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New Wizard?

I heard there was a new wizard model coming out with built in GPRS receiver, anyone know if this is true?

I'm going beat everyone to the punch and save you massive scorn....the current Wizard has GPRS already in it! GPRS stands for General Packet Radio Service, and is one of the ways Wizard (and many other phones) receives data.
Might you be referring to GPS (Global Positioning System)??? Wouldn't make sense for HTC to release an upgrade to Wizard with GPS as they release brand new models all the time (every few months it seems like). More than likely there is a phone out there that resembles the Wizard with the nifty slide out keyboard that also has GPS among other improved specs. Check out the wiki for other HTC phones (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/)

Oh, you're going to PAY for denying a beating...

lol, I meant the service that allows map software like tom tom to work (I guess this must be GPS then and not GPRS!!), because with the current wizard you need an additional bluetooth receiver right?

wellmoon said:
lol, I meant the service that allows map software like tom tom to work (I guess this must be GPS then and not GPRS!!), because with the current wizard you need an additional bluetooth receiver right?
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Yes, that is correct in order to use mapping software such as TomTom you will need a bluetooth GPS reciever.

thanks, man I feel like a doofus!

wellmoon said:
thanks, man I feel like a doofus!
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Don't worry I am sure we all had to learn somehow.

activate GPS Panel in WM5
wellmoon said:
lol, I meant the service that allows map software like tom tom to work (I guess this must be GPS then and not GPRS!!), because with the current wizard you need an additional bluetooth receiver right?
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If you get a BT receiver (I isuggest the Holux GPSlim 236) you'll also need to activate the GPS panel in your wizard.
Here's a link with a nice tutorial. Courtesy of pockepc-Live, which I ran across on Molski's website (www.molski.biz) Thanks!!
http://www.pocketpc-live.com/setup-gps-on-your-pocket-pc-2.html

Thanks for the info guys

HTC Tytn/ Cingular 8525 & blueooth GPS

I had a question regarding this devices bluetooth GPS capablities.
Is there any necessary software to install on the device to use it as a GPS screen?
My intentions are to buy a bluetooth GPS receiver and link it to the phone. There is no way on earth i would pay cingular 9.99 a month for GPS that is already provided free by the government.
Has anyone had any luck linking a generic bluetooth gps receiver with the device? And if someone could please direct me to the GPS software for the device if there is such a thing.

I use a Garmin GPS10. it comes with the GPS software. it runs about $120. works well but most people seem to perfer TomTom.
eith way ypu pay a flat fee for the software and GPS receiver.

I bought a GPS receiver QSTARZ Q818 and it's working perfectly on my 8525 using Google Maps !!! and except for the receiver ($75) everything else is free !!! .. easy to set up and to use. But there is no voice ...

herve64 said:
I bought a GPS receiver QSTARZ Q818 and it's working perfectly on my 8525 using Google Maps !!! and except for the receiver ($75) everything else is free !!! .. easy to set up and to use. But there is no voice ...
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Bought a bt359 gps receiver for $99 from cingular and use live search (free) from microsoft. Has live traffic indicators and maps works great.
john

Voice?
Well I took the sucker punch and got the Tomtom...
Does anyone know where i would be able to download USA maps for the device?

I bought it - and took it back promptly... the GPS they sell only puts out Siirf protocol and not the NMEA. This caused only specific apps to work for me. Perhaps something was screwy on my phone but I could not get ViaVIsualEarth and GoogleMaps to function - but did not try Live Search.

I use the QSTARZ Q818 and it's working like a charm !!
feareddevil said:
I bought it - and took it back promptly... the GPS they sell only puts out Siirf protocol and not the NMEA. This caused only specific apps to work for me. Perhaps something was screwy on my phone but I could not get ViaVIsualEarth and GoogleMaps to function - but did not try Live Search.
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GPS

is xperia GPS-a or GPS built-in ?
thanks
Lamberto

GPS
And the locking is extremely fast

X1 has a built in A-GPS.
I'm not sure why that's important if it's the one or the other...

The X1 has both; GPS and a-GPS
GPS is the normal GPS using signals from satellites. A-GPS uses the telephone pole signals to locate your position. GPS is more accurate than a-GPS but a-GPS is faster.

Update the satellite information using the included QuickGPS application and the locking is even faster. Mere seconds to get a lock.

TKCable said:
The X1 has both; GPS and a-GPS
GPS is the normal GPS using signals from satellites. A-GPS uses the telephone pole signals to locate your position. GPS is more accurate than a-GPS but a-GPS is faster.
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Not entirely true!
"Assisted GPS, generally abbreviated as A-GPS, enhances the startup performance of a GPS satellite-based positioning system." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-GPS
There are several a-GPS solutions, but those used in pocket pc-s use the GSM or UMTS network to download the almanac data from an assistance server, thus reducing the fix time for the GPS receiver.
So let's be clear: GPS and a-GPS are NOT two different receivers, therefore a-GPS is not less accurate. a-GPS is an enhancement of GPS, and it is commonly used in all pocket pc phones or smart phones equipped with a GPS receiver.
The GSM cell based positining, what you are talking about is used mainly by Google maps, and can be applied on any smart phone without the need of a GPS receiver. The accuracy is very low. This positioning method does not have anything to do with GPS satellite based positioning system.

