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I use a no brand Stereo BT headset on the Atom and found the quality is unacceptable poor. I just want to confirm if it's just me or it's a common problem for Atom.
I found the BT stereo quality very poor too. Tried
1. i-Tech S35
2. Gobalsat BT-830 (apart from stop/pause, AVRCP works fine with WM 10)
3. Nokia HS-12W (apart from stop/pause, AVRCP works fine with WM 10)
quality is way worser compared with the original headphone that came with Atom. I read somewhere this was due to the poor audio chipset used in Atom. Any way to fix that?
BTW, all the above 3 Bluetooth stereo headsets have excellent audio output when listening music from PC (using Widcomm 4.0.1.2800).
I believe it was due to the BT version used. I too tried
1. i-Tech R35 (V1.2)
2. Nokia HS-12W (V2.0)
When pairing both of them with Atom, the sound quality is not that good (always got hissing sound). The same applies when I use the i-Tech headset with my 818pro.
On the other hand, when I use the Nokia headset with 818pro (A2DP enabled), the quality becomes quite good (no significant difference from wired headsets). BTW, I think the Moto BT headset supports V2.0 too, and seems ppl around got some good experience with it and 818pro.
As I mainly use my Atom nowadays (my 818pro got the screen misalignment problem unfortunately), I already forgot about BT headsets.
From all you guys comments, I am not alone in having poor A2DP quality. It's a shame for giving out A2DP but unacceptable quality. :evil:
I-tech S35
Thanks so much for that information. I was really tempted to "upgrade" to an Atom from my Mini because the former had the built in bluetooth so it's a good thing to know I shouldn't upgrade because I was really after the A2DP functionality (since I thought the full release a2dp would be much better than the mini's "hacked" a2dp).
Maybe the stack used on the Atom is not that good. Have you tried upgrading the ROM?
[email protected]
what are u guys sayin ?
the quality of A2DP in my Atom (last ROM upgrade) is excellent !
and i do know how to appreciate the quality, cause i came from a V3x (quality was amazing too).
i am using the motorola HT-820.
the sound is much better than my crappy ipod video (to sell if someone interested) :arrow:
to fix ur problems, u should :
1- upgrade to the latest rom.
2- turn the crappy equalizer off (its a really useless feature)
3- when u go to bluetooth settings, hold ur bluetooth device and '' set as wireless stereo''
that may be the key for clearer sound.
also i didnt like the equalizer (am i alone ?) i found that the speakers are worse than ever.
what do u guys think? :arrow:
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goldsaint said:
what are u guys sayin ?
the quality of A2DP in my Atom (last ROM upgrade) is excellent !
and i do know how to appreciate the quality, cause i came from a V3x (quality was amazing too).
i am using the motorola HT-820.
the sound is much better than my crappy ipod video (to sell if someone interested) :arrow:
to fix ur problems, u should :
1- upgrade to the latest rom.
2- turn the crappy equalizer off (its a really useless feature)
3- when u go to bluetooth settings, hold ur bluetooth device and '' set as wireless stereo''
that may be the key for clearer sound.
also i didnt like the equalizer (am i alone ?) i found that the speakers are worse than ever.
what do u guys think? :arrow:
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How's it compared with the using the original headset came with your Atom? For me, bluetooth A2DP is way worse.
I used the same i-Tech clip S35 on XDA 2i, and the A2DP qualitiy is as good as the wired headset came with XDA 2i.
Thanks.
Wired vs Wireless
ok, with the regular wired stereo headset the sound is Ok, but not that good if i compare to my ipod video.
i highly prefer the a2dp system as it seems ur inside a nightclub while using it.
but if i have to choose between the wired headsets or the HT820, i would rather go with the BT headset.
the only thing, is that dangerous for life ? (like getting brain cancer etc... wish not..)
As I mentioned before, I have tested all the combinations for 818pro, Atom (both with latest rom) and two BT headsets i-Tech R35 and Nokia HS-12W, and only found that the BT 2.0 combination, ie, 818pro with HS-12W, produces good enough music quality. For all other combinations, there is always some pretty obvious hizzing sound around when playing a soung. That hizzing sound is not background sound, as it won't appear if I stop playing any song. It only appears when a certain part of a song is played.
