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Tytn Dropping Calls Like Crazy...

Ok, I'm fed up now. My Tytn is dropping a ridiculous amount of calls lately, and I'm tired of it. I've set it to use GSM/GPRS only, so it's not an issue of switching between 2G and 3G.
My current ROM info is in my signature. I've been avoiding going to another ROM because I would never be able to go back to the original Tytn one if I wanted to. But now, I'm ready. I'm tired of the dropped calls.
So, with that being said... please, give me your suggestion of what ROM I should upgrade to.
Many thanks in advance,
SP111

Sleuth,
If you happen to read this, I'm interested in hearing about your setup as shown in your sig.

I'm using Dopod's Rom (Not the AUS one), it's quite good, snappy responsive. Once a while crashes if i leave wifi on over night, otherwise very stable. as for voice quality, it's amazing, havn't had problems with dropped calls. Before you change ur rom, i'd suggest u check that it's ur provider and not your fone. when u sure it's ur fone, try the dopod rom.

SP111,
I am experiencing the same problem. I am using the 8525. I changed SIM cards and that did not help much.
Hope to see what others think...
Wondermutt
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Cingular 8525
Rom 1.34.502.1 (stock)
Radio 1.16.00.00 (stock)

Put you SIM card in another phone (Nokia OR SE) and see if you face same problem, if yes, then it is RADIO signal problem in your Area. Otherwise the choice is in your hand to proceed for ROM upgrade on TyTn for Radio only. (See WiKi Pages for ROM Upgrade Radio Ver. 1.20.31.10).

why dont you try the new ROM 1.35????.
there are good comments about it. I will upgrade my vodafone v1605 to it..
good luck
ASZ

For me is was a matter of which provider I used. I switched to another (from Tele2 to Telenor, if you're Norwegian ) and I never had that problem again...

Sorry, I should have been more clear about one point... I still have my Cingular 2125 (HTC Faraday) as well as my old Audiovox SMT5600, and I have tested these phones with my SIM, and do NOT experience problems with dropped calls. So I'm pretty sure it's the Tytn.

My TyTN is on Cingular. I've never had a dropped call. I do have some issues picking up calls though. Interestingly, I the same issues with my Cingular 8125 (wizard).

Please help!! SX66 radio

I've loved my Blue Angel for 2 1/2 years thanks to xda-developers, but right now I just wanna throw it away!
I have a Cingular SX66 (PH20B1) running WM6 from Xplode (6.00.00.WWE) and the radio 1.15. After I upgraded to WM6 everything was kind of OK I thought, until I realized that sometimes calls weren't getting through to me and I was getting 'No service' too often. That's when I upgraded the radio to 1.15. I was getting the no radio error, but I found through searching that if I soft reset and keep the phone charged the radio comes back.
Here's my problem.. even when the phone gets out of 'No service' and finds the network (even showing me full signal strength) I can't make calls! Calls won't come through to me! It's pretty useless as a phone, but it seems to be usually able to send text messages if I have the network. It takes endless soft resets and long waiting just to get it to see the network, and then the phone still doesn't work.
The sim card is fine, and it seems the problem is the same if I downgrade to 2003SE (by the way, I only seem to find T-mobile ROMs that work.. don't know where the WM2003SE ROM is I originally had on here).
The phone only seems to work sometimes if I after I soft-reset, I make the call while the BA is still on the cradle.
If anyone knows of a solution I'd really appreciate it.. on WM2003 my SX66 would only act funny if the charge fell to 60%. Now it's wacky with all the up/downgrading/charging/soft-resetting I've tried.
Thanks!

Additional info
I don't know if this is related, but I have the storage almost full of installed programs and the device is much slower now. Also, the Data Connection buttion is grayed out in HTC Comm Manager.
The phone seems to be working right now. Give it an hour and it'll probably be wacked again

