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Hey guys well first off i would like to say i own a mogul and i love it but i have seen so many roms and i like alot of them, im looking for a good rom to put on my mogul but problem is...i have no clue how to upgrade and do all the required task to upgrade, what are the risk and how risky are they?
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Hey guys well first off i would like to say i own a mogul and i love it but i have seen so many roms and i like alot of them, im looking for a good rom to put on my mogul but problem is...i have no clue how to upgrade and do all the required task to upgrade, what are the risk and how risky are they?
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The riskiest possible thing for you to do with your phone is to attempt to upgrade the ROM, particularly to an unofficial release, without reading all the threads about upgrading here and on the other PDA forums. You will also see some of the potential problems and the occasional complexity in recovering from them. After doing that reading, you will have no need to post a question like this. Asking others to summarize all of that information for you is a bit much, and puts you at the disadvantage of not being fully informed.
I am considering buying the Telstra HD2 via a buddy in Oz for use on AT&Ts network. I have been checking out the forums and it seems there are a ton of issues with the HD2 regarding touch screen failures, data connection issues, and other nags that make the experience more frustrating than enjoyable.
Would love to know from experienced users opinions on whether or not I should buy the HD2. I am a very experienced BlackBerry user but I have gotten bored with the UI and want to try something new.
Also to note: I plan to use my next ATT upgrade to get the WP7 phone but that is too long a wait to stick it out on the BB. I am not going to switch to TMob as I think I am the only ATT user that is satisfied with ATT.
Really any thoughts on why I should or should not buy the Telstra HD2 would be appreciated.
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I am considering buying the Telstra HD2 via a buddy in Oz for use on AT&Ts network. I have been checking out the forums and it seems there are a ton of issues with the HD2 regarding touch screen failures, data connection issues, and other nags that make the experience more frustrating than enjoyable.
Would love to know from experienced users opinions on whether or not I should buy the HD2. I am a very experienced BlackBerry user but I have gotten bored with the UI and want to try something new.
Also to note: I plan to use my next ATT upgrade to get the WP7 phone but that is too long a wait to stick it out on the BB. I am not going to switch to TMob as I think I am the only ATT user that is satisfied with ATT.
Really any thoughts on why I should or should not buy the Telstra HD2 would be appreciated.
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The HD2 had ALOT of complaints from users when it first came out and all the problems it had was due to the terrible rom that it came with. The latest official Rom v1.66 and any custom rom from the rom development forum have fixed all these problems and after owning an HD2 for 2 1/2 months I can say hand on heart that it is the best phone I have ever seen or used. No freezes, no problems with the screen, no data connection problems and a pleasure to use. Everytime I look at it I still think WOW!!
Even the camera and video capture which has always been dismal at best on HTC phones is now fantastic and stunningly fast.
With the tweaks and mods available on xda you wont find a better phone.
I advised a friend to get one a few weeks ago and after he got his HD2 he thanked me for recommending it so my advise to you would be to get one as you will not be disapointed.
The only thing I will say is that once you get it be prepared to put HardSPL on it and flash either the 1.66 stock rom or one of the custom roms available to make sure it runs at its best.
Mark.
king_fish said:
I am considering buying the Telstra HD2 via a buddy in Oz for use on AT&T's network. ...any thoughts on why I should or should not buy the Telstra HD2 would be appreciated.
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I purchased one Telstra HD2 for myself, flashed the ROM (to XannyTech's), and have had no problems except a bug related to screen rotation during phone calls causing the dialpad to reposition itself annoyingly (there's a simple work-around). My boss was so impressed with the phone that he bought one and I've prepped it the same way.
I have no reservations about the purchases. Worrying about WP7 upgrade possibilities is silly since we all know so very little about what might happen. You're right not to listen to the Chicken Littles who want to sue HTC or see the price come down because an upgrade never offered now may only be possible instead of probable.
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The HD2 had ALOT of complaints from users when it first came out and all the problems it had was due to the terrible rom that it came with. The latest official Rom v1.66 and any custom rom from the rom development forum have fixed all these problems and after owning an HD2 for 2 1/2 months I can say hand on heart that it is the best phone I have ever seen or used. No freezes, no problems with the screen, no data connection problems and a pleasure to use. Everytime I look at it I still think WOW!!
Even the camera and video capture which has always been dismal at best on HTC phones is now fantastic and stunningly fast.
With the tweaks and mods available on xda you wont find a better phone.
