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Found this incredible realtime PUSH email solution for WM2003 and WM2005 devices. Works like vgsmail (IMAP IDLE Client being developed) but MUCH more stable, reliable, and faster (it's been around a while and they have big company partners)! It consists of a small syncing program that supports true push and links with the built in Messaging app, you just need to keep it minimized but running on your Pocket PC in the background (doesn't seem to slow down the device). Upon installation, the software also creates an account in the Messaging application where your mail is kept.
You just download the sync application, they give you 500mb of server space and a cool web mail interface (looks like Outlook) that also stores and syncs calender, contacts, and tasks. You can just use it for mail and continue using ActiveSync with Outlook for everything else, that's what I do. They also gives you a free utility to sync the email on your account with Outlook on your desktop so you stay up to date!
It's called office2go and it's from space2go:
https://shop.space2go.com/faces/shop/index.jsp
I tried it on our WM5 WiFi device and it was rock solid! I signed up for a free 30 trial of office2go and downloaded the PUSH Email client. I just forward my ISP's POP3 mail to this account and within a few seconds, it shows up on my PPC in the Messaging app. It runs reliably, no crashes or lock ups yet. Outgoing mail is sent immediately, no need to hit SEND/RECEIVE anymore! Also deletes from server immediately and keeps sent mail in sync. The sync application has great downloading and scheduling options as well.
They deliver TRUE PUSH mail today, and for what you get, the easy setup, and reliability, I think it could be worth it.
Give it a try!
What is your daily GPRS traffic?
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Many thanks for the info. How does it handle fully body of the emails and what about attachements? Thanks
handles full body, header, or user defined size. Handles attachments - no problem. Doesn't choke on large emails. Very reliable, I would give it a try. Free for 30 days. Works great!
More info on it here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=105531
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Many thanks for the info. How does it handle fully body of the emails and what about attachements? Thanks
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Does look very good - but how much traffic is it using
I created an account but when I want to download the sync app it's asking me to pay. I thought it was 30 days free trial. When I registered for an account I chose the one with the included license.
I'm confused. Do I have to pay for the sync app or not?
Don't forget that the same service is offered by 4smartphone, hosted exchange so genuine WM5 push email plus it apparently has a WM2003 push component too (haven't tried that one out though). Decent free trial and some advanced options in there too if you opt for one of the premium packages
Ok so I thought I would give it a whirl. Signed up for the trial. The web service is nice. However, I downloaded the Sync software onto my computer and installed it. Tried to sync my contacts and it kept giving me login errors. I confirmed that I was entering in the correct username and passoword but still no go.
Also, why does it not sync mail? Does the program they offer not work as a mail redirector?
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AlexL said:
I downloaded the Sync software onto my computer and installed it
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Where did you download the Sync app from? When I tried it asked me to pay €39. Isn't the app part of the free trial?
After you are logged in to your account, click on options and then downloads. The program I tried is the Space2go SyncWare. But like I said, it was never able to connect to their server and it doesn't give the option to sync mail.
Guys, trust me it works and it works well. Mail is pushed and everything else syncs wirelessly on a schedule. See this link on treocentral:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=105531
The above link has further set up instructions, manuals for the client and a download link for the Client2go. SyncWare links Outlook to their servers and SyncML is to sync wirelessly to other servers besides office2go. I don't have to pay for anything for 30 days.
4smartphone.net is an exchange hosting service and will only support push or DirectPush as MS calls it when the MSFP ROM update is released for WM5. Until then, this is the only game in town and it works well. Their mail servers also support IMAP and POP3 client access for your desktop.
Their web site is not great but their software works VERY well.
Let us know your feedback. good luck!
Could you please post the link to the desktop software I need to download or post the file here.
AlexL said:
Could you please post the link to the desktop software I need to download or post the file here.
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Manual for push/sync client:
https://shop.space2go.com/public_ht...al_PocketPC.pdf
Push/Sync client for PPC:
http://www.space2go.de/pushclients/pocketpc.cab
Application to sync Outlook with contacts, calender, tasks with your office2go account (mail is downloaded via IMAP from a desktop client)
http://www.space2go.de/data/space2goSyncWare.exe
IMAP and POP email access server info (in German)
http://www.space2go.de/data/office2go_externe_Email_Clients.pdf
Here you go! Please let me know how it works for you guys?
by the way, critical step, once the client is installed, you have to perform one manual sync for it to set up the account and link with the built in Messaging app.
check out the instructions listed on the treocentral link above!
