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WM2003-based SER

Does anyone know when Special Edition ROM 2(or whatever WM2003-based will be called) is coming?
Waiting since I installed SERv1.2! :roll:

Tried a search?..
It´s rumored for release in december for the XDA´s.

Search told me nothing, but thanx!
December 2004? By that time we'll probably see WM2004! 8)

I think you missed something.....
I'm nearly 100% sure, that there will never be an XDA-Developers Special Edition ROM based on the WM2003. The SER 1.2 was before the ability of ROM kitchens.
The Version skenliv is talking about is the WM2003 SE (Second edition)
This is something completly differernt.
I think that there won't be any release of the WM2003 SE for the XDA I device. O2 didn't have released any WM2003 until know, so why should they release the SE?
T-Mobile i'm not sure. But the only interesting point for the XDA I Users of the SE is the landscape mode....
HTH
Stefan

Basically, I don't see any "useful" feature in WM2003SE - as far as I know, the main thing is the support of 640x480 mode, which can't be used with XDA nor XDA2 (maybe XDA3 if any).
To say truth, I wanted the SER2 because I never managed to do anything with ROM kitchens - I gave it up and installed SER v1.2 so if you can give a link to a nice tutorial it would be appreciated.

By the way, what is included in your ROM?
Don't you want to share?

bob190cm said:
By the way, what is included in your ROM?
Don't you want to share?
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You want to know, what applications are iincluded in my ROM? Don´t know it exactly. But why should I share it. Maybe I´m using the theft protection or anything else.....
Why don´t you cook your own ROM?
Stefan

WM 2003 Second Edition
Just a note, there is an internal build of WM 2003 Second Edition for the XDA.
I'm running it right now on my SX-56. I really like it, the landscape mode is helpful and the text size changing is nice too. Add Voice Command and it's a true geek's delight.
Unfortunately, it's a signed internal build right now. So it can't be distributed. Hopefully T-Mo or others will release soon.
Cheers,
Laotzu

2 Stefan:
It was jus a suggestion! Don't take it this close to heart!
The point is, that my PC ain't gonna become a UNIX in close time...
PS: You are absolutely right, distribution of theft software is illegal! Same as it's usage...

hey dude...so DERE IS NOWAY u can ditribute da thing??aan i wwud really like to have dat!!!ne1 out dere where i can get my hands on the wm2003se??ill pay a price too.....

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I meant Second Edition, sorry. Read it to fast.

i would like to get some info about older CE applications compatiblity with SE because from what i read many older applications may not work at all
i would like to know if they dont work period or if they dont work of you tilt your desktop and such
would never move to a new version of the os which required me to get all new software

The old CE apps should work on standard mode. But in landscape mode, it might not work.

are you 100% sure about this because
http://www.brighthand.com/article/Developers_Dealing_with_Windows_Mobile_SE?site=PPC
here they make it sound much more serious

To my mind this will not be this tough!
I use Nyditot Virtual Display - my system thinks I have 640x480 landscape (all the rumours concerning making it "impossible to see anything on the display" come from people, who can't work with fonts, cleartype and zoom! 8) ).
I actually use programmes for WinCE 2.0, WinCE 2.11, PPC2002 and now WM2003, even though Microsoft guys say the WinCE 2.0 can never be compatible with the WM2003! So I think, that the availability of VGA will not make many troubles (if they use basis of WM2003 in WM2003SE).
I won't believe anyone till I see it! :wink:

win mobile 6 on herald?

many roms of wm6 are around on known sites for specific models.is anything for our herald too?ive read that there is going to be an official update to wm6 of this model so there must be something around, even beta.

Mhhm, i couldn´t find anything by now....
Lets wait a little, i think HTC is going to release something for us, soon

No one cooking any roms for the Herald tho?

doesn't look like it, i looked into porting one of the wizard roms but i didnt get very far! its definately possible to flash your own roms though. Also its worth remembering that HTC have promised us wm6 roms before June. I would much rather have that than a pre-release wm6 rom as the ones that are avaliable for the wizard, hermes etc.

As far as i know, everyone is content with AKU 3.2

meisterlampe2000 said:
As far as i know, everyone is content with AKU 3.2
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well i have used crossbow on my wizard and the only difference i see are pretty icons and html mail. i dont really care about either, and more importantly my herald is very stable, cant remember the last time i had to soft reset never mind hard reset. so thats why i can wait until htc do their thang!

I hear one handed uses on WM6 is way better and that windows update feature looks very promissing.

O2 may be releasing an HTC Herald as O2 XDA Terra, with WM6 on it.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=749

HTC Herald (aka Tmo Wing)
I bought a T-Mobile Wing 2 days ago (obviously it has WM6 on it) Where-as it is stable - I am rather disappointed that they removed the native VoIP support - thus I am waiting for someone to cook a ROM and put it back in so I can do the Hybrid Cell/VoIP thing that I was Previously doing on my Wizard (MDA) - I still have my Wizard which I use strictly for VoIP at home.