I advised a friend to get one a few weeks ago and after he got his HD2 he thanked me for recommending it so my advise to you would be to get one as you will not be disapointed.
The only thing I will say is that once you get it be prepared to put HardSPL on it and flash either the 1.66 stock rom or one of the custom roms available to make sure it runs at its best.
Mark.
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Awesome and thanks for the input. I am sold. My buddy in Perth grabbed one for me today and it is on the way to me. I was debating whether or not to sell it but I want to keep it. Your explanation of flashing the ROM was one of the first links I bookmarked from this site.
I am definitely going to have to HardSPL the device - what I understand is that the Telstra ROM will not allow me to access ATT's 3G bands. I have been on a BlackBerry for 5 years so this is all new to me but I am looking forward to getting the HD2.
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Awesome and thanks for the input. I am sold. My buddy in Perth grabbed one for me today and it is on the way to me. I was debating whether or not to sell it but I want to keep it. Your explanation of flashing the ROM was one of the first links I bookmarked from this site.
I am definitely going to have to HardSPL the device - what I understand is that the Telstra ROM will not allow me to access ATT's 3G bands. I have been on a BlackBerry for 5 years so this is all new to me but I am looking forward to getting the HD2.
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When you get it make sure you check the SPL in the bootloader screen to make sure you can put HardSPL on it. The requirements are SPL 1.42. I dont think any phones are being sold with a higher SPL version but you really want to check that first before you start drooling over the sheer beauty of it
Once you are ready to start flashing it please post in my flashing for noobs thread if you have any more observations or questions.
Mark.
manicotti said:
I purchased one Telstra HD2 for myself, flashed the ROM (to XannyTech's), and have had no problems except a bug related to screen rotation during phone calls causing the dialpad to reposition itself annoyingly (there's a simple work-around). My boss was so impressed with the phone that he bought one and I've prepped it the same way.
I have no reservations about the purchases. Worrying about WP7 upgrade possibilities is silly since we all know so very little about what might happen. You're right not to listen to the Chicken Littles who want to sue HTC or see the price come down because an upgrade never offered now may only be possible instead of probable.
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Theres an even better replacement than the rotate fix, there's a dll fix now too
I think it's an excellent phone, but the standard Telstra ROM is terrible, I'm using the latest Energy ROM and the phone is AMAZING now
I agree in that it is an excellent phone. I am using it on AT&T here in the US.
I have tried several of the ROMs cooked here and can say they all offer great alternatives. Go for it!
I also have the T9193 setup with ATT. I went for the safe sea wwe 1.66 rom. The only problem I had was with the data freezing on me a couple times a day. But once I got the right bands setup and installed the 2.08.50.08_2 radio the phone has been flawless for weeks. Not one issue. I have had no problems with the touchscreen at all.
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Theres an even better replacement than the rotate fix, there's a dll fix now too
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Not the right thread maybe, but what is the link to this fix? Only thing that annoys me sometimes. Thanks.
Concerning this thread, MSKip recommended me the HD2 (he came from a TyTn II) just like me, and I can only repeat every word he said. Even camera is quite nice. Used in a trip with my kids, and it did its job when I needed quite nicely.
I also bought my Telstra to use in the same band as AT&T in Brazil. It's been working with no problem. I don't keep it connected all the time, so can not say about stability of connection, but whenever I need I connect HSPA right away and connection is quite fast and it is quite OK to browse the web with it. And thing is no lag! I use Miri 6.5.x, great, there is a fix for the registry to select correct bands or auto... My 2 cents.
PS: I was only missing a little bit hardware keyboard and media keys. Now I'm getting used to on-screen keyboard and typing is getting closer in speed and accuracy to a hard keyboard. Media keys, well, I use my bluetooth headphone's, still miss them sometimes, though, but nothing is perfect, is it?
I have been happy with ATT, but the price of the import is too steep so I cannot stay if I want the HD2
If you dont mind the price importing shouldnt be too bad, I know someone who did and has been very happy with it.
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Not the right thread maybe, but what is the link to this fix? Only thing that annoys me sometimes. Thanks.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5768112&postcount=3
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5768112&postcount=3
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Thanks. Trying it.
Yes, not cheap. I've got my HD2 Telstra from Australia to the US for around U$ 800 total.
guys/gals do not upgrade you HD2 with a new software, it make it instable... many people have been reported issues with the phone, that they never had before.... so do yourself a favor don't do it! i did it and now i can listen to music it will show the tittle but it wont play it.. any advice?? thanks
If you have only just upgraded the software and you have a lot of songs, the song wont play untill it fully indexes all the files, give it some time and it will work.
