Have you noticed that the Cingular 8525 emits a boatload of RF interferance to almost any device? I've had various cell phones in the past, where leaving the phone too close to a speaker or TV would cause you to hear that occasional GSM/GPRS buzz sound. With my 8525 I can't even place the PDA on the coffee table without it getting into the TV's speakers. If it sits within 10 feet of our 5.8 GHz cordless phone base, we hear it OVERPOWER our home phone conversation. I can't place it too close to my computer speakers either or I'll hear it from the bedroom buzzing away. If I put it near my Sirius radio in the car (which is connected via line level RCA's), I hear the buzz in my car speakers.
If this thing is putting out this much more radiation compared to other phones and devices, what do you think its doing to your brain when you are using it for a phone call. Don't mean to open a new can of worms here, but has anyone had this device cause so much interference with everything? I just have to be careful where I put it, or the finance will scream and yell about not being able to talk on the cordless phone, or hear it in the TV. Her LG Cingular phone can charge right next to our cordless phone base station and you never hear a peep out of it.
This thing emits the buzzing sound quite frequently. I have MS Direct Push exchange e-mail set up, SPB Weather Plus getting updates, as well as an RSS Reader getting updates periodically. I have an unlimited data plan through my job.
Can't say I'd noticed this, more than other phones anyway. I think though your answer is in your second last sentence.
Mike
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Can't say I'd noticed this, more than other phones anyway. I think though your answer is in your second last sentence.
Mike
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quotes for emphasis. THe buzzing is caused when the phone is in use, either making a phone call or more specifically when using the data part.
I have noticed it on my TyTN during boot, when the radio is initializing, but not otherwise. It does interfere with the stereo in my car when I am receiving email, SMS or when a call is coming in, but that's with any mobile phone (some worse than others).
Well I've had those old Nokia bar phones, a Motorola V300, a Nokia 6103, and my fiance's LG phone (with PTT). While they will emit the buzzing interference if really close to a speaker, tv, or radio, nothing comes close to the loudness and frequency of the 8525. I do understand this device goes out and communicates on the network much more frequently. It seems like it is a very strong radio though. Have to admit, I have more bars in the house than the LG flip phone.
Not nearly as much as my Treo 650
Occasionally I get feed back on cheaper (poorly sheilded) speaker sets - most notable is the baby monitor at home and this weird pair of speakers one of my clients has that, I'm not making this up, tunes in two FM radio stations simultaneously when they are turned off
My Treo, on the other hand, could announce my presence from 30 feet away on just about every small electronic speaker (ipod dock, alarm clock, PC speaker around). My wife finally made me relocate my charging station because the feedback on the baby monitor was disturbing the kids. So in comparison I'd say my TyTN is no big deal: then again I'm in Chicago running on HSPDA rather than EDGE and that appears to make a difference.
I would be concerned- I never used my Treo as a handset for obvious ergonomic reasons but Hermes is far more 'phone like' though I again just do bluetooth all day long.
Cypherstream- are you in a 3G or GRPS area? Mine actually makes less electromagnetic interference than my old s710a Sony. But when I force my 8525 into GSM instead of WCDMA it makes WAY more e.m. interference in my speakers. So I know what your talkin about but check and see if you have a G rather than a U.
Beginning to think this must be a GPRS-band thing that's particularly bad with HTC devices. And I mean they interfere with everything. They can make speakers roar and CRT monitors go crazy.
I recently switched from a Cingular 2125 to the 8525, but unfortunately didn't lose the "buzz". However, I was relieved to learn that my 8525 is as quiet as a mouse when running in UMTS (U/3G) or HSDPA (H) mode. In GPRS (G) or EDGE (E) mode, it's every bit as bad as my 2125, which topped out at EDGE (E).
So, no, you're not alone.
This is a problem with ALL GSM phones... once the 8525 switches into 3G (WCDMA) the problem goes away...
Well our area is GPRS. They don't offer 3G / UTMS towers where I live. Closest place is Allentown. I live in Reading, PA and work in Morgantown, PA.
Just yesterday the TV was buzzing. The phone was on the coffee table!
Just an update to this thread... I went out of town to Vicksburg, MS this weekend and there is only GSM available there (G icon). Anyway, I actually got a horrible nights sleep because of the GSM noise!! Anywhere in the hotel room you could hear it handshaking with the tower over and over (must have been on a cusp of two towers..) At about 5am I put it in flight mode, then two hours later some dogs went crazy and my wife and I drove back home.... Should have just turned the TV off, but for some reason I just didnt....
