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O2 (UK) Confirm XDA Mini Pro Release (& Great Deals)

In light of O2 Germany announcing that they will be releasing the wizard as the XDA Mini S, I have just spoken to O2 (UK)'s Marketing Dept & they Officially confirmed they will be follcwing suit, with a UK release date of late October or early November, (stock & supply pemitting, (haha, hehe), they also confirmed that it will be released in the UK under the brand name of the XDA Mini Pro instead of Mini S, GET EM WHILE THERE HOT BOYS (or not, as the case may be)
Regards & Best Wishes Ash'e.

October / November. Jeez that is ages away.
I'm now looking at the Tornado (i-mate SP5) but from looking on the Expansys site where you can pre-order this it is very very expensive.

O2 (UK) XDA Mini S Pricing
The Price of the XDA Wizard Pro looks like its going to be £199.99-GBP or less, sounds like a good deal to me, think I will leave the Tornado or XDA Phone well alone in light of that.
Regards Ash'e

The waiting is killing me...
Terran

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The waiting is killing me...
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Don't get me started. I've had mine on order since August and I've been without a phone for a month :|

£474 actually: http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=125518

Actually not with an O2 Contract
Actually I need a new O2 contract, so instead of buying the I-Mate sim free version online, think I will hang on that little bit longer & get the XDA Mini Pro version of the HTC Wizard & save myself £300.00 GBP, since I need a new phone contract as I will need to make phone calls next year.
Always beer an early (wait for a good deal) adoptor, not an early, early take what ever deal I can, merely to get my hands on the latest kit first adoptor, you no I have always found what a difference a month can make when buying newly released tech.
Besides which my contact at O2 said that there is a chance that with the right contract it could even be free, (best for business 250 or above).
Oh on a foot note 02 business is offering completely free of charge GPRS access within reasonable usage limits (not more than 38 megs download a month).
All in all if you get a free Wizard and free GPRS access and some exclusive minutes every month for 18 months, sounds like a good deal to me.
Regards Ash'e

Where did you see unlimted data?
I'm buying a jasjar now w/o2 plan, not busniess, though I can, would love the data bit...

Its only available when you buy direct from O2 & when it is an XDA branded product & is available from the 15 of October, ethical usage does apply though.
Regards Ash'e

Are you sure that ethical usage does not apply?
So it would mean unlimited 3g? Skype calls and all? Unbelievable. Also, how do you know it is only available from the 15th vs the 3rd as o2 say? ( I spoke with o2 business today)

Not quite that easy
Although in theory Skype should work on GPRS, they say on the Skype site that there are problems with it, & Personally I have never managed to get it to work, usually lock in to a free WiFi Zone to use Skype.
Besides Which a Skype call on GPRS, would be highly bandwidth/megabyte intensive, which would be in contradiction of the O2 ethical usage limits.
However as to the date that is what I was told over the phone, could have moved it up my contact is one of my best mates from Oxford Uni who managed to become a director of O2 (lucky sod) but he does sometimes get his dates wrong he works in IT not marketing,
Nevertheless there is (within certain limits) free GPRS, which with a free XDA Mini Pro, & some inclusive minutes & texts I think its still a good deal and a great money saver,
Regards Ashe

Free Grprs - Data
This is the first i hear about this usage policy, but I thought the free data, whether 3g or gprs (I am getting the jasjar on an 02 contract for minutes, not data) was indeed only for o2 business users, and not the o2 35mb data only tarif (35GBp). I am confused as where the data is free.
You can have a data only business tariff, but that has a 35mb limit, besides, I don't know how you find unlimited data on o2??? (I get GPRS bills)

