Howdy -
I am having difficultly *completely* removing my system tray. I get close by
"Removing the system tray just delete the init_tray.lnk from the windows\startup folder on your device and soft reset."
But I have one application, Intellisync Mobile Suite, that installs itself onto the system tray.
Stuck!
Searching the forums has left me high and dry.
Anyone figure out how to completely remove the system tray yet?
Try DciNoBar. A search of the forums will lead you to the thread with the download cab file
newbie2: Are you sure that works?
I tried it about one month ago for a similar problem (emoze), and it did not do the job. The active program icon for emoze forced the tray no matter what (not including Wisbar).
EDIT: I'll try DciNoBar again tomorrow and report back.
Yeah, I tried that, and vjtoggletodayiialpha.exe They didn't take care of the task tray....
I removed the init_tray from the Windows\Startup directory. (I actually cut and pasted it to the storage card for future use). Then, I installed DciNoBar to the Windows\Startup directory. This is what I got (see screenshot)
Yeah, but I have an app, Intellisync, that puts a icon on the task tray despite these programs/procuedures.
I can get close, but still end up with one icon.
I'm poking around the intellisync app and registry settings hoping I can find a way to turn that off...
VJToggleToday doesn't touch the tray. I ran out of time before finishing the app.
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"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I've got a few things to finish before looking at this app again. DciNoBar is the standard recommendation.
V
Thanks, V.
Looks like I'm out of luck.
It would be a great feature to build right into PhoneAlarm, actually.
I wonder if it's even possible, seeing as applications seem to be able to spawn a system tray icon all by themselves.
kayakpete: that's not quite the same concept. That's like saying that because I can eat sausages, surely I should be able to conjure the stuff of raw life with my bare hands.
Making tray icons is easy, standard API.
Removing the tray is not a standard OS supported feature, it requires some work in overriding the OS's expected functionality. Not particularly difficult work, but not standard nor associated in any way with the creation of those icons.
Or sausuages. I'm hungry, it's dinner time
V
PS I hope that Bruce doesn't add this feature to PhoneAlarm. PhoneAlarm is going the way of WisBar, bloat land. It's a beautiful app but hasn't worked well for me for some time. Bruce does a lot of great apps, so if he does it, better he makes it a free add-on, not part of the base code.
Mmmm... sausage....
Well, I'm not sure I follow your sausage-life analogy, but I'll go with it!
I was thinking that tray removal may night be a straight forward API/OS thing, and you have confirmed that.
And I totally agree with you. It would be a shame to see phonealarm suffer from bloat. There are several applications I simply won't run due to that very reason!
So I think the best idea is to pursue the possibility of getting my Intellisync application to NOT place a icon in the task tray.
Thanks again!
I long for a solution to this too... even changing the keys for KEEP and "reloadclient" to 0 does nothing... goes right back to one on the soft reboot. I'm ready to give up on this app altogether and find a replacement to manage my pim stuff wirelessly. That one icon takes up an obscene amount of my real estate.
Are you saying this is a specific problem with this app?
V
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Ok,
I am not sure if any of you have switched your devices from Portrait to Landscape recently, but give it a try and you will see how the Recent Programs are displayed in Portrait we all know they go under the user defined icons in the start menu, but in Landscape they are all listed at the top alot neater than making your start menu list go across the screen. I searched the registry yesterday trying to see if any values changed with no luck. So can one of you guys like Buzz or Mamiach or someone take a look into it???
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I'm also desperately keen for a hack to fix this - it's very messy having the long list, and quite disorientating.
I put the whole registry into word and spent a fair bit of time seqarching for something that could have looked like a meaningful key - nada. It's probably hard coded
craigiecraigie4 - this is likely to be coded into the menu routine - when the list would create a menu > screen height, it reverts to the cuter menu.
I can't think of any way to hack into this without hacking the underlying routines. I doubt this is in the registry, but calculated dynamically.
Why not use smallmenu? it's better...
V
the ipaq 4155 I had used to do this stright out of the box, even without switching to Landscape.. that was windows Mobile 2003 (not SE).
It seems 2003 kept the most recently opened progs on the top hirizontally. 2003SE does this in the center of the start menu instead.
2003SE (on AximX50v)
http://65.185.35.123/dp_chobits_chi1_a.jpg
2003 (not SE on ipaq4155)
http://65.185.35.123/dp_miyu_2_a.jpg
I'll see what i can dig up.
vijay555 said:
Why not use smallmenu? it's better...
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Correction - it's MUCH better...
