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We seem to be throwing this term around very loosely in this forum. How about we distinguish what an actual "brick"ed device is vs one that is simply hosed and needs a software/firmware re-install or whatever. So for the sake of this discussion, a brick is......
A device that no longer powers up and cannot be saved/reset by simple firmware flash or software installation.
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Amen to that brother! Also people starting new threads because they "bricked" their phone flashing or modding should probably just post in the thread that caused their "brick" instead of just starting a new thread. Not that I care, but probably will benefit the individual more and get the attention of the OP of that mod. Just my two cents
I think we should compile "Bricked? Here's how to fix it" thread and sticky it if its detailed enough. That way, if someone dares post "halp i brixed mai phone halp" you could just link them to that topic once and be done with it and they be happy due to noob-friendly instructions.
+1 I think I bricked my wife.
Not sent from my Vibrant using XDA App 'cause I returned it.
Now I'm fully aware of my n00b status, and will not deny it at all, however last night when I was in the midst of my ROM installation fiasco (worked out well in the end!) I thought of something that might be pretty useful when doing all this flashing back to stock in order to load a custom rom...(and then messing up the custom rom, then loading backup, then messing that up, then almost bricking, then freaking out over possible brick, then figuring out how to really use ODIN3, then starting stock, lol....the past 12 hours has been a serious learning experience, but fun now that it's done)
The process I followed to install the Cognition ROM involved taking my bone stock captivate and rooting it, then installing ROM Manager, then backup, etc....Here's my suggestion, take it for what it's worth, and if I'm overstepping my boundaries, try to be nice about letting me know
I've noticed that there are many root "packages" where it installs root, and lagfixes, and a ton of other stuff, but (and maybe I haven't looked hard enough, but I've looked...) I noticed there isn't just a root "package" that ONLY roots the phone and installs ROM Manager only...this is my suggestion- make one! Maybe include Titanium backup, but since I was a bone stock Captivate, I didn't really have too much invested in apps, since I knew I was going to be going back and forth, and I intend on keeping it that way for a while, since I am still learning. But yeah- Root, ROM Manager, and Titanium Backup package would pretty much be the sh*t!
Now, I know I haven't contributed a damn thing to this forum, but this seems like it would be a handy tool to have, and while it's benefits are marginal (you save the whole 3 or 4 minutes to go to the market and install these apps) it makes life a little easier in a world where life isn't always easy (as I found out last night/this morning
If something like this exists already, forgive me for my ignorance and please point me in the right direction. I'm not trying to step on any toes or offend anyone, I just think this would be handy to have, and judging from the knowledge floating around this forum, it *seems* like it would be something fairly elementary for some of you extremely knowledgeable folks to do..
My apologies for such a long-winded post, but I tend to be that way, and again...thanks to all on this forum for a treasure trove of information to read through and slowly acquaint myself with the Android OS...It's hella better than the 3gs Iphone I previously had.......
Welcome aboard. I will say this first, post in the proper area of the forum, this belongs in the general discussion area, for future reference, this is the developement forum.
There are one click root methods, there are other packages that remove AT&T bloat and toss in a few other goodies. A word of caution, read, read, read, learn as much as you can from all of our mistakes before you go making the same ones. You should read an entire thread before jumping ahead and flashing, that way you avoid fiascos and possible brick your phone. Read all of the stickies at the top of the page, then browse all of the topics discussed, usually if you read an entire thread your questions will be answered in it. If you run into trouble and need help you will find it here. Happy hunting!
Root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
ROM Manager and Titanium: Get them from the market.
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Welcome aboard. I will say this first, post in the proper area of the forum, this belongs in the general discussion area, for future reference, this is the developement forum.
There are one click root methods, there are other packages that remove AT&T bloat and toss in a few other goodies. A word of caution, read, read, read, learn as much as you can from all of our mistakes before you go making the same ones. You should read an entire thread before jumping ahead and flashing, that way you avoid fiascos and possible brick your phone. Read all of the stickies at the top of the page, then browse all of the topics discussed, usually if you read an entire thread your questions will be answered in it. If you run into trouble and need help you will find it here. Happy hunting!
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+1 to this and yes there is indeed a one-click root already (as bare as you can get). installing ROM manager and titanium can be your job after that (how hard is that? takes like 5 seconds). and yes, read! reading is your friend! read read read read and then when you feel like you've learned everything you can, read more because you still haven't figured it all out. and again, because this doesn't provide anything NEW or unique to Android running on the Samsung Captivate, please keep it to General.
