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Co Pilot 6

Does anybody here use Co-Pilot 6 with the Exec, if you do comments would good on, installation, use etc

CoPilot 6
I would tell you if only ALK would provide the upgrade. They have been offering the upgrade since October 21 but all attempts to take advantage of the offer have been met with silence or an auto responder welcoming you to a customer support queue!
I am beginning to assume that there are no real people at ALK Europe.
Any suggestions for alternative software from a company that likes its customers?

Thats strange, I have emailed there customer support a couple of times and they replied very promptly unlike NAVMAN and TOM TOM who never bothered to reply. That's one one of the main reason why I'm interested in the Co-pilot because there customer support appeared better. Now you've got me thinking.

actually where did you bought it from ?
I cannot find any seller right now ? Seems that they will fit me best because of the eastern maps.

I'll let you know
I've been using Copilot since vedrsion 4. It's always proven to be a great and dependable product for me. I have ordered version 6 which seems like a perfect fit for the Universal. According to the e-mail I received, version 6 is supposed to ship tomorrow, so I will let you know next week how it works.
PanaBax

Hang tight!
Co-Pilot 6 will be available from T-Mobile UK real soon!
I am waiting for a copy myself.
Just trying to get some inside info!

co pilot6 and T mobile
Hi,
Funny I just rang tmobile two days ago asking for copilot 6 but it was not availbale for the Mda pro nor was available to buy and I was given no indication that it would be .So !!!!

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gps338 said:
Hi,
Funny I just rang tmobile two days ago asking for copilot 6 but it was not availbale for the Mda pro nor was available to buy and I was given no indication that it would be .So !!!!
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It is advertised on the Co-Pilot web site that T-Mobile is a seller, I guess the operator you spoke didn't realise. Would not be the first time the customer service people didn't know what the company there work for sells.
Have you spoken with ALK

copillot 6 and t mobile
Here the answer fromAlk :
Thank you kindly for your mail. As of today T-Mobile has started offering the MDA Pro with CoPilot Live 6 as a tight bundle. They unfortunately do not sell the CoPilot Live 6 software alone, so if you specifically require this part I suggest selecting an authorised reseller from ALK’s published list at http://www.alk.eu.com/buynow/buy_authoriseddealers.asp. Please let me know if you have additional questions.

On its way
I got a notification that Copilot 6 shipped to me today. I chose ground service, so it won't be here until Friday. I will give you an update then.
PanaBax

I have heard that Co-pilot 6 should be available in stores as of Wednesday! But unfortunately only as a packaged deal with the MDA Pro.
Should be picking my copy up on Wednesday.

Re: On its way
Panabax said:
I got a notification that Copilot 6 shipped to me today. I chose ground service, so it won't be here until Friday. I will give you an update then.
PanaBax
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I'll look forward to that, I order my o2 exec today, I just hope I've done the right thing :lol:

Re: On its way
Panabax said:
I got a notification that Copilot 6 shipped to me today. I chose ground service, so it won't be here until Friday. I will give you an update then.
PanaBax
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Did you receive your Co-Pilot???

Not until Monday
Did you receive your Co-Pilot???
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It was suppossed to arrive today, but the UPS track indicates that a train was late which delayed it :evil: (I've never seen that before :?: ). Anyway, UPS now has it set for delivery Monday. I will let you know how it works then.
Panabax

Co-Pilot has landed!
Picking up my copy on Monday!

meatychi said:
Co-Pilot has landed!
Picking up my copy on Monday!
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What map version did you get Just the UK or UK and Europe??? and where did you buy from???

Well bit of a long story but - I am getting it for free!
I bought the MDA3 about three months ago and had problems with it within the first 28 days of me having it, when I tried to exchange it in store they didn't have any in stock and T-Mobile were dis-continuing them, so I waited and waited until the PRO came out and because CO-Pilot 5 isnt compatible with the Pro then they have to honour that to be exchanged too!
I would expect it to be UK and Europe as my copy of 5 was UK and Europe and the live version too!
I'll let you know how it goes when I pick it up later!

