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Since I bought my Polaris, a decision between Polaris vs Kaiser based on form factor more than anything and the fact that I didnt think the keyboard was that necessary, I've noticed that the Kaiser seems to be more highly regarded than the Polaris,
Maybe its me, but isnt the Polaris similar specs to the Kaiser???
I also dont understand why the 3D issue seems to be addressed on the Kaiser but not the Polaris - is there different hardware involved?
The Kaiser was here before the Polaris, so this issue was here bevor the Polaris.
But i can't understand why a such thick and ugly device can have so many buyers.
Borizli said:
The Kaiser was here before the Polaris, so this issue was here bevor the Polaris.
But i can't understand why a such thick and ugly device can have so many buyers.
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the keypad is what a lot is users want.
Its cheap with contract, my friend got it for $60 bucks, its well featured for a phone, and keyboard is great for text-ers, plus this phone use commonly along with the wing and blackberrys as a buissness phone. While the polaris is to me niche market phone since its marketing aspect is a eye pleasing form factor and gps. Plus intially at launch it was around $700 USD so it didnt garner much attention compared to the tilt which was subsidized through AT&T and other carriers.
See I was reading this thread: Polaris vs Kaiser
and granted it was in the Polaris forum (!) so it probably had more polaris owners, but the general consensus seems to be its a matter of choice (keyboard vs smaller form factor) but most users seem to agree the Polaris was a better choice mostly i think because of its touchflo performance which I've read in a number of threads, that its a bit of an after-thought on the kaiser and poorly implemented.
But then there's the issue of the 3D drivers which seem to work on the Kaiser but not on the Polaris...
The real reson it's so much more popular is because of AT&T in the United States.
Being that AT&T is the largest mobile provider in the United States they have pushed the AT&T Tilt aka Kaiser. The AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) has been very affordable per say in the United States, which is why it's so popular with US customers.
Around the world the Kaiser is sold by every major mobile provider. Also making it more popular.
The only way for me to buy a Polaris in the United States is to buy one without a contract which would be far more expensive then buying a Kaiser with a contract.
So the reason it's so popular is because of how much supply and availability there is and the price with a contract from a mobile provider.
Well I suppose thats a pretty clear answer - so thank you alltheway
So ARE there any spec differences between the two (minus keyboard of course) and if not why wont the htc class action 3D drivers work? I read on the kaiser forum that the Polaris is missing a .dll file but surely that should not be too much of a problem? or am I thinking too simplistically?
HTC said in an official report that the slow 3d performance is more than just a missing DLL file, which I personally think is bogus, because all they have to do is bridge the gap between MS's Direct3D/OpenGL and the hardware. They claim they'd have to do more software development than its worth, so they're not pressing forward in that area, but they are releasing 3D performance fixes now, and one ROM cook, udK, is baking that solution into his next ROM release for the Polaris.
So officially there is a solution out there for the Polaris?
Source http://sonyericssonxperiax1.blogspot.com/
Sunday, 28 September 2008
Latest Buzz On Xperia
With all the excitement leading up to the release of the Xperia X1 there have been many new videos posted by people who were able to attend the recent showcase events of the upcoming release by Sony Ericcson.
There has been a lot of news circulating since Sony Ericcson issued the official September 30, 2008 date for the UK, Sweden, and Germany. For instance, one common question is about the release date in America, which has now been confirmed as being released on Nov. 3, 2008 by the American Sony Ericcson representatives. (Up until now most of the information on the xperia x1 has come from the UK)
Many people may also be interested in knowing that it has been confirmed that the xperia x1 will be released in both silver and black by the crew at the official Sony Ericcson blog website. As of right now, there are no plans to release the Smartphone in any other colors, but if this bothers you than you are probably forgetting about the multitude of skins that are sure to hit markets after the phone does.
Another notable piece of news from the xperiancers website is that the Xperia X1 comes equipped with a very sophisticated chipset so that movies and film clips uploaded or recorded on the upcoming Sony Ericcson phone will be viewable in DVD quality.
This speaks highly of the time and effort that went into making the xperia x1, and helps soothe the pain of how long we have been waiting for its release.
Additionally, the SE Xperia X1 will come loaded with an ATI 3D gaming chip so it can support very high level games. Thus, for those of you who were wondering if the X1 would permit you to support your World of Wars, gaming habits, you can rest at night knowing the Xperia creators had your best interests in mind.
