Hi all,
Does anyone know if there is a registry key to disable the built in device cpu scaling?
The reason I want to know is that I have been playing with Pocket Hack Master and noticed that there is an option under settings called "disable device built-in scaling".
I have discovered that this option has fixed my issue with incoming calls being really sluggish and my ringtones being really jittery. It seems that when a call comes in my device is running at around 100MHz and then has to struggle to ramp up the cpu frequency in order to handle the sudden demand for rendering the display, playing ringtones, etc etc. If I tick the "disable device built-in scaling" option the device always runs at full speed and when a call comes in everything works fast like it should with no ringtone jitter.
The thing is I don't really want to run PHM all the time as it is a bit heavy weight, so I was wondering if there was a registry setting to change this without running PHM?
I would much rather run Xcpuscalar as it is more lightweight, but I'm not sure if this simply overrides the built-in scaling or not. Can someone confirm this please?
Cheers,
Richard.
Unless I'm mistaken, the XScale technology is there in the hardware but needs software, like PHM or XCPUScalar, to enable it. So if you don't want CPU scaling just delete the software!
For what it's worth I use XCPUScalar to overclock my Universal but I have a slow clockspeed (208MHz) when the device is under low load. That seems to work well.
If you want a visible increase in performance without tinkering with the CPU, try searching here for the registry hacks that increase cache sizes, or install something like Tweaks2k2 to do it for you.
G
When I installed PHM the software told me that my cpu was running at around 100MHz before I did any kind of tests or under/over clocking. So I think WM5 must have a kind of PowerNow capability built into the software for the cpu scaling. PHM has that option simply to turn off the built in WM5 scaling and replace it with its own better (supposedly) scaling.
This would explain why my older XDA II running WM2003SE had no problems with ringtone playback until I upgraded to WM5. I think that WM5 has the cpu scaling built in.
I think the CPU scaling is built-in the hardware and not software. PHM can somehow disable it and it actually fixed my pda from hanging up when being turned on.
Problem is, PHM is a bit of a heavy weight application to have constantly running all the time just so that I can turn off hardware cpu scaling. Its a shame there is not some way of turning it off with a registry setting or small light weight application or service.
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Has any one got a link for a freeware program to do throtterling of the CPU as in not always running at 400Mhz? I've seen a few more complex ones that you have to pay for but they do all sorts of things? I am thinking of giving it a go and the whole point of Intel developing the XScale chip is because it's able to Scale down the speed (Hense the name) this saves a lot of battery life apparently...
Any ideas?
Downclock your processor will not take a lot saving your battery life (about 10%).
Use XCPUScalar for your Xscale cpu,it let you choose 100-200-300-400-472 Mhz mode.
Regards
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thanks for the reply unapproachable2kx I will take a look into that program... Great work...
Hear is a direct link for any one that would like to look it up as well
http://www.immiersoft.com/
does the program expire at all? has any one done any testing of just very basic PDA work as in address lookup, phone number lookup and that sorta stuff and seen how much extra battery like they can get out of there PDA?
Is there any programs that can automaticly scale the speed of the CPU acording to CPU load that is freeware? Will Microsoft be implamenting CPU scaling in the Second Edition of there 2003 OS? still can't belive that its not a built in feature if the CPU's where designed to scale acordingly...
Does no one else know of any others that can scale the CPU speed according to usage? ass well as the software being freeware?
The Xscaler prog is not free.
This is
http://elevatedstudios.com/pocket/
Thanks for the link xda-rocks, Have you had any trouble using this software on the XDA II, I see they give you a bit of babble about you may have to do hard resets and stuff like that.... Have you had any problems as yet... I have never used any CPU throterling software and am just wanting to play around with it a bit..
Do you notice a extended battery life if you use this software at all?
No probs so far, but haven't really had time to try it - only just installed myself.
Hi!
I was wondering on which speeds people have their Wizards running? I know there are a lot of people using OMAPclock so if you could enter your values into the poll it would be much appreciated. Also with this programm BAtti http://pda.jasnapaka.com/batti/ you can check the temperature of your battery! Wich temp. is acceptabel (is there any relation to the tmp of your processor?
My Wizard is running @ 264 Mhz and in rest, battery tmp. is 28.0c
195mhz
264 solid as a rock
technically....
the poll didn't let me pop my answer in (i run at 228 or 240, both of which are excluded).
i just overclocked to 240 using OMAPclock..
anyway to make sure it really is at 240 though? The system information app in WM5 still says it's 195.. although i think that's just a label.. not a actual clock measure..
You can use TCPMP with a given file to benchmark - just benchmark before and after overclocking
i like to run it on 240mhz but whats with the batt life?
I run at 228,
mine resets sometimes at 240
I got my MDA Vario just for a few weeks...it is a whole lot faster then my previous SonyEricsson P900, so for now I just run at at default speed
Before ROM update = 240mhz consistantly
After ROM update = standard 180mhz.
