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Ok guys, so I patch the firmware to get AD2p....
What headset(s) do you guys like? Being able to use them for both audio AND phone calls is a must..... seamlessly is even better.
Recommendations?
I have an Atom and I have the motorola ht820s.
When I'm not driving, they are excellent for music/speech and answering calls seamlessly. Mini-usb charger(same as atom) is an added bonus for me.
Highly recommend.
(reason for not driving is that in cali, you can't wear headphones while driving, so I use regular BT hands free for when i'm in car)
Motorola HT820 headphones work great with my T-Mobile MDA. Here is my review at pocketnow.com. At the time of the review the A2DP fix for the MDA was not available, but once I installed A2DP, it worked like a charm.
The motos are good if you want a well integrated phone/stereo headset that has no issues with the wizard, but I sent mine back for replacement because they didn't compare to the HP FA303s (Logitech is the same thing) when it came to hifi sound and max volume. The motos exhibited a real noticable distortion in the high end frequencies when compared to the FA303s. I'm hoping I got a defective pair because I really liked how comfortable they were too.
Stay away from the IOgear stereo/phone headset. A friend of mine let me try his and while the fidelity and volume was even better than the HPs, there were serious bluetooth connection issues. I had to refresh the device in bluetooth settings every time I wanted to use it just to get it to pair up, and the phone headset never worked properly.
Do the HP/Logitech ones have full PHONE functionality as well? I want to be able to make/receive a phone call while listening to stereo music without having to dork around with taking off the phones, etc.
No, that is their downfall: no phone headset capability. That in a nutshell is why there's no perfect solution out there IMO...
G-SAT BTH 820
I just got the G-SAT BTH 820. They has a small bluetooth until which the headphones plug into (allowing any headphones with a 3.5mm jack) to work. The bluetooth unit has the media player controls and the mic and is quite small (think of a shorter IPOD shuffle). Volume is really good; sound quality good, though slight background noise. While there is a wire from the headphones to the bluetooth unit, you are still untethered from your PPC..and i prefer being able to use the really light headphones (since the bluetooth unit and controls are not in the headphone). A great value since they are only around $60.
BES102 + BES103
I have the BES102 bluetooth stereo headset. It's great value for money since, aside from the headset, it also comes with the BES103 bluetooth transmitter dongle which can be used with any audio source. The headset also comes with a detachable mic attachment to enable you to receive calls while listening to music on your phone-enabled PDA (though I have not been able to make it work; I think it's an A2DP flaw). It also comes with a power adaptor, a USB cable and a splitter power cable that lets you charge both headset and dongle at the same time.
I got it for less than S$100 at Trendsmobile.
Sleuth255, im thinking if i should get the HP or Motos...which one do you think is best for my Vario...i dont want something big on my ears...which is why i looked at the HP ones
im considering on the basis of sound quality and the comfort when warn..
If my replacement motos have the same high end distortion then I'll return them. I'm keeping the HP's for sure unless the fidelity and volume of the replacements is much better.
It's a tough choice for sure. The motos have stellar integration with the Wizard and work pretty much flawlessly when switching from phone to stereo mode. They always pair right up too. Great bluetooth implementation.
fair enough mate...but if a phone call comes while your listening to music via the HP headphones will the voice go through the headphones....and do you have to hold the Vario close to ur head to speak...
or can you just use the phone normally....
because theirs no point in buying them if you gotta listen to the voice through the headphones and hold the phone near ur lips.....(thats like walkie talkies) lol
My problem exactly. You can hear the phone ringing through the headset but when you pick up it goes dead. I wonder if speakerphone works though. I'll check that in a few...
By comparison, the motos are awsome for this... they automatically pause the music when you pick up the phone then resume after you disconnect. The phone actually rings in the background while the music continues to play too so you can check the caller-id and keep listening if its not somebody you want to talk to.
I've got my fingers crossed that the problem with my first headset was actually a defect and that my next ones will be better. It'll be a few weeks before I can determine this though because it's 3 business days one way for UPS and I shipped out the old headset last Friday.
I just tested this: The HPs cut out completely when a phone call either comes in or is initiated from my 8125. Speakerphone mode merely sends the phonecall to my 8125's built in speakers.
hmmmmm thanks for the test mate...
I'd rather not buy the headphones then, considering the hands free are still good enough.... :idea:
£50 of mine can be spent elsewhere (driving lesson etc)
Hopefully someone may write a hack for that problem then...
Thank you guys for pointing out the HT820 headphones. I'm tempted top buy a pair, there's some good prices on ebay too. Well i was looking for other options and notices the Plantronics Pulsar 590A. I like the look of the motorola's more but the plantronics... well its plantronics. Anyone had experience with the both of them?