It seems to me that the hizzing sound is caused by insufficient bandwidth or over-compression of the data transmission (or both?). This also matches with my test result.
If I am using the 818pro (it is pending for repair), I will surely bring the HS-12W around. Otherwise, I will just stick with my wired adapter + Sony headset.
possible sol guys.
what is that ?
'' MSFP AKU 2.0 ''
it looks like a guy in another forum did an upgrade with this and got a superior sound etc...?
??? :arrow:
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goldsaint said:
what is that ?
'' MSFP AKU 2.0 ''
it looks like a guy in another forum did an upgrade with this and got a superior sound etc...?
??? :arrow:
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AKU 2.0 comes with support for A2DP.
In the case for XDA Atom, A2DP was supported on the day O2 released Atom.
A2DP quality in Atom was poor regardless of the Rom version, I tried the following roms:
1. 20060123B1WWE
2. Xda-Atom-ENG-20060123_Feb2006_.exe
3. R060221N_MN1ARC_RS00045
4. DSUU_ARC_C060414WWE_R060327N_EX0016__test_only_not_for_sale
5. Xda-Atom-ENG-20060426B1WWE
As described by buruburu, hizzing sound appears when a certain part of a song is played. Turning On/Off the equalizer doesn't seem to have any effect.
When listening the same song using wired headset, the quality was good, so can't be the problem of the song I am listening.
When listening the same Song using my PC (BT 1.2 with Widcomm 4.0.1.2800 stack), the quality was good as well.
So, no problem with the song I am listening, no problem with the BT Stereo headset I am using, no problem with the BT version (1.2 in Atom, 1.2 in PC; don't have BT 2.0, so can't tell) I am using, and my BT headset works fine making/receiving phone calls.
Conclusion:
1. the BT stack in Atom has a problem;
2. the audio chipset in Atom was a cheap and lousy one;
3. my Atom has a problem (I am in UK, don't have another Atom to test)
If it's (1), hope someone can fix it!!![/i]
tcmp
forgot to tell u guys : i get good quality cause i dont use crappy windows media player to play my mp3s, i use TCMP for every file i have.
and it works a charm.
the only thing i dont get, is that sometimes during the song play, it stops for a second then go back to it.
wierd :shock:
Re: tcmp
goldsaint said:
forgot to tell u guys : i get good quality cause i dont use crappy windows media player to play my mp3s, i use TCMP for every file i have.
and it works a charm.
the only thing i dont get, is that sometimes during the song play, it stops for a second then go back to it.
wierd :shock:
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Aha! Finally found this topic. I'm on O² Atom + Jabra BT620s. The headset sound quality is superb stable on pc (5mb limit Bluesoil). On Atom... WM10 sounds too low even volume maxed, the equalizer doesn't work on A2DP. The best is on TCPMP where I can blast the pre-amp to make it louder. The quality is "ok²", hisses are seldom but hiccups exists once or twice in wma/mp3 tracks and too bad headset playback function only work on WM10 not TCPMP. And to click my headset when answering calls, I've to set TCPMP not to play on background, after clicking, I've to increase the headset volume.
Does any of you guys who's using other than Atom experience hiccups on A2DP? And those with Atom other than goldsaint? I don't think it's Jabra's but Atom fault itself. I've only SmallMenuPlus and O²Plus running in background (all startup removed), no battery/space monitors on today and overclocked to constant stable 520Mhz with XCPUScalar on the latest firmware. Thank you...
Am using I-Tech Clip S with my ATOM and sound quality is EXcellent!!! No hissing sound at all.
I highly recommend taking a look at the following,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54621
I had the same complaint, but these registry edits cleared up my quality problems almost entirely.
Tweaked the bitpool settings to 53 but did not recognize any improvement. The other 2 tweaks is useless for me-- whenever i used my I-Tech Clip S BT headset/wireless stereo, can't hear the other callers voice. Streaming audio to my Clip-S is OK but no noticeable difference.