Final solution for 'No service'
Hi burnblue...
Try this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340557
This resolved my problem...
1) In WM2003 and install bandsel .CAB
2) Choose a band of your operator gsm/country (in Brazil, for my operator is 900/1800Mhz (Operator "Claro" and "TIM")... here in Brazil we have another operator what works in 850mHz (Operator "Vivo").
3) If you want, upgrade your rom for WM6 (much better)... your band selection will be fixed (came to wm2003). I don´t undertand about fixing a band remain after rom version upgrade... No explain about this.
No more issue about radio gsm signal, be happy....
Works perfect to me, I´m 100% certain about this procedure.
Rodrigo Pelosini
burnblue said:
I've loved my Blue Angel for 2 1/2 years thanks to xda-developers, but right now I just wanna throw it away!
I have a Cingular SX66 (PH20B1) running WM6 from Xplode (6.00.00.WWE) and the radio 1.15. After I upgraded to WM6 everything was kind of OK I thought, until I realized that sometimes calls weren't getting through to me and I was getting 'No service' too often. That's when I upgraded the radio to 1.15. I was getting the no radio error, but I found through searching that if I soft reset and keep the phone charged the radio comes back.
Here's my problem.. even when the phone gets out of 'No service' and finds the network (even showing me full signal strength) I can't make calls! Calls won't come through to me! It's pretty useless as a phone, but it seems to be usually able to send text messages if I have the network. It takes endless soft resets and long waiting just to get it to see the network, and then the phone still doesn't work.
The sim card is fine, and it seems the problem is the same if I downgrade to 2003SE (by the way, I only seem to find T-mobile ROMs that work.. don't know where the WM2003SE ROM is I originally had on here).
The phone only seems to work sometimes if I after I soft-reset, I make the call while the BA is still on the cradle.
If anyone knows of a solution I'd really appreciate it.. on WM2003 my SX66 would only act funny if the charge fell to 60%. Now it's wacky with all the up/downgrading/charging/soft-resetting I've tried.
Thanks!
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"no service" is a issue...
Your problem about slower is another problem...
Storage full ~ slower... I had problem´s about these in anothers pda´s.
Take easy to storage your files, much components in today screen, etc...
Use sd card, this help.
Upgrade for Wm6 (xplode rom) and be happy...
WM6 by xplode is faster.
What´s your radio rom version? 1.15 ?
If < 1.15, then upgrade....
Rodrigo Pelosini
burnblue said:
I don't know if this is related, but I have the storage almost full of installed programs and the device is much slower now. Also, the Data Connection buttion is grayed out in HTC Comm Manager.
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not yet
Thanks for the advice rod, but I still have problems.
1. I saw that thread too, and it's not that I have totally 'No service' -- I have signal but calls just won't connect. It might work one minute, but 90% of the time it just doesn't.
2. I can't find a working ROM for my SX66 to downgrade to 2003. I remember weeks ago when I was trying to fix this I think I found a T-mobile ROM, but nothing is working for my downgrade now.
Why is my phone radio so unreliable?

Strange problem...
I have some tests for you...
1) Do you enable PIN ? If yes, then disable.
2) Do you upgrade your radio rom to 1.15? No? Then apply.
3) Do you have problems with anothers gsm chip ? Your SX66 is gsm or cdma ? Possible issue in your gsm chip, maybe... Try another gsm, another operator...
4) What´s the message errors or problems with upgrade or downgrade rom ?
If your sx66 is a cdma phone, sorry, I don´t have any idea how to help you.
In this case, ignore all my questions. My experience in Blue Angel is about gsm...
Take care...
(Send a message if you resolve or not this case...)
Rodrigo
burnblue said:
Thanks for the advice rod, but I still have problems.
1. I saw that thread too, and it's not that I have totally 'No service' -- I have signal but calls just won't connect. It might work one minute, but 90% of the time it just doesn't.
2. I can't find a working ROM for my SX66 to downgrade to 2003. I remember weeks ago when I was trying to fix this I think I found a T-mobile ROM, but nothing is working for my downgrade now.
Why is my phone radio so unreliable?
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Reception difficulties

UPDATE!!
It seems that a solution for the problems has been found for:
- Reception difficulties
- BAD gsm performance
- No reception on the phone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389601
Please go to this URL, read it, upgrade your broken polaris device and respond in the poll that it either worked for your or didn't
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Hi guys,
after upgrading my Polaris from the default supplied rom 1.58.21.23 to the latest 1.64.08.21, I have no reception in my house and even difficult reception on the street.
I reversed back to version 1.58.21.23, but even then, still have issues with reception.
Does anybody have the same problem, or had the same problem and find a fix?
Rroet

Hello,
I do have the same problem, and got it on the same way as you did?
could someone please help us?

Do you have the same difficulty as I do:
I've followed the procedures as described in manuals everywhere:
- remove the memory card
- be happily synced
- start app
- device goes into the tricolor screen
- replug the usb as described on the polaris screen
- Flashing startssss.... goes... goes...
- HANGS at 99%
- Have to do recovery procedure as shown on screen.
- Flashing procedure starts second time
- hits 100%
- Now i've got a bad reception? On my previous polaris (replaced due to a phonespeaker defect) had 2 bars even after upgrading. My new Polaris doesn't have any bars after I upgraded (It did have 2 bars before upgrading)
Any expert here with information?

