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Opera 8.60 for Windows Mobile, Pocket PC

Download and info here:
http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/products/winmobileppc/
MaX

Downloaded the cab, installed to storage card (the new version removed the old version), ran Opera, it asked me if I wanted to register (17 Euros), I said Okay.
Then I had to tell Opera.com my IMEI in order to get a registration code. I found the IMEI in Settings\Indentity.
When I received the reg code, I ran Opera, selected Tools\register, and then there appeared a box asking for the reg code plus another box showing the "Device ID". The device ID number was completely different from my IMEI, and needless to say, now opera does not accept the registration code. Now I have to write Opera for a new reg code.
So, I would advise all to check the "device id" that opera uses, and provide that number when requesting the registration code, rather than the IMEI found in your PPC's Settings.

Is it just me, or does the large icon for opera have a white background (rather than being a ransparent background as it should be)?

BillB said:
Is it just me, or does the large icon for opera have a white background (rather than being a ransparent background as it should be)?
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also here!!!!
using pocketplus large icon....
MaX

Just my two cents, I've been a big user of the data service, particularly browsing, and found Opera the best browser... almost. A much better alternative is to RDP home, and use whatever you have there. No more need to worry about user agent strings, java or flash, plus, it's (suprisingly) a lot faster. The VJ fullscreenTSC utility is particulary useful for that purpose.

mdaexecfan said:
Just my two cents, I've been a big user of the data service, particularly browsing, and found Opera the best browser... almost. A much better alternative is to RDP home, and use whatever you have there. No more need to worry about user agent strings, java or flash, plus, it's (suprisingly) a lot faster. The VJ fullscreenTSC utility is particulary useful for that purpose.
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Was thinking of trialling Netfront - Can i ask why you think Opera beats Netfront in your eyes?
Thanks
Matt

i was using netfront before i switched to opera and i must say that opera is the best by far.

I find Opera completely useless for most sites:
try www.o2.co.uk on both Opera and Netfront 3.3 and see the difference.
or try new.bbc.co.uk on both
THERE IS NO WAY I WILL EVER USE OPERA.

matt1971 said:
Was thinking of trialling Netfront - Can i ask why you think Opera beats Netfront in your eyes?
Matt
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Because with the 'fit to screen' option, Opera resizes the pixs and everything on the webpages - keeping them in proportion with the text. Netfront doesnt, so you end up with horizontal scroolbars and unreadable pages, while the opera-rendered ones looks just like the ones on a regular desktop computer.

I agree, my experience with opera is bad. It locks up all the time and can't be dissuaded from dumping tons of temp data in main storage memory.
Netfront is much better. The fonts on netfront are a bit wierd and its no way perfect though!

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try www.o2.co.uk on both Opera and Netfront 3.3 and see the difference.
or try new.bbc.co.uk on both
THERE IS NO WAY I WILL EVER USE OPERA."
No problem for the mentioned 2 sites if you'll to set OPERA to 'Fit to screen'

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Exactly - bbc.co.uk is brilliant on opera 'fit to screen'. I find it unusable on netfront.

Sorry, I meant to say the Opera is useless on Universal (mine MDA Pro) compared to NetFront.
I wouldn't use it if they paid me to.

One advantage is netfront 3.3 allows you to log onto more secure sites and if you fiddle with the settings does look and work better for me than Opera but they still haven't relesed the final pay for version and my trial version has ran out

samsul said:
Sorry, I meant to say the Opera is useless on Universal (mine MDA Pro) compared to NetFront.
I wouldn't use it if they paid me to.
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I use Opera on my Universal since the first Beta and all I can say is that it's the closest you can get to a "real" browsing experience on the PDA. The only "better" sollution would be to use some sort of RDP, as mentioned above.
I don't know what you do with your Universal, but on mine, in TrueVGA, Opera is simply great.

Almost as crappy as beta 2! Still very much work in progress - few bugs havn't been fixed, map hardware buttons??, flash??!. Also i'm not sure about you guys but Netfront (latest TP - D2) seems to render about 90% of websites (using WiFi) much quicker than Opera and is more responsive too. What's up with that?!?