Cheers
I've tried my two bluetooth stereo headset on HP-2210 , DOPOD 818Pro and O2 Atom,one thing is certain,the sound qulilaty in O2 Atom is worst and poor.I consider the problem is ROM Firmware.
Some of the tweaks cause more harm than good
I removed all traces of these tweaks by doing a hard-reset, and my bt stereo is just fine with the occassional break. 8)
IMHO we should not just apply every tweak just because someone posted :twisted: EG some one claims he installed Atom Exec ROM on regular Atom Now he has vamoosed when asked to share. Some one posted a 4-letter word due to the mess he had when he followed that line :twisted:
Not to go against the current trend, but I entered the following into the reg editor and it made a huge improved in the sound quality using the Samsung SBH-100 headphones.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2DP\Settings]
"BitPool"=dword:00000053
"SampleRate"=dword:00044100
Still get the occasional skip but fingers crossed something will come up to fix this soon.
Hi All,
I have a o2 xDA Mini S aka Wizard/QTec 9100, etc...
I've been lurking about this forum for some months now, and the other day I decided after reading good news of the Motorola HT820 headset that this would work correctly if I used the A2DP .cab file supplied in these forums.
Well, I did that and it works as intended but I seem to get a background crackling noise which gets worse the louder the music is.
I can seem to reduce it, but it never quite goes away... I've noticed a few odd messages on this forum with other users with this problem but cant determine if its something when the HT820 is paired with a 'Wizard' or not.
I've tried about 5 different PocketPC audio music players and cant seem to determine if its the phone, the bluetooth in some way or the headset itself... However, when I plug the headset into an audio jack it sounds PERFECT.
I suspect it may be the bluetooth bandwidth in some way as the headphones work fine when used as normal headphones...
After 3 days of messing with it, I've come here to hopefully get some help, determine where the problem is and hopefully help with a fix.
My ROM is the original 2.21.4.1 WWE that originally came with the phone about 4 months ago. Is anyone else getting this problem, knows a fix or has any info as to what it ould be? If we all work together, maybe we can figure this out...
Thanks all.
Plonka2000
Hi Again,
I've been experimenting some more the last day and I cant quite seem to figure any more leads on what the problem could be related to.
Does anyone else experience this issue?
Thanks all.
Plonka2000.
I have experienced the same thing, especially with songs that are bass intensive. I have not found a solution.
I have experienced the same thing, especially with songs that are bass intensive. I have not found a solution.
Same here unfortunately
I've been experimenting a lot too, but presently still have a £40 set of headphones that sound worse than the ropey ones originally bundled with the Mini-S :evil:
Its at least good to know that other people are having the same issue.
Are you both using the Motorola HT820 as well?
Have you tried pairing it with another device to test the quality of the sound from another source.
I tried with my PC but my USB bluetooth adaptor is only BT1.0 compatible. Pairs but doesnt do anything...
What ROM versions are you guys using?
I'm still on my original 2.21.4.1 WWE that came originally with it.
Yeah - same headphones, same ROM (which I think is the latest one in any case).
I also have an XDAIIi which I wiped clean and use purely as an in-car GPS ATM. As soon as I get a chance (unfortunately rugby and beer eats up most of my spare time :? ) I'll see what I can find re an A2DP hack for the IIi and try the headphones on that.
Will post here with results (probably Monday)
I appear to be having problems ever since i changed to wm6 for Trinity. My itech blueband bluetooth stereo headset is often losing sound when playing music. any way to solve this?
EDIT: solution page 4!
more details plz: rom version, radio version etc...
delivery1979 said:
more details plz: rom version, radio version etc...
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theese registry keys can be the sotution!!
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand]
"LaunchAPEnable"=dword:00000000
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\VoiceCommand]
"VoiceCmdDuration"=dword:99999
or use this cab, its the same!!
rom is the latest official wm6. how i check radio? oh cool, i'll try out that cab dude, and post here the results
not working bro. shudnt my pda restart after installing that cab? i installed in main memory, and i'm now using my headphones. still got the problem. your registry tweaked the voice commander, my problem is with the bluetooth. 0_o
as in, i listen to music using my bluetooth headset, i hear
EXAMPLE: BONJOVI'S ITS MY LIFE
Its my ..(no sound suddenly).........Now and never, i aint gonna live forever!
the sound is lost but the music is still playing
Getting the same problem with iTech R35 bluetooth stereo headphones and offical Dopod WM6 upgrade (ROM 3.00.707.17 / Radio 1.46.00.11).