Speaker Feedback on DEVICE, NOT EXTERNAL
Mine goes into feedback mode whenever the unit checks POP mail. My sync from my exchange server is fine. But whenever it's pulling mail it does the GSM chatter dance.. and I'M NOT TALKING ON SOME OTHER SPEAKERS.. on the PHONE ITSELF! Absolutely unacceptable in my opinion, again the HTC's OWN SPEAKER will feedback on itself.. I was in a Kayak for about 4 hours on Saturday and the darn thing spent 10 seconds every 5 minutes just buzzing and squalking it's heart out.. and there wasn't an unshielded speaker except the one in the phone.. for miles and miles...
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All of a sudden yesterday my Wizard started to make the "GSM Buzzing" noise out of the internal speakers. It's really annoying especially when it checks E-Mail all the time with DirectPush.
Any fix for this or is it done for?
This is my second Wizard, and the third problem with this one (The screen also needs to be re-aligned all the time, as well as it always thinks the time zone is Saskatchewan, which moves all my appointments around 1 hour.)
I think it's time to call Cingular.
GSM Buzzing through internal speakers on 8125 also
My fiance and I both have the 8125 and we both have the same problem. The noise bleeds all over everything with speakers.
I get that but
i get that but instead its everything else with a speaker... car radio.. tv and everything
That's the infamous and notorious GSM "buzz". Only thing you can do to stop it is move it at least 3 feet away from whatever piece of equipment the interference is with. Just have to adjust and learn to live with it.
The GSM buzz is not limited to the 8125, all my GSM phones produce that buzz over my TV and computer speakers when I have an incming call.
Hi guys!
Great forum you are running here. I have been a regular reader for some time now and learned a lot. I solved a few problems as well. So let me stress the reason writing this post. I currently own a TyTN, with which I am more then happy. Due to my job and private requirements the TyTN is lacking some features and I intend to swoop it for the Advantage. Before doing so I would like to know few, for me essential, things.
1.) how long does your battery last (going from full charge 100% to 0%), let’s say with the amount of conversation per day lasts 10-20min, few SMSes, some gaming…. I have seen some posts »long time« ago, when the Advantage was releases, but now you have more experience…
2.) how strong are the magnets holding together the KB and the device? In another words how easily can the devise fell off? I saw on the BBC World, last Thursday in the evening, on the show called “Click” that the device has detached from the KB very quickly when trying to operate it with finger. Any thoughts? Your experience?
Thanks for your answers! Would very much appreciate your comments!
Uros, Slovenia
So far I'm very satisfied with the battery considering the screen big size. Compared to my previous Hermes, I feel not much difference. And the magnets are very strong. Relating to the "Click" show, I think it's just a matter of how you hold your phone. I always type using my thumbs, the rest fingers supporting both the keyboard and the main unit.
I had the HTC TYTN and Uni before i bought this. i can tell you will be satisfied. it is a great device.
I get a good 1 day of very heavy usage, possibly 36 hours if I were to push it to very low battery. I prefer to charge it during the night though, so I have a fresh charge in the morning. That way I have absolutely no worries that I will run out during the day.
I have my LCD brightness on the 3 step from the lowest, and I do not use WiFi at all (I use Edge for data, maybe 2 hours a day). I also talk about 1-2 hours daily. Plenty of emails, SMS, and other typing is done. The screen is probably turned on 5 hours a day in total.
You can easily pick up and use the keyboard if you use both hands (very safe when using the leather case, less so without). 1 hand typing is possible, but it's not very comfortable.
I suggest you get a bluetooth headset with a very strong battery though, I find that the Dopod bluetooth headset isn't very long lasting and I run out at the end of the day (sometimes in mid conversation )
wired connection to the internet, but not via USB-ActiveSync or WiFi
Thanks guys. My made my decision very easy...
One additional thing though: can the device connect to the internet via usual Ethernet outlet (not via USB&ActiveSync or Wifi). Which adapters are required to do so? At home I do not have a wireless router so I am wondering if this is possible…
Thanks again
Ameo usability problem and solution!
I thought I'd give my opinion on the Ameo after a week of usage.
My primary intention when upgrading to the Ameo was to sell me Vario 2 and use the Ameo as an all-in-one device for emailing, calling, texting, surfing and multimedia. Unfortunately the phone aspect leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion:
In fact I found the device to be pretty much unusable as a phone.