I am using WA with WAD, but I really like to limit my programs to necessity rather than GUI. I don't want to install to many programs on my PDA2K I like to keep it clean
alfredtv - if you're using wisbar, why do you need the startmenu at all?
SmallMenu is a fair alternative to wisbar if you only need what it offers.
I think the startmenu is near useless, and loathe it being there even when I don't need it. That's what prompted me to make my ToggleToday hacks
With SmallMenu correctly configured you shouldn't need the startmenu at all.
(note settings submenu, favorites submenu, special tools, custom icons on subfolders etc)
I took it to an extreme and made a toggle-able StartMenu, ToggleToday and new bar all in one:
However I've had a thought about a possible way to achieve the "mini-start menu". I might play around with an idea. No promises though, lots of other things to do.
V
I have read about your hacks on the other forums, and was thinking about trying them out.
Do they work with WM5 now??
I am using WA because their is no way to change the recent programs to a different location/remove them all together. I would not use them if there was a way to do this.
As I said before I prefer to not use additional programs, but at this point have no chioce. In WM5 M$ should really have thought about adding cascading menus to the Start button, that would have been great.
alfredtv - I haven't checked my hacks properly on WM5. The hiding the start bar bit does work for ToggleToday on WM5. It won't however hide the tray from the Today screen yet, because I don't have a WM5 device to test on.
If you're only using Wisbar as a startmenu replacement, give smallmenu a go. There is a free version. I've never had any problems with it.
V
Why? Because it useless and it ocupies a line of space that could be used by a today plugin!!!
TrayDisplay is what you need!!! Built with ATL C++, it comes in two files:
HideTray: that makes tour system tray invisible;
DisplayTray: that makes tour system tray visible!!
It makes a shortcut on your \Windows\StartUp folder so that everytime you reset your PPC, it will hide the tray!
When the file is run, it makes it's job and then end's so that it doesn't stay in memory.
This file is not a patch, but an application!
Only works with Windows Mobile 2005!
Hope I'll get some feedback
19/11/2005 (1.0.0.2)
Bug fixed: screen rotation, then execute TrayDisplay would make the height of the plugins to be wrong!
18/11/2005 (1.0.0.1)
First release!
Thanks !
Works very well on my M5000...
Sorry... It don't work on WM2003 SE.
Iomega said:
Works very well on my M5000...
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I've detected a bug when rotating the screen; I'll work on it later and post a new version!
MKS said:
Sorry... It don't work on WM2003 SE.
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I was expecting that...
Release 1.0.0.2
Fixed screen rotation bug.
I tried this program out on my Jasjar and it did not re-size correctly when the screen was rotated. This was on the .2 version.
FYI,
Boinger
Boinger said:
I tried this program out on my Jasjar and it did not re-size correctly when the screen was rotated. This was on the .2 version.
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It doen't! The problem is, since the application runs, hides the tray and resizes the plugins and then end's, when you rotate the screen you have to manualy run the app again :?
I just installed it and it created the icons in program menu and the HideTray in StartUp folder
But when I reset my Universal the TrayBar is visibile... if I then launch the HideTray icon from the program folder the TrayBar hides...
Why doesn't it hide at startup?
Can you make it work with 2003SE. I am sure there are lot of people will appriciated your work.
harryphung said:
Can you make it work with 2003SE. I am sure there are lot of people will appriciated your work.
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I think it's possible, i'll try to do that and post the results here later
It's works on my Wizerd (i-Mate K-JAM), the icons gone but the space not reclame back, it this normal? if so I think it is better if you can move the Unlock function to this line and the user name too so we can save space on the screen (optional). but if we can gain the line to be part of the screen it is much better option.
Thanks,
harryphung;
Have you seen my ToggleToday program for WM2003?
It's been there for 3 months!
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Also, here for the ability to relocate the tray and toggle fullscreen today and some other hacks (alpha release)
Using the app to ghost reminders on WM2003
V
I was sure I had seen something for WM2003 somewere!!
ei99070: I'll be updating it to WM2005 at some point, just too busy right now; my version has to be compatible with a couple of other programs I'm writing (a today plugin called VJTodaySpacer), and then making it both WM2005 and WM2003 is a bit of a headache. I need a clear head to get around it!
Are you hiding or resizing the child?
V
vijay555: Hiding!
I tried just resizing, but rotating the screen set it to normal size again... ShowWindow API seems to do the job correctly!
I assume your app is always running on background, correct?
ei99070 - is your app memory resident or one off?
WM2003 compatibility took some work because the newbar and sip are a little interdependant. WM5 is a bit nicer for that:
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vijay555: true!! It as very easy to find the windows!
