Hello, i am from greece, so i am not that familiar with the loads of names i came across for the p3300, since in my country there is only HTC Branded phones, not XDA or DOPOD or whatever. I have the phone for quite some time now and i am always in the tact of updating my devices. So the time for my htc has come. I am gonna unlock it through imei-check since as i read there is not a commercial unlocker yet, and i am having a bit of a problem in order what rom i should pick to flash on my phone. I really dont need the greek support on my phone, since all my devices are on english. So, can someone help me choosing in what rom i should choose ?
And i have couple of questions too,
1) I have a rom from my manufacturer's page that only updates the Greek language menus, if i flash to some abroad rom will i still able to put that rom to my phone to have greek again or no ?
2) Will (Lets say O2 or another ROM) be compatible with my carrier ( Cosmote GR).
Any help will be great.
Thank you for your time,
Best Regards , George.
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I was under the idea that the VPAII (Vodafone) was a HTC Wiza-200 or does this fall under HERM? The handheld itself is only sold through Vodafone in a German format. YOu can even get the roms from the Vodafone website, but once again German. I have made several attempts at making this device WWE. I have downloaded and installed several different roms, the new programs give me english but the menus and the old menus are still all GER. Is there any way to change this? I have also downloaded the "Total Commander" but i am unsure of the locations of what i have to change to get English.
CAn anyone pleae help
Edit: My mistake. My phone is a G4 Wiza100 and it was locked. I got around the CID lock using some advice i got from a post on here..thanks guys..sorry to bother
Hi,
I have the same model, however i did not succeed in SIM-unlocking it.
Can you pls tell me how you did it?
Thanx.
Hi all,
sorry for that newbie question, but while I am living in UK, I got the british Orbit. Being German on the other hand, I would looooove WM6, especially in German (Language doesn't really matter, but e.g. the Keyboard layout would help!)
So - what to do to upgrade it? Will I really have to pay to get it CID Unlocked? Is there a workaround (NBHTool / UpgradeTool) or would I miss something that would be upgraded otherwise too?
Or shall I just call o2, ask them to unlock or replace it (the actual device)?
Or will the update be released for british orbits too (I'd probably rather wait a bit instead of spending money)...
If your device is o2 branded, you can download the update from o2 Germany's site and try the upgrade. The way the interface works for these OEM upgrades are very safe. If the program cannot or will not upgrade your Orbit to WM6, it will tell you - not destroy your device. Worst case, just wait for o2 UK or HTC to release WM6, but I think having CID unlock is just a good idea in general because it open so many doors for you. its all the cooked, or otherwise modified ROMs that you have to watch out for. Not everyone has the same concept of 'stable platform'.
It is o2 Branded, but unfortunately o2 UK, so it does not accept the German release (tried yesterday) - one way or another, preferring to have WM6 in German, I guess I couldn't avoid the unlock, could I?
If you want the Deutsche sprache ROM right now, then yeah, then unlock seems to be the way. I want mine to be in English, so I am going to wait for o2 UK or HTC.
same **** with mine. I want to change it from Deutsch to English, so i'll wait for the UK o2 release. Do u know if i will (i suppose based on the opposite tries) be able to flash mine German O2 orbit to the UK version. I hate it like that really much.
With CID Unlock I was able to get the OEM HTC rom onto my German Orbit in English. There is a write up somewhere on how to do it. You have to use this program that Hex edits the files of the HTC rom and allows it to load in conjunction to having the phone CID unlocked.
Here is the link to the thread..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=290241
I cant find the link to the ROm but this is what it is called -
HTC_1.12.405.01_026790_WWE_SHIP
Hello, this is my first post and I am glad I joined this brilliant community with so many helpful people and resources.
I am getting a Blackstone in the next 24 hours from Orange UK and wanted to ask if the Orange device has the same programs and versions and no difference at all as the retail version (sim free, WWE, etc) that can be bought from other vendors.