Ok Picked it up!
First strange thing I noticed was that they have packaged Co-Pilot 6 in a Co-Pilot 5 box ( a bit strange ).
Receive the usual annoying Welcome to Co-Pilot intro.
Seems to work fine in landscape mode.
Switching screens when selecting a button is pretty fast.
Connects to BT GPS OK
Whilst changing POI's application froze ( soft reset required )
Started demo - sound didn't work at first but works after soft reset.
Volume switching OK
3D view smooth
Zoom mode IN/OUT OK
Earphones works OK
Unable to connect to LIVE No Modem at above number when trying to connect via GPRS/3G
Same issue as above with traffic update
MAYBE CAUSED by the demo? will test later when in vehicle
POI's now working
Big finger buttons great!
Quits nice and quick!
Well thats all I got time for at the moment!
Will update as I test!

Copilot 6 has two seperate installations, WM 2003 and WM 5.0. The VGA looks great. Landscape works great. The big buttons are a real plus. It allows you to use the thing without the stylus. I tried to install with the text to speach, and it works, but I hate it, just like I hated the prior versions TTS. I will reinstall with prerecorded promts.
The bluetooth setup was simple and worked flawlessly. I've only had a short time to test it, but so far, I am very satisfied.
Panabax

Panabax said:
Copilot 6 has two seperate installations, WM 2003 and WM 5.0. The VGA looks great. Landscape works great. The big buttons are a real plus. It allows you to use the thing without the stylus. I tried to install with the text to speach, and it works, but I hate it, just like I hated the prior versions TTS. I will reinstall with prerecorded promts.
The bluetooth setup was simple and worked flawlessly. I've only had a short time to test it, but so far, I am very satisfied.
Panabax
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Great information guys, interesting point about WM 2003 and 2005, do think it will work on the XDA II as well. BTW what BT device are you using

M5000 or Exec

About to buy a Universal .. currently with Orange ..but.. are there any strong reasons for moving to O2? Obviously hardware is the same, but is running the exec in corporate mode going to be significantly different to Orange?
Thanks!

just prefer the black xda exec, and i got a better free minutes deal with O2 (500mins free xnetwork)

In a post somewhere on this forum someone asked a question about the M5000 and installing software that suggested to me that Orange locks their machines to stop you installing unapproved (unsigned?) 3rd-party software.
I may have got the wrong end of the stick, of course :roll: but if it's true then that would be one major reason to steer clear of the M5000 IMHO. :shock: This user's post seemed to imply that Orange have sold other handsets with the same lock applied, so if you're already with Orange then you may know the answer to this question already.

my experience with orange is this....
been with them for a couple years, had a spv e200 then a m1000. i switched to o2 last week because :-
1) had terrible signal at home
2) the m5000 is bloody expensive on orange, paid 90 quid for the exec on o2 business tarrif, 35 quid pm
just my 2 cents

interesting about locking it from 3rd party software .. only ever had standard phones through orange so not come across this before .. currently got an ipaq and want the same freedom to install what I want!
The thing I do like about orange is their customer service .. has always impressed me, and they have always given me good tariffs to keep me with them..

O2 hands down. Orange even puts more crap software and all sort of locking into their phones than O2. I always avoid Vodafone and Orange like plague.

currently with am orange, upgraded from the m1000 to m5000
they give 1000mb data a month for the next tree months and 30 video calls
I paid nothing for my upgrade and am on a £25.00 amonth tariff.
I currently have tomtom 5.1, battary pack pro, pocketweather, tcpmp player
audio recorder, adobe reader, etc
all installed with no problems apart from tomtom 5.1 which involved some twicking.
i have installed all kinds of games for testing and %90 pesent of them worked ok.
i use my pda 80% of the time for Live emails, podcast stuff, downloaded tv episode watching and 20% making calls.
:wink:

toucam said:
O2 hands down. Orange even puts more crap software and all sort of locking into their phones than O2. I always avoid Vodafone and Orange like plague.
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What software does Orange put on? I thought it was just their wheat theme.
Has anyone managed to dump the M5000 rom?

