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Did I buy my MDA Vario too soon?

I just got my Vario, but now i am thinking that i should have waited for the Vario II (Hermes?). Have i made a mistake? Should i send it back under my 7 day return and wait?

aint being funny but i fink it looks crap...
http://www.newmobile.nl/eur/en/photos.php?phone_id=18fc907
i'd rather have the current Vario...as it's got style to it....that looks like a simple t mobile phone :roll: looks a bit blaah if u get me

Eh? I think it look pretty nice, better than the Vario I. And a 400Mhz CPU? I would not mind some of that.
What should i do?!

well the 200mhz aint bad....plays movies without a problem...music is fine...tom tom works; so it aint a bad phone...
but if your main concern is the CPU speed then go for it...

I think the hermes looks like a great device, an evolution on the current vario. If you can wait and afford the difference in price go for it, i'm sure it will be a cracking device.
Otherwise go for the vario, the hermes being available will not make the vario any less useful and there are already loads of hacks available for the vario.
A tough choice, but bear in mind even if you hold out for the hermes, there is always somethings bigger and better just around the corner.
whichever decision you make enjoy your device
R

No matter what phone you choose to buy, there will always be something better coming out on the horizon

mattucd said:
No matter what phone you choose to buy, there will always be something better coming out on the horizon
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Agreed, but the when the device is coming out so soon (this month?) it might be worth waiting.

Where are you based ?
I just got a vario and asked about release date of vario 2 ... (Assuming you actally mean the vario rather than i-mate or xda mini S) then Germany will be getting it this month but the T-Mobile aren't planning on releasing it in the UK till Q3 (ie October at the earliest)
BTW isn't it a 300Mhz CPU rather than a 400 Mhz one ??
HTH

Too soon? You mean too late!
I've had mine for aaages now, i'm nearly ready for an upgrade!

Other than that rather tasty looking camera application on the Vario 2 i think the XDA Mini S looks far nicer, as an ex XDA IIi user im finding it very hard to fault the XDA Mini S at all, its a great phone.

The Front-side looks okay to me, but the keyboard is ugly as hell, I like the keyboard of the MDA Vario a whole lot more.

I'm also keeping an eye out for the hermes but i haven't heard anything about any official release dates. I'm leaning toward the Imate branded JasJam but no clue when its coming out. Anyone have an idea? also is its 3g/umts compatible with the Cingular 3g?

At last I heard, the Hermes will not be compatible with US 3G networks, but that may change by the release by Imate or Qtek.
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hi, im also having the same dilemma, i currently have the imate JAMin and looking to get a device with a keyboard and im leaning towards the imate k-jam, but i am eagerly awaiting the release of the hermes or imate JASJAM.......i dont know if i should wait for the hermes or get the k-jam for now.......i have emailed and called the imate company in dubai and they advised me that they have no idea when this device will be released internationally......it is still under testing they said.....

irv777 said:
hi, im also having the same dilemma, i currently have the imate JAMin and looking to get a device with a keyboard and im leaning towards the imate k-jam, but i am eagerly awaiting the release of the hermes or imate JASJAM.......i dont know if i should wait for the hermes or get the k-jam for now.......i have emailed and called the imate company in dubai and they advised me that they have no idea when this device will be released internationally......it is still under testing they said.....
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i'm actually looking for an i-mate jamin and i currently have a vario (k-jam). i'd gladly trade mine for yours.

You dont say which country you are in so we can give you valid advice. The vario 2 has a 300mhz processor and uses a microsd slot - so 1gb max for now. It has a better camera but far as i can see does not have stereo speakers like the vario. If sound is a priority or if you already have a minisd card stick with the vario - otherwise go for the vario 2, i am certain that overall it is a better device. see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41660

waiting can be fruitless
I've waited since November for the Nokia N80 to be released. It was always just around the corner. Now here we are in May and still no US N80. There are even rumors that it will not be released due to some G3 issue.
I wish I wouldn't have waited and just got the Cingular 8125 back in November. I could have been enjoying it the last six months.
Point is... you can drive yourself crazy always looking out on the horizon. I would recommend getting the current version and having fun with all the mods. When the Hermes comes out, give it another six months for more mods to come out and the price to drop and then you can switch again if you want. But by then rumors of Hermes II will be floating around with beter keyboard, 800mhz, 5mp camera, built in 10gb hard drive optionsl, thinner, built in GPS receiver. LOL Just my opinion.