WarezAppz said:
I bought a T-Mobile Wing 2 days ago (obviously it has WM6 on it) Where-as it is stable - I am rather disappointed that they removed the native VoIP support - thus I am waiting for someone to cook a ROM and put it back in so I can do the Hybrid Cell/VoIP thing that I was Previously doing on my Wizard (MDA) - I still have my Wizard which I use strictly for VoIP at home.
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No problem - try this:
For me it is working.
Just install and install the xml settings via cab you have created or use config tool.
lol.

papamopps said:
No problem - try this:
For me it is working.
Just install and install the xml settings via cab you have created or use config tool.
lol.
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Sorry I haven't responded sooner, was bored at work today and just noticed your response.
This worked. Thanks so much for your help!

WarezAppz said:
Sorry I haven't responded sooner, was bored at work today and just noticed your response.
This worked. Thanks so much for your help!
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Great to hear. Thanks

[Q] HP iPAQ Data Messenger

Hi, Sorry if ive missed something, but i have looked on here and google, my friend has a HP iPAQ Data Messenger, and i was wondering if they are any custom roms for it? or if theirs another name it goes by since i cant see it anywhere on here?
Thank you in Advance.

Nope no roms, i just sold my Data Mess because of that.
It is a way too new device so there are no devs using it. Especially since it is way too overpriced.
But unless you/he is in desperate need of 6.5 i sugest you install Manilla and some apps to make the best of it. Hopefulle HP will release 6.5 eventually but no guarantees.

new rom update from hp here:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsuppor...swLang=13&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=hh-68833-2

I loaded new rom from hp support.
pda is better...but it needs more....

would be really great if someone were to cook a 6.5 for this phone. problem is finding someone other than us who bought one...ha!

bump...... Somebody as to be working on this.

agree
Totaly agree with you, someone has to be cooking something, cause the Data Messenger is quite a good phone.

I actually just bought a brand new unlocked iPAQ Data Messenger yesterday for 200 euro.
Right now I'm busy changing the Win 6.1 UI so it's more finger friendly. But WinMo 6.5 itself would be killer.

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Well, I have done the same, I have installed HTC Home plugin + LG Today Plugin (just search the forum and you will find it)
That's the best and most stable result I have got to get my Data Messenger finger friendly.
But I agree with you, WM6.5 would be a killer.
But when I see that is me and a few others that are using this phone I really thinking about to sell this phone.

Did anyone tried installing SPB?

dj_teb said:
Totaly agree with you, someone has to be cooking something, cause the Data Messenger is quite a good phone.
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I'd cook it my damn self if I just knew how. I've used to had P2K Motorola's that I used to mod and flash the hell out. I just have no idea how to cook a WinMobile ROM else I'd use my own Data Messenger as a test machine.

iPAQ Data Messenger ROM is encrypted, so there is no way to make a custom ROM yet.
Maybe someone will ever make a tool to decrypt / encrypt the ROM.

Spiaatie said:
iPAQ Data Messenger ROM is encrypted, so there is no way to make a custom ROM yet.
Maybe someone will ever make a tool to decrypt / encrypt the ROM.
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You're reffering to the OS-1.00.05.00-751-WWE.nbf ROM?

kekkle said:
You're reffering to the OS-1.00.05.00-751-WWE.nbf ROM?
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Yes, OS-1.00.05.00-751-WWE.nbf

Ok and so.. How come the Voice Messenger has been decrypted and the Data Messenger has been not? Are they THAT different?

kekkle said:
Ok and so.. How come the Voice Messenger has been decrypted and the Data Messenger has been not? Are they THAT different?
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Yes, ROMs are different.
It's easy get XIP and IMGFS parts from Voice Messenger ROM, but it's impossible with Data Messenger.
Short ROM HEX example.
Voice Messenger
.....................1.......................#...|...|...S.k.i.p.S.e.c.t.o.r.1...A.l.i.g.n.C.y.l.i.n.d.e.r...P.r.i.m.a.r.y.P.a.r.t...P.a.r.t.....NO NAME.RSDS....Z][email protected]@...........P...0..( .......P.......P...P........P.....,0.
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Data Messenger
EEE9059001BC864624..:20AAC0000FBC00BD81B00FB400B5402007F0E2E9059001BC86460FBC00BD81B00FB400B5D4..:20AAE000412007F0D8E9059001BC86460FBC00BD81B00FB400B5422007F0CCE9059001BC8E..:20AB000086460FBC00BD81B00FB400B5432007F0C2E9059001BC86460FBC00BD81B00FB499..:20AB
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Data Messenger ROM is somehow encrypted

another ROM
but what happened if i put an rom from another phone with the same specs.
does that work?

doep007 said:
but what happened if i put an rom from another phone with the same specs.
does that work?
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No, that does does not work. And NEVER try to do something like that.
ROMs are device specific.

