any 3.5 stereo jack (no matter what they are for... stereo, ipod, or XDAII bottom plug with an adapter).
For this use I have no dubt it would work since the 3.5 jack is same for everybody
2) As a headset (it supports both Headset and Hands-Free profiles) to pair with the XDA II as I would do with my SE HBH-35 for use as a phone only.
Would this bit work?
Thank you!
Chris
Rudegar:
"as i see it the headset connects to the box which connect to the minijack"
Correct for function 1
"maybe you can connect the headset directly to the bluetooth and not use the box"
My understanding is that u do this and through this connection u can use the headset only as a phone oyu need to ALSO connect to the box to also get stereo sound
"but the headset dont seem to have a mic"
It does
"and the microsoft bluetooth stack dont support streaming audio over bluetooth from what i understand"
It doesn't matter. I hope I would get audio streaming from the bottom 2.5 to 3.5 jack to little-box to BT to headset
AND
the phone function connecting the headset in (Headset or Hands-Free profile) to the XDAII. The only think I care about the stack is that it pairs with the headset in phoneheadset mode.
"as i see it then it dont matter if the headset is using bluetooth at all it could use any protocol to talk with the box"
Correct, but I still need the headset to be BT compatible with the XDAII to use function 2
Robson: thank you, I wrote the maker asking if there are any known issue with the XDAII

but lets say i'm riding a bike listening to music using the box
and the phone rings would the device automaticly drop the connection to the box and use the bluetooth bond to my xda2 to let me answer the phone ?
have anybody tried to connect a 2.5m headset the one that comes with the device and then bound a headset and see if the 2.5m headset interfear with the bluetooth when it rings ?

"but lets say i'm riding a bike listening to music using the box
and the phone rings would the device automaticly drop the connection to the box and use the bluetooth bond to my xda2 to let me answer the phone?"
I understand that by device you mean the headphones. I am not sure if it drops the connection or not, but u here the ring and when u answer it stops the music
I have attached the manual I found on the website

would be pretty cool to see a test of it with xda2 and maybe an ipaq so one could see if it would be even cooler if you were using the non ms bluetooth stack

I bought it!
I bought it!
I will let u all know if it works once arrives... I will have one week to test it or send it back.
I don't know if it would work much better with an Ipaq... as far as I know you can't get stereo audio out through BT from an Ipaq either...

i believe that the ipaq's bluetooth stack should support it but i'm not 100%
some guy in this forum did manage to get audio from his pc to his bluetooth headset but the quality was pretty poor

http://www.expansys.dk/product.asp?code=114076
the imate and xda2 and such are listed on the compatible list of this headset
but just how compatible we'll see when you or somebody else get hold of one and try it out

F**k what I said, it don't means s**t now...
Hi guys... got it yesterday... returning it today...
Qucik summary:
1) It worked fairly well as stereo headphone with the included box
2) It paired with the XDAII, but the audio was very ppr with a lot of eco and the botton to answer or close the call did not work with the original BT (1.52) nor with BT Tools.
Sorry guys....

wonder if it would have worked better with the WidCom stack

Did you try contacting their tech support at all? Usually companies with a new product like that are willing to work with users.

Yes I did
Yes, I did contact them:
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 06:07:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Christian
Subject: Compatibility with XDAII
To: [email protected]
Hi!
Can I use the i-PHONO BT420 EX Hi-Fi Sports Headphone Kit with an XDAII/iMate/QTek2020/OrangeM1000? (They are different names for the same pda/phone produced by HTC).
Are there any known issues?
Let me expain better myself:
1) I know and I am aware I cannot get stereo audio out of the PDA through BT from any application unless I connect the stereo jack to an adapter that get me to a 3.5 jack to connect to the BT transmitter box
2) What I would like to know is if I could pair and use the headphones with the BT of the the XDAII just for the phone part (as I would do with any other BT headset), so getting the mic and speaker to work
Thanks,
Chris
I go no answer... in the mean time I managed to buy, receive and send it back.