Flash a custom rom for better stability
Give some details like witch ROM version causing this problems.
i did the software upgrade from t-mo usa
FRANQ_23_PL said:
Give some details like witch ROM version causing this problems.
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rom: 2.13.531.1 os version: 5.2.21892
Where you find that version? I have latest ROM 1.66 WWE for Europe. I know is newer - 1.72.xxx but for Taiwan. Maybe your rom is not official?
he's talking about the US tmobile ROM that was pulled for not working.
The only problem I've got is the on screen phone buttons won't work during a phone call... real pain no pressing one!
Tap & slide makes the screen buttons work! SOOO... I have no problems now! I understand there are problems if you have purchased one of the preloaded games. However, they do warn you ahead of time.
official from t-mo usa. they just pull it off from the web site,
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Where you find that version? I have latest ROM 1.66 WWE for Europe. I know is newer - 1.72.xxx but for Taiwan. Maybe your rom is not official?
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official from t-mo usa. they just pull it off from the web site I will keep you guys informed as soon as the new release is posted.
Well I can honestly say that I have had absolutely no problems with this update! I have read all the stories about issues with the 2.13 update like weaker signal and screen sensitivity but everything couldn't be better! Screen works great if not better. Signal has somewhat improved. I used too have a problem with the native music player but now it works perfectly!
This update couldn't have come at a better time cause I was near returning this phone. The one thing i hated about this phone was that the swype didn't work the way i thought it would. It was actually one of the reasons i wanted to get it! It's so much better now, that I have written this whole reply on my hd2 using swype!
So i guess it could be device dependent or maybe it could be a bad download that you got. Try to download it again or from another source. I got mine here on xda but i forgot from which thread! Well i hope you get it ironed out cause the HD2 is a really great phone with so much potential!
i just bought my phone a week ago and i came with rom: 2.13.531.1 os version: 5.2.21892. and i cant even make it a day without the battery dying. what can i do to run longer? and the sms seems to lag just a lil bit.
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i just bought my phone a week ago and i came with rom: 2.13.531.1 os version: 5.2.21892. and i cant even make it a day without the battery dying. what can i do to run longer? and the sms seems to lag just a lil bit.
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I'm sorry you're having problems! I've had an opposite experience - better battery and more stable. Check the forum for battery saving advice... the best of which is turn off automatic backlight!
Mine got more stable as well with the update, my battery lasted about a day of pretty good usage so I wont complain. Light usage is about a day and a half / 2 days tops.
My only complaint is the less sensitive screen.
well i read that an update got pulled about a week ago and thats when i got my phone, but i talked to tmobile and they said they have put it back up so im goin to update as soon as i get a chance.
only reason it was pulled from the official upgrade site was lack of bandwidth....it's back up now and for those of you who are running stock roms, i HIGHLY suggest upgrading it will increase the device stability considerably, also it will fix some reception issues. overall highly recommended.
You Know... they ought to change the name of this thread.
hey guys,
i have a lot of questions...
i tried android on my hd a lot of times....
the first times it worked finde but the latest roms are all crashed after a while
after deep sleep they are all freezing...
so the first question, is it an issue of my rom i´m using?
which one are you using for android? especially the devs which one are you using to try youre andrid?
i think its the best way if evertybody is using the same one to find out whick´h errors are comin from the windows rom or from android?
okay next question...
why is it not possible to install the cab on the main storage of the hd? a lot of errors are issued by the slow spped of the sd card? in my opinion it would fix a lot of probs if we can install android on the main storage, it would imrpove speed and saves sd card?
i´m not a dev so i don´t know if there is any possibility or not, its just a question for my understanding
i´m really looking forward to see a android rom for he hd bur i know its hard work for our devs here...
maybe we can make a bonus, everybody who wants a rom for android will pay 10 euros or dollar in jackpot and the guy who make a rom working will win the pot ;-)
thanxs for your answers and sorry for that bad german english
best wishes from germany
tom
is there really nobody who lnwos any answers?
it's just useless to reply because it has already been explained 10.000 times all over. If you at least 'd take the time to read
where is it explained which rom each dev is using? is ther any thread? if yes pls show me, cause i read a lot of time here.
and where is exaxtly written why we definitly canßt use the mainstorage?
We still need windows to initialize a lot of the hardware before launching android, for the moment.