The headphones were working fine for the last 6 months with decent sound quality after pairing. Ever since I upgraded to WM6, either the headphones or the phone are dropping the BT connection after random intervals of between 5 minutes - 30 minutes. i.e. the sound suddenly cuts off even though the PDA is still playing music and everything seems to still be connected ( the BT icon is still displayed in the taskbar). If I re-pair again, it comes back for a short while, but then always cuts off again
This is the exact same problem I have with my R35 and WM6. I have figured out a way to make it cut out on a song (a different format wma). if i just play mp3s it will start to skip and then cut out completely after a random time. So I think its WMP I tried different radios and it still doesn't work....
help us anyone!
I posted a thread but no one was able to help...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320809
I don't think it's a WMP problem,since I generally don't use that app. It's dropping for me with Resco Pocket Radio and CorePlayer.
Getting fed up with Dopod firmware. First, it was the 'no-bass' problem with the previous ROM. Now, it's this problem...! Can't they just release firmware without MAJOR bugs in it?!
I don't want to suggest this but do you think it has something to do with the itech clips?
when i use my BT stereo headset (plantronics pulsar 260) the music stopped sometimes, like described above.
when i disconnect my headset, the music plays normally over the phone speaker. no problem at all.
i guess its just another bluetooth problem.
when my phone is in my right pocket, and the receiver of my BT-set is in my left pocket, my body is between them, it gives the same problem( i am on my ATB at the time, moving)
very strange.....and no, i dont have any metal in my body. ;-)
Hi,
I'm using Touch 1.2 U-Clip and I have the exact same problem. So it's not just with i-Tech. I hope someone will find a solution for this problem.
Think its the Bluetooth stack
I am having the exact same frustrating problem - after checking to see if it was a Dopod error (tried closing down everything else on the PPC, tried other wired headsets), I have come to the conclusion it is something in WM6 Bluetooth, as I did not have this problem in the previous WM5 on the same machine with the smae Blueant Stereo headphones - mind you with WM6, I have full function with the Media Player, that is I can pause, next track, etc, whereas I couldnt do this with the WM5 version. WM5 had a really annoying high pitched whine, otherwise worked a treat.
So, in short WM6 has fixed the whine, has brought full features to the headset, but skips (blanks) the songs. Just before each "blank" I have noticed that it sounds like the song slows up - much like an old tape player running our of battery.
Now, I have no idea how/where/who to fix this, so anybody with even half a clue, please let all of us know, this is getting quite maddening!
mlk said:
I am having the exact same frustrating problem - after checking to see if it was a Dopod error (tried closing down everything else on the PPC, tried other wired headsets), I have come to the conclusion it is something in WM6 Bluetooth, as I did not have this problem in the previous WM5 on the same machine with the smae Blueant Stereo headphones - mind you with WM6, I have full function with the Media Player, that is I can pause, next track, etc, whereas I couldnt do this with the WM5 version. WM5 had a really annoying high pitched whine, otherwise worked a treat.
So, in short WM6 has fixed the whine, has brought full features to the headset, but skips (blanks) the songs. Just before each "blank" I have noticed that it sounds like the song slows up - much like an old tape player running our of battery.
Now, I have no idea how/where/who to fix this, so anybody with even half a clue, please let all of us know, this is getting quite maddening!
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bump for the thread. and yea man, i have the same prob. its like a battery dead sound, as the song goes out of tune etc
a slightly different problem
i use the INDIGO LITE rom, and i use OMIZ 5110 stereo headset, and i dont have the skiping problems described here, however since upgrading to WM6 the sound quality is terrible, i feel like tori amos is singing in my bathroom (which if was true could be really great) but alas, its just crappy sound quality... i tried changing the registry BITPOOL to 58 and played with all the values there known to man (at least to THIS man) but nothing helps...
