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I am really starting to hate my Alpine!

OK got a Himalaya and an Alpine (XDA branded) and my Himalaya is very happy now running WM2005 1.60a and the Alpine is running the O2 1.10 ROM.
I had forgotten how unstable WM2003se was compared to WM2005!
The phonepad keeps breaking, have to reinstall from cab files regularly, had to do this on the Himalaya too so it's not the particular ROM or anything I don't think.
Crashes, and lockups, corruption on the today screen that either require a soft reset or messing about changing today themes.
My problem is this, on the Himalaya running 2005, I have many apps installed to my SD card, which is fine, but when I need to use WiFi I need to unplug that to use the SDIO WLAN card, so I am unable to then use many of the programs installed.
Damn shame to let this Alpine gather dust, considering it has 128mb ram and rom, and could run 2005 so much better.
Are there any any newer English ROMs for the Alpine, or should I sit and wait with it boxed up until someone releases something else for it?

I was very annoyed at people working on 2005 for xda2 at the time as I believed that we would get grief from MS about it. It seems that, on the whole, that hasn't happened.
I got a 2i thinking that it would be the next upgrade, therefore when an even newer one comes along - ie Universal - I would be better placed to flog the 2i to pay for it. I'm almost starting to regret that decision as I would dearly love the have 2005 on my 2i...and if I had kept the xda2 I would have been enjoying 2005y goodness by now. Grrr!!
Bring on Universal that's what I say!!
Ant

AlanJC said:
OK got a Himalaya and an Alpine (XDA branded) and my Himalaya is very happy now running WM2005 1.60a and the Alpine is running the O2 1.10 ROM.
I had forgotten how unstable WM2003se was compared to WM2005!
The phonepad keeps breaking, have to reinstall from cab files regularly, had to do this on the Himalaya too so it's not the particular ROM or anything I don't think.
Crashes, and lockups, corruption on the today screen that either require a soft reset or messing about changing today themes.
My problem is this, on the Himalaya running 2005, I have many apps installed to my SD card, which is fine, but when I need to use WiFi I need to unplug that to use the SDIO WLAN card, so I am unable to then use many of the programs installed.
Damn shame to let this Alpine gather dust, considering it has 128mb ram and rom, and could run 2005 so much better.
Are there any any newer English ROMs for the Alpine, or should I sit and wait with it boxed up until someone releases something else for it?
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Yes there's other released roms for your ALPINE especially from IMATE and Qtek... So get the Pda2 WWE ROM from IMATE and try to use it on you XDA2i..
Good Luck my friend..

So get the Pda2 WWE ROM from IMATE and try to use it on you XDA2i..
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where can us xda 2i owners find th imate rom!?

Yeah, I thought you had to enter your IMEI to access images on the i-mate site.
Have you got a direct link please?

Here!

Many thanks, getting it now

Alan,
I read your thread and have similar dislikes about me Alpine. I have an O2 XDAIIi.
How did your upgrade go?
I downloaded the ROM upgrade but haven't installed it. I am really green at this and not sure how/if I should back up the ROM I have in case I need to restore. Did you do that? Can you guide me on how?
If the ROM upgrade was successful, were you able to install 2005? Again, can you point me in the direction of that download, and instructions.
Greatly appreciated,
Kyle

Try this page, it's about the most up to date ROM for the 2i at the moment. I've had no problems with it at all.

Urm.. you didn't actually post a link?
I am using the i-mate one at the moment, too many people seem to be having problems with the O2 1.11 ROM

True
Sorry, blonde moment there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25801
I reckon the problem with the new O2 ROM is the radio stack is still the original one. The radio stack on the ROM in the above link is the much better I-mate one with the updates of the O2 ROM.

WM2005 for HP2210

OK,
i know this forum is all about the Himalaya etc,
and i am probably very out if line, but......
does anyone know if there is a WM2005 version for the
HP2210?
I'm asking this for my brother.
He's very disapointed he didn't found a version......
TIA

sorry dodger h2210 didn't even get wm2003se i have one and was dissapointed. however h2210 is a very good machine check out www.ipaqhq.com for software and advice on how to get the best from it, also linux may work on that ipaq.
Rob

Is there any way to "downgrade" to WM2003se?

WM2005 is too slow and buggy for my liking, is there a way to get WM2003 on the MDA pro?
I can live with it if not, but WM2005 is horribly slow in comparison to 2003.

You read my mind
I was wondering the same thing just ealier today. I miss my Blue Angels performance. It never locked up and was plenty fast enough. It would be great to hae this performance and reliability on the Universal.