For one, simply holding the handset to my ear feels embarassing, ridiculous and not at all comfortable. Separating the device from the keyboard and carrying the main device alone is also impractical as it leaves me without a keyboard should the need to text arise (it also leaves the phone more prone to scratching).
If a call comes through I have to pull the magnetic keyboard off, turn the volume down and hope no-one is standing near enough to overhear my conversation!
THE AMEO JUST FEELS WRONG AS A PHONE!
Using a bluetooth headset is a solution of types, but it means I don't know who's calling without unpacking the device and checking. It also leaves the added disadvantage of having TWO batteries liable to drain with heavy usage of the phone. The wired earpiece is a battery-free alternative which is fine if you happen to be sat in a cafe with your earphones plugged in, but hardly practical!
Everything else about the device I love:
The keyboard, despite opinions to the contrary, feels very responsive to me. It has a beautiful soft, high-quality feel to it. It doesn't feel 'clacky'. I was originally going to use my freedom bluetooth keyboard but I actually prefer the Ameo one - it just takes a bit of getting used to.
Battery life is astonishing in my opinion: I spent all day on it yesterday using WiFi and it didn't run out of juice till the evening. I would say battery life is as good if not BETTER than the Hermes.
The screen is superb for Satnav and web browsing, particularly with Mrtruevga installed - it feels almost like surfing on a laptop. My only gripe in this respect would be that Opera in particular (put PIE to some degree) is a little sluggish loading pages given the quality of the Ameo's hardware.
After getting used to the Ameo's features I decided that I definitely want to keep it, but don't want to use it as a phone as I SIMPLY COULDN'T LIVE WITH IT FOR THIS PURPOSE. My solution was this:
Sell my Vario ii,
Buy a Samsung z560 on Ebay (78quid!)
setup bluetooth DUN on AMEO with z560 (very easy)
I now have a pocketable phone with a decent auto-focus camera and mp3 capabilites for when I'm out and about, and a permanent BT connection to my Ameo for when i need to surf, email and use messenger. The Ameo connects automatically when in range which is rather useful, and battery life with both devices is great in my opinion (the fact that the z560 comes with two batteries is doubly helpful).
So all-in-all i'm very happy with my setup now. If anyone has any other ideas on how to make the Ameo into a practical telephone then I'd be very interested to hear them!
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Using a bluetooth headset is a solution of types, but it means I don't know who's calling without unpacking the device and checking. It also leaves the added disadvantage of having TWO batteries liable to drain with heavy usage of the phone.
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I've been using my Dopod U1000 pairing with i.Tech Clip D bluetooth headset for the whole month and have no problem at all identifying incoming calls. Very handy I believe.
Ameo usability problem and solution!
I thought I'd give my opinion on the Ameo after a week of usage.
My primary intention when upgrading to the Ameo was to sell me Vario 2 and use the Ameo as an all-in-one device for emailing, calling, texting, surfing and multimedia. Unfortunately the phone aspect leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion:
In fact I found the device to be pretty much unusable as a phone.
For one, simply holding the handset to my ear feels embarassing, ridiculous and not at all comfortable. Separating the device from the keyboard and carrying the main device alone is also impractical as it leaves me without a keyboard should the need to text arise (it also leaves the phone more prone to scratching).
If a call comes through I have to pull the magnetic keyboard off, turn the volume down and hope no-one is standing near enough to overhear my conversation!
THE AMEO JUST FEELS WRONG AS A PHONE!
Using a bluetooth headset is a solution of types, but it means I don't know who's calling without unpacking the device and checking. It also leaves the added disadvantage of having TWO batteries liable to drain with heavy usage of the phone. The wired earpiece is a battery-free alternative which is fine if you happen to be sat in a cafe with your earphones plugged in, but hardly practical!
Everything else about the device I love:
The keyboard, despite opinions to the contrary, feels very responsive to me. It has a beautiful soft, high-quality feel to it. It doesn't feel 'clacky'. I was originally going to use my freedom bluetooth keyboard but I actually prefer the Ameo one - it just takes a bit of getting used to.
Battery life is astonishing in my opinion: I spent all day on it yesterday using WiFi and it didn't run out of juice till the evening. I would say battery life is as good if not BETTER than the Hermes.
The screen is superb for Satnav and web browsing, particularly with Mrtruevga installed - it feels almost like surfing on a laptop. My only gripe in this respect would be that Opera in particular (put PIE to some degree) is a little sluggish loading pages given the quality of the Ameo's hardware.