Hi cchris
Here you have one working Bluetooth stereo headset.
I have bought it for 1 1/2 month ago and works great with the Xda II
Here is the link.
http://www.sonorix.com/~tven/eng/product/product_bap.php
It work as a bluetooth headset with a 128M mp3 player.
If you listen to music and if you receve a call the the mp3 goes down and you can answer the call.
You receve a USB Dongel witch you can connect to the PC and listen to stereo music t ex.
Regards
Josef

Sounds Great but...
Thank you JoseF!
It sounds great!
I believe u mean the BT Headset on the link given (the BT Stereo Headset is reported as not yet available)
If I understand u correctly, by saying it works great with the XDAII you mean that it pairs. Can I ask a few questions:
-does it has a botton to push to answer/close phone calls, and does it works with the XDAII?
-is there a way to also get the stereo sound from the XDA? I don't care if I need to use dongles or third part audio to BT things... but can I do it?
I just bought a 1GB SD card, I don't want to carry a separate device for MP3, I would like to do everything from the XDA, also get the audio from the movies I play with the thing!
Thank you!
Chris
P.S.: By the way where did u bought it/where do u think I can get the best price for it?

Hi Chris,
does it has a botton to push to answer/close phone calls, and does it works with the XDAII?
Yes it has a botton to push to answer.
-is there a way to also get the stereo sound from the XDA? I don't care if I need to use dongles or third part audio to BT things... but can I do it?
No,not at the moment, It will be possibel in the future.If sameone can make the widcomm stack to work (h6315).
I dont know if the device is available at the moment.I have a friend that bought one in Januari,It was just 64M storage.
I bought mine in Juli , They have change the storage to 128M.
If you are intrested contact khcoi . Take a look at FAQ at http://www.sonorix.com/~tven/bbs/rboard.php?id=e_qa
Regards
JoseF

How do I listen to Mp3's from my bluetooth headset?

Dear All,
I've been searching to find a solution to this for 2 weeks now, there are some posts i have read whole forum almost, nothing seems to work.
I think it has nothing to do with what kind of bluetooth headset you have, there should be a program which should transfer audio from sound card of the Mda to the integrated phone inside this device.
Could someone describe how can we achieve this? It is very convenient to listen to audiobooks (if you think why would someone need mono listening)
I'm also willing to pay for this help.
Greetings,
Devrim
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=14687 )
my config: MDA (Dutch) wMobileSE 2.06 4.21.1088 with Jabra BT250
i tried to install widcomm, but it doesn't work.

Unfortunately we were the recipients of a beautiful piece of hardware that was released with a "non standard" bluetooth implementation. I have read peoples claims that this is possible, but, I am yet to experience a working solution.

RE
Hi!
Widcomm does not support bluetooth headset at the moment although the headset can be paired with your PPC ie. no sound recieved from your headset.
One way out is to listen MP3 from your PC/laptop which is possible through your headset, however, you'll have to get thre right dongle.
As for listening MP3 from my O2 XDA II through my iPHONO bluetooth headphone I had Widcomm + the High Quality Audio Profile installed. The sound was crappy with occasional split second interruption to the sound playback.
So much so for the current bluetooth technology for listening to MP3 playback on my O2 XDA II

how did you install widcomm and deactivated ms stack?
plus, iphono thingie has no microphone, hence i'll have to have two bluetooth headsets... not convenient...
thanks,

RE
Well, if you make a search for Widcomm there're many threads on this subject.
Read all of them and you'll be able to find your answers

Even the new Broadcom stack Build 3500 for XDA IIs does not support the mp3 playback on BT headsets.
The unofficial upgrade which adds hi quality BT headset profile, I still doubt it can do it coz the Audio Gateway preference is not listed. Damn

Re: RE
FOSA said:
Hi!
Widcomm does not support bluetooth headset at the moment although the headset can be paired with your PPC ie. no sound recieved from your headset.
One way out is to listen MP3 from your PC/laptop which is possible through your headset, however, you'll have to get thre right dongle.
As for listening MP3 from my O2 XDA II through my iPHONO bluetooth headphone I had Widcomm + the High Quality Audio Profile installed. The sound was crappy with occasional split second interruption to the sound playback.
So much so for the current bluetooth technology for listening to MP3 playback on my O2 XDA II
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I had install the Widcomm BT stack, it is not working. There was no sound in the bt earpiece (mine is HBH-65) although it was paired with xdaII. The worst is it mess up the function for normal phone talking. I can listern the voice from caller but they cannot listern to my voice during phone call.
the xdaII can't get back to normal until a hard reset. Would you please tell me how to get the earpiece work ?

