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Is it possible to move Help Files (.htm) to the SD Card ??

My help files are taking up quita lot of RAM in my Windows folder - would they still work if placed on SD card, similar to how Memaid moves DLL's ??

I moved all help files to SD card and placed a shortcut of the help folder where it was and it works great.

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but why this work? with this solution i gain only 1,2 KB!!!!!!

I tried that... But I can't move all help files in \Windows dir. ( hidden files)
it says.. ROM is protected ( or something like that )
I got around 250 KB free .... not bad I guess...
but if I can remove all help files I'll get around 1 MB
do u have any idea :?:

anybody knows how to delete these read only help files!??

if they're ROM files then they're not taking any room that you can gain back unless you cook your own ROM without them.
V

wouldn´t I get more storage from the ROM?

not from the ROM - you can't shrink the rom except by making a new rom, which AFAIK isn't possible yet on Magician. Best bet for space is to use cabinst to install all programs to Storage/Storage Card, and use MemMaid etc to move many dlls to Storage, and use BigRom hack for extra space. That'll make you much more than a few k from the HTML files.
V

Already got bigstorage. MenMaid is worth a look. thx!

relocating callligrapher
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=16903

the more i visit these forums,the more confused i get!help!!

I'm all confused as to what rom is the best to install
I installed 1.60a, and used it thinking it was the best....higher version number!
It was so cool, that I wanted to read every single post, and all the excitement you guys have had while getting it to work...started reading at 10 in the night, kept reading every post, one by one, until 4:00am next morning!!!!
I then realized, holy ****, 1.50i.xx is the latest, and is more practical!!
Believe it or not, i did a complete reinstall after that at 4:00am
I further continue reading, i read that 1.60a with a ram disk is a better option!! now, i'm all confused as to what i need to install
Somebody help!!!!
Thanks guys in advance!
And Buzz.....where the hell did you get your brains from man? Do you work at ROM Cooking division of Microsoft during day, and have an MPD...morph into a hacker at night or what???!! What IDE do you use to build ROMs for microsoft....a hex editor?? Whatever, you're absofuckinlutely rocking dude!!
Best,
San

Just my two cents...
I use 1.60a because the 16MB storage + 16 MB ExtROM are persistent. Every program and data that you install into these two are still there even if the battery is dead.
Originally 1.60a was limited as it only offered a max of 32 MB to install programs and data (16MB + 16MB). But with the ramdisk you can install many more programs. However, the programs or data installed in the ramdisk are of course not persistent, which means you will lose it if the battery goes dead.
Hence, if you value persistence above storage, go for 1.60a and use the ramdisk for additional storage capacity.
If you don't care about persistence and always carry a spare battery with you, go for the 1.5xxx versions according to your storage needs.
Cheers
Pat

Hey thanks very much for your reply!
I really dont care how much device memory i have. I have a max of 10 megs of apps that need to go on device memory. The problem i faced was that, the 14 meg storage disk kept getting filled up to something around 10 megs....and i was worried where all the common dlls etc. would also end up going into this (even if i install the app onto my storage card) and end up consuming the entire storage space.
Btw, how do you gain access to other 16 meg partition? Do i need to use an ext rom unlocker or something? Where can i grab that?
Also, how do i create a RAM disk on 1.60a? I read the post, but it seems to confusing...and i didnt know what to do. Besides, i didnt have the ramdisk cab file for 1.60a. Would be great if you could mail it to me or something!
Heres my mail id - [email protected]
Once again, thanks very much!!
Best,
San

Here is Toe's file to unlock the ExtROM. Copy to PPC, start and softreset. Cheers
Pat