After getting used to the Ameo's features I decided that I definitely want to keep it, but don't want to use it as a phone as I SIMPLY COULDN'T LIVE WITH IT FOR THIS PURPOSE. My solution was this:
Sell my Vario ii,
Buy a Samsung z560 on Ebay (78quid!)
setup bluetooth DUN on AMEO with z560 (very easy)
I now have a pocketable phone with a decent auto-focus camera and mp3 capabilites for when I'm out and about, and a permanent BT connection to my Ameo for when i need to surf, email and use messenger. The Ameo connects automatically when in range which is rather useful, and battery life with both devices is great in my opinion (the fact that the z560 comes with two batteries is doubly helpful).
So all-in-all i'm very happy with my setup now. If anyone has any other ideas on how to make the Ameo into a practical telephone then I'd be very interested to hear them!
leoni1980
very simply- buy a bluetooth headset and keep the brick in your pocket.
I use an I-tech d clip as I don't like something stuck on my ear.
With microsoft voice command you have nearly 100% accuracy dialing from contacts and the d clip has call number display. the only drawback of the d clip is no vibrate alert.
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leoni1980
very simply- buy a bluetooth headset and keep the brick in your pocket.
I use an I-tech d clip as I don't like something stuck on my ear.
With microsoft voice command you have nearly 100% accuracy dialing from contacts and the d clip has call number display. the only drawback of the d clip is no vibrate alert.
regards
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I got the BlueAnt V12 headset, which has a vibrating feature AND an LCD display to display incoming calls (number only) and status (nice). This is working very well for me. It also has a very good range. I left my phone in the car and came into the house... and it was still connected. I have been keeping it in my shirt pocket or, if sans pocket like today, on the included lanyard, which is fine if you don't mind the fashion statement. Using voice dial, the BlueAnt is essentially a mini-phone.
Also the speakerphone feature on the phone itself is also very usable, best I've seen. Signal strength has been better than any phone to date. All in all, as a phone, I would give it a solid rating... if you can get past not having being able to hold it up to your ear.
As an alternative bluetooth headset besides i.Tech Clip D, try Jabra BT8010 that is also able to show contact names when using with Jetware.
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As an alternative bluetooth headset besides i.Tech Clip D, try Jabra BT8010 that is also able to show contact names when using with Jetware.
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I think these are all good ideas but i still prefer my solution.
Yesterday for example I was able to take my pup for a walk in my shorts and tee shirt with my samsung sat merrily and comfortably in my pocket. The idea of having my Ameo swinging round my neck by a Lanyard with a Bluetooth device on my ear is slightly frightening - particularly given the delicate nature of the microdrive and the possibility of being both mugged and garotted at the same time.
I don't need an Ameo when I'm going to the shops or popping out into town, but its there for me whenever i need it - ready to connect just as easily to my phone as it would to a bluetooth headset. The only disadvantage I can see is that a Bluetooth 1.2 connection does not have the same bandwidth as a direct HSDPA connection through the device itself. However in practise I have found there to be great difference in browsing speed using Wifi, HSDPA through the Ameo itself or HSDPA through a BT DUN connection.
The benefits, I think, clearly outweigh the drawbacks.
Any thoughts?
Well to me i just find it slightly impractical to to carry two devices around... for example when u want to use gprs on the ameo do you switch the sim card?
just seems a bit much to do to avoid having to use a bluetooth headset
I don't think it's any more impractical than carrying a bluetooth headset around. i would say it's more convenient really as the ameo is very cumbersome to have on one's person at all times .
For GPRS I never use the Ameo's built in transmitter- as I said I just have a bluetooth connection to my other phone which gives me very fast browsing speeds in itself, but where available i also use WiFi.
I see no need to use my Ameo as a phone outright - as it stands I have all the browsing and multimedia capabilities I need wherever I need them with my Ameo, coupled with the convenience of a 'normal' phone for making and receiving calls and texting on the move.
All this with no Sim-swapping in sight!
can't the dog carry the Ameo?????
he may need it for the weather forecast.
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can't the dog carry the Ameo?????
he may need it for the weather forecast.
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Haha very good. I'll have to take a look on Pucci for a doggy Ameo travel case. Seems like a must-have.