Let Me Explain
My buddy at O2 lets me know what the best deals are that are coming up, however O2 has a strict policy of not releasing any information to even its sales staff untill at max a couple of days before they become active, because if they did a lot of people would keep waiting for the better deals and this could makes there sales eratic.
As a customer they want you to take the best deal that is available at the time not what is on the cards in a months time.
O2 are trying to get there GPRS usage up and have come up with a plan to get more of there XDA business users used to using GPRS and the internet on there devices, knowing full well that once they get use to it even when the offer ends they will more than likely keep using it after experiencíng its advantages first hand.
I am just lucky that a director at O2 likes to keep me sweet because of certain aspects of my work and my long freindship with him, because of this I get the luxury of a little bit of pre-release information, thats all, believe me I always joke with him about giving me a little bit more for old times sake, I never get it though, although I do with a little bit of patience always get a good deal, he has never let me down yet, it was him that told me to hang on for the release of the XDA Mini Pro, and the unreleased release date for it, although O2 UK will corfirm that they definitely are releasing the XDA Mini Pro, my buddy just let me know when and what good deals would be attached to it.
Regards Ash'e

Softly, Softly Catchee Monkey.
In Light of some of the Sim Free prices I Keep seeing around this site, I think that maybe it might be worth waiting for some of the contract deal with the big providers.
Regards Ash'e

Sorry guys if this has been mentioned already, but for anyone that's missed this, what do you think of the 'magicians' successor, o2s' branded xda Atom?
Same form factor as the magician, but with WM 5.0, 128 Rom, on-board wifi, 262k QVGA screen, integrated FM Radio and a .....yes...2 megapixel camera upgrade!
I'm getting seriously confused. If we can believe these specs, it really throws a spanner in the works for me. I mean, I've pretty much decided on the Universal (just not sure on MDA Pro or o2s' Exec) but this 'Atom' thing is a serious upgrade from the old Jam and remains 'pocket friendly'. Opinions anyone...advice would be appreciated.
Anyway check this link and judge for yourselves.
read more here: http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/handhelds/0,39001703,39095540p,00.htm

i don't have any "sources" but i called up 02 and they confirmed that it will be released on the 3rd and the mini s should be out by the end of the year as they have it on there system as a near future release

To jaythemagicain:
if that post of yours was in response to mine,...thanks alot! I'll need to check out both the Exec and the Atom side by side, in person, to get a clearer perspective on things.
I was seriously contemplating the MDA Pro due out hopefully end of this month,...but now, can't wait till the 3rd! What's a few more days, right?

The Atom is Confusing Me To:
I have to admit that all the recent news as regards the XDA Atom, is confusing me to, had almost decided on the Wizard or XDA Mini Pro as they are now calling it unlike XDA Mini S there calling it in Germany, now however, the XDA Atom slowley creeps in and confuses us all again, a few confirmed specs would be really usefull.
Even Jag at O2 has heard nothing about it yet & I don't even know if it is anything to do with HTC.
Has anyone got any updated specs to put us all out of our misery
Regards Ash'e

It could be that it's the same sort of thing like voda and orange did when they basically made the jam but reworked it and made the vpa/spv versions.Perhaps one of the mini s's,but the keyboardless version,and reworked?

The Phantom Atom
Been searching for hours on the Internet & making lots of phone calls to everyone I know that may have any information on the Atom but to no avail, and no definative answer or information looks like we are just going to have to be patient, as I have said in other post this is almost like searching for the Holy Grail of Smartphones.
Every body loved the size of the magician, but wanted 128 Megs, WiFi & WM2005, but not to many people wanted the extra size, the slide out keyboard that caused the extra size or to have a slower CPU. Well it appears that the elusive XDA Atom fullfills all of these criteria, but is more elusive than the Holy Grail. However you can bet a pound to a dollar, that it will not reach Europe, and definatly not the UK, perhaps the operators are afraid to many people will buy them and start using Skype on WiFi, and effect there profits, it would certainly be easier to sell to the youth market because of its form factor.
Perhaps HTC should be listening to some of the comments on this forum as I reckon they could have a world beating Iconic device if they only thought about it and listened to what people are saying.
Oh well I will get down from my Soap Box now, any comments Chaps
Regards Ash'e

SPV M5000 in Orange October Magazine

They say I'll be out by the end out the month..?
No prices yet though
The dummy is available in the shops and wasnt as big as I was expecting..