Plus, for those on the other end of the spectrum, who have been wondering about the musical abilities of the Sony Ericsson Xperia X1, there is still no news about rather the new Sony Play multimedia downloader will be supported.
However, the good news is that a BT speaker accessory will be immediately available for purchase so you can use your phone to its max mp3 abilities soon after purchase. (That is if you have any cash left!)
In fact, if you have the cash there are some more prominent accessories you may want for your new xperia x1 including a travel charger, hands free headset, extra battery, and a speakerphone. You can check out some pictures of the accessories here if you wish. One thing you will notice about all the accessories is that they are just as streamlined as the Xperia X1 itself!
Would like to know the differences between UK and USA version for folks who don't have patient to wait. (Support GSM 850 and AT&T's 3G?)
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For instance, one common question is about the release date in America, which has now been confirmed as being released on Nov. 3, 2008 by the American Sony Ericcson representatives.
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haha.
confirmed by who??
by the American Sony Ericcson representatives
Atleast that's what it says.
they also said this!
"According to a Sony Ericsson rep at the CTIA Wireless trade show today, the X1 will not have separate European and US hardware versions, so the UK model will work well in the US."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2330159,00.asp
But wait, I'm confused. I thought that the original comment that Sony Ericsson stated was that it was coming out 9-30-08 for UK and Sweden and sometime late December for Asia and sometime in Q1 2009 for America?
This is just getting too confusing. I would more expect the Q1 2009 for America because when have we ever gotten something as quick as 33 days after the UK (when it comes to phones).
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But wait, I'm confused. I thought that the original comment that Sony Ericsson stated was that it was coming out 9-30-08 for UK and Sweden and sometime late December for Asia and sometime in Q1 2009 for America?
This is just getting too confusing. I would more expect the Q1 2009 for America because when have we ever gotten something as quick as 33 days after the UK (when it comes to phones).
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November 3rd is the day they will announce when the USA version will be released.
That's what it looks like.
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November 3rd is the day they will announce when the USA version will be released.
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oh, well that makes it much easier. I guess I'm gonna wait till then and I was so close to buying the fuse.
I just ordered mine throught Expansys 10 minutes ago, and paid in full via PayPal.
Now the real test of patience begins...
Hopefully I'll have it in my hands in a week or two max!
why does it take so much longer for phones to come out in the USA?...
seriously, **** the FCC.
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why does it take so much longer for phones to come out in the USA?...
seriously, **** the FCC.
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You know they're watching you.
im glad. I would like them to know how i feel about waiting so long for the x1!
Hah, it's not the FCC's fault, the AT&T Fuze was approved by FCC a long time ago. Why isn't it here? You can thank HTC/AT&T for that one.
Hey there.I am really interested in thid brand.I,d really like to have one.But I dont know much abouy its price.plz help me.and also i want to know about the life of its battery.Is it cool?or like diamond?
what diamond not good ?
The HD is sold at around 650 Euro in Belgium I heard.
+ 1000 USD - approx 28-29.000 Taiwan Dollar - 7.500 Hong Kong Dollar.
Not taken in account conversion rate but price index of last HTC devices sold around here in Asia.
You can see loads of info related to Prices, locations, release dates etc in the BlackStone vendor wiki http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Vendors
If anyone knows more dates and prices say it here
the life of its bbattery is not very good.it dies as soon as possible.and also the body of the cellphone gets dirty soon.
tanx 4 your replies all.keep smiling
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the life of its bbattery is not very good.it dies as soon as possible.and also the body if he cellphone gets dirty soon.
tanx 4 your replies all
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It seems odd that you would say this while like nobody on the planet owns a final version yet. Second, neither the casing nor the battery are equal to that of the Diamond.
Differences: Diamond has a 900MAh battery and the HD has 1350MAh which is equal to that of the Raphael. This gives you 50% more power and according to the specifications this indeed results in the added 50% which I almost agree with. Almost being that the processor and radios are the same as on the Diamond so should consume the same amount of power and that would make 50% increase accurate. However the screen is so much bigger that I doubt it, I expect nothing more than an increase of 35% - 40% and still that's welcome.
Now that my Diamond is configured properly and has the latest software, battery consumption is much lighter and I can easily last a day and a half with it, using regular mailing, some internet and some calling. When only calling, it lasts me two days. Turning it off during the night ups it to three days. A 50% bigger battery would make it last over 4 days in that manner, let's say 2.5 at heavier usage.