At the moment, we cannot figure out the way to initialize it before booting android, this is why there's no android ROM ready.
Besides, there's still a lot more urgent/important things to do before (Deep sleep causing crashes, HW3D not working on Blackstone, and battery life, for example)
Tom1386 said:
where is it explained which rom each dev is using? is ther any thread? if yes pls show me, cause i read a lot of time here.
and where is exaxtly written why we definitly canßt use the mainstorage?
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It's explain, countless time.
READ
then read again.
It's in the virtually all the main FAQ's.
AND this isn't a f**king ROM... THAT is explained in the FAQ's too.
oh i think you got me wrong. i don't want to install it like a rom. my questiin was about installing the cab on the mainstorage instead of the sd card. cause the reading time of the sd will be the biggest ussue which makes android slow and will causetbe problem of the waiting for... problems.
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Please, there's no need to be rude, even if those questions were already asked and answered countless time, you're just losing your own time.
Tom1386 said:
oh i think you got me wrong. i don't want to install it like a rom. my questiin was about installing the cab on the mainstorage instead of the sd card. cause the reading time of the sd will be the biggest ussue which makes android slow and will causetbe problem of the waiting for... problems.
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For the moment, we don't have access to the mainstorage from android, only the sdcard, if I remember correctly.
Alright people!
I am the developer of the SenseHERO rom for the HTC Hero (http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698281). I have recently obtained a HTC Touch HD so I will begin developing for you when I get some spare time.
Has anybody yet been successfully in getting tinboot working from NAND yet? If not then I may have to get my hands dirty and see what I can achieve just for experimental purposes obviously with the full awareness that alot of work will be needed to get hardware properly initialized.
If we get stuck the best person to get info for this would be DZO who made android from NAND a reality for the Vogue/Kaiser who are now running it on their Devices as stable & fast as the Native Android Phones..
Best Regards,
ST1Cl<^^aN
Stickman89 said:
Alright people!
I am the developer of the SenseHERO rom for the HTC Hero (http://ip208-100-42-21.static.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698281). I have recently obtained a HTC Touch HD so I will begin developing for you when I get some spare time.
Has anybody yet been successfully in getting tinboot working from NAND yet? If not then I may have to get my hands dirty and see what I can achieve just for experimental purposes obviously with the full awareness that alot of work will be needed to get hardware properly initialized.
If we get stuck the best person to get info for this would be DZO who made android from NAND a reality for the Vogue/Kaiser who are now running it on their Devices as stable & fast as the Native Android Phones..
Best Regards,
ST1Cl<^^aN
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this would be a great breakthrough !!!!!!!!!!!! if it would be possible for you ...
thanks...
if you beginn developing - maybe a good idea to make a new thread for it
hey all,
As all have seen in the forums, there is a beta of mango which is already running on our HD2's.
My question is:
Is it really worth to flash now or should we wait for later??
Which bugs have been registered with our devices until now?
Are they serious or only small bugs??
Thx in advance
I have noticed that several apps do not work properly on Mango. Either lagging or crashing. I reverted to nodo..
If you want to do some experiments then flash Mango now. If you need stable good work without waiting next unexpected reboot use Yuki V5.
A lot of bugs from small to big in Mango now .....
i think it's not the right place to open this thread, but, you have to try it
it has A LOT of bugs, everywhere.. in IE9, apps, etc etc etc
you can call and write sms, you have only 5 lenguages, and, not all apps work, so, if you need a stable phone, i adviced you to change to mango even if it works normally in phone functions
if you want to try the new speed, right, you can come back, sure!
so, simply you have to try if the bugs isn't big issues for you
I'm using Mango and am amazed how well it works. I encountered one real bug so far, in IE9. It doesn't seem to like Edge data networks. One other semi-bug is sometimes the links in the XDA website don't work...maybe it's just super slow loading, though.
Otherwise, all that I've tried so far works splendidly. Last night I used the Bluetooth to connect to a BT shelf speaker and it worked without a fault.
I can't say how it might work on a Euro HD2, but my T-Mobile US HD2 loves it. I also think Mango might handle video response differently for producing colors because the color reproduction on my HD2 running Mango is fantastic. I compared the display to my Focus, which runs Super AMOLED display and they are almost identical in color and the HD2 looks cleaner, crisper and has better white production than the Focus.
If you have a US HD2, go for it. I'm keeping mine because I like that much.