My brother just got an N80. I had a friend of mine buy it for him from Saudi Arabia and then had one of my friend's mom bring it with her to texas. But i'm gonna say its gonna be a while (2 to 3 months) until it gets released on cingular.

Where to Purchase

I am with Cingular and refuse to sign another contract to get a phone...I prefer to get my phones without signing my life away.
I have done this with 3 phones so far an have been happy. No contract ext..... so I am seeing the 8125 go for just over 400 on Ebay.....anyone know why I can buy one for a good price.....maybe get some type a warr or at least someone to call....Ebay is so NOT personal....
Thanks for your help,
Biff

People over at Howard Forums swear by Mad Monkey Boy; he carries the Type 2 Wizards (i.e. Qtek 9100, iMate KJAM, T-Mobile MDA) which have slightly different exteriors than the 8125.

I think he was wanting something cheaper than $400.... That sight was showing the Wizard for $600 which you can buy locally for less than that. For best price check ebay and craigslist. I have noticed that the MDA is usually a little cheaper than the 8125 so if you do not care about the styling get the mda you can still put the 8125 rom on it if you wish.

3waygeek said:
People over at Howard Forums swear by Mad Monkey Boy; he carries the Type 2 Wizards (i.e. Qtek 9100, iMate KJAM, T-Mobile MDA) which have slightly different exteriors than the 8125.
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People on HF must be smoking crack. It's cheaper on ebay AND locally.
That site looks terrible too btw.

I bought my Cingular 8125 in store and didn't renew/extend my contract at all. I just told them i wanted to buy it for $350 (it may be less now) which was the "buy me now" price and there were no problems.

got mine in march
paid £300 in total i ended up with:
MDA Vario brand new security seal etc
1GB mini sd
Tom Tom
Bluetooth GPS
and car pda holder which sticks to the windscreen

have you tried the new ebay express?
Thats where i bought my wizard from
Its always poppin there wizards at around $400, some with even free shipping.
Its not auction, its an online store with a real checkout cart, shipping notification and tracking number. And ebay gives you a free buyer protection for the FULL amount!
http://express.ebay.com
a quick search on "8125" showed me some phones around $400-$445 shipped. And since its the 8125 for cingular you wont need to unlock it.
If at the time you search you dont find good deals on 8125, try searching for "MDA"
Trust me, this is ---THE--- way to go if you want a brand new cheap wizard without extending contract.

I ended up picking mine up from a guy on Craigslist for $270

any way/place to get an 8125 in Europe?

Hi all,
pretty newbie here (first post!), and I want to buy an HTC Cingular 8125. I already read that the european version is the HTC Wizard, but I prefer the 8125 shapeform and keyboard. Is there a way to buy a new one in Europe?. All the customs clearance foms&procedure for one shipped from the states is even harder than paying them. Any advices? Did anyone had such a problem, how did you solve it?
TIA.

Try eBay. I live in Canada and there is no version of an HTC Wizard here, but I bought my 8125 from eBay unlocked. Has been working great for about 6 months now. Best phone ever! Generally, most sellers ship everywhere, and I am sure you will not have any trouble getting one shipped to Europe.

The shape of the Cingular 8125 is actually based off the Asian market Dopod 838. If you can find a shop out in Europe that sells second hand phones, you may be able to get one that is branded with the Dopod logos. AFAIK, Dopod (Asia) and Cingular (US) were the only ones who got the 838/8125 body style. Everyone else got the Wizard body.

Thanks zakhir_n and deathMiata for your replies, I wonder if the inner is the same in 8125/838 and in the Wizard, in terms of geometry... I mean, buying a wizard and the housing of a dopod or a 8125 and replace the bodies. Any experience?.
I was asking to buy one in Europe also for the warranty issues (buying an ebay unit from a private seller, no matter if it's unlocked or not, is warranty=0, right?). Also not to mention if something happens, I have to ship the unit to the States.
Can one buy it directly to cingular but without a contract? (the problem is not unlocking... the problem is billing, US bank account, etc...)
Thank you all!