Second difference is the back of the unit, which is mostly matte and not glossy, making it much less fingerprint prone (only the front side needs to be polished all the time lol). IPhone and many other touch phones get dirty just as easily. What do you prefer? A matte screen would look worse and scratch much easier because it has a texture.
Looks like avg pricing in the Netherlands will be around 570 euros, which is nice Somehow the Raphael sells for over 600 everywhere in the NL...
In Mexico it will cost $1,400US!!!!!! and it will arrive till next year........
I am sure not buying here.......I asked a friend travelling to London to bring me one cheaper.
If only HD can have a keyboard!!!!
$1400 us?! wow... Tough bargain I just updated the Centralpoint release date as it keeps being pushed (29 oct now contrary to the 21 oct initially), probably to trick people into preordering from them. I guess they won't ship before the first week of November either, like the other NL shops.
Is there any seller in Usa for this phone
thxs
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Is there any seller in Usa for this phone
thxs
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Check here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Vendors
the blackstone is at 649,96 € on this french website : rueducommerce.fr/
it's not so expansive when you compare to the price of Xperia (780€)
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If only HD can have a keyboard!!!!
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just what I thought, this device is absolutely perfect, will be the next Kaiser / Polaris (I think in terms of popularity they´re comparable).
If HTC just released a keyboard version as well...although, there´s the Touch Pro. And imagine, Touch Pro even bigger and heavier, wouldn´t even fit into my pockets *loool*
In Germany it will cost 619,- euros on Amazon.de
http://www.amazon.de/HTC-Blackstone...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=ce-de&qid=1223587885&sr=8-1
I sent my Touch Pro back, if I get my money back I will buy this one
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just what I thought, this device is absolutely perfect, will be the next Kaiser / Polaris (I think in terms of popularity they´re comparable).
If HTC just released a keyboard version as well...although, there´s the Touch Pro. And imagine, Touch Pro even bigger and heavier, wouldn´t even fit into my pockets *loool*
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hahaha LOL
For me using a beautifull/solid/big brick Universal won`t be a problem!
Hope HD w/key can be a reality!
P.d. By the way, Uni fit on my back pocket
I got a Diamond and on that I could really like a keyboard, the additional RAM/SD card slot/etcetera but I liked the Diamond form factor so much I went for that. The Diamond however is very small and as such typing on a keyboard is much easier than on the screen.
The HD however, sports such a huge screen that there is much less need for a keyboard. Also, I think the target audience of the HD really differs from that of the Pro, it is much more iPhone-esque than it is a corporate tool.
for the last few weeks I've just been planning on getting it here: http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php?xProd=1464
£466.98 with US shipping (and tax) included.
what do you guys reckon this is in USD?
i gotta be honest tho, with a device:
being this fast,
having such a large screen,
having such a sharp screen, and
having such a sensitive screen....
so long as I keep using the skin htctoucher and i created for pcmk....i think I can honestly say that I will never even miss a hardware kb for a second.
I had a mogul for a while, then went to vogue (slow, unsensitive, small screen), and i only rarely wish i had a hardware keyboard...
jim256 said:
for the last few weeks I've just been planning on getting it here: http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php?xProd=1464
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have you or anyone had experience importing RF devices into the states? I know the customs/FCC are very strict on importing such devices. I read somewhere someone (importer or exporter) need to declare the FCC ID on the form, if not the devices gets confiscated (that is, not returned to the sender). I am looking to import touch HD, but don't want to lose 800+ dollars.
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have you or anyone had experience importing RF devices into the states? I know the customs/FCC are very strict on importing such devices. I read somewhere someone (importer or exporter) need to declare the FCC ID on the form, if not the devices gets confiscated (that is, not returned to the sender). I am looking to import touch HD, but don't want to lose 800+ dollars.
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hmmm no i personally have not looked into that, but I guess I will be before putting my order in! thx for the heads up
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have you or anyone had experience importing RF devices into the states? I know the customs/FCC are very strict on importing such devices. I read somewhere someone (importer or exporter) need to declare the FCC ID on the form, if not the devices gets confiscated (that is, not returned to the sender). I am looking to import touch HD, but don't want to lose 800+ dollars.
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The best way to do that is asking a friend travelling to bring it for you, that way you don´t pay any cent.
Importing I´m sure depends of the qty. of devices you bring, if it´s only one, taxes won´t be that much. And US customs have a trusty/esay way of doing things.
I am just wondering how many Xperia X1 have been sold out all over the world ?
Is the number somewhere near 1 mil ?
CAn we safely assume that 10% of all users on XDA have an X1?