I have TMOUS. I did two attempts to flash this very green Mango, but couldn't live with it well. When I flashed and used mango i tell myself it is just small problem soon will be OK... bug... then another bug.... then during phone book loading to blueant reboot.... another reboot.... then apps don't work... so many more... So i can say my phone absolutly doesn't like Green Mango.
I finaly say - No can't live with it when perfectly working in all aspects NODO present. Went back to V5 NODO and so happy now again!!! But will wait of course final mango.
DO NOT FLASH HD2 MANGO!
Not worth it at all. It's all way to buggy and slow. It's almost like when android was first discovered onto our Leo devices- slow and cruddy but definitely has a future!
Thx for your feedback guys
I will not flash it, will wait for the final version
Have a nice weekend!!
Do not flash hd2 mango!
Finalforce1111 said:
Thx for your feedback guys
I will not flash it, will wait for the final version
Have a nice weekend!!
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Good choice. It was fun to experiment with, just to check it out. But as others have said it's waaaaayyy too buggy. 3rd party apps don't work, even some official apps like ebay don't work. Proximity sensor in-call doesn't work, so lots of hanging up or putting people on hold with cheeks, lol. IE9 is horrible in this build. Only Facebook integration works in the OS, etc. But I can tell you when it is done & we get a fully functional mango rom, it will be amazing!!!
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Good choice. It was fun to experiment with, just to check it out. But as others have said it's waaaaayyy too buggy. 3rd party apps don't work, even some official apps like ebay don't work. Proximity sensor in-call doesn't work, so lots of hanging up or putting people on hold with cheeks, lol. IE9 is horrible in this build. Only Facebook integration works in the OS, etc. But I can tell you when it is done & we get a fully functional mango rom, it will be amazing!!!
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Hmmm...you maybe should try the one from elfinlazz. It works splendidly and I just checked the PS and it worked like normal WP7. I did check the eBay app and couldn't get it to work. But it seems this elfinlazz ROM is closer to an actual WP7 than any of them.
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Hmmm...you maybe should try the one from elfinlazz. It works splendidly and I just checked the PS and it worked like normal WP7. I did check the eBay app and couldn't get it to work. But it seems this elfinlazz ROM is closer to an actual WP7 than any of them.
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That's the only one I've used. I would constantly hang up & put people on hold while talking on the phone.
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That's the only one I've used. I would constantly hang up & put people on hold while talking on the phone.
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You might investigate your card then, because they can cause some issues. Mine is Sandisk class 4 16GB
MartyLK said:
You might investigate your card then, because they can cause some issues. Mine is Sandisk class 4 16GB
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I'll check, but it's never given me issues with any other WP7 roms. And I also have the class 4 sandisk 16 gb. But now that I'm back on Yuki's NoDo, it's running perfect again. Appreciate the help though.
Finalforce1111 said:
hey all,
As all have seen in the forums, there is a beta of mango which is already running on our HD2's.
My question is:
Is it really worth to flash now or should we wait for later??
Which bugs have been registered with our devices until now?
Are they serious or only small bugs??
Thx in advance
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This is the dev forum not Q&A, go to Q&A/General if you wish to create topics like this.
giorgib said:
Do not flash hd2 mango!
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And why not?
I have the unlocked Mango (with market) and it runs great, Haven't come across any big bugs and battery last 24+ hours most of time unless doing heavy calling/gaming.
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This is the dev forum not Q&A, go to Q&A/General if you wish to create topics like this.
And why not?
I have the unlocked Mango (with market) and it runs great, Haven't come across any big bugs and battery last 24+ hours most of time unless doing heavy calling/gaming.
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I gotta agree. Mine works excellently and after doing the camera trick, battery life is much, much better. This is a ROM I want to make permanent.
I want ripe mango
TheATHEiST said:
This is the dev forum not Q&A, go to Q&A/General if you wish to create topics like this.
And why not?
I have the unlocked Mango (with market) and it runs great, Haven't come across any big bugs and battery last 24+ hours most of time unless doing heavy calling/gaming.
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Wish I had that kind of luck with the battery! Without any use it would last around 3 hours. With average use I'd get an hour of battery. Tried the cam trick & changing radio, but nothing wild improve it for me. Guess it's luck of the draw when it comes to battery & stability with the green mango roms. Still it does have some awesome new features. Can't wait for a ripe one.
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•Would• not wild. Won't let me edit on the app right now for some reason.
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Hi there,
Is it still buggy right now ?
I have a plan to upgrade from 6.5 to 7.5
thanks,
Ronald