Ok, so I did have the right files. I tried teh desktop software, and I get login errors when It tries to sync. I tried the pocket pc software and I got an access denied error.
Followed what they said at treocentral...Not sure if this is going to work.
Please read the treocentral link above:
user: [email protected] (you need the whole thing)
That's the problem.
I tried that and still doesn't work. Also after reading the postings at treo central, it seems that it doesn't redirect your e-mail. You need to attach either an IMAP or POP3 e-mail to the office2go account.
I need a way to redirect my corporate exchange e-mail so this isn't a solution for me.
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I tried that and still doesn't work. Also after reading the postings at treo central, it seems that it doesn't redirect your e-mail. You need to attach either an IMAP or POP3 e-mail to the office2go account.
I need a way to redirect my corporate exchange e-mail so this isn't a solution for me.
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its not a redirector, its a server that pushes mail. You need Intellisync or something like that.
anyone have success besides me?
OK, I have it working on my K-Jam. I have a question though. I have four different pop3 acounts I want to push to my k-jam. Do I have to set all of them to forward to my one single space2go account or can I keep them seperate? I don't really want all the e-mails mixed up.
Also, when replaying to an e-mail I want to 'from' to be my original account not the space2go account. I can't see where I can set this.
I own a domain and I'd like to set up an account on it ([email protected]) which will be pushed to my 8125. I checked with mail2web and they said I'd need to use their business plan since I'm using my own domain. Are there any other solutions someone could give me? I like the mail2web contact syncing feature since I don't have my home Outlook contact list cleaned up well, but I'm more interested in the PUSH feature.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Forwarding
I just forwarded my email address to mail2web email. Not a good solution but works
pop3
or you can set it up as pop3
pop3?
What do you mean by "set it up as a pop3"? Set what up as a pop3? And how does that get the mail pushed to my phone?
Pop3 mail won't push... its not direct push. You can have your phone connect and download email through a pop at certian time intervals... but its not instant like direct push... pop won't sync either
But it is a way you can get your mail on your PDA, so its better than nothing...
That was my understanding as well, General. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something there. So it still sounds like the best/only way for me to get the email pushed out to my phone is to use the mail2web service.
If anyone has any other solutions, please let me know. Thanks again for the help.
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The other option is to pay for it... There are companies out there that host exchange server. As long as they have Win2003 (with some SP installed) - Push is instantly available.
I use Push email service provided by 4Smartphone (www.4smartphone.com). You can also go to www.port88.org. A.Kelly has a couple of posts on this site where he's providing free Exchange mail service...all you have to do is email him.
I'm looking at possibly getting the MDA Vario II in a few months on a web'n'walk tariff, but before I jump in I've decided to do some real indepth research;
- Does the handset support "push" e-mail?
- I have a GMail account which I use as my primary account; can I use this as a "push" mail account at all?
- Is it/will it be compatible with Windows Vista and Office 2007?
- Does it have Adobe Acrobat reader? Or is it compatible with the handset?
- Is it compatible with a TomTom 910 unit?
I've since attained that it does support push e-mail, but I don't know what to do with my GMail account, any suggestions are welcomed.
The TomTom unit is dubious, but I'm game for a laugh.
GMail doesnt support push. You can fwd gmail to a free exchange account. Please search for details.
PDF viewer is pre-installed. "adobe Acrobat" is not, but based on the former the latter isn't necessary.
It is compatible w/vista, not sure about Office 2007.
@Trapper
I forward GMail to a free mail2web.com Live Push Email account, works great. But keep in mind that Push email generates network traffic, so get a good data plan, or use polling settings very carefully (disable when roaming).
Friend of mine is using his Tytn with TT 910 over Bluetooth, works.
Outlook 2007 with Tytn works fine, using it since a few months, never had a problem. Just keep in mind that Outlook Mobile on your Tytn cannot read the new .docx Word format, so save in old .doc format. Office can also save directly to PDF, which you can port to your Tytn.