And also wanted to know if installing the ROMs that are designed here would do the debranding of the Orange UK device. If the ROMs don't do that - and the Orange HD is different to the retail version - what should I do to debrand my new HD to make it similar to the retail ones? ( I know that flashing them will not unlock the sim).
Thanks.
ezsurfer said:
Hello, this is my first post and I am glad I joined this brilliant community with so many helpful people and resources.
I am getting a Blackstone in the next 24 hours from Orange UK and wanted to ask if the Orange device has the same programs and versions and no difference at all as the retail version (sim free, WWE, etc) that can be bought from other vendors.
And also wanted to know if installing the ROMs that are designed here would do the debranding of the Orange UK device. If the ROMs don't do that - and the Orange HD is different to the retail version - what should I do to debrand my new HD to make it similar to the retail ones? ( I know that flashing them will not unlock the sim).
Thanks.
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Welcome to XDA-Devs. I am not in the UK so I can't speak specifically about the the Orange HD device. I purchased mine from a retailer which was the HTC Touch HD with no mobile branding. This phone is not sim-locked to a mobile carrier so I can use whichever GSM carrier I so choose.
Typically phones "branded" for companies are cheaper and at a reduced price. Once you flash a ROM however all the Orange software, etc. will be gone. You can flash a shipped WWE HTC ROM version if you like and get all same software that I had on my phone.
Just make sure you have HardSPL on you device before you flash.
I highly recommend you try one of the cooked ROMs on XDA after you play around with your device for a while.
Thanks for your reply.
I was asking about the differences between Orange branded ones and SIM free ones because usually Orange have made changes in the previous original devices the sell and they become very sluggish and take off some factory settings and features.
I read about installing or having the HardSPL and understand that I need to use it and then install or flash a ROM. Just will need some time or advice on which ones to choose to have or at least a preview or some pics of how the device works or looks after each of them.
hello:
welcome to Xda.
i am in US and i got my phone from UK. it is unlocked, unbranded version. it came with europe version stock rom. there is no special software in it. i also tried orange uk version rom. it has exactly same software in europe wwe rom.
so you dont have to worry about the rom. they are the same.
Thanks for the replies.
I just got the HTD HD from Orange UK today and it seems with this model they didn't make any changes to the original OS - at least it looks like it.
I have been reading about SIM unlocking for the HD in another thread and wanted to ask if it is ok to SIM unlock and if it will remain unlocked after using HSPL and ROMs created here. Or should I go for the HardSPL and ROMs first and leave the SIM unlock for last? Also wanted to know which HardSPL and ROMs are the most used or prefered by most people in the forums so I could know which one to go for.
Orange HD
i also have the orange - not so bright - Touch Hd
there is no network branding or software on the handset - luckily for us
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I have been reading about SIM unlocking for the HD in another thread and wanted to ask if it is ok to SIM unlock and if it will remain unlocked after using HSPL and ROMs created here.
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Once you SIM unlock it will stay that way. It can't be reversed by flashing another ROM.
As any one tried the new ROM update from HTC in the UK ?
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=2&dl_id=533
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dgattenb said:
As any one tried the new ROM update from HTC in the UK ?
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=2&dl_id=533
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Bit outdated mate. Dated 7th April 2009. Looks most likely like version 1.56 which has been incorporated into a lot of WM6.1 roms. However newer releases including 1.57 & 1.59 have been released. Latest cooked roms already include either 1.57 or 1.59
Shipped roms can be found in wiki here mate
not in date ?
Mine's rom 1.14.405.3 ( 22273m ) WWE
Radio 1.09.25.14
when I can put in my serial number into HTC it says the patch is not fro my phone .
I'm with Orange UK
serail
BTW My serial is HT849KD09700 ...
dgattenb said:
BTW My serial is HT849KD09700 ...
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You can download same shipped rom from wiki no problem. I provided link in previous post.
dgattenb said:
Mine's rom 1.14.405.3 ( 22273m ) WWE
Radio 1.09.25.14
when I can put in my serial number into HTC it says the patch is not fro my phone .