But I can tell you now, SIP and the Soft Button bar are independ on Windows Mobile 2005 to...
My app does it's stuff and closes, but that creates a problem: when you rotate the screen it resizes the area available for the plugin's to the original size, but mantains the tray hidden!
ei99070 I'll investigate it at some point soon. That's why I asked if you're memory resident, because polling or hooking the system, or possibly patching in memory, is the only way to prevent this I think. But they're quite bad solutions for stability and resources.
v
I agree, I think that hooking the rotation event will be the better way to avoid this behavior... :?
Great stuff!!
I whas looking for this long time!!
Hi
I've been looking hard with no success.
How to remove the status line from the Today screen in Qtek 9100/WM5.0. It shows WiFi and Battery status - which I don't need here - while taking the precious space...
Any idea?
Help please!
Sorry to post again here but I can't believe that there is nobody suffering from this and that there is nobody who has solved the issue until now.
There are so many Today screen plug-ins that show the information, not to mention the information is useless here - I believe.
Please let me know if it's me being a mega-geek finding ways to make something better or the answer is so simple that nobody bothers to post.
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if it is that important to you - here's your solution: remove Init_Tray.lnk from "\windows\start up", restart and you are done.
did i help you? then recommend me
cheers, lutz
Thats not what makes the tray. That program adds the Wifi and battery bar. You have to take out any program that uses the tray. If a program uses the tray , then the tray is automatically created.
isn't that exactly what the guy has there? why do you jump in here? if you have any other problem than kristo_ch feel free to ask....
cheers, lutz
Shame on me. So simple. Thanks lutzh.
simple if you know it. i always erase anything in start up in the first trials. trouble here was that i haven't got it back when i wanted it back
cheers, lutz
lutzh said:
isn't that exactly what the guy has there? why do you jump in here? if you have any other problem than kristo_ch feel free to ask....
cheers, lutz
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Perhaps the self proclaimed "guru" is jealous he didn't know the answer (although it's not a complete solution, as some apps like PI will bring it back, but it's a start - thanks lutz!).
i totally agree with you!!!!!!
cheers, lutz
I don't get what's going on. Why aren't people playing nice?
The Tray can be made to not be present, by removing all tray-able apps.
However, the tray can be programmatically brute force hidden if required, even if full of apps.
V
vijay555 said:
I don't get what's going on. Why aren't people playing nice?
The Tray can be made to not be present, by removing all tray-able apps.
However, the tray can be programmatically brute force hidden if required, even if full of apps.
V
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Is that something you've written, V?
Hell yeah!
Working on putting it into usable form for you guys, not quite finished yet:
QVGA:
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
VGA:
This is hiding the tray and minimising the soft keys down to 2 pixels at the bottom. For those who like it tidy.
I'll optionally minimise the start bar to 2 pixels as well.
V
thats cool!!!!
the rest above is only fun, i don't want to harm anyone at all!
cheers, lutz
vijay555 said:
Hell yeah!
This is hiding the tray and minimising the soft keys down to 2 pixels at the bottom. For those who like it tidy.
I'll optionally minimise the start bar to 2 pixels as well.
V
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Is this already released??
topcaser: No not yet... I'm working on it between lots of other things, but it needs to be compatible with WM5 and WM2003 and they both require very different techniques. WM5 version is done though, but not released:
V
255%
Hey VJ,
I too want a battery which I can charge beyond 100%!!! ;-)
I would have to adjust the e_stat app to show it though....
yeah, 255% battery is cool. You can see into the future. it's cold though, -5 degrees C
V
How do you get 100%. If I read the batstat I get a percentage.
And where did you get the temperature from?
Bye,
Thijs.
Doezel: temperature is built into the battery, from the battery api.
I don't understand the "100%" battery.
The 255% is coming just from the emulator having fits!
V
VJ:
I get it. I use evc4, and use getbatterylifepercent, which returns a value between 0 and 100. It's not a byte.
Which IDE do you use?
Does anyone know of a program that allows you to skin the Taskbar? I have tried using Wisbar, but it uses too much memory and bogs down my system.
It would be great if there was a quicker program that used less memory. And I don't care about the other features Wisbar has, I just want to skin the Taskbar and the Start menu button.
I guess not!
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Does anyone know of a program that allows you to skin the Taskbar? I have tried using Wisbar, but it uses too much memory and bogs down my system.
It would be great if there was a quicker program that used less memory. And I don't care about the other features Wisbar has, I just want to skin the Taskbar and the Start menu button.
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But it is the skinning that uses the memory and slows down the device.
None of the other features of Wisbar Advance 2 are memory-intensive at all.