I run at 216, but it resets it's self at random times.
I've been running my Qtek 9100 at 204 MHz since Sunday with no ill effects. Battery life seems not to have been affected significantly. Still running the original ROM -- I might try an upgrade in a week or two after I've become more familiar with the unit.
264 24/7. no resets
overclocked to 240 with out rest or any problems
Because I use push-mail (so GPRS is on, all the time), and BT is also turned on 24/7, the battery drain is significant. I noticed a major increase in power consumption when I overclocked the CPU. Normally this CPU is smart enough to clock-down when not being used. When using the overclock program, this intelligence is switched off (or doesn't function anymore), resulting (in my specific situation), in a battery life of about 12 hours. When I run the CPU at default speed, it easily manages to live for 24-36 hours without craving for an outlet socket
264mhz on omap but it tells me 250mhz on tcpmpm.
(i'm posting this using my wizard, why is it putting two spaces?)
With the latest ROM I find the standard speed is adequately fast now, so I run mine at standard speed but increase to 240 when using skype to get rid of the choppy sound, reverting to standard when I close skype.
( I use a modified shortcut for Skype which automatically launches OmapClock and increases the speed when I start Skype and reverts to standard speed when I close skype).
pewe said:
( I use a modified shortcut for Skype which automatically launches OmapClock and increases the speed when I start Skype and reverts to standard speed when I close skype).
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How do did you create such a shortcut? I would like to overclock only when using TomTom.
I have got my Vario on 240 Mhz now. I have flashed it with the new Qtek rom (release 24 march 2006).
But even after installing memmaid, I can't keep it at 240 Mhz after waking up. It will be set back to 180 Mhz
I did make a new Event in Memmaid after waking up, but that doesn't work.
Or could it be because I did not register Memmaid yet?
1-2tje -
Extract the attached file to a new directory on your device called 'omap'.
In File explorer you should see the omapclock.lnk with a tomtom icon, and when you launch it it should start tomtom.
If not, then open the omapclock.lnk in 'Notes' and alter the location and/or name of the tomtom executeable.
To check the speeds, launch omapclock.exe before launching the shortcut and see what the speed is. Close omapclock.exe then launch the shortcut. While tomtom is running open omapclock.exe again and check the speed. Close tomtom and after 10 seconds check the speed again - it should be back to normal.
bdp -
For help with Omapclock see/use this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=40284&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Hi Guys,
Pretty impressed with this site, the dedication and commitment everyone here has.
Just thought to pick minds....
Which is better of the 2 clocking apps : OMAP (of which I could only find ver 0.2) or BatteryMeter , gives the best overall performance vis installation file size and continous use ?
Your thoughts please
AD10
I think they are the same thing, BatteryMeter provides the nice user friendlier interface that invoke OMAP (or you mean OmapClock?). For small size, OMAP is a command line simple tweak etc, but maybe difficult to set up, esp if you want it to be still around after suspending your phone. So, probably for start, try the Bmeter.
Don't you mean BatteryStatus instead of BatteryMeter?
Anyway, BatteryStatus, despite the name, has also overclocking features and has the advantage that the settings remains if you perform a reset. As far as I know, Omapclock does not.
hanmin said:
I think they are the same thing, BatteryMeter provides the nice user friendlier interface that invoke OMAP (or you mean OmapClock?). For small size, OMAP is a command line simple tweak etc, but maybe difficult to set up, esp if you want it to be still around after suspending your phone. So, probably for start, try the Bmeter.
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here's the helper
http://www.nicque.com/PQz/OmapClockPlus.htm
Thanks guys,
Yes I meant BatteryStatus and OMAPClock.
I have tried both, and stuck to BatteryStatus - offers more information and seems to be constantly supported by Kai.
OmapClock and batteryStatus read different clocks
I used OMAPCLOCK to set the clock to 208 MHZ, however batterystaus, even not using its overclock function reads it as 221 MHZ instead.
Which one to trust???
Tks
I used OMAP for a while, but I was able to overclock max 246, now I use batterystatus and I OC to 286 without any problem. (Also BS has many more features over OMAP)
Hi everyone,
I was not able to adjust CPU speed in System menu, because the is no such. I installed BatteryStatus and it detected 312MHz. Is there any way to check/adjust system performance?
oleg_ku said:
Hi everyone,
I was not able to adjust CPU speed in System menu, because the is no such. I installed BatteryStatus and it detected 312MHz. Is there any way to check/adjust system performance?