Yeah warranty will always be an issue when buying things off eBay. Although I am pretty sure you can get warranty no problem, the issue is having to ship it and waiting for a long period of time without a phone if something happens.
Somebody I know just bought a locked 8125 from the states and then paid only $2 to unlock it. There is probably threads all over this forum showing how to do it for free. But the warranty issue is still there; even if you buy it from Cingular, if they are like any other phone company, they take their time fixing phones. Not to mention that they might not help because you aren't a customer. Anway, the wizard is a solid phone I wouldn't be too worried about anything.
And from what I can see about the housing form the 8125 and 838, the phones are exactly the same with different logos. I am pretty sure you can buy the housing and change it, but you would be getting the same looking phone with a different logo. This assumption is based on a quick glance only so don't take my word for it.
Good luck, buddy!

zakhir_n said:
Yeah warranty will always be an issue when And from what I can see about the housing form the 8125 and 838, the phones are exactly the same with different logos. I am pretty sure you can buy the housing and change it, but you would be getting the same looking phone with a different logo.
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Thanks, maybe I misexplained, I meant buying a Wizard or a Qtek (the ones available here) and also a 8125 housing (or Dopod 838 housing) via eBay, and swap the housings.... but everything points that I'll have to buy directly a 8125 from there (HTC TyTN/8525 has almost the same keyboard, but I don't need its extras over the 8125)
Thanks for your replies zakhir... I'm going to see if I can persuade an ebay seller with a good bottle of wine, in order to get lower declared value in customs declaration form
In the meanwhile, I'll keep reading the forums and learning... I soon will be posting my doubts

Hi again!
Any kind german forum-user can confirm if the VPA Compact II housing is the same as the cingular 8125 or Dopod 838 (and different than the Qtek 9100, that is the one whose keyboard I'm avoiding).
If the VPA Compact II has the same housing as the 8125 or 838 I would get it from germany... any advice on on-line shopping?
Thanks!

I'm in Europe for the holidays
I just replaced my 8125 with an 8525. Perhaps we can work something out?

PL3/384EI said:
Hi again!
Any kind german forum-user can confirm if the VPA Compact II housing is the same as the cingular 8125 or Dopod 838 (and different than the Qtek 9100, that is the one whose keyboard I'm avoiding).
If the VPA Compact II has the same housing as the 8125 or 838 I would get it from germany... any advice on on-line shopping?
Thanks!
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Actually, I had a feeling that I forgot about Vodafone offered the Cingular 8125/Dopod 838 as the VPA Compact II. If Vodafone does offer the phone still I would imagine you could get it with no problem and unlock with Machina God's lokwiz unlocker (which is free, by the way).

PL3/384EI said:
Thanks zakhir_n and deathMiata for your replies, I wonder if the inner is the same in 8125/838 and in the Wizard, in terms of geometry... I mean, buying a wizard and the housing of a dopod or a 8125 and replace the bodies. Any experience?.
I was asking to buy one in Europe also for the warranty issues (buying an ebay unit from a private seller, no matter if it's unlocked or not, is warranty=0, right?). Also not to mention if something happens, I have to ship the unit to the States.
Can one buy it directly to cingular but without a contract? (the problem is not unlocking... the problem is billing, US bank account, etc...)
Thank you all!
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On the last part of your post, I can comment. I purchased my 8525 from www.letstalk.com without contract. I use an AT&T SIM and I am out of contract so I wanted to keep my plan. It is possible to purchase the phone only in this way. Even though they are reputable, I would imagine the warranty only applies within the USA.

anyone in here want to sell their hermes?

hey all
i'm looking for a hermes and was wondering if anybody on here was considering selling theres
thanx

duke_stix said:
hey all
i'm looking for a hermes and was wondering if anybody on here was considering selling theres
thanx
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I'm thinking about selling Hermes, but still haven't found out what my next device will be

check Ebay!
Hey check ebay if your in the UK, lots of hermes in the likes of VPA 1605, SPV M3100, TyTn, MDA Vario 2, etc going for good prices... suggested price is 180-210 pounds including shipping. Be wary some sellers are asking for too much, not sure why. If not try www.mobileshop.com they are doing MDA vario 2 free on a 32.50 pound web and walk contract with t mobile for 18 months. I think that is good value. I am looking for a new phone/pda for the summer, but am waiting to watch the market, got my eyes on Ameo, Vario 2, and the N95 also like the E61 oh god i can go on about comparing them for ever..LOL.. just not sure yet whats best for me..