I'm having the same issue, by upgrading RADIO 1.58.21.23 to the latest 1.64.08.21 I got weak signal on GSM. Two bars on signal icon on the top near the BTS.
I'm using BEPE 0.67 ROM with WM 6.1, downgrading the RADIO doesn't help. I have searched thru this forum and didn't find any relevant solution

I was having the same problem with you. I have tried everything including flashing every rom/radio available and performing hard resets at every stage. Unfortunately, in the end I had to get my cruise replaced.
These are my original Cruise details, just to see if there is anything in common:
HK Traditional Chinese HTC Cruise
1.27.832.1. CHT
01/10/08
1.58.21.23
25.65.30.04H

Very interesting issue
I read this several times in different threads now.
Fortunately myself doesn't suffer this issue and i have
also upgraded to 1.64.08.21. Lucky one.
Maybe one should start a poll about this
Would be nice to know the results.
Olioaglio

I have this issue too after Hard-SPL and ASerg Rom, I have problems in o2 German network... very weak signalstrength 1/4 or mostly 0/4 (no network, denied).... i tried original radio 1.58.21.23 and 1.64.08.21 any1 know what could have happened? can a rom upgrade damage the radio hardware in any way? would be hard to believe... with german's BASE i have at least from 2/4 to 4/4 signal strength and sometimes I even get 3G... in my old o2 orbit (artemis) everything is at max strength

I have the same problem after flashing the 1.64.08.21 radio. Is there no solution?

I guess I am lucky, but with 1.64.08.21 and Bepe's 0.67 ROM I don't have any problems. There is no change at all. Signalstrength is the same, 3G is working fine.

1.64.08.21 and Bepe's 0.67 ROM
Me too
I have the o2 orbit 2 (POLA200)

Rroet said:
after upgrading my Polaris from the default supplied rom 1.58.21.23 to the latest 1.64.08.21, I have no reception in my house and even difficult reception on the street.
I reversed back to version 1.58.21.23, but even then, still have issues with reception.
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Strange, I'm using also 1.64.08.21 and it's working like a charm... I do have another network provider (KPN, not t-mobile). Have 4 bars reception... Never had real problems with the reception too...
POLA100 (Touch cruise). Only my flash of radio succeeded in 1 time (not had to reboot before hitting the 100%). Also The Netherlands, so it doesn't seem to be country bounded.
Does it find your network? (Menu => settings => Phone (on personal tab)) then choose tab Network.
Current network: T-mobile
Network selection: Automatic
You can try Find Netwok over there, or Set network. Please also check the tab "Band", should be on Auto (both options).

My problem is when I manually check networks, I can find KPN NL and Orange NL everywhere, but not T-Mobile or Vodafone.. whilest on my wife's Vox I have 3 bars of network, on my N73 (nokia) I have 3-4 bars as well.
VERY ODD!

is it possible radio of pola100 and pola200 are different, even they share the same version number?

mavvy4ever said:
is it possible radio of pola100 and pola200 are different
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Could be, but then again, Rroet and I are having the same devices (pola100), are living in the same country, having the same radio version (the 1.64.08.21), the only difference is that he has another provider (which I can find if I search for networks)
Rroet said:
My problem is when I manually check networks, I can find KPN NL and Orange NL everywhere, but not T-Mobile or Vodafone.. whilest on my wife's Vox I have 3 bars of network, on my N73 (nokia) I have 3-4 bars as well.
VERY ODD!
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In June I will switch network (to Vodafone)... I hope it all keeps working... Really strange that you can't find your network anymore. If I scan for networks I see them all (also Vodafone and T-Mobile).
(Think you've allready done this) but what will happen if you give your device a hard reset, or flash Windows Mobile again to your mobile... This because I'm having the same device, can find your network and having the same radio version.

hi there!
I unfortunately got the same issue.
I got a XDA Orbit 2 from O2 Germany. Did the hardspl unlock(used the tool from olipro) after that i flashed the bepe 0.67 premium bepe rom.
Right now my orbit is disconnected most of the time, or has real bad signal strength. It would be very great if this can be fixed.
Greets
EDIT:
flashed the 1.64.08.21 got the same prob.
Got another orbit2 with everything in original delivery state. is there a possibility to "clone" the device back to original state?

I got very bad reception when update radio 1.64.08.21 . it frequenly lost connection when I got phone call , tried to downgrade and no result
I have vodafone simcard and now I must force to swich to 3g connection to make a phone call . when Iam on gsm I conldnot make any phone call at all , I am now just wait and see someone smart to show me how to correct this trouble
the phone work on my 3 sim but it is not as good as it was before

To make it complete: I have the O2 Orbit 2 (german) (POLA200) and I
have ugraded to the 1.64.08.21 without glitches (worked at first time,
did it through bootloader mode) and it is working with the same (good)
reception as it did before (phuuuh). Maybe it has something to do with
the flash problems at first time, which some users had. Could someone
sort it out? It's really goring, that even (successful) backflash to the stock
radio does not seem to fix the issue like the Poll indicates
Olioaglio
Edit: using Bepe 0.64 GER Opera with the Orbit2 ATM.
Edit2: Thought it might be a good idea to crosslink this thread to the
Polaris Radio ROMs thread to get things together.