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Ah yes, you may be right. I installed Pocket Hack Master 4.00 and I noticed when I unplugged the power, the CPU speed dropped down to CPU 100Mhz, Bus 104, Mem 52, LCD 52
and when I plugged in the power adaptor the speed became
CPU: 624Mhz, Bus 208Mhz, Mem 104Mhz, LCD 104Mhz
It seems that Athena has already Scaling feature bulit-in. Awesome! but with PHM you can go into advance and then tick checkbox: Disable Device Built-In Scaling. And You would be running Athena always at full speed non-stop!! woohoo!!
And watch the battery last 2 minutes Boohoo.
There was a reason it autoscales! But yes, it kinda sucks that they say its great because of this 620mghz cpu, then run it at 100mghz half the time.
This is very interesting information. I see the wait icon quite often and wondered if the device was running at full speed! I think I'll get PHM!
-Krip
Assuming you're talking about PHM Registry Editor:
Which registry key is this?
jlingo said:
I installed Pocket Hack Master 4.00 and I noticed when I unplugged the power, the CPU speed dropped down to CPU 100Mhz, Bus 104, Mem 52, LCD 52
and when I plugged in the power adaptor the speed became
CPU: 624Mhz, Bus 208Mhz, Mem 104Mhz, LCD 104Mhz
It seems that Athena has already Scaling feature bulit-in. Awesome! but with PHM you can go into advance and then tick checkbox: Disable Device Built-In Scaling. And You would be running Athena always at full speed non-stop!! woohoo!!
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Well, Thanks a lot. I installed it and apprently it helps. Cause I use Navi software and always connect the device to a charger - so there is no worry about standby time.
Again - Thanks!!!
Moskus said:
Assuming you're talking about PHM Registry Editor:
Which registry key is this?
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No they're talking about Pocket Hack Master 4.00. You can find it here:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Tweaks/Pocket-Hack-Master-2006-5051.shtml
Hope this helps,
Fin
It keeps locking up my machine when I load it.
Worked long enough to test one speed setting (the normal high one), then every time I start it up it locks up.
Glad it's a trial. Seems to lock up on the nag screen, so the developers will get an email saying "Um. This locks up when it nags me to buy it, so I won't".
RichardKAthena said:
It keeps locking up my machine when I load it.
Worked long enough to test one speed setting (the normal high one), then every time I start it up it locks up.
Glad it's a trial. Seems to lock up on the nag screen, so the developers will get an email saying "Um. This locks up when it nags me to buy it, so I won't".
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You'll need to go into settings, then advanced and check off the box to disable built-in auto scaling. Two auto scalers working at the same time would definately give you grief.
mysticbluebmw said:
You'll need to go into settings, then advanced and check off the box to disable built-in auto scaling. Two auto scalers working at the same time would definately give you grief.
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do you know how to disable the tray icon that PHM puts? it's wasting one row of my screen's space....
findus said:
No they're talking about Pocket Hack Master 4.00. You can find it here:
http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/Tweaks/Pocket-Hack-Master-2006-5051.shtml
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Ah! Thank you for the information.
wu5262 said:
do you know how to disable the tray icon that PHM puts? it's wasting one row of my screen's space....
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Sorry, I really don't know, but it does allow you to change CPU speed on fly (after you've set your favorite speeds), which makes a pretty useful tray icon. Though I hate to waste screen real estate, too! If I find out a way, I'll post it here.
mysticbluebmw said:
Sorry, I really don't know, but it does allow you to change CPU speed on fly (after you've set your favorite speeds), which makes a pretty useful tray icon. Though I hate to waste screen real estate, too! If I find out a way, I'll post it here.
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here is the solution, just install this and it will be fine
Ahhhh, very useful. Thanks.
What speed settings are you guys running your Athena using PHM?
great tool - how about overclocking? lol
i read of guys running the pxa270 @667mhz...
Hi everybody,
are there any experiences with Charmer and overclocking? I'd like to speed up my PDA, especially when using CPU-intensive programs such as iGo/TomTom (GPS navigation). Before installing a bunch of probably useless utilities, I just want to check whether anybody is overclocking his device.
Which programs do you use (e.g. omapscaler) and are does this lead to any noticeable changes?
Using batterystatus here which includes OMAP and CPUScaler.
I have to say i am finding some difficiulties linked to the fact that the screen often misalign and the overclocking seems to be having problem with spb backup (it makes the device freeze).
The setting i have are
Min 143Mhz
Org. 195Mhz
Max 247Mhz
I am also using the "Add short time boost" functionality at 273Mhz.
For CPU% thresold i stick with teh program default values.
Apart from this the speed is great and allow me to run a bunch of Touch application designed for more powerful/recent telephones wihtout much problems.
P.S. tomtom doesn't need overclocking, it is not a CPUI intensive application adnd runs great with factory clocking.
Thanks, I'll give batterystatus a try.
CPUScaler
CPUScaler, the best I ever used.
regards
Batterystatus is currently the best overclocking program for OMAP processors. You can easily overclock it to 273, some models can take even 286 and 299.