Seriously though I love my Ameo: it's got serious wow factor as a portable browsing device, emailer and music/video player and the build quality is SUPERB. (I really like the keyboard too despite the lack of backlight). However i can't help but feel that all that 'wow' factor is immediately negated once someone calls you and you are forced to fumble for your bluetooth headset (or unfasten wallet, take keyboard off, turn volume down and hold monolythic metal brick against head). Any avoidance of using the device as a phone without losing any other key features is in my opinion a wise move, especially if it lessens the chance of my Ameo being seen/stolen, or getting knocked about.
seriously
the d-clip can sit in your ear on a walk and no-one will notice it.
the mic clips on your neckline
to answer the call you put your finger to your ear and push the button on the earplug, very simple, no fumbling.
every pooch needs http://www.pielframa.net/prodi.asp?id=1798
they can then bragg about the crocodile hunt.
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seriously
the d-clip can sit in your ear on a walk and no-one will notice it.
the mic clips on your neckline
to answer the call you put your finger to your ear and push the button on the earplug, very simple, no fumbling.
every pooch needs http://www.pielframa.net/prodi.asp?id=1798
they can then bragg about the crocodile hunt.
Regards
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thiis a lot more practical than using the built-in speakerphone! theres still the major drawback of having to carry the handset with you at all times though. whilst this is fine if you have a jacket or combats with big pockets its still never goong to be practical in a lot of instances; for example if you wanted to go out of an afternoon and sit in a beergarden with your mates. i just dont feel comfortable having such a big expensive item on me. as i imagine most people got their ameos on upgrade i wonder how many of them have kept their old phone for more practical communication when big pockets arent available.
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can't the dog carry the Ameo?????
he may need it for the weather forecast.
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... i'll buy my dog (a big bernese-mountain-dog) next week an Ameo !
... what's about the quality (sound & volume) of Ameo's hands-free? - is it usable in the car?
- is it good enough to take calls when "Flocki" (the dog) is carrying the Ameo?
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... i'll buy my dog (a big bernese-mountain-dog) next week an Ameo !
... what's about the quality (sound & volume) of Ameo's hands-free? - is it usable in the car?
- is it good enough to take calls when "Flocki" (the dog) is carrying the Ameo?
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Yes, absoultely (although his / her fur is kept out the way of the mic).
I fidn that the Ameo comes into its own in partnership with a Jabra BT8010 - a fantatsic little device.
Curious if it works with the Kaiser and if you would recommend it.
Thanks!
http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/product/details.jsp?globalObjectId=177
Motorola S9
New to this site. First time poster. I just got these headphones for my Tilt. I tried them with my 8125 using mfrazz WM6 rom and they worked well. Volume got fairly loud and sound quality was pretty good.
I haven't gotten my microSD card yet for the Tilt, but listened to some of the music that came with phone. Volume was lower, but I don't know if that was the audio level of that particular file. I haven't tried it with any personal mp3 files. I placed a phone call with this headset and sound quality was average. The caller could only be heard through the left earphone, not stereo.
The headset was fairly comfortable to wear, but I haven't tried it for extended periods. I'm going to try using it while running this weekend to see how well it stays in place.
that combo works great for me, used them at the gym all the time
There are many many user comments about these headphones over at Howard Forums bluetooth message forum. I went thrui 2 paris of these. Both failed for the same reason, The first lasted 1 week. the second lasted 1 month. The issue is they aren't really sweatproof as they claim. if you sweat alopt (and running in Phoenix will make you sweat), they konk out (i.e. technical term for stop working altogehter) after a while. The seals aren't really tight enough to keep water out. I tried a second one cuaz there were rumors of a bad inital batch. so I got a one from a later batch a couple months after and it did the same.
Two other issues with them: they tended to skip alot and also people complained it wasn';t very good for calls. So, if you have had good xperience with them that's great. But if you are still considering them, be forewarned. I loved the concept of them. But they just didn't meet their own marketing's expectations IMO.
Im now looking at the Plantronics 855, which is just becoming avail. No it's not sweatproof (but at least they don't claim to be). I;ve given up on getting a sweatproof BT headset for now. But otherwise, it looks like it might be a great solution for both calls and "casual" music.
Here's my two cents...
I bought the S9 headphones a few months ago after using the Motorola HT820's for close to a year (the HT820's are the ones that make you look like Mickey Mouse when you wear them).
The pros:
- The sleeker design of the S9 dont make you look like Mickey Mouse or Princess Lea. In fact, many people don't even realize I'm wearing headphones at all...