Yay, I like Orange. I played with the Demo in their shop, its actualy a good dummy phone, close to the real thing.
Also, Go to the website and get yourself a £1 payg sim.
Then spend £1 on ALL YOU CAN EAT gprs for the day.
Its in their catalogue, you can buy £4 for 4meg for the month, or £1 a day for all you want. Thats the best gprs deal ive seen anywhere, including most of the contracts.

£1 a day for all day!? sounds interesting!
thanks for the info.

JonathanCassar said:
They say I'll be out by the end out the month..?
No prices yet though
The dummy is available in the shops and wasnt as big as I was expecting..
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Last time i rang them (which has been quite a lot over the last few weeks) they said it would be November when it was coming out..... getting so impatient now, been holding off getting a new phone for months to get this!

spoke to oramge in paddington station, and there is an offer where you get 1gig a month fo 3 month, which is great, but then after that you are down to 25 megs for 25 quid or something. they weren't able to offer anything in between.

The 1 gig for three months is a standard offer on all new contracts, its to get you "hooked" on data so they can then sell you loads.
They do sell bundles on their 'data' tarifs, and not too bad, about £25 for 65meg i think.

guys iv been with orange for donkey years and get my devices free on an upgrade (pda's etc) but this time im going to get the o2 exec pro, i know i know same spec etc but the o2 device (to me) just looks great!!!
whats your opinions on the looks for the devices jasjar the m5000 and the rest what looks the best??
p.s orange upgrades told me today it could be 18 oct if were lucky or nov, but thats orange for ya, always last to provide

as far as looks go,
The VPA IV i havent seen in person but it looks plain white to me
not that appealing, it just looks like a gameboy ds, not professional at all
The MDA Pro looks smart with the (almost) aluminium appearance
not the best looking phone of the lot but theres worse (see above)
The SPV M5000 has a gunmetal finish
i guess it can be appealing, its not as good looking as the MDA in my opinion
but they are close
to me though its a tie between the Jasjar and the XDA Exec in terms of sheer appearance, the black simply looks far more professional, and in my opinion far less of a toy (like the VPA), the only thing that clinches it between the 2 is the blue backlight on the keys of the XDA Exec. It's all down to preferance in the end, but that's mine

quiltfish << NICE JIBE :twisted: at the m2000, mate i couldnt agree more! lol :lol: i dont need a gun to defend my self iv got the m2000
just orded myo2 exec online cant wait till i get my hands on it!

I received a phone call today from a company (I can't remember their name) offering me a Free upgrade phone if I stay with Orange.
When I mentioned that I was only interested in the SPV M5000, he looked it up on his system and said that it had failed the testing by Orange and won't be available until February.
He didn't try to sell me an alternative, so I don't believe he was saying it to get me to choose another phone.
I hope he has got it wrong, but who knows. (Orange CS certainly don't) :?

I rang orange this afternoon and they told me it was just finishing the testing and would be ready for the end of the month!
I'm sure these people just pick a phrase out of a hat and say whatever it says!

If Orange mess about much more, i'll give up my 7 year relationship with them and move on..... I never can understand why they are always the last to release new phones!

drummer
>>> thats sales guys talking outa his ass. They will be releasing it as th chap here inoranges store has the device and let me have a play with it- the only issue he reported is that bcauses Oranges 3g Coverage is so poor customers will mainly be using 2g unless they are in a strong signal area(which are limited)but i guess they have to prove to the market that as always they are the last ones to bring out devices-mate iv been with orange contract for 7 donkey years and even though iwork for Vdafone I kept my main contractwith Orange as you know, you get used to having something around for so long(ABIT LIKE THE MISSES :lol: -- scrap that o shel kick my head in! :shock:
and my bills on average of 70-100 a month so all my upgrades i get for free (m2000) so i calld them and asked what they can do as my upgrades due in march they said they will let me upgrade in dec the earliset and they will give me the m5000 free- BUT i cant wait that long an as i prefar the look of the XDA-exec iv just orded that with O2 online and when i get my m5000 im floging it for a healthy profit
and guys they are going to offer you the 18 month contracts when you try to upgrade as being the best thing since a micro wave! but becarefull-catches : you can not upgrade for 18 months! and your phones warrenty period isonly for 12 months! soon though 12 month contrats will be phased out. Vodfone strated itandORangeo2 have followed suit.
shame