Has anyone read the press release fully?
Here it is. http://www.opera.com/pressreleases/en/2006/05/31/
One bit that jumped out at me was this.
The first operators to ship Windows Mobile devices with Opera Mobile(TM) pre-installed are T-Mobile through their Web'n'Walk offering, and the leading Japanese operator, Willcom.
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Has anyone seen Opera on a released T-mobile phone, or is it more likely the t-mobile have been holding up the release of ROMs in the UK market until they could put Opera out at the same time? If this is true then should we be expecting to see an AKU2 ROM for the MDA PRO with opera embedded sometime soon?

matt1971 said:
Was thinking of trialling Netfront - Can i ask why you think Opera beats Netfront in your eyes?
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I have found NetFront to be AWESOME. I have it set so I see full webpages with very little jumbling or problems.
Combine it with FlexMail and you got a basic internet package on the go..
That said, I will give the new Opera a spin.. Why not.. Everything since I installed the latest DOPOD ROM has been working flawlessly and well I cant have that..
Charles

samsul said:
Sorry, I meant to say the Opera is useless on Universal (mine MDA Pro) compared to NetFront.
I wouldn't use it if they paid me to.
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Considering that the opinions are so divergent, yet we all come equipped with (pretty similar) sets of eyeballs, I reckon I'm going to take screenshots of both netfront and opera rendering of common webpages and will post them here.

I am a web designer and think the differences of opinions are all to do with how the site's are coded in terms of fixed widths and such like in the html or xhtml and CSS.
Netfront is definitly better for me as web designer for checking on the fly changes for clients sites but for simply viewing sites informtion then I think the new opera mini works quite well and keeps data trafic low.

Browser

Hi everyone,
Hum, i'm looking for a browser for my elf, but i couldn't find any that didn't remake the page to a smartphone-type.
Anyone knows a browser that keeps the pages like a desktop pc?
Thks
MBC

This is a brand new
Check Skyfire
http://www.skyfire.com/
If you live in USA you are able to sign up for private beta, recommend you search xda-developers forums, there are a couple of threads already.

mrblackcat said:
Hi everyone,
Hum, i'm looking for a browser for my elf, but i couldn't find any that didn't remake the page to a smartphone-type.
Anyone knows a browser that keeps the pages like a desktop pc?
Thks
MBC
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try opera mini,works well for me. free and very easy to use. finger movement and zoom also can take over pie for downloads

Picsel Browser

hey wuub:
My picsel browser just seems slow all of the time. I've had a lot better luck with PIE on speed.

I used picsel for a while, until i found opera mini 4. It is much faster than picsel. It keeps your page in the desktop-like layout, but also formats the text so that it is readable (without having to pan around) when zommed in.
opera mini 4 is my suggestion, with esmertec jbed as your midlet manager

Hey Sturatt:
thnx for the info. Does Opera mini work well on the ppc's? I was looking at Opera's website & it looked like Opera Mobile was more for wm6 (but costs money) & Opera mini was more for the smartphones (and was free). PIE just doesn't do well for me but picsel really seems slow compared to PIE.

i have a mogul (ppc6800) and opera mini works great.
just install jbed, then go to www.operamini.com on your phone's IE, navigate to the opera mini 4 page and download (by default it goes to opera mini 3, you have to select a link to get to opera mini 4).

luiggi said:
Check Skyfire
http://www.skyfire.com/
If you live in USA you are able to sign up for private beta, recommend you search xda-developers forums, there are a couple of threads already.
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does anyone have a cab for this? don't live in the u.s. but dying to try this one

chrisd1a1 said:
does anyone have a cab for this? don't live in the u.s. but dying to try this one
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its not out yet

Ibis browser
Hi
I find new browser (shareware ) is name is ibis browser. I try it i was beautiful and on second open it bug
Now I try to reinstall it and always same problem, I can't open website.
Just try it
have good day
yo

i use Opera Mini 4 on my HTC Artemis (P3300) works very well!

MagisterMY said:
hey wuub:
My picsel browser just seems slow all of the time. I've had a lot better luck with PIE on speed.
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Yes, Picsel IS slow - and has tons of other problems (low Web standards compliance, for example). I don't really recommend it. Opera Mini 4 is far better - in my opinion, of course.

xv6800 Compatible with Opera Mini.

I would like to know if opera mini is compatible with my verizon xv6800. According to the opera mini web site it is not. If it is compatible, do I need to install something else for it to work?

Yes, its compatable. Download the high memory version of Opera Mini 4 and you should be good to go. Good luck.

Verizon doesn't ship Java with the XV6800, so Opera Mini won't run natively. You have to either install a Java client (search the links here for a recommendation) or install a new ROM that includes a Java client (the DCD kitchen includes Java as an option). Once you install Java and Opera Mini, you'll actually run Opera Mini from within Java. Opera won't appear in your programs list.

spectraphysics said:
Verizon doesn't ship Java with the XV6800, so Opera Mini won't run natively. You have to either install a Java client (search the links here for a recommendation) or install a new ROM that includes a Java client (the DCD kitchen includes Java as an option). Once you install Java and Opera Mini, you'll actually run Opera Mini from within Java. Opera won't appear in your programs list.
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Or you could always switch to Sprint. And get free mobile Broadband on your laptop.