Any application that skins your device will be a memory hog, period.
By taskbar, you mean the top bar right?
One kinda solution that isn't cpu intensive is to use my VJToggleToday II app (in alpha release right now though) to replace the start bar.
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"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
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vijay555 said:
By taskbar, you mean the top bar right?
One kinda solution that isn't cpu intensive is to use my VJToggleToday II app (in alpha release right now though) to replace the start bar.
V
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Dude, that looks ****ing sweet; I have been waiting with great anticipation for it ever since I first heard about it!
Is it skinnable?
VJToggleToday merely shifts the Today Screen, allowing you to show your today plugins through - so I'm using my PhoneAlarm skin at the top of the screen to adjunct the start bar.
I haven't worked on VJEphemeris or VJSihaya (the more 'evolved' version of the idea) for months - I wrote them both as a proof of concept idea, but since then I've decided to put off further development until I feel competent to tackle all of the things I want to put into it. Both are evidently (overly) skinnable.
I've been working on a new app for a while, it's completely innocent, just a simple text editor, but it's a testbed for features that I'm going to be using in my new apps (ie a new skinning engine and GUI). That's (realistically) coming soon.
V
vijay555... what other apps do you use on your today screen? The bottom half looks like you havea last call and last email displaying on your today, correct?
itesla: that's an old plugin I wrote once, but it's not been released yet. It's called VJEphemeris. I'm taking a break from it while I learn some new stuff, so that I can add the new features I want to it.
It does show missed calls and previews received SMSs etc. There are many hidden popup menus etc, but as I said, that'll all change in the final version, if and when I get around to finishing it!
V
Hey Vijay, I have been using your ToggleToday program in conjunction with PhoneAlarm. I really like it, but there are a couple things that I miss: the clock, and the OK button.
I was wondering, would it be possible for me to use one of those third-party button programs like MagicButton or vBar, and then move over the signal status?
For the clock, I wasn't sure if there was any possible solution, unless PhoneAlarm has a feature that allows you to display it.
I believe PhoneAlarm has a clock feature built in now, you can certainly edit the skin to include one.
I never use the ok button in the corner, I use VJOkButt 100% of the time, and that's compatible with 3rd party task managers that use the ok button.
I don't quite understand about "move over the signal status". How do you mean?
Something to consider, which I have't tried but should work, is to use a phonealarm skin with transparency - if you leave a gap in your phone alarm skin, where the original clock is - you might be able to allow the original "start bar" to shine through the gap...
But anyway, PhoneAlarm does have a clock feature, I believe.
V
Like the title says - is there any way or some small utility to apply background image for top and/or bottom bars? (I know You can't make them simply transparent).
I have tried Wisbar, rlToday etc, they are all either doing too much on the side, consuming way too much memory or just buggy. I've also searched this forum but as the bars have too many names (top bar, taskbar, menu bar, start bar etc.) I've come up with nothing really...
What I would like to achieve is something like this (image from ultimatelaunch.de):
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Please help.
i asked that before
it is another tool by the ultimate launch author called skinmobile:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1916467&postcount=28
OK, thanks!!!
I'll look into it later (or tomorrow) as I don't have my device with me atm. But it sure seems what I am looking for considering what I have seen and that it's small
you can also use vijay555's todayToggle to remove either or both of them, and just show the background image.
who really needs the bottom bar anyway, if someone can't remember what the two (big number) launches are, what are they doing playing around with ppcs?
it's a tiny exe (9.5kb) that you can leave in your windows\startup folder.
Then edit the registry to choose the size, the exe basically shrinks the bars to 2pixels but you can choose any size you want
Okay, thanks for the tip!!!
By the way - I've seen screenshots of taskbars with icons representing running applications just like in normal desktop PC. Besides MagicButton and WKTask and maybe Wisbar (not sure), are there any other apps (small) or registry hacks that do this? It seems that all these applications address a multiple changes in the system, I am trying to locate utilities that do just that one little thing - show running application icons on taskbar (next to start button).
i use wktask and set it to do absolutely nothing except show the running tasks.
it does'nt seem to me that it slows down or causes any problems
OK, thanks for the tip! Gone try it that way.
By the way Skinmobile is buggy on my WM6, so that app kind of sucks...
yes its a bit buggy but you can edit the ini file and graphics and try a bit around. i had it running without any problems on wm6.1
Naah, I'll just leave it to that and wait for better apps. The "see-thru" effect isn't worth it, if its buggy. For me at least. The buggyness seems to appear when I click on any of the taskbar icons. Although I didn't do a soft reset after running the prog. Should have I done it? Would it change anything?