I have both the devices... BA with 1.42 ROM
BA feels faster only when there are very few apps running. However there are too many bugs and memory errors even when I am not running any app. Talk about closing WMP while it is playing and your loose the sound and have to reboot
WM5 is a bit slower but is much more usable IMO.

STILL... is there any chance of downgrading to 2003se??? no doubt its a universal truth that 2003se is much more stable and user-friendly than wm5, and is compatible with a lot more programs.

99.999999% sure there's no way you'll ever see WM2K3SE on a Universal.
Simply because there hasn't been any commercial need for it.
It was probably developed after MS had made WM5 betas for the Himalaya and Blue Angel.
And when they know that the Universal will be using WM5 in the end; why use resources on making a WM2K3SE ROM for it??
Sorry to dissapoint you..

aaah.. well that's ok, I just installed the latest o2 rom 1.30.107 wwe, and thats much much better than the previous one. I won't miss 2003se. 8)

Where can I get that O2 rom above and how would I install it? Thanks.

hazer said:
Where can I get that O2 rom above and how would I install it? Thanks.
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you can find it here,
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Universal/
althought I downloaded 1.30.162, but after installation in device information it says 1.30.107..!!

YOU CANNOT DOWNGRADE Jasjar to 2003SE, because Jasjar and WM5 have totally new memory handling algorythms. This hardware incompatible with the previous operation system.

castiwo said:
STILL... is there any chance of downgrading to 2003se??? no doubt its a universal truth that 2003se is much more stable and user-friendly than wm5, and is compatible with a lot more programs.
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no no i totally disagree. WM5 is much more stable and user friendly than wm2003se. wm2003se would crash for no real obvious reason sometimes, WM5 never froze on me (except if a program was crazy, using iGO & minimizing it, that causes a freeze). you can run 5-10 apps on WM5 without ANY slowdown i'd notice. WM2003SE, not bad but you can notice the slow down. and the softkeys, well i hated them for the first time but then realized how useful they are when you don't want to use the stylus... absolutely cool. now regarding usability without stylus, we're finally getting closer to the ideal, the handheld pc. now why can't i have a ctrl key on the universal's keyboard??

In just 4 days, after installing the latest O2 rom I had to change my opinion, WM5 Proved itself to be the best mobile os yet, and its working too fine now , no hangs at all.. i wonder why:!: I'm kind of in love with the Jasjar, but I fear that the screen will get loose after sometime at the both pivoting points ,
you are right about the stylus-less use, not touching the screen too often does give you a satisfying feeling. :wink:

wm2003 on the Universal DOES exist
99.999999% sure there's no way you'll ever see WM2K3SE on a Universal.
Simply because there hasn't been any commercial need for it.
It was probably developed after MS had made WM5 betas for the Himalaya and Blue Angel.
And when they know that the Universal will be using WM5 in the end; why use resources on making a WM2K3SE ROM for it??
Sorry to dissapoint you..
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Actually If Im not mistaken the T-Mobile MDA IV shipped with wm2003se. I saw on ebay a few days ago an auction for a universal (I can't remember which it was, I feel like It was an imate jasjar) that was clearly running wm2003. There were pictures of the device and its screen with the new menu at the base. Its possible it could have been the new menu hack for wm2005, but there wasn't a second menu item on the right, and while it could also have been a hoax, it seems pretty unlikely. The point is Im sure that a rom for the universal with wm2003se DOES exist, the question is where to get it. I certainly would like to trade in this useless M$ BT stack for a more functional widcomm/broadcomm stack, or even bluesolei.

Re: wm2003 on the Universal DOES exist
Sess said:
Actually If Im not mistaken the T-Mobile MDA IV shipped with wm2003se. I saw on ebay a few days ago an auction for a universal (I can't remember which it was, I feel like It was an imate jasjar) that was clearly running wm2003. There were pictures of the device and its screen with the new menu at the base. Its possible it could have been the new menu hack for wm2005, but there wasn't a second menu item on the right, and while it could also have been a hoax, it seems pretty unlikely. The point is Im sure that a rom for the universal with wm2003se DOES exist, the question is where to get it. I certainly would like to trade in this useless M$ BT stack for a more functional widcomm/broadcomm stack, or even bluesolei.
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you're mistaken. there's no MDA IV, only MDA Pro anyway, link to the auction please
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A2DP patch from Qtek

Did someone try this A2DP patch for Qtek ? http://www.smartmobile.se/item.aspx?id=743 I don't have Swedish IMEI, so I can't download it. Can someone from Sweden do it for us all, please?

yes please download and upload anyone...

WIll try
My S200 is Qtek branded so my IMEI wont work there, but I'll see if I can get hold of it. Give me a day or two.