Southern_Man said:
What software does Orange put on? I thought it was just their wheat theme.
Has anyone managed to dump the M5000 rom?
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I have the M5000 - I really want to upgrade my ROM, or at least do something that will speed up my Universal! It has dog-slow response rendering it useless for 50% of the time.
Surely there can't be any software that prevents ROM upgraded? The whole point of a ROM upgrade is that software is wiped. And unless there's any weird SIM interaction, this sounds impossible.
Anyway, I'm slightly worried about doing it, as it would void Orange warranty, and there's no Orange ROM available to put it back on if it goes wrong!
Anyone with more info on the M5000 - come forward, it would be great to hear from you!
TIA
Mat

Disable the orange plugin from the today screen, and also error reporting (if not already)
The orange plugin slows it down, and with it diabled, my m5000 is marvellous!

That sounds good - if Orange only use a plugin, is nice and easy to disable. Sounds better than having to install the O2 EXEC into corporate mode??
Thanks

Newbies finding of the orange M5000

Hi all Just wanted to share my experiance, as newbie as well .
I brought myself Orange M5000 off ebay love it so far. Version running is:
R 1 . 03 . 00
G 42.36.P8
D 1.13.49 WWE
I disabled error reporting as iv read and iv disabled orange today. Got it working over wifi well enough. Tried pocket msn, seems to eat the battery pretty hard. Angil msn seems good though.
Current set up is Magic Button and TCP. Got no memory card yet. Wondering if I should upgrade the os. Reading o2 Corp of the newer orange one. Is it really worth the upgrade?
NetFront seems to be better then IE is there any better until opera is released in Jan? Also is there any good site for getting list of PDA usable Radio or Tv?
I Tried VCU to my desktop so laggy couldnt be used.
Currently running a UK orange sim in it, didnt realise it was locked not bad deal. Orange pay u go sim 3000 sms evenin weekend when u top up 15pm and free orange to orange calls .
Going back to o2 though as cant get good orange signel.
I tried Roxio wirless radio prog as it was recommend but it would play cause no skin met the reselution?
ANyways 2 questions for newbie worth while upgrading my os and what good progs do u guys use.[/code]

Newbie Here!

Hi Everybody!
I'm a newbie here and just wanted to say Hi!
Hopefully , I will get my MDA Vario tomorrow, it is locked to T Mobile (UK) and I hope to unlock it for my o2 SIM.
Currently I have a Nokia 3230.
What do you use your MDA Vario for and what are your dislikes about this model of PDA/phone?
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Hi!
Hello and welcome, you will certainly enjoy using your new vario and this site will certainly help you make the most of it.
I travel ALOT with work so I use it to keep in touch with family / friends by using the WLAN at airports and using Agile Messenger to connect to MSN / ICQ and Yahoo.
I also use the camera to take snaps of any interesting places I see on on my travels so I can then send them to my wife and kids back home.
I purchased a 1gb mini sd on ebay for around 12 pounds so that I can use TomTom and the various maps that are available. Oh, and also I use it as a phone! Sometimes you forget how many things this phone is capable of, but the the phone is certainly one of its strong points. As it is quad band I can use it in Europe, Asia and America so I dont need to keep changing handsets everytime I go away on business.
Oh, and for when my flight is delayed, there is always Windows Media player for your favourite mp3's or audiobooks, and of course the excellent games that are also available.
You will not be dissapointed!! Enjoy!