Corrykid said:
Or you could always switch to Sprint. And get free mobile Broadband on your laptop.
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Quit posting this crap or get banned.
To answer the question, yes opera mini is compatible after installing a java manager. I use mini 4 and 4.1 on my 6800. Works 1000 times better than the pocket ie for 99% of browsing.

I can confirm as well. I used emerstec jbed and opera mini 4.1 beta and I love it. Pages load in a few seconds, even ones with a lot of graphics (xda-forums main page with all the phone pics). I also have opera 9 mobile beta and rarely use it anymore since opera mini is several times faster at loading pages. I haven't had many rendering issues when loading pages either. There is a good thread in the development and hacking sub forum with all the files you need.

Anyone figured out how to load the new Opera Mini 4.1 with the touch of the IE button? Or how to get it to work as the default browser?

New Opera Mini 4.1 version released !!

Hello,
Today was released to the public Opera Mini v4.1
You can download it here, or here for the signed versions.
One of the new features of this version is Direct address input, that makes a lot easier to input any web address.
But I'm having a trouble with it.
I'm using the latest Esmertec Jbed, build 20080222.3.1, and Opera Mini (all versions) runs in full screen without up and down bar. And without that I can't activate the keyboard...
Does anyone knows how to prevent Opera Mini to lauch in fullscreen??
By the way, here's the latest Esmertec Jbed version

Yeah, the best browser for low traffic, i`m using it on my MPx200

wow amazing we can actually download and upload files through opera mini now.

cheers does anyone know how to stop the anoying "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar)?? I tried all the signed Midlett installs, but none of them worked, just got a error saying "Midlet no signed". Ended up installing Opera Mini unsigned. (Using TAO Java)
Cheers,

mugglesquop said:
cheers does anyone know how to stop the anoying "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar)?? I tried all the signed Midlett installs, but none of them worked, just got a error saying "Midlet no signed". Ended up installing Opera Mini unsigned. (Using TAO Java)
Cheers,
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Try with Esmertec Java

"Opera claims the new version is 50% faster than Opera Mini 4.0"
can anyone confirm this ? if this is true this alone would make it worth upgrading.
also I have my Opera Mini set up as default browser thru that hack that's going around. if I upgrade do I have to do that over ? And will I lose my bookmarks and everything ?
thanks for the help !

4.1 is supposed to handle downloads now too! About time...

Yup that is very true noellenchris, and it works very good on my S710 using latest esmertec jbed!!!

PLESTIUC said:
"Opera claims the new version is 50% faster than Opera Mini 4.0"
can anyone confirm this ? if this is true this alone would make it worth upgrading.
also I have my Opera Mini set up as default browser thru that hack that's going around. if I upgrade do I have to do that over ? And will I lose my bookmarks and everything ?
thanks for the help !
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I thought I read somewhere that opera 4.1 is ".. UP to 50% faster than 4.0 ..." in the Kaiser Software section".
If you install 4.1, you have to redo your bookmarks, speed dials, rss feeds, etc. To me, it's worth it. I can see the speed increase in page rendering and the auto completion for a web address is a nice time saving feature as well. There is a minor bug though ... you can't backspace when typing an web address. You have to 'insert symbol' in the drop down box to edit the web address. I uninstalled 4.0 for 4.1. But you can install 4.1 and still keep 4.0 if you wanted to since these are two diferent versions of the same app.

robosiris said:
I thought I read somewhere that opera 4.1 is ".. UP to 50% faster than 4.0 ..." in the Kaiser Software section".
If you install 4.1, you have to redo your bookmarks, speed dials, rss feeds, etc. To me, it's worth it. I can see the speed increase in page rendering and the auto completion for a web address is a nice time saving feature as well. There is a minor bug though ... you can't backspace when typing an web address. You have to 'insert symbol' in the drop down box to edit the web address. I uninstalled 4.0 for 4.1. But you can install 4.1 and still keep 4.0 if you wanted to since these are two diferent versions of the same app.
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very informative. thank you.

onesolo said:
Hello,
Today was released to the public Opera Mini v4.1
You can download it here, or here for the signed versions.
One of the new features of this version is Direct address input, that makes a lot easier to input any web address.
But I'm having a trouble with it.
I'm using the latest Esmertec Jbed, build 20080222.3.1, and Opera Mini (all versions) runs in full screen without up and down bar. And without that I can't activate the keyboard...
Does anyone knows how to prevent Opera Mini to lauch in fullscreen??
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I am having the same problem
can't access my on screen keyboard can anyone help?

PPC version
Is there an actual PPC version?
Or does it only work with JAVA??
I see all downloads there is .jar .jad and blackberry versions
Any info?