Hmmmm... guess I'll wait for more reports...
Nokia HS12w Rocks....with FM :lol:
I have the Moto HT820 and the jabra BT620. When I first put the Jabras on my head I was going to throw them in the trash until I figured out the sound was ampliifed in TCMP. I turned th esound down on my phone and headset and away we go. I like both but think the Motos may have a farther range. Next for me is the Nextlinks Spider when it comes out that one is going to be sick. BTW both work well with Windows Media Player.
hdubli said:
Nokia HS12w Rocks....with FM :lol:
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How's the range? Any background noise?
the best in my Opinion with an incredible sound is the logitech. I have the HT820(Headset,Headphone Combo), Sharper Image and the Logitech (Headphone Only)
The Logitech is the Best. Usually Headsets lack Bass and this Headsets is best in that area. It misses the Highs a little but that you can fix with little EQ'ing. The Headset fits nice and is not so bulky then HT820. The Smallest is the Sharper Image. But only 4h batt life.
So out of all these 3 i have i use the logitech the most because of the Sound.
Just wondering if anyone is using a non genuine headset with there O2 xda II mini? While I had my genuine ones that come with the unit the audio dropped to one ear only, I tried another (non O2) set of headphones which were actually better qaulity and working fine on my other phone but had the same result.
Anyway I sent the mini and non genuine headphones across the country to O2's service centre and have just recieved an email which states "As PHF is a non genuine O2 Accesory it is most likely incompatable with XDA II Mini. Therefore we quote to replace PHF. Thank you." :shock:
I find it extremely hard to believe that any 2.5mm headphone jacked headphones would not work in the mini so was just wondering if anyone else could conform either way
Cheers all,
marto
The answer is actually rather simple!
If you look at the original O2 XDA Mini headphones (and many other originals for phones with a 2.5mm jack) then you will notice that it is a 4 contact plug: that is, there is one point of contact at its tip and three points of contact along the plug (marked out by black rings). 4 contacts by the way = microphone, two audio channels and a ground.
Most replacement ones are only 3 contact, thus they are missing the inner black ring - which is usually the right audio channel (or left... not quite sure!). But if you really must get your 3 contact earphones/converter to work in the O2, you need to have the plug only partially in the socket... pull it out a bit while playing music and you should find the sweet spot! Though note that it probably wont stay in the plug, plus since 3 contact earphones lack a microphone then you'll have to remember to unplug your earphones before making a call.
Awesome response
Now why couldn't I get a straight answer like that from the O2 Call centre or the Service centre :evil:
Cheers again,
marto
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JWhile I had my genuine ones that come with the unit the audio dropped to one ear only, I tried another (non O2) set of headphones which were actually better qaulity and working fine on my other phone but had the same result.
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Had 2 sets of genuine O2 headsets now. Same thing's happened both times. I've lost the audio in the right earphone. I've checked my hima audio jack and the solder connections are fine. It's definitely the headset that's playing up. Even went so far as to cut the headphones off at the mic portion and solder new ones down but the same thing still happens. No sound on the right.
Anyone else experienced loss of audio in one earphone after a while and if so, how the hell did you fix it?
All I can say is lucky you not in Australia trying to get something done at O2's service centre here (mpsqld)...
When I sent the unit back for the second time and included the motorola headset I was trying to use this was there reply
As PHF is a non genuine O2 Accesory it is most likely incompatable with XDA II Mini.
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:evil: :evil: most likely?????? gee what a firm response
What a joke! ended up having to ring them (following no replies from several emails) asking if they actually physically tested the unit or just blamed in on the "non genuine" headset.
The motorola headset works fine (stereo sound) with my wife's motorola phone so told them to just sent it all back!
hey i just got my wife the jamin (i got a jam) and the headset from the jamin works on the jam if that helps.
infact i prefer the jamin headset cause its a bit more heavy duty.
I've bought a 2.5 mm to 3.5mm coverter (off ebay) and use ordinary headphones, music quality is much better then on the ones bundled with the phone.
Hi chaps,
Do you have any suggestion for a wired compact headset to take phone calls?
I got a bt but its not always on and when I get a call, I dont want everybody around me to hear the conversation but when i pop in a 3.5mm stereo headphone, the microphone stops working
I cant find a combo in-ear headphone microphone thingi with one 3.5mm jack or a mini usb headset... so any suggestions?
What about the original one in the package?
You can leave your device in the pocket and accept or quit phonecalls.
You can set the volume of the incoming call to lowest with the slider left to the navi-stick, then other people do not hear your calls if you are 2-3 meters away.
I'd like to know a wired headset which shows the caller-ID in the microphone case, like the old sony walkman with the display on the wire, showing actual song and volume. The 3.5 jack will not support this, i know.
yeah you can just leave any 3.5mm headphones pluggged in, as long as they are plugged in before the phone comes in you can use the inbuit microphone.