JUST GOT MY O2 EXEC!!!!!
and im loving it. been playing with it for a few hours theeeeeeeeeeeeeee only this that annoyed me was o2 active, id never used it before and iv read some people hate it and some love it well i hated it! tried to uninstall it through remove programmes dint do it so had to go into windows folder and hunt the files out I still have the battery icon on the top of my screen next to start does anyone know how to get rid of this?
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ok just released while I was on a mission to remove o2 active iv just buggerd up task manager, so i guess here we go with a reformat-- can anyone b kind enough to advise how to remove o2 active safely?
anyway besides from that i really love the device so far iv made a video call and that was good(until i lost 3g coverage-lol) and im geting use the device-even though its BIGGER and HEAVIER then my m2000 it feels fragile???
Im going to go hunt for sum quality stereo Bluetooth headsets and a stylish case

N2h said:
JUST GOT MY O2 EXEC!!!!!
and im loving it. been playing with it for a few hours theeeeeeeeeeeeeee only this that annoyed me was o2 active, id never used it before and iv read some people hate it and some love it well i hated it! tried to uninstall it through remove programmes dint do it so had to go into windows folder and hunt the files out I still have the battery icon on the top of my screen next to start does anyone know how to get rid of this?
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ok just released while I was on a mission to remove o2 active iv just buggerd up task manager, so i guess here we go with a reformat-- can anyone b kind enough to advise how to remove o2 active safely?
anyway besides from that i really love the device so far iv made a video call and that was good(until i lost 3g coverage-lol) and im geting use the device-even though its BIGGER and HEAVIER then my m2000 it feels fragile???
Im going to go hunt for sum quality stereo Bluetooth headsets and a stylish case
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It's very very difficult, but here goes.
READ THE F*CKING MANUAL
At startup you can choose basic, personal or corporate. Choose BASIC to get all your UK settings and skins and battery icon in today screen. No menus or anything else.
once again, READ THE F*CKING MANUAL!

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READ THE F*CKING MANUAL
At startup you can choose basic, personal or corporate. Choose BASIC to get all your UK settings and skins and battery icon in today screen. No menus or anything else.
once again, READ THE F*CKING MANUAL![/quote]<<<<<<<<
WHAT A ****ING TWAT! YEH THATS YOU "Southern_Man"
LISTEN PRICK WATCH YOUR ****ING LANGUAGE, OK ASSHOLE WHEN YOU SELECT BASIC OPTION ON INSTALLATION IT STILL INSTALLS THE "****ING FILES" TO YOUR DEVICE-SO RETARD KEEP YOUR ****ING OPINIONS TO YOURSELF!
AND IF YOUR PREPARED TO GIVE OTHER PEOPLE ABUSE WHEN THERE NO NEED TAKE THAT JUNK THAT YOU CALL A PDA AND SHOVE IT WHERE THE SUN DOES NOT SHINE"! ****!

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I had a nice prepaid subscription with an upstarting provider back when I lived in Oslo. Free gprs/mms without any limitations whatsoever. My counter stopped on 4gigs after being online for a year but I think that's probably an error on the programme's side. Or?

Arctura >>
your one lucky guy!! lol
i dont think you should call your service provider to discuss this oversight!
its a shame we cant get a fluke like that with the uk networks

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Also, Go to the website and get yourself a £1 payg sim.
Then spend £1 on ALL YOU CAN EAT gprs for the day.
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wow... that is brilliant - thanks very much for pointing that out - you've probably saved me a fortune
i've got an O2 xda exec, but have ordered myself a £1 orange sim for those days when i know i've got a long train journey
(if anyone else is interested - see http://www.orange.co.uk/service_plans/payasyougo/extra_costs.html#more_Extras)

Those Waiting From T-mobile...