1.60a upgrade questions

Hey all!
I am currently running on 1.50i.96 and am looking at upgrading to 1.60a. I dont seem to need much of on device storage space really, so i guess i'd atleast have the persistent memory benefit from 1.60a (correct me if am wrong here!)
I just unlocked my extended rom. I have a bunch of files sitting in it. The question is, can i back these files up on my computer, and get rid of it to free up space? Would that cause any problems during a hard reset or something?
The next question, how do i install the RAMDisk? Where can i find the installer for the same? Are there any procedures i'd need to follow to set my RAM disk size?
Thanks so very much!
San

i've a question fot you :
Have you read the posts about wm2005 rom in this forum ?
the 1.60 rom have 180 Mb of ram (volatile) and 14.5 Mb of Storage (persistant)
The Extended rom is NOT used by wm2005 , you can totally erase the extended rom and install all you want ....
You can install ramdisk on 1.60 rom but it's non-persistant .
persistant = : if you remove battery , content of persistant memory stay ....
non-persistant = : if you remove battery , content of non-persistant memory don't stay !!

thanks for your inputs TofClock.
I am aware of the fact that the ram disk is not persistent...the word "ram"disk is clear enough!
But i need the ram disk "just in case"...i thought it would make better sense to start using 1.60a only when i'm sure i can get more space in case i need it sometime later...for now 32 megs seems good enough though...
TofClock, by any chance could you mail me the ramdisk cab file ?? Heres my mail address...
[email protected]
Thanks again!
San

hmm...
well 1.60a has:
128MB Program memory
14.5MB Storage memory as system root
16MB ExtendedROM usable as storage
You cannot install RAMDisk on this version of ROM.
Well you can, but it will cause conflicts in the OS.
If you need more storage space, get yourself 1.50i.xx, where xx stands for amount of Program memory.
buzz

Thanks for your reply Buzz!
when I use 1.60a, I'd totally have 16MB+16MB of persistent storage right?
the question is, where do all the common files (DLLs etc.), contacts, messages etc. get installed/saved onto? One of the 16meg partitions right? My main worry is that all these common files, contacts etc. might exceed the 16meg partition that the OS is using...correct or would it??
I'd want persistent storage mainly, and as long as I can install a couple hundred megs of apps onto my storage card, I'm just fine!
thanks again big time
San

Advantages of Rom-Cooking

Hello,
since my artemis seems to get lower on performance as I used up Main Storage, I wonder what effect it would have if I try to cook my used apps into the rom.
Is it right, that I can compile any software into rom? what would be max rom-size? what for then I find cabs in extended rom? Are Programms using less Storage if they are compiled into Rom?

if programs are located in rom they dont use any storage rom only app mem unless they use temp files which use storage
extented run are just cab files which are auto installed to storage so it dont help you at all

...Sorry, I am not sure, if I really got your message.
First ROM itself stands for (read only memory), that is defenitively storage.
I guess I am lacking knowledge about storage architekture. As I know from that 128 MB rom Dice, I always get some 46mb main Storage for Installing Programs, or saving my Phone-Contacts etc.....
I thought that remaining space, is dependent from whats inside my Rom, whatelse for would it make sence to put free storage below any self-cooked rom available on this forum?
The interesting stuff would be, what kind of programs I can compile into any rom, what would be the exact effect?

ROM sizes - max ROM size / maximum ROM size

First of all Happy New Year to all of you!
I'm going to cook some roms in the next few days and was wondering what the max working ROM size is. I want to build a ROM with as much apps as possible. Are there any known problems if I use up almost all the ROM space? I remember that there was this "not enough free memory" bug in one of the B&B or Meschle's ROMs. That actually happened although his ROM was extra-small I think.
And talking about the max. size why not talk about all the sizes. I read that the minimum size is a little over 50 MB. In theory there should be 128 MB available, right?
UPDATE: This is what I found out, no need to read the entire thread. I flashed a lot and coud reach a maximum of 65.546 KB, 65802 was too much for it. This ROM included ONLY the OS, I was able to flash a 20 MB Ext. ROM, maybe even larger is possible but doesn't make any sense to me. The RadioROM and the other stuff uses space too, that's the reason why you can't use 128 MB for your ROMs.