Thanks and enjoy your phone
Rhiannon224 said:
Welcome aboard. I will say this first, post in the proper area of the forum, this belongs in the general discussion area, for future reference, this is the developement forum.
There are one click root methods, there are other packages that remove AT&T bloat and toss in a few other goodies. A word of caution, read, read, read, learn as much as you can from all of our mistakes before you go making the same ones. You should read an entire thread before jumping ahead and flashing, that way you avoid fiascos and possible brick your phone. Read all of the stickies at the top of the page, then browse all of the topics discussed, usually if you read an entire thread your questions will be answered in it. If you run into trouble and need help you will find it here. Happy hunting!
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Cool. I will be sure to post correctly next time. Maybe a mod can move this thread.
As far as reading, that's all I've been doing for the past 2 months (hence, my low post count...didn't want to post when an answer is around the corner) Coming from the Iphone, this is a whole new monster, and all the reading I've done has benefited me infinitely
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Cool. I will be sure to post correctly next time. Maybe a mod can move this thread.
As far as reading, that's all I've been doing for the past 2 months (hence, my low post count...didn't want to post when an answer is around the corner) Coming from the Iphone, this is a whole new monster, and all the reading I've done has benefited me infinitely
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Enjoy your phone, I love mine, I'm a noob too and I spend hours everyday studying these forums. Everyone on here is very helpfull, I use Designgears stuff and love it. His new ROM is amazing it will make your phone fly. My phone has never worked like this, my battery life has improved drastically since flashing this ROM last night. Here's a link to the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
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Enjoy your phone, I love mine, I'm a noob too and I spend hours everyday studying these forums. Everyone on here is very helpfull, I use Designgears stuff and love it. His new ROM is amazing it will make your phone fly. My phone has never worked like this, my battery life has improved drastically since flashing this ROM last night. Here's a link to the thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
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Yes, but she needs to show it off in her signature... =)
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Yes, but she needs to show it off in her signature... =)
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I was enjoying it so much I forgot to update my signature. I've been hanging out here trying to help answer some questions, thanks for catching that.
Before anyone points out that I didn't post this is the main CM thread, I'd rather not keep up with sorting through the dozens of new posts to find out which ones are in response to my question if I don't immediately visit the forums after receiving a notification E-Mail, that is if anyone even notices mine among the already thousands of posts within the same thread. So, with that being said:
I loaded CM7 v2.5 into the NAND of my HD2. Everything ran great for about the first week. Now I am experiencing random reboots on an average of about once a day. At first, I thought ti might be related to overclocking. But even after returning to the default profile and on top of that UNINSTALLING SetCPU, the problem still persists.
It doesn't reboot the entire phone as in starting from the bootloader. It will freeze in the middle of whatever and fall back to the CM7 loading screen.
I see many people having this same problem and also many people with CM7 working just great. Has anyone yet determined the cause of this issue?
With that being said you still posted in the wrong section. This should be in the Q&A section. After blatantly stating your too lazy to follow a possible response to your question, its not that hard to just go to your statistics, then your posts and follow it from there. Its not like it would be pages ahead if your original question. To answer your question, you should upgrade your build.
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With that being said you still posted in the wrong section. This should be in the Q&A section. After blatantly stating your too lazy to follow a possible response to your question, its not that hard to just go to your statistics, then your posts and follow it from there. Its not like it would be pages ahead if your original question. To answer your question, you should upgrade your build.
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Hey Matt, here is a suggestion for you:
The next time you feel as if you are going to have diarrhea of the mouth, take it to the toilet instead of spewing it all over someone else. I already stated the obvious, and there is no need to be a complete D-Bag and start something that doesn't need to be started by rubbing it in.
If I posted in the wrong forum, oops oh well no big deal but there are better ways to let someone know. The first mod that sees this would move it anyways It's that simple.
And in response to your statement about being too lazy, I went through this whole route when I was running WM6.5 and the CleanEX ROM. I was told to post any issues in the main ROM thread, and usually I would have to sort through 2 - 3 pages of replies to find anything that was addressed to my question that is, as already stated, if it didn't go unnoticed among the thousands of other posts. This might be the way you and many others do things, but honestly it is an extremely unorganized way of getting a response. Tried it, and didn't care for it.