2nd October.. T-mobile have updated their website, placed the MDA Vario II back on their website, Now that my mother says im allowed to have one, I rang to make sure they had some in stock, the person i was talking to, said there was quite a few ! Great !
Placed an order as soon as possible, with a bit of hitches during the order process using Firefox (did it in Internet Explorer in the end). Got my PAC Code from Orange (unfortunatly it has to come through the mail, delaying the process even more...)
Hopefulli i'll be a proud new owner of the MDA Vario II !!!! Can't wait.
Can anyone give me any useful links or tools? Any Pre-cautions?
Finally... I use a Series 60 Symbian (Nokia 7610), i want to backup all my messages and contacts and get them on the Pocket PC Somehow, Any ideas?

Yikes,
T-mob certinely know how to charge top whack?
Makes the VarioII V M3100 much more expensive on similar plans even ?
Maybe give it a week or two and see if the demand falls bringing down the prices hopefully..

LoL i hope your not trying to say im wasting my money...

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LoL i hope your not trying to say im wasting my money...
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No not realy, just dont want to find the price of the phone dropping off next week due to increased supply and maybe less demand, with the recent shortage of the Vario II over the past weeks T-mob maybe think the price can be 'hiked up'
Any ideas of the cost of the phone maybe a few weeks back on similar deals ?

I think the prices are about the same as they were in August. They introduced a £30 off the phone promotion during September, which now looks like it has finished.
The £5 of the plans, and 3 months free webnwalk started in September, and looks like it is continuing. Although the WebNwalk plans are revised, giving you less data (although it isn't supposed to be a hard limit).
Anyone know how T-mobile implement changes to their plans for existing contracts?
Example; if we took out webnwalk with 2gb data, and it is now advertised as 1Gb.

lol thanks killabeezz, i hope not either, but compared to Orange deals, their deals are almost double on contract and handset price (unless upgrading).
38h21543: Im sure you get to keep your contract, until it ends, in which case you'll need to pick one of the new contracts. So you still get to keep the 2gb data.

Given up waiting for Universal Successor ....

Hi All,
I have had an XDA EXEC for last 18months.
Been waiting patiently for a successor with a VGA screen and same laptop swivel screen design. I have seen the i-mate 7150 but do not like it. The HTC X7500 Advantage is just not suitable for the way I use my device either.
Anyway as my battery is giving me trouble now I think I am going to give up waiting and just get myself another Universal as an upgrade. This time the V1640 on Vodafone.
Anyone disagree or have a better suggestion speak now or forever hold your peace.

I suggest just buy a new battery if your xda is working and prolong its life, unless it's been giving you problems.

Yeah, get the battery replaced. What is the logic in buying a whole new PDA if only the battery is bad?

no, no, no get a new one and give me the old one!!! you don't want it it has a bad battery ;¬D

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no, no, no get a new one and give me the old one!!! you don't want it it has a bad battery ;¬D
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Cool signature. I like it.

Personally, I TRULY think the XDA will go down in history and be one of those retro collectors items like the original handsets from the early nineties. If you think about it, it broke ground with the VGA and a few other capabilities, and it's just a great unit. I'm keeping mine until the aliens force me to hand it over, which probably won't be long now....
If I were you, i would take clemsyn and patrickl's advice and get a new battery. I have a very good eBay seller if you're interested (seriously cheap and good quality) and unless you're bored with the unit, seems a shame to waste it just for the new battery cost. If you are bored with the unit, the HTC Advantage 7500 is the ONLY replacement for this little beast!