What about the IMEI number btw?
I don't know if this is what happens by default, but my IMEI number is 2 digits longer in the software, then it is in the hardware:
example of my hardware IMEI: 123
in software it reads 12301
Does this matter in any way?

Interesting stuff... as Olioaglio said maybe there´s a relation to how it was flashed. If it was clean install or the process had to be repeated. Can anyone with this problem report back on this issue. I tried the new radio here in Spain but I went back to the stock radio as it seemed to have a better reception and battery life. I must admit I´m rather cautious about trying different radios as I fried my Hermes due to the radio and now it can´t connect at all.

I've had no problems/glitches during the flash process but I have the same reception problems as everyone else. Even using a friend's SIM with a different carrier made no difference in reception.

Herm100 used in australia

My Hermes(imate jasjam) was previously used on the telstra network but I suppose because it wasn't updated at the time, I presumed, had problems with the nextG 3G network in terms of receiving a strong enough signal.....I've since got rid of the testra rom and installed a different ROM and Spl....my RGB screen now reads:
HERM100
IPL-1.04
HERM100
SPL-2.10.Olipro
But no mather what simcard I put in it...the signal keeps droping.I've tried vodafone and optus and it still has a very weak signal.....Is this a hardware or software problem?Should I try the Radiocodes too?It sounds like another fight against the windmills.......
Please hit me up with some suggestions....I am very very frustrated!!!

Check your radio version, go to settings>system>device information.
I'm with Telstra and I use 1.54.30.10 as it seems to be the best reception for me. I did notice however when I went out to Dubbo that the signal was weak and drained the battery fast. This is normal but a pain, in Newcastle theres no problem.
Location could be the problem too.....
Cheers...

Thanks...
My radio version is :1.47.30.10...is this one known to be bloody weak or what?
Thanx for the quick answer mate!!

Terrible connection strength

Since I took advantage of the orange ****-up and moved to O2, i just cant make phone calls from home.
From other places its fine, but at home its awful.
I have tried the O2 sim in another phone and its perfect, so I dont think its the phone masts.
I have spoken to O2 and they tell me the account is provisioned but unavailable to send my HTC the settings as they dont support the phone at all.
Is there anything I can do?

Sometimes it happens, you can always try a different radio. Some radios will improve reception in different areas. As an extra quirk, some can even improve battery life!
Take a look here for more info:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Radio
Just a word of caution however, you might want to get your HD Security unlocked first before flashing a new radio.

Can you list what ROM/loader/radio version you're using (I assume that you've unlocked an Orange handset)? Sometimes if you've got mixed up versions, the signal quality will suffer - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557843 for someone with a similar problem after flashing their phone.
Different phones will always show some variation in connectivity; it's just a fact of life - but at most about 30% variation. If your other handset has 5 bars and the HD has one or zero, something is wrong with it. Also, since your handset is unlocked it might help to try a payg SIM from another operator (getting a free SIM is easy, and if you don't make calls it won't cost you to stick it in and look at the signal). We carry one from every operator, just in case we're stuck in a region with bad coverage and need to call someone urgently.

More info
I have tried a few different ROMs but currently using Duttys 6.5 R12 revised rom.
Radio is currently 1.14 but I have tried 1.16 in the past with no improvement.
My handset is unlocked (using the link on this forum).
In the other phone (an old Nokia) its perfect signal, 5 bars, but in the HD it ranges from 4 bars to none and all inbetween, quickly changing all the time too.
I might try and get hold of a PAYG O2 sim and see if thats any different.

c_lee said:
Can you list what ROM/loader/radio version you're using (I assume that you've unlocked an Orange handset)? Sometimes if you've got mixed up versions, the signal quality will suffer - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=557843 for someone with a similar problem after flashing their phone.
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Read through that and my bootloader screen is fine and shows SPL 1.56 Olinex security unlocked.
So I dont think thats the problem.

I have the same problem!
Got the HD yesterday, and reception goes from 0 to 4 bars all the time. When sim is in my other pdas it fine. I have an unlocked HD on o2.
My bootloader screen shows SPL-1.54.0000
Tried an orange sim and got 4 bars

Telephone connectin strength
I have the same problem.
At home impossible to call. On the road connection is regularly lost (when moving from one ground station to the next I suspect). This feels like the coverage problems in de mid 90s.
ROM 1.56.404.1
Radio 1.13.25.24
Provider Proximus

New sim did not help
onverbe said:
I have the same problem.
At home impossible to call. On the road connection is regularly lost (when moving from one ground station to the next I suspect). This feels like the coverage problems in de mid 90s.
ROM 1.56.404.1
Radio 1.13.25.24
Provider Proximus
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19/10 I asked for a new sim card from my provider but that has made no difference.