Going by the devices that have this 'dropping sound' problem, it seems to only be affecting A2DP stereo bluetooth headsets paired with WM6 Trinity devices. Or are regular bluetooth mono headsets affected as well?
Personally havent paired a mono headset, but the problem I am having is definitely a stereo one! Any solution as opposed to taking to the machine with an axe?
Anyone found a solution yet?????? Please!!!!
I am also having the same sound dropping problems.
I have the same problem as well. I have just upgraded my rom to official WM6 rom. I'm using iTech Clip Radio.
Can anyone please point me towards a software equaliser that will work on the Touch (Elf) using bluetooth headphones
Many thanks
I dnt think there is a equalizer of tht sort, once i used TCPMP which has a equalizer. try it out.
thanks I will give it a go and report back
There is a eq for HTC Touch.
Its called ' Audio Booster ' made by htc and it is present in the ONYX 4.6 ultimate ROM but it only works for headphones, not speakers.
Thanks.
Thanks for that info Jeremy89632, that sounds a better bet as TCPMP looks a bit problematic and now unsupported.
However as your option means a ROM upgrade I am a little wary as I have never done anything like that. Can you, or anyone else, give me an idiots guide to updating my ROM please.
Audio booster is available by default in Touch..but it works only when a handsfree is connected to the phone..it doesnt work wit BT handsfree. giv it a try.
In regards to rom flashing, read the wiki or jump to elf upgrading section and do a study.
[email protected], I cannot find any equalizer on my touch either with or without BT, so I guess it is only available after the ROM upgrade. I will have a look at the wiki and see if I feel confident to have aa go
Audio poster is present in recent roms and it only work when the device is paired to BT headset or a carkit
there was an old prog called SRS WOW that work on device directly but it has limited functions
leswaller said:
[email protected], I cannot find any equalizer on my touch either with or without BT, so I guess it is only available after the ROM upgrade. I will have a look at the wiki and see if I feel confident to have aa go
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I own a Elfin and I do have the audio booster when I bought it. And this doesnt work when using a BT Handsfree. Works only with a wired handsfree.
AFA SRS WOW, it workd gr8 for my music in Elfin, but somehw or othr it played havoc on my in-call volume and ringin volume. So removed it.
music normally cannot be olayed on bluetooth you need a cab called BTaudio
Well, you can upgrade your ROM to the stock ROM if you worry, and if im not wrong, the stock rom contains audio booster.
Hi,
Previously I was running my HD2 on the official WWE rom 1.66 from HTC.
I'm an avid music listener so I had and aux cable fitted into my car stereo
so I could listen to my playlist from my HD2 through my car's stereo.
As I've found out I could actually answer calls and talk through the system itself. Which was kind of cool since I figured I'd already saved big bucks on some car handsfree tool. But then again the 3.5mm jack has no mic input in it. So i figured it was using the phone's built in mic instead for receiving audio and the car's stereo for transmitting audio.
Currently I'm running on Dutty's Leo HG V1 WWE rom with 2.08.50.08_2 radio
which is sweet since it's very stable, fast, and close to stock as i'd like it (kudos to dutty). But I found out since then, I couldn't use my car's stereo as a handsfree anymore since i can only listen to music and not making calls with it, where i could only hear the person on the other side but they cant hear s**t what i'm trying to say.
can anybody help me on this?
thanks and really appreciate it.
(sorry for the long essay i'd like to make it as detail and understandable as possible )
Most likely a ROM issue, all those I've used work fine in that respect. I'd try a couple other radio ROMs first, if it doesn't do it then change ROM altogether.
hi,
i go with kilrah, seems to be a rom thing. the only way to get around this problem without changing the rom is maybe to use a cable that offers a build in microphone. i get one at ebay some time ago, it stick between your hd2 and the headset/carcable, and works quiet well. here is a link to ebay . as i said bevore its more a workaround then a solution. i use this thing to leave my hd2 in the pocket and use my own headphones that dont have a microphone.
regards mad
thanks bros.
figured it might be the rom anyways
thanx guys for these thread
cause i have the same problem with energy rom
so, would anyone used a rom where the headset were work perfectly??????????