Anyway it's funny how every post about gps people always argue that agps is internal simple gps but can also be assisted by network.All say the same thing basically but with different words
anyway im soooo happy with the gps of X1
Is the best ive ever seen. and i had n95 8gb tytnII and diamond.

Hardware
Does anybody know the actual hardware used for the gps receiver i.e. SiRF III or something along them lines.
Cheers

scotjen1 said:
Does anybody know the actual hardware used for the gps receiver i.e. SiRF III or something along them lines.
Cheers
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qualcomm GPS one is what it uses.
http://www.qctconnect.com/products/msm_7201.html

Excellent cheers for that..

G-Sensor

Hello,
i am a little bit convused about the G-sensor on Jade
i have read on many previews on german websites that the jade have this sensor but i can't get it to work
In the registry i found a lot of keys if i change these noting happens.
Is there this sensor in jade if yes how i can get this to work?
i hope somebody understand my bad english *sorry*
siamkater

The Touch 3G does _not_ have a G sensor.

its the same with gps. I've read in several sites that it had gps. Its wrong. only agps.

Zeganso said:
its the same with gps. I've read in several sites that it had gps. Its wrong. only agps.
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AGPS includes GPS ;-)

Zeganso said:
its the same with gps. I've read in several sites that it had gps. Its wrong. only agps.
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AGPS means Assisted GPS and enhances the startup performance of a GPS. This feature goes only with GPS and Jade has both of them.

R u telling me that this phone has a gps in the same way that the touch cruise has a gps?

Yes, it has its own gps just like the Cruise.

Do you have a jade? I ask this because i cant find ANY gps software in the htc. I have igo installed and it only recognizes the bluetooth gps i use.
Another thing, some websites state GPS and agps while others only mention agps.
EDIT: which specs does the gps have? Is it sirf III? Why can't i find any specs regarding any gps, other than agps?

I have a Jade, and yes it has GPS, TT7 installed, working fine, I tweaked the phone a little and disabled aGPS, using com4 9600.
Hope this helps.

Unbelievable! For a week now i've had this phone and i have not found anything about gps. I'm using an external antenna.
Can anyone tell me the specs of the gps?

I am not sure if it is needed, but I used QuickGPS to set the hardwareport for programs on comport4.
After that I installed TT7 and placed the receiver on "Other NMEA GPS receiver, 9600b.
Working nicely, even inside although ofcourse better working outside.
What I do know that at the first time with every TT version, you have to wait a minute or so before its starting to pickup signals.

Why don't you just have a look at the official HTC specs ?
http://www.htc.com/sea/product.aspx?id=71380
or
http://www.htc.com/europe/product/touch3g/specification.html

Yes, i saw the specs on the site, but not on the phone! How do i turn it on or off? is it always on? where in the user manual do they talk about the freakin gps?!
another win for the windows mobile.

Zeganso said:
Yes, i saw the specs on the site, but not on the phone! How do i turn it on or off? is it always on? where in the user manual do they talk about the freakin gps?!
another win for the windows mobile.
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Gotta agree here. My brother got an Omnia i900 an he had a hard time figuring out how to use the GPS, too.
But I guess someone here will explain it to you. I don't own the Jade yet.

The GPS is activated only if a (navigation) software is active and configured to use the GPS, if no such soft is started the gps is not used. If you have a navigation software active/started and the gps has not the right settings like wrong com port, then the GPS is not used, so it's OFF.

oK, I'll test it today.
Yesterday i read the user manual and the only reference was to the Quick GPS app.
No where else is mentioned the gps capabilities of this phone.
How do i know its not using agps and not standard gps?

Quick GPS is only for faster positioning (download information of satellites by GPRS, WiFi or ActiveSync). Helping program only. You need of some GPS program in order to run GPS. In this program you need first to configure port and speed. Especially in Jade these settings are com-4 and speed-57600 (IGO). But in some other programs may be is different.

Kudos to you guys!
Gps is alive. Tested on both igo and tom tom.

Mykab said:
I have a Jade, and yes it has GPS, TT7 installed, working fine, I tweaked the phone a little and disabled aGPS, using com4 9600.
Hope this helps.
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How do you disabled aGPS ?
Is using com4 9600 enough to disabled it ?

Zeganso said:
its the same with gps. I've read in several sites that it had gps. Its wrong. only agps.
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WRONG my HTC Touch 3G aka Jade has a build-in GPS reveiver

About cht9000 have a gps? how to use?

I have a cht9000 ,now i had open it,bu i don`t know how to use gps?

did u mean gps internal? u can unlock the gps internal, but the signal is really poor. i use gps external which has better signal quality.

e7fendy said:
did u mean gps internal? u can unlock the gps internal, but the signal is really poor. i use gps external which has better signal quality.
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Hi brother, can you explain how to unlock the gps? Thanks!

The HTC Hermes does have GPS integrated into its radio chipset (which is the same one used in the Trinity).
But however the Hermes does not have an external antennae, not like the Trinity and therefore the GPS is made useless.

smljr said:
I have a cht9000 ,now i had open it,bu i don`t know how to use gps?
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can't .................