I'm thinking about the HTC Advantage 7500 too. The T-Mobile version called the Ameo. I've had my Universal for about 18 months too.
My GPS just broke so instead of buying a new one I might as well go for the Ameo and have it built in. I'd love the bigger screen and it doesn't look that much bigger overall to me. The built in 8GB disk sounds cool too.
But if you're not happy with the HTC Advantage 7500 or the Shift then I guess you're stuck with the Universal yes. It's still a great device.

patrickl said:
I'm thinking about the HTC Advantage 7500 too. The T-Mobile version called the Ameo. I've had my Universal for about 18 months too.
My GPS just broke so instead of buying a new one I might as well go for the Ameo and have it built in. I'd love the bigger screen and it doesn't look that much bigger overall to me. The built in 8GB disk sounds cool too.
But if you're not happy with the HTC Advantage 7500 or the Shift then I guess you're stuck with the Universal yes. It's still a great device.
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Yes the form factor of the Universal is more suitable for my use than the Advantage. Though I agree Advantage nice gadget.
Thanks for everyones opinion, but it looks like the decision has been made for me as the problem with my XDA has turned out to be more sinister than just a battery problem. Since last night I cannot get a network connection on phone side. Either dials and looses coverage or keeps saying searching for network with no joy. When putting sim in other phone coverage and getting network fine. Also alot of hangs requiring rebooting lately.
So off to order another Universal , this time the silver V1640 from Vodafone. Something interesting for all of you to note, on vodafone you can get Vodafone Business Email which gives you push email for any pop/imap email account onto your universal for only £10 per month. This includes unlimited sending and receiving emails with no extra fees for the data usage, just this flat fee. Thought I share this with you guys as I do think it is a nice deal.

Or you could go with 4smartphone.net and get a hosted exchange solution with push email (from any pop/imap account) plus Outlook 2007 for $84 a year - thats an even nicer deal!

I have a 10 euro flat fee internet connection (in the Netherlands). Isn't £10 for just e-mail a bit much then? Or is push e-mail so much more expensive.

Should i go from my Wizard <MDA> to Wing

My contract on my MDA just finished and I was thinking of upgrading phones to the newer wing.
They offered me new wing with 2yr contract for $280.
My MDA has been a great phone, one of the best i have ever owned.
Is the wing still a standard USB to charge it and sync it?
Only change i see is faster proc, microSD instead of miniSD, and 2mp over my 1.3...
I use my phone mostly for TXT, notepad and calendar.....\
So should i upgrade?

john94si said:
My contract on my MDA just finished and I was thinking of upgrading phones to the newer wing.
They offered me new wing with 2yr contract for $280.
My MDA has been a great phone, one of the best i have ever owned.
Is the wing still a standard USB to charge it and sync it?
Only change i see is faster proc, microSD instead of miniSD, and 2mp over my 1.3...
I use my phone mostly for TXT, notepad and calendar.....\
So should i upgrade?
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its not a faster proc. it doesnt have more ram. but it operates wm6 much much better than the MDA series. I just upgraded about a month ago and I am enjoying it a lot. The only reason I upgraded was because I cracked my MDA screen on new years eve.
The wing is slimmer, but its more of a left hand user kind of phone. so the choice is really up to you
I still like the MDA better, because it has the email and ie button on the main top of the screen and it was more of a right hander using phone.

I went from an MDA to a WING ... and I LOVE it.

I would say, dont upgrade/downgrade(!) to wing. The processor is same. RAM is still the same. Yeah, the body is slimmer, but, thats it. Also, you ll have to use the ext-usb to sync and charge, unlike the MDA
In short, the answer is NO

john94si said:
My contract on my MDA just finished and I was thinking of upgrading phones to the newer wing.
They offered me new wing with 2yr contract for $280.
So should i upgrade?
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i have had my 2 MDAs for almost 2 years. Gave one to my Daughter and she loves it. Got the Wing online for $50.00 after a $50.00 rebate. Only added one line for 1 year. Ported old number over at no cost. In the offer I also got a new Blue Tooth Headset for free. Free shipping, too. Had to signup for the email package at $9.95 per month, but will cancel as soon as I get refund.
Do NOT buy Wing for $280.00 and sign up for a 2 year contract. Really, I am not trying to tell you what to do, just save you some money.
Wing seems to be a little faster when connecting to the Internet. Agree with what others wrote below. If I had to buy at $280.00 and signup for 2 years I would not get the Wing. I still use both my MDA and Wing. Pretty much the same phone IMHO.
Good Luck on whatever you do.