**** i wanna test the new A2DP Patch Grrrrrr.... :x

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montana said:
My S200 is Qtek branded so my IMEI wont work there, but I'll see if I can get hold of it. Give me a day or two.
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Why it won't work? Isn't this site Qtek - centered? Sorry, my swedish knowledge is limited, but they refer to Qtek everywhere.

two diff. general agents in sweden.
Daangard (Smartmobile)
and Qtek.
So my IMEI wont work, but I told ya, at least give me a bloody day guys!

My Qtek S200 IMEI did not work there? My S200 is WWE, not SWE

Can't understand why you wastiong yor time? Just follow the tread and enjoy your music! It works for any Prophet device.

i'd certainly prefer to use an 'official' cab if possible, so if anyone can post it that'dbe great

Was so engrossed with my Atom, never saw all these goodies for Prophet :twisted:
Also very happy here Still need help to bring the Atom from bootloader mode 8)

J.Walker said:
Can't understand why you wastiong yor time? Just follow the tread and enjoy your music! It works for any Prophet device.
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We just want to see what does this patch do. May be it is a cleaner solution than the one described in the thread you refer to (it is not without problems). I myself didn't make up my mind on whether to use bt stereo headset, and won't buy one until I will see that there is a native and headache free soluion.

terramax said:
J.Walker said:
I myself didn't make up my mind on whether to use bt stereo headset, and won't buy one until I will see that there is a native and headache free soluion.
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ditto
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Sorry, I've got the "wrong" supplier for this one. As mentioned, qtek is distributed by Brightpoint and Dangard, with A2DP beeing supported by Dangard. Of course my s200 is from Brightpoint :roll:

DBZero said:
Sorry, I've got the "wrong" supplier for this one. As mentioned, qtek is distributed by Brightpoint and Dangard, with A2DP beeing supported by Dangard. Of course my s200 is from Brightpoint :roll:
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dragon666 should have the right one, since it was him who directed us to this site....

Nobody with Swedish Qtec IMEI here ???

rodigezstyle said:
Nobody with Swedish Qtec IMEI here ???
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As I said before, please read. There are 2 diff. general agents in Sweden.
Daangard = Smartmobile
Brightpoint
I have one from Brightpoint so I cant get it, but I'm working on getting the cab, chill guys!

I believe I have it... 8)
Thank´s the developers Wizard forum !!!
I test it now..

OK I have installed it over the tornado Patch and test it with the I Tech Blueband and the Sound quality it´s a little bit better than the Tornado Patch but not mutch better... anyone a idear why the blueband had a so bad soundquality ??? If I need any MSI Blueplayer Driver or whatever ???

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OK I have installed it over the tornado Patch and test it with the I Tech Blueband and the Sound quality it´s a little bit better than the Tornado Patch but not mutch better... anyone a idear why the blueband had a so bad soundquality ??? If I need any MSI Blueplayer Driver or whatever ???
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Your ears are playing tricks on you...
The files and registry settings in this CAB are the EXACT SAME as the ones in the original Tornado patch. I repeat: they are the exact same. There can't be any difference in sound quality.
But thanks for trying

radeon_x said:
rodigezstyle said:
OK I have installed it over the tornado Patch and test it with the I Tech Blueband and the Sound quality it´s a little bit better than the Tornado Patch but not mutch better... anyone a idear why the blueband had a so bad soundquality ??? If I need any MSI Blueplayer Driver or whatever ???
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Your ears are playing tricks on you...
The files and registry settings in this CAB are the EXACT SAME as the ones in the original Tornado patch. I repeat: they are the exact same. There can't be any difference in sound quality.
But thanks for trying
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Really ??? i don´t think that qtec bring the same patch out How a developers Cracker :roll: very strange !!!

WM6 on Alpine 2020i

how can you say its not possible to upgrade 2020i to WM6. The device is fantastic and i compare it with 9100 and is best. And in 9100 its possible. i dont understand.

There is not WM5 on Alpine, how can be WM6 on it ? Yes it is capable of running it but also capable are Himalaya and Blueangel and Magician but there is not WM6 for them

I Disagree
xplode said:
There is not WM5 on Alpine, how can be WM6 on it ? Yes it is capable of running it but also capable are Himalaya and Blueangel and Magician but there is not WM6 for them
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Sorry to disappoint you, but there is WM6 for Blueangel, not official but I have it working on mine.

there is also one for himalaya
makes more sense too that wm6 comes for devices which
already had wm5
being that wm5 and wm6 both are based on win CE5
so many drivers could be compatible
unlike manyy win CE4 drivers (what 2003 is based on)