Registerme said:
First of all Happy New Year to all of you!
I'm going to cook some roms in the next few days and was wondering what the max working ROM size is. I want to build a ROM with as much apps as possible. Are there any known problems if I use up almost all the ROM space? I remember that there was this "not enough free memory" bug in one of the B&B or Meschle's ROMs. That actually happened although his ROM was extra-small I think.
And talking about the max. size why not talk about all the sizes. I read that the minimum size is a little over 50 MB. In theory there should be 128 MB available, right?
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If I'm not mistaken WM5 and 6 use persistent strorage - hence ROM is used for storing apps and data, whereas RAM is used for running apps and 'volatile' data. This was different in WM2003se earlier, as RAM was used for both installing apps and running apps and data. ROM was only used for the OS, and for 'built-in-storage', which was like a RAM drive (or ROM drive !!!).
So if you filled up your ROM (extended ROM) with apps, you'd not be able to install anything as there would be no space left. Correct me if I'm wrong.
PS that's why carrier's extended ROMs are only a couple of megs

Thanx for that info, but that's what I'm planning to do. Create a ROM with all the apps that I need so I don't need to install anything later.
I was only wondering because most ROMs seem to be about 50 MB in size but there is only 50 MB free space left to use. Doesn't the Artemis have 128 MB ROM?

Registerme said:
Thanx for that info, but that's what I'm planning to do. Create a ROM with all the apps that I need so I don't need to install anything later.
I was only wondering because most ROMs seem to be about 50 MB in size but there is only 50 MB free space left to use. Doesn't the Artemis have 128 MB ROM?
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Yeah, the atermis has 64mb ram and 128mb rom. I don't know if other space is reserved for the radio rom and the bootlooder etc. I expect that's the case. Good luck with building your ROM, please let me know how you get on.. my email is greenleef (at) talk21 (dot) com if you get a chance.
I want to build an extended ROM too, put all of my cabs in there. I'm just worried about using up valuable application storage space. But then again I install most larger apps to my storage card. What tools do you use, and do you need to CID unlock it first? I'm running the stock WM6 rom from 02.

I use Hyper Core Kitchen, Cook-Your-LLT, OK Package Creator 5.4 and BuildDSM. I also use UPX4PPC to shrink the .exe and .dll files on my pda and then copy the shrinked files back to the packages. I'm still working on that. You only need to use CID unlock if you have a CID locked ROM on your device.
I've succesfully created my first ROMs, 65 MB seems to be the maximum for the OS file, I tried a 20 MB extended ROM that worked out kinda ok. I must have made some mistake because the files installed but nothing was there afterwards to use. I think I might unlock the ext rom and use it as storage space, it's easier that way.

Registerme said:
I tried a 20 MB extended ROM that worked out kinda ok.
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Interesting, but - what for? If you use ExtROM, you reserve space for installers, and even more valuable storage space would be occupied for installed executables and data files.
Perhaps you can achieve better results installing programs from (and maybe - to) microSD card. At least, easier to manage, than reflashing ExtROM.
Anothe side effect: when I install programs to SD Card, after flashing it is enough to copy several .lnk files - and those programs are ready to use, without running installers.
In my opinion, ExtROM is a place for patching OS or keeping very necessary programs, which you could not inject into OS for some reason. Nothing more.

That's what I use my ext rom for, I put my system tools and other programs in there that don't fit in the os-rom. Those are tools I always use and that I haven't deleted in years, so I thought it would be a good idea to have them on my device in case my sd card ever dies or I have to do a hard reset.

Registerme said:
That's what I use my ext rom for, I put my system tools and other programs in there that don't fit in the os-rom. Those are tools I always use and that I haven't deleted in years, so I thought it would be a good idea to have them on my device in case my sd card ever dies or I have to do a hard reset.
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I like the idea of having apps and cabs in extrom, If I can figure it all out I plan to do it. I still use Cabinstall from 2003se on my Dell axim, as I find CABS going missing after i install them. I use PIM backup for PIM, and SPB backup for cloning my working rom with manually installed apps. All big apps go on storage card, which usually don't need registry keys so they're happy run from there - even TOMTOM6.
As far as my MicroSD giving up on me, I use symantec ghost, take an image of my SD every couple of weeks, and leave the image on my laptop.
One thing I really would like to do - remove all the useless .exes and things from my image... If I can free up 10meg from my ROM, I could unlock the extROM and use it as a storage area like you mention.... I think ROM is a lot faster than SD....