For those of you who said try another phone. What would you recommend? Nothing that I see is really that HOT!

Yea tmobile doesnt offer any other cool phones. I hate blackberrys.
So can i still get a wing for $50 somewhere an 1 yr?

You can always get a ATT Tilt with contract for less than that. That's way too expensive.

I was going to stay with TM becuase my girls contract is with them and few other friends so calls within tmobile are free for us to each other.
I do see sprints new everything unlimited for $99 no though..

john94si said:
Yea tmobile doesnt offer any other cool phones. I hate blackberrys.
So can i still get a wing for $50 somewhere an 1 yr?
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Yeah call that business direct number (cant find it right now---you can search for me though )
and give them promo code "Windows Mobile"
once I get some cash I'll get the Wing, or the Tilt depending on price

Ok ill try the TM business.
Where are you located b.mann? I am in orlando. What happend to my post count?
I used to have ALOT of post here and now it just shows post count 8? Did the database crash here?

john94si said:
I was going to stay with TM becuase my girls contract is with them and few other friends so calls within tmobile are free for us to each other.
I do see sprints new everything unlimited for $99 no though..
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T-Mobile has the $99.00 plan just like all the rest of the companies.

Nah, stay with the MDA
Inside, the Wing and MDA are identical: same processor, same RAM, same ROM. I'm personally considering getting an MDA even though I have a Wing(I have my reasons). I like how it has the buttons for Internet Explorer and the messaging client above the screen as well as the control for the wireless radio on the left side of the phone. The only upgrades are the fact that the Wing runs Windows Mobile 6 and has a 2 MP camera.

The wing is cool, but I miss the LED flash on the MDA's camera. I used to use it as a little flashlight... MAN that thing came in handy!

john94si said:
Ok ill try the TM business.
Where are you located b.mann? I am in orlando. What happend to my post count?
I used to have ALOT of post here and now it just shows post count 8? Did the database crash here?
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St. Pete, but I'm moving to Orlando soon to go to UCF! Maybe we should have a get together of all the Florida people

well... the wing looks cooler...

b.mann said:
St. Pete, but I'm moving to Orlando soon to go to UCF! Maybe we should have a get together of all the Florida people
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Another Florida resident, huh? NY transplant in Palm Coast here.

The only reason I went from my MDA to a Wing was because the last time my MDA crapped out, they replaced it with a damn Dash. Talk about a downgrade. I lost ALL of the functionality that I had with my MDA such as the touch screen and general overall better feel of the keyboard (for my large hands). So I bit the bullet and went for a new 2 yr contract and a $300 upgrade charge even after a lot of pissing and moaning about how ridiculous it was to replace an MDA with a stupid Dash. Not hating on the Dash cause I'm sure there are plenty of people who like it, I'm just not one of them.
Anyway, to the point of my post. It took me a little while to get used to how the phone now opens on the opposite side than the MDA did. The keyboard has a much better feel to it than the MDA did, other than the location of the two "soft keys" when you have the keyboard open. I have had a few accidental sent messages or menu opens when trying to hit the I or O button or the R or T button. I like the more rubberized feel of the casing. And, since my favorite color is blue, I like the color
Overall I've been pleased with it. I guess I could have spent $100 more and gotten an iPhone, but AT&T can bite me for how much they want to charge for data packages and service. Besides the fact that the iPhone needs a slider and a QWERTY keyboard!

MDA for Wing
Here is another vote...
YES...
I have my old MDA and just got the Wing.
Much Much Much nicer.
and b.mann beat me to the best part..
Call t-mobile and use the
"Windows Mobile" and get it for 50.00
Can't beat that ...

b.mann said:
St. Pete, but I'm moving to Orlando soon to go to UCF! Maybe we should have a get together of all the Florida people
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I'll be at UCF this semester, too!