So with that being said, I kind of find it hard to believe that it is just the build that's causing the phone to act this way, unless it was discovered that this was actually a bug with the build (?). No offense, but people tend to see upgrading to a newer version as a universal fix-all.
You cant just ignore the rules and post anywhere you want, just because you cant be arsed to post and wait in the roms own thread. This forum is for posting developments/dev info etc, NOT for posting question topics.
Go use the Q&A section or post in your roms thread.
User/Thread reported.
Moved this thread to "HD2 Android Q&A and General" section.
Oh yeah. I closed the thread too. There is no reason to deliberately violate the rules and post in your OP that you did exactly that.
I don't really care how much you dislike the idea of posting an issue in the ROM release thread because that's how things are done.
This is the kind of thread that really irks me. You know all you're doing is getting yourself flamed and irritating a moderator....
The next time I see a thread like this from you, I'm not only going to close it but I'm going to delete it and infract you for deliberately breaking the rules.
Consider yourself warned.
dharvey4651
(Leo Forum Mod)
A plea to all users.
There are two things that are annoying in this forum:
People who can't use the search box....
But even more annoying, replies telling others to use it!
The idea is to keep a forum to the point. A question is asked and hopefully answered, and therefore doesn't have to be asked again. Hence the use of search.
A post asking the same question later is a useless post.
*However*, a post saying "Use the search button" is just a complete waste of time, space and energy.
Even though the former is annoying, it would be much easier instead of wasting a post on "Use the search function" with an appropriate answer, or even better, just don't post at all.
Both are forms of forum clogging, so don't think you're helping by being blatantly unhelpful.
Rant over.
This has already been posted about and discussed before, USE THE SEARCH!
PS. I understand what your saying but the only way to get through to these ignorant/lazy people is to be straight to teh point and tell them to use search and read stickies or to simply delete/close their topic and message why.
I agree. New people aren't going to search alot of the time, and even once they get scolded for it once or twice and learn their lesson, they don't know what keywords to use in their searches alot.
Then along comes some jackass who doesn't want to take the time to explain what the person should be searching for, or what way to go about it. Usually like you said telling the person in a rude way to use the search function.
In the end, it takes roughly the same amount of time and energy to help someone and show them how to do something for themself, as it would take to be a smart ass and be of no assistance.
Part of being a decent human being is to help others, even if it takes a little of your time, or is annoyingly repetitive. I would rather be a patient, helpful person than an impatient ass who doesn't have the self control to be kind and help others who are in a position I was once in, instead becoming annoyed and spewing snotty comments in an attempt to feel clever and superior.
So uhhh, yeahh... I guess I agree with your rant lol
But next time use the search function you damn noob theres already like 100 or so rants just like this one. lol
how can i go about putting adroid on my hd2
and can it be dual booted with winmo
and what is cwm and magdlr
Joking lol
well, i dont really agree. people dont get mad here because someone asks questions, its because they resist to read the first page of any thread (carefully) and then opening a new one, because they were to lazy or impatient to read. almost every issue can be solved, just by reading the first thread page. they look for the download link, download, do something and come back opening useless threads. i was also a noob, then like i allways do in any forum, i went thru the stickies. you get everything explained there (i dont mean the specific stuff, like memory mapings or kernel compiling).
cheers
here's the problem i often see on forums
you use search, you get an interesting old thread about your problem. You post on this thread with new questions... everyone just shouts: Don't revive an old thread create a new one... and when you create a new one, they shout : Use the damn search, it has been answered before etc... etc...
And most of the time when you use search, you get old threads and the latter may contain outdated irrelevant info.. hence sometimes i think it's better to just create a new fresh thread so that you can get the fresh info. just my opinion.
@ yeahman
I find your point on how members of xda will shout at another member for "reviving" an old thread to be ridiculous.
I'm sorry, but I've never encountered such before, if you could refer me to a thread with such then I'll come to accept your point, but for now, it's utterly ridiculous to me.
The search button may or may not answer your needs, it's impossible for all cases. However, what I've noticed, is a majority of new threads opened nowadays in the HD2 forum concern how to install MAGLDR, HSPL, radio, a Build, Cwm, or something in relation. Now first of all, none of those topics even require one to use the search button. All are referred to in the stickies of their respective forums.
So it all boils down to users being downright lazy.