Think about the Tytn´s keyboard and size involved, if you dont need it, get the Trinity instead.
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@Trapper
I forward GMail to a free mail2web.com Live Push Email account, works great. But keep in mind that Push email generates network traffic, so get a good data plan, or use polling settings very carefully (disable when roaming).
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How much does it cost? I've had a quick look and I can't work it out. Also, does this mean that I won't be able to access my account at www.google.com/mail and it will be filtered?
The free mail2web live account is...Free! You will still be able to access your email from gmail.com.
Ninja1
You can set gmail up as a pop account. It doesn't "Push" but you can have the phone automatically check the account periodically.
It is compatible with Vista. Vista even has a nice little new program that replaces ActiveSync that works pretty well. It's still in beta, and thus has a few quirks, but works pretty well.
Yes it supports push email. I have mine coming through an exchange server.
It has a PDF reader built-in, but I prefer the mobile version of Foxit pdf reader.
No idea about the TomTom though.
Perhaps some more information that can help you
As others stated, it does support push email. mail2web is a good free exchange service. Another one is 4smartphone (not free).
To get push email to work with gmail (or any other email).
1. Sign up with mail2web or any other exchange host. i-mate provides this for free for their users after you sign up at their site.
2. Set up the sync settings on the device. Things to watch out here:
* You cannot set up an external exchange service on the device when it is plugged into the PC with ActiveSync running (the menu is disabled on the device). You must disconnect it from the USB and then add a new server resource.
3. Forward your email to your mail2web (or other exchange) account. In gmail there are two ways to do this. Either you forward all mail to mail2web, or you setup a filter so that only certain mail is forwarded. I prefer the filter method because I do not want to have mailing list emails forwarded to my device. To setup my filter, I just put my gmail address in the To: box, and then had the action set to forward it to my mail2web. This way, only messages directed to me will be forwarded, not those going to the mailing list address.
Mail appears in both places: in your gmail inbox and on the phone. If you delete from the phone, it only removes it from your exchange account and not from your gmail inbox.
4. For all other accounts, you can set them up separately in the device and have it poll the servers every 5 or 10 minutes. I use this for our corporate IMAP server.
5. Your push email shows up in your Outlook E-mail folder in messaging.
I have used it with Outlook 2007 without incident. There is a new ActiveSync beta out which helps.
I'm not sure about TomTom -- but any bluetooth receiver will work. I have used Navigon5 and I can confirm it works.
Hope this helps
Another question, which is of a big concern to me is; do T-Mobile UK release ROM updates for the handset? And if so where from?
When I worked for o2, we released them through www.my-xda.com and that was a dream to install and action.
One final question, is it possible that future Hermes ROMs may use Crossbow?
Thanks for the info fyrestrtr. It sounds like if you use a service like mail2web, you can view your mail on your phone using push and still use your Gmail account but that any messages you view over your phone won't get marked as read in your Gmail account until you view them there as well. Is this correct?
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Another question, which is of a big concern to me is; do T-Mobile UK release ROM updates for the handset? And if so where from?
When I worked for o2, we released them through www.my-xda.com and that was a dream to install and action.
One final question, is it possible that future Hermes ROMs may use Crossbow?
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Very unlikely to ever see an official upgrade from HTC, HTC has their mind set on 2007 models, not the old Hermes. Even ROM updates will address just the most pressing issues, dont expect miracles these days
Yes Mail2Web works as you assume. Just carefull with Push polling traffic, can amount to up to 15 megs per month just for polling. If you ride on a low volume data plan, you might get burned....
I may be a little behind but found Mobipush.com and liked it but wanted to see what everyone else was using. you set up 5 email addresses and it pushes to your outlook folder (it wont save sent emails on the ppc though, wierd). How does everyone else use email? push email? I have an aol, yahoo and a work email address (wish i used my gmail more).
for mobipush, can you reply to from the original email addresses?
most people use a free exchange account with mail2web.