- They generally sound good
- The controls on both ears allow you to start/stop phone calls, raise and lower the volume, start/stop music and change music tracks
The cons (as compared with the HT820):
- Battery life is not wonderful -- the HT820's provide 14 hours or music, the S9 seem to provide more like 8
- Phone call audio plays only in one ear (the left one, to be exact). I had gotten used to phone calls in stereo...
- The middle button on each ears' control panel is a bit hard to use -- and those are the buttons which are used to start/stop phone calls and play/pause music
Overall, the sound quality is good. I dont usually have many dropouts during music and almost never during phone calls. People have never complained that they cant hear me speaking when using the S9 for calls.
Hope this helps....
Music sounds pretty decent. Not on caliber with a nice set of wired phones, but compared to the Shure Ec3, I'd give them a 7. On the plus side, if you can get a good fit for your ear, the bass response is a bit better than some of the "reference" quality earbuds. I think this is a matter of taste though.
Comfort is OK, but my ears do get a bit sore after an hour or so, but never to the point where I feel the need to take them off.
Music controls work fine, but I have not had great luck with activating incoming calls from the headset. Sometimes it works, others not. The buttons don't have a great tactile feel, so I may not be hitting the accept call button squarely. I also notice the music does not always pick right back up after using the head set activation button, so for these reasons, I usually hit the call accept button on the phone. This works fine.
I do get occasional skipping, but this seems to be related to Activesync.
I get occasional droped connections. Just turn the headset off and back on to reconnect. Happens maybe 1 out of 7 times I use them, and usually in the first few minutes - odd.
Phone call quality leaves a lot to be desired. For some reason, they only play through one ear when on a call and is seems that no matter what I do, the incoming person is too loud and boomy, even when I turn it way down. Usually this is passable for a short conversation, but if the person on the other end has an unfamiliar accent, I wind up having to switch over to the handset. People in general say they can hear me fine, but I don not use them in an environment with a lot of ambient noise.
That being said, I still use them very often at work as I don't get a lot of personal calls during the day. Battery life is usually sufficient for most of the day on a full charge. If you are at your desk the entire day, you may find they are drained before the end of the day (6-7 hours).
For home, I was thinking about picking up a pair of the Bluetrek phones. From the reviews I have read, if they fit you well, the sound quality is good, the battery life is a bit longer (though not much), they play phone calls in both ears and come with a nice carry case.
One final consideration, for some reason they do not get very loud with the Kaiser connection. It is still adequate, but if you like your music really loud, they may be lacking. I wouldn't rile them out on this though as they are plenty loud when connecting to my laptop, so there might be some software limitation on the volume which can be tweaked in the registry. I have seen some others mentioning this too and have not come across a fix yet, but I'd be willing to bet there will be one as soon as the BT headphones start getting more use.
Does anyone on here have it? How well does it work with WM6 and the Kaiser in general?
Sorry if this has been addressed in the past. I tried searching the Accessories forum with both basic and advanced searches and came back with no results. Which is odd considering I could have SWORN I saw it talked about here at some point int he past.
I have a Jabra BT620s, which is also A2DP. It is total crap. I would look at a different brand. Motorola headsets are supposed to work well.
Jabra BT8010 and Tilt
joshuah82 said:
Does anyone on here have it? How well does it work with WM6 and the Kaiser in general?
Sorry if this has been addressed in the past. I tried searching the Accessories forum with both basic and advanced searches and came back with no results. Which is odd considering I could have SWORN I saw it talked about here at some point int he past.
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I have the 8010 and it with all due respect to the previous poster, it works great. I have used it with the original shipped ROM and several cooked ROMS (Currently on Sleuth's 6.1 ver 3) and it worked well with all of them. I will say it seems to work the best (longer distance from the PPC) with the radio included in Sleuth's 6.1
Can either of you provide more specific information about the issues you had with it? I've never had a bluetooth headset before so I might not even notice.