Hi Nmonger and thanks for your reply!
I've puchased a 1gb mini sd card too.
My current phone has tomtom on it, so I've copied the files onto my PC and hope that I can transfer them to my PDA when it arrives.
I read an article on here which says you can flash the ROM, do I need to do this on mine?
PS. I'd love to see some of your photography and I am a photographer!
If you like flowers and buildings check out :
www.healing2.me.uk and view my online gallery!
Cheers,
Scutter
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You old nokia is a symbian phone. I doubt the same tomtom will work on your new Wizard.

i received my xda mini on monday, so far ive surfed the net, sent emails, sms messages, taken photos, played music and played around with MSWord - connected it to my wireless network, active synced loads of games and apps onto it - ive just bought a 2gig minisd card and bluetooth headset for around £50 from moby (based on a recomendation frmo here)
mark
www.iosilver.co.uk

Thank you for all your replies!
Glad to hear that your getting the most from your PDA/phone.
I wish I knew where to get the cards from, I got a 1 gig from ebay, cost £22 inc delivery.
I'll give the tomtom a try as it doesn't look like it is the original tomtom card (if you know what I mean :wink: )
So, do I need to flash my ROM or as a newbiw, won't I notice any difference? Not that I'm sure why I should "flash my Rom", but it sounds good LOL
I use my Nokia phone for my business and the satnav is good, but I find it very slow with the Symbian software.
Thanks again for ALL you replies
Cheers,
Scutter
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just been to 02's xda site and downloaded the rom upgrades - it says it deletes all data off of the xda - sureley this cant be right?
BTW its taken me all of 2 days to max out the internal storage
Mark

trooperbill said:
just been to 02's xda site and downloaded the rom upgrades - it says it deletes all data off of the xda - sureley this cant be right?
BTW its taken me all of 2 days to max out the internal storage
Mark
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I want to upgrade too and they told me it wipes it. Theres no way I'm going through the hassle of losing all my data and settings. Took me ages to get it how I like it!

W..W...We...Welcome Stutter ,
You're damn right it just sounds cool to Flash your Rom, but what's way cooler is the difference you notice in speed and stuff like that with new Roms instead of (most) of the Stock Roms.
Don't hastitate with questions, everyone here is at your service
Regards,
Molski

Thanks again for the replies!
Your making me feel very welcome!
Molski >
I'm gonna tell everybody that I'm gonna "Flash my ROM" and get the t-shirt too!
Shall I order you one?
Trooper Bill>
Could you please post the link for the grade as hopefully,I will be able to unlock my Wizard and use my O2 SIm in it??????
Cheers Everyone
Scutter
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yup ill ftp it somewhere for you to grab...
if i use a backup system will this restore my apps n stuff after i flash da shizle?
Mark

Thanks Troopr Bill, but sounds abit complex for a newbie? :shock:
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Hi Everybody!!!
I just got mine today.
I have managed to unlock the sim, but can't seem to "flash my ROM"
I get an error message stating that it is not been able to upgrade the "RUU_Prodigy_2170702_21707102_20710_QTEK_WWE_Ship"
Am I doing something wrong?
Also does anybody know how to get the o2 pay as you go MMS and GRPS settings?
Cheers,
Scutter
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SPV M700 and MDA compact 3 TOMTOM nightmare...

I have an SPV M700 (HTC P3600).
I have the following problems with it:
Speaker phone is rubbish, got it set up in the cradle in my car and can hardly hear the person i am talking too. Anyone agree?
GPS!!!!!! TomTom will not work and is driving me know where except slowly insane. Same problem as other post, no mention of GPS in menus and tomtom just says No GPS device! Other post talked about ROMs? Sorry i have no idea what these are or how to install them. Any chance of someone giving me a quick dummies guide. It seems to work for other person having the exact prob.
Most internet pages don't come out too well, expected better from the IE windows mobile. Not used it before, you see.
Purchased unlocking off ebay, don't think its worked. Is there a link to unlocking on this forum?? Will i loose my Orange menu and colours when unlocked.
Keyboard. When i tried this phone out in the shop the keyboard was like a phone pad (press 2 twice for letter B) but can't find on mine, just normal one, transcriber etc??
PLEASE PLEASE spend a minute helping me. I am looking at the MDA compact III on t-mobile but just been told tomtom won't work on it by them. Don't know what speaker phone is like on it either.
Kind regards
George
Nottingham.