There's many other "free" push solutions, but most of them require additional software (which no one likes doing). Haven't heard of mobipush.
sorry to sound dumb...free exchange account? that means its their email address or i can still use mine? The MobiPush account i use my email account
push account
It requires software, but emoze is free and nice.
i tried them all, and the best one i think is mail2web. i foward all my mail to my mail2web account. I pay 5 dollars a month to have all the sent mail with my main email address. it links to the server so all my contacts and calendar and email are synced. Which is great so when I flash my phone (which I do often) i get all my emails and contacts through syncing back to my mail2web account.
if anyone has a better setup please let us know
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i tried them all, and the best one i think is mail2web. i foward all my mail to my mail2web account. I pay 5 dollars a month to have all the sent mail with my main email address. it links to the server so all my contacts and calendar and email are synced. Which is great so when I flash my phone (which I do often) i get all my emails and contacts through syncing back to my mail2web account.
if anyone has a better setup please let us know
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How about a solution that keeps $5 a month, back into your pocket!
Guys nothings better than this:
http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
You'll agree after you set it up....Plus it doesn't use ActiveSync so your saving your battery too, it pushes in the same manner Windows Live mobile does.
Does seven use SMS method of push?
--how well does it work with AOL accounts?
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Does seven use SMS method of push?
--how well does it work with AOL accounts?
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Seven does have one that does but what I posted is Email Push only and it'll notify similar to Windows Live Mobile Hotmail.
As for AOL, try it, its listed in the app.... Nothing is better than hands on right?
I use it for my GMail & Yahoo! accounts...
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Yes you can
So my sister has the 6700 and set up the "outlook" email to have push email with gmail. I went to set it up and it asks for the email address....then the username/password and the Domain (any ideas on what that means?), then next and it searches, and asks for the server address (any ideas here?). She said she set her's up with the pop3 address outgoing/ingoing...it never asks for that...
Ive used mail2web and I hate not being able to repsond with my gmail account unless i pay $5 a month. WHat i do now, is setup gmail to forward all my email to [email protected]. This setp is perfect for me; it basically becomes a notifier for you to check your gmail (so of course i have setup to check email manually). Works great and saves batteries as you can read alot of emails right off the text message
Do mobipush support HMTL Email ? Seven does but can't download attachments for some reason.
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Do mobipush support HMTL Email ? Seven does but can't download attachments for some reason.
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I am almost sure that it does. I just dont use it b/c yahoo wont let me without paying i think
Try this one. You have to download their software but it doeesn't put much of hit on your phone. http://www.funambol.com/
I installed my own exchange server cuz mail2web wasn't workin' for me as I have my own custom domain... They make you pay if you want to change your reply-to address.
Windows Server 2008 + Exchange 2007 is VERY slick if u can run into the licenses... I do feel a lil geeky installing enterprise software for 1 mailbox tho? lol. The web mail is awesome too lol. and not to mention using regular outlook... having everything linked together is sweeeeeet... open outlook on laptop ... add a contact or make a change and seconds later look at my pda and it's already sync'd... slick!
I really could NOT be happier having exchange sync on my device... it makes ALL the difference in email and contact sync... I lost my contacts so many times from hard resets and syncs between computers messing up... exchange is DEF the way to go for the all-around best experience.
Dont forget Windows Live push Email
Windows Live mobile services does free push email on Hotmail, MSN, Live, and OfficeLive email for free... even on free accounts.
Or forward you existing mail to a free Hotmail, MSN, Live, and OfficeLive email account.
I made a quick video on how to do it here.. no hacking necessary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5EmS0A4Am4
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I installed my own exchange server cuz mail2web wasn't workin' for me as I have my own custom domain... They make you pay if you want to change your reply-to address.
Windows Server 2008 + Exchange 2007 is VERY slick if u can run into the licenses... I do feel a lil geeky installing enterprise software for 1 mailbox tho? lol. The web mail is awesome too lol. and not to mention using regular outlook... having everything linked together is sweeeeeet... open outlook on laptop ... add a contact or make a change and seconds later look at my pda and it's already sync'd... slick!
I really could NOT be happier having exchange sync on my device... it makes ALL the difference in email and contact sync... I lost my contacts so many times from hard resets and syncs between computers messing up... exchange is DEF the way to go for the all-around best experience.
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How do you set up your own exchange server? now that would be awesome.