My BT620s sounded like a bad record. The pitch kept shifting very subtly, but it is INSANELY annoying and makes it completely un-listenable. Also, it would drop audio for about 5 seconds of every minute, which is very annoying. It had trouble with pairing, when you turned it off, it would sometimes refuse to re-connect to the phone. The call quality with it was OK though. I sold mine and bought a pair of Motorolas.
i have the bt8010 (only for a week) and the head set is pretty good
i have had the headset cut out on me i think there is interference from the cell or wifi. but it doesn't happen all the time. the battery life is good i have played at least 9 hours of music (stereo) straight before it need a charge. the sound quality is ok, there is some distortion on the extreme high and low notes.
but it is wireless
the headset need to be angled in a upward angle in order to be conformable (at least for me) i was able to were it for 3 hours with out a problem
the cord between the ears some times get pulled by twisting my neck, it's about 1 inch too long
i have used it in a noisy production floor and the person on the other side head me fine, a little downed out but they didn't hear the hum of the loud machine in the background and because i had the stereo on i head him better then on my phone, and yes you do hear the person on both right and left sides.
i was going to get a Motorola (mono) one but i got this one because the talk time and standby life is longer (according to specs) and this one has stereo option.
this is the only headset that you could switch from work to play
i am happy with it, and other around me like it.
btw i got mine refurbished.
I have the BT8010. I've had it for about 7 to 8 months now, maybe longer.
I really do not like the headset at all. It has great sound so don't get me wrong. If sound is all you are interested in then go for it. But if you are looking for fit or the ear loops to stay on then they aren't the ones.
For me, the fit for me is horrible and the headset hurts because I have small ears.
SECOND and this is the BIGGEST LET DOWN, the ear loops keep falling out.
So if you get it go ahead and call and order some extras right away. You can contact them via phone I think and they will send you a few. Just keep one in your wallet and one in the car and some @ home, and some in your briefcase.
The ear loops fall out way too easy for my tastes. I'm currently looking for another set of A2DB enabled headsets.
I use it for some 4 month. Mostly monoaural. It's ok, but...
Pros: VERY good sound quality (noise reduction, environment supression), good battery lifetime (up to 3 days), clear display, handy controls.
Cons: the ear hanger (? sorry for my english) slips out from the unit causing unit to fall, fast dial numbers are too short (cannot add cell codes e.g. enabling my phone number identification before dial number), does not fit perfectly into the ear - the sound is good when I puch it with my finger toward my ear, but listening to the music is a bit painful (not full spectrum due to distance between speaker and ear-hole that cannot be, at least in my case, adjusted).
Overall: good design/performance. Better quality then BT800 (my previous earphone). Cannot be securely and properly adjusted toward ear.
has anyone got more insight on this headset... i am looking in purhcasing it.
I use the 8010. The only complaint I had was the ear hook kept falling out, like the poster above. What I did was to superglue the hook in. Now, it doesn't fall, and it fit tighter to the ear, making it better to hear conversations and music. I lost one of the hooks before, and when I called jabra to order another set of hooks, they sent me out a Free pair, no ? asked, so support is great. Now, you can find the headset at a very good price. I paid $100 for mines, you can find them for $40-60.
Jabra BT8010 connection
I also have problems with the ear loop falling out. But it's not that often.
What I find annoying is that it doesn't automatically connect to my HTC prophet as stereo headphones when I switch the Jabra to music mode. I have to manually go into bluetooth settings and click on Jabra BT8010 to set as stereo headphones. Does anyone have a fix for this? If I don't do the above steps, AVRCP is able to work, but music will still come out of the phone. It would be nice if I can just listen to music with a push of the mode button without having to fumble for my phone.
i have em .. and to be honest i cant really complain
the only problem ive actually had is like everyone else has mentioned...the ear loop comming off..but thats so small in comparison to what they have to offer.
imo :
the sync from my car to my home bt system is awesome!
the clarity is superb
volume, settings, caller id and the phonebook work flawlessly..and to top it off i got em off of ebay for 25 bucks brand new with a reciept..
cant beat it!
i ahve jabra bt620s and sound is too low, how can i increase the sound on bt headset
the best bluetooth I know so far is Itech. They don't sell here but you can find it on ebay. A2DP, bluetooth stereo, cliping on you cloth, looks like a ipod shuttle on you collar.
Does anyone actually use the phone as a phone? I'm finding that the echo cancel really limits the quality of the phone. I can hardly carry on a decent conversation in the car using the supplied headset.
Does anyone else have this problem?
Try this: connect the headset. Call your phone from another phone. Listen to both at the same time. You can clearly hear when you talk that the phone is suppressing noise.
What I find is that when I'm in the car, it actually seems to suppress the volume of the person on the other end! So, it can be very frustrating as I miss words that they say.
Combine this with AT&T's marvelous AGC (where if you don't talk, it cranks the volume so that when you do talk, it blows the person on the other end away!), and the total quality of the call is horrible.