I would not assume that 10% of all XDA-Dev members have an Xperia X1.
I dont know how often this phone is sold but when I look how many people
are currentlyviewing the phone threads the Touch HD is always best visited.
Greets,
p.s. used google? Once I saw a news that showed the numbers...
remember a while ago SE announce that the XPERIA was selling "well" said sony
hehe , 10% is a great success for Sony if its true ^^.
But as i can see , the X1 section on XDA have a quite large amount of posts and page-view ,though X1 is quite new , so the number of X1 must not be small
Bump for "I want to know too".
I doubt it's very high.
I have recently noted it being promoted in Carphone Warehouse in the UK, which is a very positive development. Not sure if the subsidized prices in the UK are enough to move a lot of units...???
Can't comment on most of the rest of the world. Not sold through any carriers in North America, though rumoured to be coming on Rogers this sooner (not sure if that's still valid).
It will get killed by the Touch Pro 2 soon...
i live in New York City, amd i havent met one person whom has an x1...and i also work for At&t and see tons of phones from EU and Japan, but 0 x1's
go figure...
i do have 1 though.
X1 sold
Hi everybody,
I already met 6 people here in Cologne Germany having one and two more telling they would get one when their contracts will be due.
Since it is rather expensive that is understandable.
I hope it spreads more - I really like the combination.
im in the uk (isle of wight - small island at the bottom)
and i have 2 other friends that have it.
so thats 3 people including me that i know have it here (and thats just close friends) so i think in the uk its sell well.
i think its probally not selling as well in the us as it is in europe
the x1 would have to be the biggest flop ever.... i have not ever seen one other person with an x1 and i travel between sydney, brisbane and melbourne often. not 1!
worst $1500AUD i ever spent and i feel ripped off by SE.
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the x1 would have to be the biggest flop ever.... i have not ever seen one other person with an x1 and i travel between sydney, brisbane and melbourne often. not 1!
worst $1500AUD i ever spent and i feel ripped off by SE.
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u did get ripped off. worked it out that $1500aud works out £750 in real money. u can buy a new sim free x1 in black for £400 or in silver for £450 online in the uk and only £550 if u buy it in a shop on the high street. u paid well over the top for it.
here in SWE, i've seen quite a lot since it was launched back in Oct.
Just to assist anyone who is maybe holding out for the higher spec model outside of the USA - some insider non-news for you from the horses mouth:
QUESTION:
Dear HTC,
Are any of the UK mobile networks now providing the new version of the HTC HD2 that was recently released to T-Mobile USA (namely 'HD2b').
I believe this is physically identical except for the 1GB ROM instead of 512MB on the existing UK/Europe spec devices.
Do HTC envisage that this new spec device would generally replace the lower version once existing UK stock is sold through? Or are HTC genuinely continuing to manufacture two subtly different specs of the same device for Europe and USA regions until it is end-of-life.
Your time and advice would be very much appreciated.
Kind regards,
Adam R. Hirshfield
Information Systems Security Senior Specialist - Networks
T-Mobile (UK) Ltd.
RESPONSE:
Dear Adam
Thank you for contacting us.
In regards to HD2
I can help you with that.
The uk will continue to get the original model as released the other version you mentioned was negotiated for one of our partners and was specific for them. It is a bit like the G1 only being available on t-mobile
I trust that this resolves your query, please do not hesitate to contact us again if required.
Thank you for contacting HTC.
Best regards,
HTC
So there you have it. Unfortunately it's not news to be T-lighted about - Sorry.
Either emigrate to the States, jump-in with the existing spec UK/Euro model, move on to a Desire or await (ages) for the GSM version of the EVO. My personal preference would be in that exact order.
Though the HD2 vs. Desire is quickly becoming a very tough decision. WinMo vs. Android debates aside, so thinking hardware only; The Desire's AMOLED display is gorgeous and it really is quite sizeable. It's exactly the same resolution, and colour and brightness really are superior on this one. But it is never as impressive in sheer scale of the HD2's wicked monolithic screen.
Arrrgh maybe that's why we have two pockets?...
All the best XDA-devs,
Hirshy
I don't really know what to do now either... But definitely not desire I can't downgrade the screen would be such a massive difference, rest of hardware seems really competitive though. I quite fancy the Evo but is not even annouced to UK. Is a tough decision, no doubt I can upgrade to Iphone through vodafone, but that'd be the last thing I'd do, and definitely not WP7S. Anyone can clarify xd...