George Nottingham...... Relax, get a brew, take a breath..........
First a question.... have you read all that there is here.... and which version of Tom Tom are you trying to run, you need 6.03 an "most" of the problems go away other wise....... go read this lot:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310971
Beofre you start rom-ing read also all of either:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305133
OR
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305250
after reading AT LEAST the first post of each, upgrade the rom, there is an Orange .cab (file thinggy) knockig about to put all your orange setting and front page back on after sorting out the software and getting TT running.
As for the speaker phone... never been happy with mine, but use SoreTooth in stead
More tea and biscuits

Thanks deech for your quick reply. All that talk of tea and relaxing really worked!
Ok i have just checked the tomtom version and is it 6.00. Never i have been so happy that i have out of date software! Only concern is i tried to run Orange's Sat Nav (yes they have there own sat nav that comes sort of free, funny thing is when i rang them up they didn't know they did!). Anyway that didn't pick up a GPS signal either, ummmmm.
What is SoreTooth? Searched for it but can't find anything.
Any luck with my other two moans:
Purchased unlocking off ebay, don't think its worked. Is there a link to unlocking on this forum?? Will i loose my Orange menu and colours when unlocked.
Keyboard. When i tried this phone out in the shop the keyboard was like a phone pad (press 2 twice for letter B) but can't find on mine, just normal one, transcriber etc??
George Nottingham

I've been looking around the site, it look great. No idea what anything means! I'll learn, I guess.
think the keyboard thing i was banging on about is called Phone Pad?
I wonder if i can get WM6 on my orange spv m700....
I can work out how to bluetooth pictures to my mac. Oh no thats another thing to worry about, syncing with my mac! The missing sync looks good?
This is stressful. Remember what deech said George, make a brew!

ahh ummm right.... missed the other moans.........
Right Oranges own Tom Tom thing FORGET IT, get real and proper Tom Tom (from wherever ) It's limited and trial and well frankly not worth the effort.
The Phone pad thing... get PhonePad International (search round these fora) it's here
As for the unlocking....... search round here for CID and ... summat else Unlocking. No if you just unlock, then you wont loose the Orange Branding.. however why you would want that is beyond me... but hey ho.
In Tom Tom have you checked the gps receiver?..... Set it to Other NEMA and com 9 and baud rate... well anything you want from what I can see.
In TTT6.03 there is anew option... "Use Built in Reciever" and after that it ermmmm just works.......
Think I got it all now......... right time for some tea here too
And sorry for the red herring.... soretooth = Bluetooth... can be troublesome on occasion

macmacman said:
I've been looking around the site, it look great. No idea what anything means! I'll learn, I guess.
think the keyboard thing i was banging on about is called Phone Pad?
I wonder if i can get WM6 on my orange spv m700....
I can work out how to bluetooth pictures to my mac. Oh no thats another thing to worry about, syncing with my mac! The missing sync looks good?
This is stressful. Remember what deech said George, make a brew!
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Yes you can, follow the posts I gave earlier and robert will be your mothers brother, I did it, just remeber back up any "special" ring tones, and phone book etc etc, and afterwards grab the Orangesettings.cob, to put the mms gprs etc all back in place

Can't beleive i fell for that! I gave sorethooth a proper search as well. what a plonka. I think it comes with being a novice to all this, it takes over your life a bit and your mind only thinks about tomtom v6!
Ok cheers agian for your help deech, much appreciated.
Just one more thing if you will be so kind.
Now you have equiped me with all the links to keep me up till the weekend, i think i want to hard reset my phone. Didn't like the ebay unlocking thing and hope its hasn't buggered it up. Thinking i could start fresh? Good idea. Maybe just a factory reset?
G

's upto you or just re-flash it and have done with it, tbh I have no experience with unlocking these... now Nokias onthe other hand
Dont think you'll hurt it by doing a Hard Reset, however I dont know if it'll re-lock the phone or what, might be one for a seperate thread?