Who here will sell his/her TyTN and buy a Kaiser?

Who here will sell his/her TyTN and buy a Kaiser when it comes out?
i'm hoping that most of you do so i can buy a TyTN for cheap

I probably will.. ...

i will sell my "almost new" tytn for $200 and get a kaiser..for sure

I love the fact that the Kaiser has built-in GPS so I don't have to buy any extra hardware. Thats the only reason I have been putting off buying one so I probably will buy one also, but a few months after they've been out.

Shawner said:
I love the fact that the Kaiser has built-in GPS so I don't have to buy any extra hardware. Thats the only reason I have been putting off buying one so I probably will buy one also, but a few months after they've been out.
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ditto...
built in gps, 3mp cam, fast cpu
that is a must have
going to get one for me and one for the misses. probably sell my hermes on ebay to help pay back the credit card.

It is either the Kaiser or Athena.

Will a Kaiser ROM dump work well in the TyTN do you think?

mikey411 said:
Who here will sell his/her TyTN and buy a Kaiser when it comes out?
i'm hoping that most of you do so i can buy a TyTN for cheap
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I will sell my tytn and buy a kaiser...

No VGA though
So I will probably hold for a better device.

wywywywy said:
No VGA though
So I will probably hold for a better device.
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The HTC Polaris is supposed to have VGA but won't have QWERTY sliding keyboard tho..

most likely yes but a few things to consider.
is att going to charge more than 399
is my att premier unlim phone upgrade still working
is pof and olipro buying one and plan to hardspl and simunlock
I may want 150 for 8525...I an anal about taking care of my equip so for a mint cond unlocked supercid with the buyer choice of rom preinstalled I should get 150

i have bin trying to get rid of mines since march i will be upgrading to the Kaiser

Screw that, I want 300 for my hermes if I sell it.. never been dropped, mint condition... lol..
If people are getting 250 for their Wizards, I want 300 for my hermes.. lol

Madcap180 said:
Screw that, I want 300 for my hermes if I sell it.. never been dropped, mint condition... lol..
If people are getting 250 for their Wizards, I want 300 for my hermes.. lol
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Hell yeah if the wizards are going for 250!

I'll think about upgrading next year (at which point the Kaiser will no doubt be available on my contract with O2). That's how I got the Wizard and Hermes (both of which became available from O2 UK about 6 to 12 months after they were initially released.
Til then, am happy with my Hermes and can probably cope without built in GPS.

I will not selling TyTN to get kaiser, I will keep the TyTN for now.. It does everything I need for now.. getting Kaiser only if I stumble on a good price, maybe 2nd hand or something. 256Mb ROM, 128Mb RAM and 3mpx camera with AF is only what is attracting me to Kaiser, on the other hand I am missing IRDA and Comm Manager button that are missing!!
Since I already got GPS receiver , I think it will not be worth of upgrade since I payed my new TyTN in my country something around 800€ or something like that and Kaiser will not be any less I recon..
To get a picture, it is like 3 months of average sallery in Croatia, witch is insane.. lol

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Hell yeah if the wizards are going for 250!
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Thats what I see them going for on Ebay .. 200-250 for 8125 .. 300-400 for 8525

does anyone know all the specs for the Kaiser

Madcap180 said:
Thats what I see them going for on Ebay .. 200-250 for 8125 .. 300-400 for 8525
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Yeah seriously, all of you willing to sell your Hermes for $100, I will buy them all.

Centurion said:
Yeah seriously, all of you willing to sell your Hermes for $100, I will buy them all.
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lol who wouldn't?