I'm with Orange UK
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If your phone if orange branded then this is the reason why HTC says the firmware update is not for your phone.
dgattenb said:
As any one tried the new ROM update from HTC in the UK ?
http://www.htc.com/www/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=179&cat=2&dl_id=533
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My new Touch HD came last week with this ROM on it - it's on T-Mobile but SIM unlocked. very stable, no major problems other than the fact I could do with a better radio support since the T-Mobile coverage where I am is lousy, but the Touch is still worse than my SonyEricsson W950i.
Will 1.57 or 1.59 ROMs help on the radio side ?
answer from HTC
Dear Customer, Thank you for contacting our Customer Support Center. An IMEI check of your device indicated that it is an exclusive product, branded to the HT849KD09700 mobile network. SN :HT849KD09700 IMEI :3539xxxxxxxxxx Part Number :99HHCxxxxxxx Part Description :SKU,ORANGE,English-WWE,GBR,HTC,UMTS 900/2100,Regional_ID_Low,Sophisticate Black,w/SIM Lock,BLACKSTONE-A2 Customer Name :Orange P.C.S Limited We can only offer limited technical support for network branded handsets, as both software and hardware can be altered by the network provider. For this reason, contact your provider for any support that you might need, including repairs and software updates. As your handset is an exclusive product from a distributor, you will also not be able to get the HTC website support files as this is only for genuine original HTC branded devices.
Im asking orange now for more infomation
Please let us know how Orange responds. I too would like to try a new ROM update on my Orange TOuch HD.
Jack
I just changed the title to refelct the subject mater better.
You are facing the same problem as most of us which is why this site is loved so much.
In my case I have 1.14 German rom sold by sunrise.
My S/N also does not work on the 1.56 shipped roms from HTC.
They will also not sell me a WWE version of Blackstone.
So the only choice I have is to USPL / HSPL the device and get myself either a cooked or shiiped rom.
Now I am lucky as the branding of the device (flash screen, ect) is on no intrest to me, on top of that Sunrise gives me no add on Cabs that I need or even want.
My aprroaching sunrise has got me no were.
My hope is that you might get somewere and that we might beable to get a shipped rom that we can add to our collection.
Good luck
slightly off topic, but what is the difference between the WWE and European versions of the ROM available on the Wiki ? I'm currently on WWE 1.56 (T-Mobile UK) and have upgraded the radio from 1.13 to 1.14 without any effect. Wondering if the Europe version is any different, also wondering if it would help any of you locked onto Orange ?
no responce from orange
No responce from orange yet , will keep you guys upto date , chnaging the radio wont work on the Orange ROM , in the forum there are loads of folk who have kiled there phone and had to go back to " factory " settings .
I have written a letter of complaint to orange as they have said that there are no plans to release any updated ROM versions in the future. I await a call from orange complaints department. Im not expecting anything. If you put a non-orange ROM on your phone then you void your warranty. Great service me thinks not!
This is the latest rom from orange. check this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517803
still nothign
still nothing from orange, I cant see wht orange wont " upgrade " the rom , even HTC this fixes certain problems... I will ask them again and get back to you ..
This reminds me so much of a past experience I had with a phone network company. Yes it maybe Orange!!!
Same thing as you I wrote and wrote. In the end I got so fed up I upgraded with a custom rom that suited my needs. I DID however take note that by doing a custom rom/radio upgrade screwed the warrenty...HOWEVER I read on xda dev many threads on backing up the original rom along (and more importantly) HOW TO downgrade back incase the phone needed replacing via the Networks Warrenty.
Orange IMHO are the best network out there for many reasons. But I guess they are of the opinion, that as the rom that come with it works without too many customers complaining, then they won't and need not offer an update.
For the record. I updated to Miri v12 and have followed this rom genious for months. My Blackstone runs like a bullet from a gun, and is as reliable as I want. Everything works on it and I now know exactly HOW to downgrade the phone should it happen to go wrong and need to be shipped back to Orange for replacement....or repair.