The device still rings, so you just put the buds in your ears and answer.
This is what I do with my senseinhers.
I'd like a decent replacement corded set, don't like the sound quality from BT ones I've tried.
Had a USB one from gpsforless that you can plug your own headphones in just past the mic, but it wasn't well built and lasted about 3 weeks.
I bought this one for use in the car while plugged into my AUX in on the car stereo.
http://cgi.ebay.com/FOR-CINGULAR-85...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
It works great with the Athena, there are a bunch of different types on ebay, just search for "Tytn Adapter" and you will find a bunch.
Pretty much any HTC Extended USB based adapter will work with the Athena.
Good Luck
G
thanks for the advice; i bought it second hand and didnt get the original one. does that one have a mike?
i use the original wired headset u1000,
but i get problem like yours,
i i can't send my voice through microphone headset,
my friend can't hear my voice wwhen made phone call,
that problem came after reflashed from original wm5 to wm6,
i tried 3 different wm6 but still in microphone headset problem,
have any ide ? thanks
imamlab said:
i use the original wired headset u1000,
but i get problem like yours,
i i can't send my voice through microphone headset,
my friend can't hear my voice wwhen made phone call,
that problem came after reflashed from original wm5 to wm6,
i tried 3 different wm6 but still in microphone headset problem,
have any ide ? thanks
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I don't have such a problem with the original wired headset. The sound is excellent in both WM5 and WM6.
My wired headphones died pretty quickly, so now I use a pair of sennseisher buds, the microphone on the athena works when using standard earbuds, so although not hands free, it is at least a bit more private.
I like this from PPC Techs.
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main.asp?unit=HTC_Advantage-895&area=accessories&item=PPCPADPT17
It gives you both 2.5mm and 3.5mm output so you can have your headphones in one plug and the headset in the other.
They have another adapter that goes from the USB for the same purpose but I don't have that one.
fards said:
My wired headphones died pretty quickly, so now I use a pair of sennseisher buds, the microphone on the athena works when using standard earbuds, so although not hands free, it is at least a bit more private.
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ouh.. interesting to ur post
yeah maybe that is the KEY,
i'am forget,
i have changed my original earbud with Senheiser mx500, same as you, died quickly, then again changed to original N6233 earbud, great sound for music
but maybe causing malfunction the microphone ?
thanks a lots, i will try to change my earbud,
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Hi, first of all, I did this thread here because I'm not quite asking about the accessories, but about a modification. But if any Moderator thinks this should be moved, please do so.
At any rate, the thing is, I'm still beaten up about the fact that the headphones bundled to the cellphone are such low quality. Ok, there are some superb phones that comes with crappy headset, but you can replace them with any other headphones you have. But this one doesn't support detaching them. That's low quality for me.
So, I went to search for detachable HTC headsets. To my wonder - or bad searching skills - I found none. All are just one-piece headset. Really?
Ok, maybe makes sense when we take into account the fact that for an odd reason, HTC headsets works different than the rest. Just incompatible with other phones.
And here is my question. Is it possible to mod this headphones? My idea is to just trim the original bundled and re-wire the plug to some kind of 4 bands 3,5 female plug, so I can connect non HTC heaphones with mic to this sort of adapter and that could operate the phone.
Or, maybe there's such adapter out there in the world? theory says I'm not the first one to think in this, but I've found nothing so far.
In resume:
a) Are there detachable HTC headsets out there?
b) Is it possible to make an adapter for non HTC headsets?
c) Does this adapter exits already and I'm just wasting time and not money?
bonus) Is there some sort of schematics about HTC headsets? I just can't guess why others are incompatible, but a different wiring...
Many thanks before hand!
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Really? no one? :/ I cant believe everyone is just satisfied using that lousy headset or just headphones with no mic.
why bother. Any set of decent cell phone headphones work great.
I got a pair of rocket fish headphones. It comes with a mic, and a voice dial/answer button that works great on the Aria.
edit: here is a newer version of what i have.
http://www.rocketfishproducts.com/products/mobile-phones-gps/RF-EB22.html
Don't use headphones here, I have bluetooth in my car .
But, I'd suggest buying skull candy headphones, or even the headphones that come with some nokia xpressmusic phones are awesome. (particularly 5800).
i use these skullcandies because i mainly listen to music on my phone they have a mic on them to so i kan use the on a call if i get one while i have them on
I found that if you download a music player with an equalizer built in, you can improve the quality of the sound 100%
Hey people. Thanks for all info, been reading about the defy here for some time. Got one now and I love it. I had a few smartphones before and this is by far the one I would stick to forever if I had to.