I've been using cell phones for almost 20 years. This is the worst phone quality I've ever experience.
When I use the phone directly for calls, everything sounds clear and at a consistent volume with one exception, while waiting for the other party to answer, the call ringing tone goes up and down in volume.
I've paired 3 different bluetooth headsets to the phone and found that the volume in my headset goes up and down quite a bit. Usually it's the worst at the beginning of the call. Sometimes I can't hear the other person answer but then it levels out a bit and the volume fluctuations are less extreme. I've tried an old Sony Ericsson, a Jabra Extreme, and have settled on a Plantronics Voyager Pro+. The Voyager is about the best I've tried but still exhibits the volume fluctuations but not as bad. It also supports A2DP so I can listen to podcasts through the headset.
I use it with the Sync system in my ford f150 and have no problems at all. It works great. I dont use headsets so..........only my sync system
I thought it was just me. My Plantronics 925 does this as well. Calls from the phone are fine, but the headset volume cuts in and out. Is this a bad Bluetooth stack or other problem? I think I remember another phone (WM 6.5) that had to get hacked to fix this. I'm a little miffed on this. Did anyone at Samsung or ATT test the bluetooth on this phone before selling it?
I have had very good call quality whether using the "phone as a phone", the phones speaker phone, or a blue ant bluetooth headset. I have had poor call quality only when trying to call someone in very low signal area. That has only been once. Otherwise overall clarity and volume have not been an issue, actually phone volume on high is too loud for my ears!
adding to my earlier post. I exchanged my Focus due to an unrelated issue. Both handsets had the same fade out issue with the bluetooth headsets. I've experienced it on every call so I don't think it's signal related. I don't see any volume fluctuation at all when using the handset without the bluetooth headset. I've tried the same three bluetooth headsets on my wife's iPhone 3GS and all work fine. I've also streamed at least a couple of hours of podcasts from the Focus to my headset and the volume is perfectly level. Whatever the issue, it's only related to phone calls. Very frustrating.
I've experienced the same issues. I have an Aliph Jawbone Icon. Before I updated the firmware on it I could barely hear someone on the other end. With the new jawbone firmware I have the ability to control the volume in the headset and only when I have it turned all the way up does it work ok. I do, however, still have trouble when people are talking that when the first start and or finish talking what they say seems to get clipped. Further, the volume seems to fade in and out. Also, if I'm using the AT&T navigator software and have my headset attached it will give me directions through the headset, but the end of every direction gets chopped off. So, the avene or street part of a direction doesn't come through.
I've been following this issue in a few different forums. Today a moderator in the Microsoft Answers forum jumped in and said they were experiencing the same problem and they would escalate the issue.
http://social.answers.microsoft.com...4ce-30ee-4734-9dab-28ce0d561132?prof=required
Can't recommend this phone
I was so excited when I first got my Focus. I thought it was such a huge step forward for MS mobile and actually had some chance at being mainstream. Sure it lacked a few features but there was the hope that MS would update the phone quickly. After all, they seemed to have made such phenomenal progress in getting the phone to market, seemed like fixing a few things and adding a few features would be a no-brainer.
Well, here we are 3 months later (Apple released the first update for iPhone 1.0.1 only one month later) and lots of rumors but nothing substantial on the long-awaited update. We'll see cut/paste but it's not at all clear if they will address anything else.
Here in CA we have a law that says we can't talk on the phone unless it's hands free. For the first time since that law was imposed, I've been regularly breaking it. I can't use a handsfree headset. Even the wired one that comes with the phone is so damn inconvenient that by the time I get it going, the caller is long gone. So, seemingly MAJOR features like BT headsets appear to get no notice at all from MS. I've looked through all the threads and there's nothing from MS. They don't even acknowledge the problem.
Looking at the thread from mcraine, I don't see where MS is going to do anything about this. Also, don't see any indication that it's part of any forthcoming updates.
Too bad. I thought this MS had a chance with this phone but they are blowing it big time. Momentum is gone now. If we have to wait another 3 months to get the browser fixed then the phone is destined to be like the Palm Pre. Good phone but can't keep up with the 'big' boys. This horse jumped out of the gate and was looking really good for the first couple of strides but then completely fell down and they are trying to coax it to get up again.
same issue here as well. mine is only a month old. it is not as noticable when sync'd to the car, but still noticable. and as said before more at the beginning of the call. if there were not issues, it would not be M$