Hi macmacman- you still need to slow down!
I'd actually go against the grain here and say don't consider flashing your ROM until you are decently competent with Windows Mobile. There isn't a great deal of difference, and the M700 comes with a late version of WM5.
Why did you need to unlock? Are you going to use a different SIM card in it? Some unlockers actually work by replacing the Radio part of the ROM, and some of those are NOT GPS enabled. Go into Settings/System/Device Information and check the Radio version- it must end in .11 for GPS to be enabled. All stock Orange M700's come with GPS enabled. If yours is incorrect you must install un updated Radio stack.
As Deech says, set TTN to either Built-In, or Other NMEA using COM9 and 57600 Baud, then GO OUTSIDE WITH A CLEAR VIEW OF THE SKY to obtain a first fix- it will take up to 10 minutes the 1st time. If TTN has detected your GPS, the status line under the map display will say 'Waiting for Valid GPS Signal' - if you see that you just need to wait till it amalgamates all the sat signals. If you still see 'No GPS Device', then you either have a faulty device, or the Radio ROM isn't working properly.
Either case would be a cause for replacement by Orange- another reason not to flash the ROM, because by doing so you invalidate the warranty.
Keep trying- its worth it!
[Edit- Oh and T-Mob are talking bolox- any WM5 device can run any WM5 program. But, the Compact III is an inferior device- no WiFi, slower processor, and MicroSD card as opposed to MiniSD. Micro cards are slower, and more prone to file system errors]

deech said:
's upto you or just re-flash it and have done with it, tbh I have no experience with unlocking these... now Nokias onthe other hand
Dont think you'll hurt it by doing a Hard Reset, however I dont know if it'll re-lock the phone or what, might be one for a seperate thread?
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A hard reset can be good to clear unwanted operator customisations, especially if you reset before the Operator Customisations start, but with the Orange M700, this can lead to loss of some services, especially Orange World, which is built into the main ROM and Extended ROM. Disabling the horrible Orange Today application is no bad thing though!
Generally once a device is unlocked, it will remain that way through hard resets and even ROM updates, but there are different unlocking methods:
SIM unlock just allows a different operators SIM card to be used (Orange and T-Mo both SIM lock their WM phones)
CID unlock allows other ROM versions to be installed (ie if an Orange device is not CID unlocked, you can only use Orange ROM's)
SPL unlocking changes the Bootloader (akin to the BIOS) to allow any valid ROM to be loaded.
All the Unlock and ROM tools are availiable via the Trinity Wiki on this site- too late for you, but don't go near the Ebay ones as you don't know what you are getting

Ok i have checked my Radio version under Device information and it says 1.16.00.00 so you right that doesn't end in .11 and so my GPS doesn't work. So i need to install un updated Radio stack.
Like you said NeilM the m700 come with .11 so something has changes this? Could have been that dodgy ebay unlocking software? I bet orange will reject my devise if i send it back for that reason!! damn it.
I am thinking of going onto t-mobile for the web and walk package. Actually i don't like the orange menu so don't care if i loose that too.
So i just need to install un updated Radio stack and so a SIM unlock. easier said then done?
Cheers NeilN and deech for your help so far. George

Yes- your 'dodgy' unlock software has corrupted the radio stack.
You first need to 'super CID' your device to allow a new Radio ROM to be added (though as your current radio is non standard this has probably already happened);
Head to This Thread which has links halfway down the 1st page to a CID Unlocker, and Radio 1.41 upgrade.
That ought to work, but make sure to follow ALL the instructions!

Ok I have hard reset my phone, so i am now back to where i started and hopefully there is no trace of my dodgy ebay unlocking rubbish?
First thing i did after resetting is check my Radio version under Device information and it still says 1.16.00.00! That must mean it was shipped to me like that.
Anyway i need to change that to .11 so i have gone to here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305250
and downloaded the 2) Update GSM: GSM_1.41.00.11
Is the right? Sorry for being a dullard if wrong.
Anyway i downloaded it put it in a new folder on my devise then went to it on my devise and it said this is not a valid pocket pc app!
Have i got the wrong file?