So, my question is: Are there any good head phones (in-ear plugs, with mic and maybe even music controlers) avaliable, and that I can be certain to be compatible with the Defy? Or could I just buy any that works fine with other Android or Motorola devices? Motorola is not sold in Sweden where I live, so it's not like I can check out any stores IRL here...
With my Xperia x20 mini, exacly what I described came along with the phone. Too bad that you just got these normal plugs with the defy. Cos there is just no way I would use those. As of now I stick to my old head phones but I'd love the mic function with my In-ear plugs.
Thanks for any help!
Ekholm
Ok, so I found this site:
thinkmotoroladefy.com/wiredheadsets.html
and it's all looking good, except for the part that they are a bit low-priced. I'm looking for high quality ones. I.e my current head phones was about 90 USD.
For information, iphone handsfree works fine
Thanks!
By chance, does anyone know if "Klipsch Image S4i" would work? they seams to be perfect! Volume, track fwd bwd and play...
I got one of these a few months ago, works fine with my HTC Desire. Not the best headphones in the world, but more than capable of handling a bus ride. You can unplug the headphones, clip on a small plastic hook and use it as an in-ear Bluetooth headset too. Two birds with one stone
I can get around 10 hours out of them between charges.
Thanks, it seams to be mono, right? Mono doesnt sound too thrilling...
If you use power amp you can set it up to use the controls on headphones to start and stop music, instead of calling the last number you called. It will work on the lock screen too.
This was the only way of getting it to work i found for the defy and i tried about 10 different headphones with in-line controls. Bluetooth stereo sets like the one above with controls seem to work fine for music however, ive got a sony bluetooth set and the controls worked right away on the standard media player.
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Really? i got philips iphone headset with remote and there is a constant background noise, probably caused by the remote. which headset are you using?
the one that came with my phone has no remote!
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i'm using now my new wesc bongo with handsfree, and they do work great!
Hi everybody I'm new,
Does anyone can confirm this pinout for Defy's jack 3.5mm?
1. Tip - Left audio
2. Ring - Right audio
3. Ring - Ground
4. Sleeve - Mic
or this used in most mobiles:
1. Tip - Left audio
2. Ring - Right audio
3. Ring - Mic
4. Sleeve - Ground
I use Razer Moray+™ they have no remote function so you have to answer the call on the phone. But you have a mic and the work good for musik and phone calls.
anyone got an update for this, still looking for ear buds with a mic.
Klipsch Pro Media set(based on the S4i but a bit better build for traveling etc).
Awesome set up with defy. The S5i rugged set is also great as they are moisture proof and very overbuilt.
Hulkanator said:
anyone got an update for this, still looking for ear buds with a mic.
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I use nokia's Bh214 . Works pretty well!
bether said:
Hi everybody I'm new,
Does anyone can confirm this pinout for Defy's jack 3.5mm?
1. Tip - Left audio
2. Ring - Right audio
3. Ring - Ground
4. Sleeve - Mic
or this used in most mobiles:
1. Tip - Left audio
2. Ring - Right audio
3. Ring - Mic
4. Sleeve - Ground
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Openend up the original Motorola Defy headset and found this:
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flickr.com/photos/kikus/5451992356/
(I can not post any outside links because I am a new user )
1. Tip - L
2. Ring - R
3. Ring - M-
4. Ring - M+
(measured with a multimeter - hope this helps)
Thx,
Yeah, exactly as you wrote.
I remade cheap handset with remote (from eg. www.ebay.com).
It works with any headphones
I used my original headset on a iphone before. So I assume that every headset that works on the iphone should also work on the defy.
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I wonder if Sony Ericsson's headsets work. These seem pretty good:
goo.gl/TquJQ
goo.gl/eQc9W
Would be good if they work.
BTW, I tried Samsung Galaxy SL's Stereo In ear handsfree and the sound quality was just awesome! Might get myself one of those!!
I've tried the iPhone standard headphones and sound works but Mic and controls don't. There is a pair of sennheiser mm50 Nokia. Which will work fine. Ordering one shortly.
Hi
I can confirm that at least not all iphone headset work the defy, even if the pinout is identical. I tried the Sennheiser MM70i and they don't work!
I soldered the mic of the standard Headset to the MM70 and now im happy,
but definitely nothing i can recommend
greetings
Killigrew said:
Hi
I can confirm that at least not all iphone headset work the defy, even if the pinout is identical. I tried the Sennheiser MM70i and they don't work!
I soldered the mic of the standard Headset to the MM70 and now im happy,
but definitely nothing i can recommend
greetings
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yes u are right
I have try headphones
wich have microphone
from an alcatel.
no sound
if I push deeper
into the phone
the plug then it
start to hear random
in both speakers
so the pin is longer
or shorter on moto
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