Read....read and read some more...and you'll end up loving you Blackstone more than you would have.
I have just spoken to customer support. They are now saying that the first year of warranty is with HTC and that in her opinion they would not void the warranty if you install the official rom, even though HTC say the ROM upgrade is not compatible !?!
Yea I am having exactly the same problem, I did try two updated roms from the wiki, The WWE 1.59 and the EU 1.59 both worked as far as resetting my phone got to 1% and then came up on the PC screen to say it was not supported by my provider? Would I be able to use one of these roms and flash it using another method? I have seen a few other methods of doing it?
Also would it be benificial to just use a cooked rom if I can't get one from Orange? Would I still be able to connect into their network afterwards or would I need to input a whole lot of settings?
mwaldi3 said:
Yea I am having exactly the same problem, I did try two updated roms from the wiki, The WWE 1.59 and the EU 1.59 both worked as far as resetting my phone got to 1% and then came up on the PC screen to say it was not supported by my provider? Would I be able to use one of these roms and flash it using another method? I have seen a few other methods of doing it?
Also would it be benificial to just use a cooked rom if I can't get one from Orange? Would I still be able to connect into their network afterwards or would I need to input a whole lot of settings?
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may be worth checking my posts at the end of the "Dummys guide...." in the ROM section and adding your voice
Cool thanks will do
Hi all,
Im back after a very long time because.
I buyed after a very long time a htc touch hd...
well its not new, the guy were i buyed from used it for 1week and didn't liked the touchscreen. He told me he received it as a present for xmas and stuff like that.
Now is my Question: i want to flash my rom because its WM 6.1 and i heared alot of great things about WM 6.5 is that trough ?
Also if i flash my HTC TOUCH HD, will my simlock dissapear or something ?
Cause on my last phones it was, i flashed it and i needed to unlock it again and more headache.
Is it normal that the simlock will reactivate if its flashed to WM6.5 ??
If the htc still unlocked.
Which ROM you all will advice me ? i really prefer Dutch roms, but english roms are also oke.
and also tell me why, so i can get all the benefits of it
Im not a beginner in flashing of phones but flashing of HTC's i am.
I only did it once as far as i can remember and that was on a P3300 a very old model, So if there is also a little manual i will be very thankfull.
Thank you all,
Regards,
BiGGiE89
biggie89 said:
Hi all,
Im back after a very long time because.
I buyed after a very long time a htc touch hd...
well its not new, the guy were i buyed from used it for 1week and didn't liked the touchscreen. He told me he received it as a present for xmas and stuff like that.
Now is my Question: i want to flash my rom because its WM 6.1 and i heared alot of great things about WM 6.5 is that trough ?
Also if i flash my HTC TOUCH HD, will my simlock dissapear or something ?
Cause on my last phones it was, i flashed it and i needed to unlock it again and more headache.
Is it normal that the simlock will reactivate if its flashed to WM6.5 ??
If the htc still unlocked.
Which ROM you all will advice me ? i really prefer Dutch roms, but english roms are also oke.
and also tell me why, so i can get all the benefits of it
Im not a beginner in flashing of phones but flashing of HTC's i am.
I only did it once as far as i can remember and that was on a P3300 a very old model, So if there is also a little manual i will be very thankfull.
Thank you all,
Regards,
BiGGiE89
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Hi biggie89,
Yes, the good news is that there have been many advancements and improvements to the Windows Mobile OS in version 6.5, such as having a more finger friendly User Interface - providing you with a much neater and tidy user experience. Speed varies depending on which 6.5/6.5.x ROM you choose to install and you will be glad to know that both Dutch and English ROMs are available for download
The bad news is that if you flash your HD in it's current state (simlocked), then I am afraid that this is unlikely to work until you get your SIM unlocked as the simlock is controlled by the baseband. Data is stored there too and flashing the radio or ROM will not have any effect on the simlock. Therefore, I would advise you to have it unlocked before you begin the flashing process.