No sorry- hard resetting DOES NOT go back to how it was supplied- it goes back to the latest ROM flash, be it the Radio or OS, so you are stuck with the dodgy radio stack until you upgrade it.
I don't know the specifics of the Radio ROM you have downloaded, but 1.41 is the current latest.
The file MUST BE RUN from the PC, with Activesync connected. If your device is correctly unlocked, then it will load into the PPC via A/S and initiate the update process. In the course of that, A/S will stop, and a generic USB connection established.
At that point you may get a 'Cannot Connect' error, and the screen of the Trinity will be multicoloured bars. You now need to run the update file once again, and the ROM Update progres bar should start. If it won't proceed, then you need to take Step 1 from the page you cited, and load the Hard SPL updater, which will allow the Radio update.

Ok its going well, i've managed to change my radio to.11 which i pretty proud of to be honest!
Now then i have tried the terrible orange sat nav just to see if the gps would work and it did! Next i tried my TomTom v6.00 and it didn't work. Do i definately need 6.03?
Feeling more confident now. might upgrade to WM6. If i go hear
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305250
LVSW_Trinity_WM6_v2.0.1.1
HowTo:
1) Update SPL: HARD-SPL
2) Update GSM: GSM_1.41.00.11
3) Update ROM: 20070527_Trinity_WM6_v2.0.1.1
and download 1) 2) and 3) in order will that be ok? Will it get ride of my Orange today menus, hopefully they are a bit annoying!
I also would like Phone Pad international or something that can act like a standard textign phone pad when i am entering text for some reason mine is available to me? Think that might be an Orange thing as my mate has an older HTC and has it on.
Thanks for your quick replies so far, much appreciated.
George

one more thing, i am about to purchase tomtom navigator 6. Jsut rang them up and the version they sell is the latest 6.06. Take it this will be fine considering deech said 6.03?
Thanks

yup, basically in 6.03 they introduced "use built in gps" feature, so should be safe to assume 6.06 will still have this

I've ordered my tomtom software. I've also upgraded to WM6 thanks to that thread all about it. Doing ok for a novice i think.
Last thing to solve is this keypad thing.. had a look for phonepad international but can't find it?
Looking through options on new OS and can't find any options for the keyborad. I now seem to have lost transcriber with WM6 too!?

If you have already bought TTN6.00, you should be able the updated file FOC via TomTom Home, though you will need to pay if you want the latest maps.
Using TTN6.00, in the GPS settings, select Other NMEA Receiver (NOT Other NEA Bluetooth..), then Baud 57600 and connect to COM9
Once those are entered, you should be able to see the main screen status change to 'Waiting for Valid GPS Signal'; the GPS Status screen will have asmall revolving icon at the top right. This proecess can take some time and a clear view of the sky, so be patient!
Google PhonePad International on XDA Devs and you will find the file. It runs well on late WM5 or WM6, but as you found, won't run on the Orange version. It is a bit limited in that it doesn't have word completion, but is useful nonetheless.
Some of the WM6 ROM's omit transcriber, because it uses memory, and few people use it anyway

NeilM said:
Generally once a device is unlocked, it will remain that way through hard resets and even ROM updates, but there are different unlocking methods:
SIM unlock just allows a different operators SIM card to be used (Orange and T-Mo both SIM lock their WM phones)
CID unlock allows other ROM versions to be installed (ie if an Orange device is not CID unlocked, you can only use Orange ROM's)
SPL unlocking changes the Bootloader (akin to the BIOS) to allow any valid ROM to be loaded.
All the Unlock and ROM tools are availiable via the Trinity Wiki on this site- too late for you, but don't go near the Ebay ones as you don't know what you are getting
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Newbie to HTC devices. I'm familiar with ETEN X500/WM5/WM6 etc, ROM flashing by card and all that jazz, but CID/SPL I don't know yet, so:
does SPL unlocking also cause CID & SIM unlocking? Or does each operation need to be done consecutively, if so any order?
what does CID & SPL stand for anyway, please?
and can the sat locations be updated via internet, like HP and ETEN etc ?
The reason for this is I'm waying an HTCP3600 against yet-to-be released ETEN X800