Thought it was always a JAVA application, would love to see a native PPC version though.

chrisd1a1 said:
I am having the same problem
can't access my on screen keyboard can anyone help?
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menu->tools->settings then uncheck Direct address input will allow the on screen keyboard to work.

chrisd1a1 said:
I am having the same problem
can't access my on screen keyboard can anyone help?
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Try to in settings uncheck 'Direct address input' options.

mugglesquop said:
cheers does anyone know how to stop the anoying "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar)?? I tried all the signed Midlett installs, but none of them worked, just got a error saying "Midlet no signed". Ended up installing Opera Mini unsigned. (Using TAO Java)
Cheers,
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Hmm, I'm using the multi-signed version and no longer asks "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar) bla bla talk...
Maybe it's because you are using TAO Java. Try to use Esmertec Jbed, it's the best virtual machine...

onesolo said:
Hmm, I'm using the multi-signed version and no longer asks "do you want to let Opera on the web" (or something similar) bla bla talk...
Maybe it's because you are using TAO Java. Try to use Esmertec Jbed, it's the best virtual machine...
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Same here no problems with Esmertec Jbed. Lovin OperaMini even more..!
Chris

You just didn't get the point....
minz215 said:
menu->tools->settings then uncheck Direct address input will allow the on screen keyboard to work.
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yeah, we all know that, but that's not what we want. We want Direct address input enable and to be able to use the soft keyboard (for example on my Prophet). And because Opera mini stays in Fullscreen, due to the upper and lower bars, we can't acess the soft keyboard. Get it??
By the way, my father has an Sony Ericsson K800i, I tested a few minutes ago, and the version of Operamini for that mobile has an option to enable/disable the fullscreen. Damn it!!

minz215 said:
menu->tools->settings then uncheck Direct address input will allow the on screen keyboard to work.
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cheers for that, can at least add my bookmarks

Works like a charm with esmertec jbed. I had some trouble downloading the signed version, since downloading from pocketIE automatically launched the tao midlet manager (which didn't recognize the bertificate btw), so i ended up going to mini.opera.com/beta with firefox with wap plugin installed and grabbing the high memory .jad signed with multiple certificates from there
Having signed version allows to permanently allow access to internet and filesystem.
For the direct address input - it seems to work only with numerical keys (so a sip like phone pad should work). Disabling the direct url input allows to use normal keyboard SIP or hardware keyboard just like in previous version.
Downloading really does work - that's probably the best feature of new opera - no more pocketIE launching needed
Overall, i really like the new version. The only change i would like to see in in is allowing to use hardware keyboard with direct URL entry.

New Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta and T9 Keyboard

My addition to this community.
Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta just released today. Almost like a real browser, only thing missing is Flash still. This is not the Opera mini.
http://www.mediafire.com/?teydzy2ztjj
HTC Atom Phonepad with T9, a virtual on screen keyboard that looks like a phone pad with T9. You can type with your finger with the bigger buttons. Very very nice. I forget what these are called but if someone can reply with HTC Atom Phonepad with T9 and the name for these virtual keyboards so this can be found in searches.
http://www.mediafire.com/?pmxougeonmm
Let me know what you think!

anyone try this out on their wing yet? it is a beta..

Opera Mobile
9.5's been out for a while. It works well on the wing, blows PIE away on large pages, almost as fast as mini. But it installs to your \Windows folder and will not work off the storage card. It doesn't allow predictive text, it takes up about 6Mb of device memory, and 9Mb of ram. It's a good browser if you can spare the system resources.
Thanks for the phone pad, I'm trying it now.

I just wanted to give back to the community.
This is a new beta, beta 1 or something like that released today.

maybe this new beta of opera mobile is different, but i was able to install it to my sd card and it only took an extra 2mb from my storage.

Newer 9.51
This is 9.51b1 I had 9.5b1004. I'll load it up and test it out. Thanks for the update!

Do you know how we can set it up so that the Cache files etc are all on the SD Card too?

I installed it (I have t-mobile rom) on my sd card, and on the phone... the only issue I've run into so far is out of memory errors.
I've run the 6mb mem pool size mod and font/file cache mods on my phone and have resco mod and batterystatus mod w/vista theme.
any ideas?

Anybody knows how you can enable Active X,To view sites correctly Flash? their website says that it is disabled.

I don't think any mobile browser supports flash yet..

wing_addict_usa said:
I don't think any mobile browser supports flash yet..
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Nokia N95's browser..

babak said:
Anybody knows how you can enable Active X,To view sites correctly Flash? their website says that it is disabled.
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I don't know if this is ActiveX or a windows media plugin, but if you have a newer HTC device with Opera preinstalled (such as touch pro) and visit pages with a WMP embedded in them, it WORKS! However the one thing I can't figure out is how they did it because a stock Opera mobile beta does not work with WMP embedded at all on my Treo 700wx

wing_addict_usa said:
I don't think any mobile browser supports flash yet..
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Skyfire does, but i cant get it to connect using the proxy, only through wifi