Here is a guide that you can read to make you more aware of how to flash a Touch HD ROM. Essentially, what you must do first is unlock your phone using either Hard-SPL or USPL.
You can also see this link as it details what the latest ROM builds offer in terms of stability and performance.
I think it would be a little unfair to say which ROM is best especiallly for the people who create these custom ROMs. Each ROM is different in their own little way i.e. one ROM might be fast but a little unstable, another may be stable but a little slow, etc... The best thing you can do is try out different ROMs (Dutch or English versions) yourself and try to discover which one meets your needs.
Note: when you get to the stage of downloading a ROM, to find a Dutch based ROM, simply look at the headings of the ROMs listed from this link. Dutch ROMs include the abbreviation NLD in their title [NLD = Netherlands], and English ROMs have WWE in the title [WWE = World Wide English].
I hope this helps you out.
Regards.
Mastoid is correct. Flashing to a new rom, even if you use hspl, will unfortunately not unlock the sim.
There are tools that can do that, but it is not free. You can try this one which seems to be popular and effective.
Hi all and thanks for your reply on my message..
My htc HD works now with my vodafone NL simcard so its not simlocked or something i think i wrote my question wrong..
Im scared if i FLash my rom that the unlocking of my device comes back, So i can't use my vodafone NL simcard with it.
Is that possible ??
the current state is unlocked or locked with vodafone i dont know for sure but you guys tell me that if i FLASH my rom now i still can use my vodafone NL simcard ???
if that is the way i will flash my rom in to a nice ROM that u guys told me to do..
the thing what i want to is..
USE my vodafone NL simcard with my htc touch HD like now but with a different ROM.
my htc touch HD is working great with WM 6.1 with a vodafone NL simcard.
so im still confused with the simcard if it will work.
do you guys think that it will work with WM6.5 ??
Greetz,
BiGGiE89
biggie89 said:
Hi all and thanks for your reply on my message..
My htc HD works now with my vodafone NL simcard so its not simlocked or something i think i wrote my question wrong..
Im scared if i FLash my rom that the unlocking of my device comes back, So i can't use my vodafone NL simcard with it.
Is that possible ??
the current state is unlocked or locked with vodafone i dont know for sure but you guys tell me that if i FLASH my rom now i still can use my vodafone NL simcard ???
if that is the way i will flash my rom in to a nice ROM that u guys told me to do..
the thing what i want to is..
USE my vodafone NL simcard with my htc touch HD like now but with a different ROM.
my htc touch HD is working great with WM 6.1 with a vodafone NL simcard.
so im still confused with the simcard if it will work.
do you guys think that it will work with WM6.5 ??
Greetz,
BiGGiE89
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Flashing a rom does not affect the status of the simcard so it will still work. Just follow the Dummies Guide (link by Mastoid above) and you'll be fine
Rick
thank you very much and all the guys who tried to help me...
I will start with flashin my rom tomorrow..
is there also a manual what tells me how to make your own ROM..
I have experience in C and java so programming is not that hard for me.
Regards,
BiGGiE89
biggie89 said:
thank you very much and all the guys who tried to help me...
I will start with flashin my rom tomorrow..
is there also a manual what tells me how to make your own ROM..
I have experience in C and java so programming is not that hard for me.
Regards,
BiGGiE89
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Would start here and here. Good luck , I look forward to seeing your roms
Rick
biggie89 said:
thank you very much and all the guys who tried to help me...
I will start with flashin my rom tomorrow..
is there also a manual what tells me how to make your own ROM..
I have experience in C and java so programming is not that hard for me.
Regards,
BiGGiE89
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Pleasure mate, no problem at all. If you need any more assistance or have any more concerns, then all you have to do is just post back here. Any of the guys mentioned above (including myself if i am capable) will more than willingly help you out.
Best Regards.