I had a rant about this in the "About xda" section a while back....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920113
I did title it HD2 specific, but it's obviously not specific to the HD2. It just happens here a lot more than other forums because of the popularity of the device. I've seen it in other device forums (when I've had other devices) but never to the extent I've seen it here, especially since the introduction of Android.
People need to stop thinking about how their reaction relates to a specific user and how it makes them look. It's all about the forum, as that's 100% the reason why we're here.
Incidentally, as you'll see from that thread, the majority of posters agreed with our mutual point. It's nice to know we're not all shrivelled with envy and trying to prove something.
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@ yeahman
I find your point on how members of xda will shout at another member for "reviving" an old thread to be ridiculous.
I'm sorry, but I've never encountered such before, if you could refer me to a thread with such then I'll come to accept your point, but for now, it's utterly ridiculous to me.
The search button may or may not answer your needs, it's impossible for all cases. However, what I've noticed, is a majority of new threads opened nowadays in the HD2 forum concern how to install MAGLDR, HSPL, radio, a Build, Cwm, or something in relation. Now first of all, none of those topics even require one to use the search button. All are referred to in the stickies of their respective forums.
So it all boils down to users being downright lazy.
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i was talking about forums in general.. not xda in particular (probably i was a bit out of subject by saying that, srry about that).
yup i agree for threads like how to install MAGLDR, etc.., creating a new thread each time is not right as you say (it makes search results so difficult too as you get tons of redundant threads about it), there are so many stickies and faqs for that.
The SGS2 Development forums are being ruined!!!!
Its meant to be a forum where the great devs post their roms, but users are ruining it with posts, posts about
'how do I flash this kernal' or 'how do i flash this rom? what order do I flash it? how do I add a mod? this doesnt work?!!
thats not really nothing to do with Development of Roms, its laziness of not reading the General or Q and A forum! each of the two forums I have mention have a very in depth guide how to flash a kernal, flash a rom, flash anything!!! Also on the first page of EVERY rom is a guide on whats included/not included
this place is not a playschool, you shouldnt need your hands holding flashing anything to your phone, thats what search is for!!! you spent money on the phone......LEARN!!!!!
MODS..... You need to sort out the dev forum, it makes horrible reading the amount of off-topic posts (not telling you how to do your jobs, as you do your jobs very well!)
who agrees with me? look, my wife is not technology minded at all, but reading all the posts, she managed to install a kernal, installed a custom rom, root and install a couple mods.....surely my wife (bless her) doesnt know phones at all, managed to do that, surely any/every user can do the same, remember.....read General forum (STICKY POSTS) and Q & A forum, or use Google!!!!!
Another Thing....People expect EVERYTHING to work perfectly as soon as a new version of OS comes out, users were DEMANDING everything works on kitkat within days of first version coming out....give devs a break
Lastly a 'Well Done' to the Devs, who are still creating roms and mods for this nearly 3 year old phone, you deserve a bloody medal all of you the amount of stuff you have to put up with!!!
...and Breathe........
this post is in no way directed at one or two of you, its directed to the people who demand, and basically want everything done for them and handed to them on a plate.
Bravo.
I could say more, but I'm pretty much over the stage of lazy, demanding n00bs (and some not so n00bs who should know better) giving me the ****s. I learned it's just not worth getting worked up about, because nothing will ever be done about it. I figure if TPTB don't care, why should I ? 'God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, etc, etc'
But you've absolutely nailed it (5 starred & OP thanked).
Agree with MistahBungle here, well written and 100% true.
I am a keen follower of the ROM NeatROM and you wont believe the amount of off-topic crap that appears there everyday.
I mean, i have seen some problems posted in this thread that remotely has nothing to do with Neatrom or any other ROM for that matter. Some guys have even starting to talk and discuss about whether they should flash .pit files or not.. <-- That has absolutely nothing to do with neatrom or any rom actually.
To make even matters worse.. everyday you just keep seeing the same question/issue posted, the posters dont even have the decency to search! Even with the custom search bar that searches only in the specific threads!
I feel bad for the NeatROM seniors that repeatedly have to answer the same question.. and be completely ignored when trying to control the chaos that is the NeatROM thread.
The sad truth of this is that no one who actually needs to read this will read it, and the same crappy cycle of ignorance will continue on until the Galaxy S2 forum bit by bit will die slowly and painfully.