The service i mentioned above syncs calander, mail, tasks, contacts. I have it sync on my work desktop, my phone, my laptop, and my home compter. Best of all its FREE http://www.funambol.com/
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How do you set up your own exchange server? now that would be awesome.
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No simple task... you need Windows Server (2003 or 2008) with lots of roles installed before you can install Exchange. And I wanted to go with the new Exchange 2007 which requires a x64 operating system as well.
Exchange isn't really meant for personal use.. it's a business/enterprise server installation... I just didn't wanna pay the $5-10/month for exchange hosting from someone else so I setup my own... Microsoft really needs to release some kind of a "personal" exchange server or something because it really stinks all these windows mobile peeps can't have exchange functionality without paying for a service
My push mail from Hotmail seems to be moving very slow lately and it is very anoying. Things like this make me miss my blackberry. I deal with alot of email a day and I need my emails to come to me quickly. I noticed when I installed the hotmail account the windows direct push icon can't be selected like when I had my @live.com email address. I dropped live because it decided to lock me out and not let me back in. Does anyone have any sugestions? I also don't want to deal with getting emails through another server.
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I noticed that using Windows Live as its good times and bad times. Sometimes emails seem to come instantly and sometimes they seem delayed.
I know you said you prefer not to use a different server, but I must say, if you're willing to pay, then an Exchange server is the best.
If don't mind an @mail2web.com email address, you can set that up for free, but it won't be HTML.
If you have your own domain you can pay for a business account for about $20/month (including taxes). This allows you to use your own domain name, plus it uses Exchange 2007 so it offers HTML email. You can also sync your contacts, tasks, and calendar.
Another option is to use the Sprint Email app. I used that for a while and it seemed pretty fast too.
Now that I have that Exchange server, I can't see myself going back to anything else.
I just wanted to add that I think an Exchange Server will give you the closest thing to a Blackberry experience on Windows Mobile. Some people even say its better than Blackberry.
I am in no way affliated with them, but if you have your own domain to use for hosting, I love Sherweb; they're only about $8/month for hosted Exchange 2007. However, you're not going to be able to use your hotmail/live.com email address on a hosted Exchange server, since Hotmail won't auto-forward and you can't setup a reply-to address on the Exchanger server end (workarounds are possible, but messy).
I'd rather try to setup my sprint mail. if I add another twenty bucks on my bill I will be back up to black berry prices. how would I setup my sprint mail for push? when I setup the mail it asks me for how often to check for messages. the hotmail lets me select as items come. sprint does not seem to have an automatic email retrieve option unless I am doing something wrong?
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I'd rather try to setup my sprint mail. if I add another twenty bucks on my bill I will be back up to black berry prices. how would I setup my sprint mail for push? when I setup the mail it asks me for how often to check for messages. the hotmail lets me select as items come. sprint does not seem to have an automatic email retrieve option unless I am doing something wrong?
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You wouldn't actually be setting up your Sprint email account, but the Sprint Email program that should be in your Start > Programs menu. It should walk you through all of the steps to push your hotmail/live account.
Now for the stupid question. I reinstalled my hotmail email using the sprint email application and I have two hotmail email icons now. Is there anyway to remove the old one with out hard reseting and doing it all over again? Also would you know how to setup another email account with the sprint email option or is it just a one time thing?
THANKS!
I don't even rely on Windows Live Push email anymore.
I use mail2web , check out mail2web.com
They offer free exchange server push so you can just forward your mail to that address.
Check them out its the best.
mfpreach said:
I don't even rely on Windows Live Push email anymore.
I use mail2web , check out mail2web.com
They offer free exchange server push so you can just forward your mail to that address.
Check them out its the best.
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I hear you, I just find it frustrating to have to do all of this in order to have push mail. Something that is available but it seems to be a broken system.....thanks Microsoft
Try this...I found it at our friends ppcgeeks. http://community.seven.com/forum/main.php
Quite a few ppl from ova there use it. I've been using it about a week now and it works pretty good. Even has a home tab to let you know its connected and pushing. The longest an email has taken was 10 min and the shortest about 1 min. Its better than outlook logging on and syncing process and it is full HTML support. It also can have upto i think 5 dif emails
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Another option for email is www.mobipush.com