Hi,
the unofficial upgrade is working, I just got a pair of HP headphones, it's awesome. Just be sure your headphones support A2DP, regular headsets won't do it.
Treo

Nice one Mp3's over blue tooth. Any chance of a simple walk through on how to do it and the files needed?
cheers

plus, iphono thingie has no microphone, hence i'll have to have two bluetooth headsets... not convenient...
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http://www.ppcsg.com/forums/viewtop...t=iphono&sid=6d3d546329a09353b6817f1c28cdca86
this iphone have a mic
and support music using the dongle and phone using the normal headset profile which even ms bluetooth stack support

try search for this little software call BTAudio to turn on/off the audio from mp3 to your headset

Mono Bluetooth and Music

:roll: Has anyone managed to listen to music on mono bluetooth headset such as Jabar200 using magician. I've looked and read lots of forums but do not seem to find an answer. I've tried the two bluetooth stacks mentioned on this web site, but all use A2DP. I just want a way to be able to use my headset for telephone conversation when its needed and listen to my MP3s when I am driving.

I've tried opening an audio gateway on the Magician and it transfers phonecalls to the headset, but not non-call audio. On WM5 Uni this does work.
That's with the standard bluetooth stack.
V

What's the reason of having such a bad audio quality for listening music anyway?
The only good reason I can see for this are voice command applications.

Hi!
It works just fine on my i730 and it has 4.21.1088 on it.
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this is from other forum for samsung i730
we all need find somebody who has this device & try to get some data from i730 , this registry key
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth
and
for example if the way [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway]
has these parametrs (this from Qtek9100 also could be find)
"BTAGExtModule"="OEMAGW.dll"
"BTAGPBModule"="\\Windows\\BthAGPhonebook.dll"
so we need OEMAGW.dll & BthAGPhonebook.dll
for make an experiment

Anyone want to have a look through these 39 pages?
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=43586
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39539&highlight=AudioGateway
Can anyone confirm if a Blueangel or other non WM5 patch has been made? I'll have a play.
V

Bluetooth Carkit Parrot CK3100 and TyTn

Hi guys! This is my first post here, so please help me!
I wish to know if it's possible to connect my HTC TyTn to the Parrot CK3100 and to listen TomTom's indications through the car stereo instead through the TyTn itself. Is there a way to do that?
Thanks a lot!

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foggypunk said:
Hi guys! This is my first post here, so please help me!
I wish to know if it's possible to connect my HTC TyTn to the Parrot CK3100 and to listen TomTom's indications through the car stereo instead through the TyTn itself. Is there a way to do that?
Thanks a lot!
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Don't have Parrot....
What I use is JetWare Mobile bluetooth extension on my WM6 and it allows me to make and receive calls through my car stereo as well as use voice commander through my car stereo or use my Motorola headset to switch from listening to music on my PC and answering / making calls from my PDA (all automatically)... They have a beta on there site that will allow you to do this. From what I read of your message your only looking for TomTom and Phone so you may only need to use the standard version. The other thing that may be a problem is your car stereo not sure of its capabilities. My stereo has 2 bluetooth connections one for the phone and the other is for the stereo input. I paired the phone to the phone and the stereo to Voice Command (you could use TomTom instead) Sadly don't know much about GPS/TomTom and don't know if it needs voice commands, but do know you need to hear it. BTW its not free, but they have a trial period so you can see if it works for you.
Best of Luck!

I have an answer and a question...
If this was your first post I assume that you have the original rom on your tytn (wm5)
I could listen tomtom and mp3 files by Parrot's bluetooth (ck3100) when I had the original rom using this little app and modifying something in the registry (because the modifications of the registry that made by default this app does'nt works fine for me, read the threath for more info and or if you have issues)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278778
Now have the back majik rom and works fine with parrot, it shows more info than before, but I've tried withouth success using the same method and tomtom doesn't speaks me by the car's sound system yet...
Someone can help me please?
thanks in advance

A2DP from windows mobile 6 to hearing aids?

Hi!
I'm not sure if this is the right forum, so if I am wring, please let me know where to post it.
I would like to use my older smartphone (an HTC touch diamond 1) as an mp3 player for my daughter. She has hearing aids capable of using bluetooth, the device actually receiving bluetooth is known as "Oticon Streamer".
I tried installing A2DP toggler, the program seems to work in general (I can connect to the Oticon Streamer, it is recognized as bluetooth headset, I can only switch A2DP on while streamer is actually on and connected), but eventually it does not work: sound comes always and only through the speakers. For playing music (mostly mp3) I am using mort player.
Do I need special software for playing music files when I want to send them to A2DP or is there something I could try to make it working?
Any ideas are appreciated! Thanks!

You don't need any 3rd-party add-on/SW to get bluetooth working for A2DP. The MS bluetooth stack on WM6.1 on HTC diamond1 should have everything you need. I have the same HTC phone and I also use BT stereo headsets which supports A2DP. Just pair the hearing aids if it supports A2DP.