Why not available in hp ipaq data messenger for windows mobile 6.5 rom?

Do you know if there is any problem upgrading a data massenger with an official hp rom in a language different from the original one?
Eg I buy a data messenger in english and then I upgrade the device with an official hp rom in italian.
Thanks
Americo

is it possible to install windows mobile 5?

Hi,
sorry if this has been asked before, i searched but found nothing specific so here goes.
i have been asked by my bro-in-law to downgrade his t-mobile mda compact v to wm5 so he can use the apps he needs to use for his job as a sky satellite engineer.
apart from ruining a perfectly good phone, i'm afraid that it will run like poo and crash often.
so, is there a way to install a wm5 rom to this handset and where do i find a compatible rom?
any help is greatly appreciated
thanks
ave'

i dont think thats possible, but the apps he use should work in wm6 too.
i use apps from wm2003 and wm5 in wm6 so that wouldn't be a problem i think

cheers mate,
i will try that route and see how it goes.

ever tried looking for an old phone that still running wm5 at ebay?

[Q] can wm 6.5 run on dell venue pro?

hi guys,
sorry if this is a too stupid question to ask.
but does anyone know if wm 6.5 can run on dell venue pro?
i am a wm user and love to have this phone running wm.
have the hd2 which is great but i miss the keyboard. any other suggestions
also welcome.
thanks

Windows phone 7

kanishkapd said:
hi guys,
sorry if this is a too stupid question to ask.
but does anyone know if wm 6.5 can run on dell venue pro?
i am a wm user and love to have this phone running wm.
have the hd2 which is great but i miss the keyboard. any other suggestions
also welcome.
thanks
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its plausible. but will need great amount of Dev Support.
You need to write drivers which should be compatible with Dell Hardware.
That will be the biggest challenge...after its done the hardware can handle the OS flawlessly...
I know Cotulla would be a good person to ask this.

It's been a while since last post on this thread, but I will ask again. Is there a possibility of this happening. I am a long time windows mobile user, last phone was HTC Touch Pro/Titl 2 (I have both). 6.5 was great, I wanted more speed. Got DVP, great hardware, software absolutely sucks. Need to go back to WM 6.5. Wi-Fi Sharing, Email refreshing every 15 minutes, not using acceleration and light sensors to its fullest extent, not being able to save stuff on file system, not running WM 6.5 apps, list goes on and on.
Any ideas anyone ?

idonotgamble said:
It's been a while since last post on this thread, but I will ask again. Is there a possibility of this happening. I am a long time windows mobile user, last phone was HTC Touch Pro/Titl 2 (I have both). 6.5 was great, I wanted more speed. Got DVP, great hardware, software absolutely sucks. Need to go back to WM 6.5. Wi-Fi Sharing, Email refreshing every 15 minutes, not using acceleration and light sensors to its fullest extent, not being able to save stuff on file system, not running WM 6.5 apps, list goes on and on.
Any ideas anyone ?
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hi
i have done some inquiries to this matter some time back. and it seems it is possible but difficult. nobody is interested in wm anymore, except for few guys like you and me. most of the capable devs who could make this possible are not interested in wm anymore and too busy with android and wp7. as the previous reply suggests why dont you pm cotulla? he might be able to give better advice. or the next best thing you could do is trade your DVP to a hd2, which is the best phone around running wm. but minus the keyboard. and have you tried wp7 with the mango update? doesnt it support most of previously missing functions?

I can sell DVP and probably even make money on it as I currently reside outside of the US. WP7 has taken away a lot of features. Mango was a little improvement from 7.0, but still has a long way to go. The IMAP email refresh 15 minutes is horrible, I use phone as internet connection backup, WM6.5 apps don't work, I have some of my own apps I wrote, those don't work of course. WP7 looks great and works great for a regular Joe Shmoe, but for me as a business user it doesnt cut it. It's really not worth it for me to sink in so much time into this. PM'ing the guy who knows about this won't do any good, not like he is going to sink in weeks of his time into it, you know. I will go back to my Tilt2/TP2, Titlt2 for use in Latin America, TP2 on T-Mobile while in US, Titlt2 also gets use on At&T networks in US. Probably looks like for me to get some more speed need to invest in a pair of HD2's AT&T and T-Mobile radio frequencies. They will do 2 things I'm missing now: faster browsing + ability to zoom-in using Multi-Touch. If you find out of any new phones that would make me happy (HTC HD2 + keyboard LOL) pls let me know. DVP running WM6.5 would be a damn good phone though . Thanks for input !!

ok...gud luck with your work..will let u know if i come across any news..