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Hi.
I'm very surprised that there are no sample videos recorded with Xperia available (30fps VGA video recordings). Exceptions are old video captures made with older firmware. Those are not great quality (compared to e.g. INNOV8).
Do somebody know where to find some video samples made with retail model of Xperia (or could someone made one in full quality so I can consider this capability ) ?
Thanx.
Note: The X1i (Euro version) of the phone is the only one that supports 30FPS VGA video. The USA version (X1a) supports 24fps QVGA recording, similar to past ericsson phones.
Also the X1i uses h.264 where as the X1a does not. Video recording quality on the international version will be about double the quality you will see on a US-Spec model.
Point being, if you are in the USA looking to get this phone you're not going to see the same quality from samples released now since the phone just started shipping the UK,Germany,Sweden etc.
Thanks for info.
I'm from EU. I've seen a few samples in VGA/30 fps from Xperia, but also these were not on par with INNOV8 (on the other side, I must admit INNOV8 has "shocking" quality of video recording). INNOV8 is not in the market yet (or it was released at the same time as Xperia) and there are a lot of video samples from users on the web (incl. you tube).
I would be satisfied if recording quality of X1 is moderately better than the sample I've seen a long time ago.
video samples Xperia
Here are older video samples recorded with Xperia for you...
http://rapidshare.com/files/152771311/MOV_0001.3gp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qzIPU4OPgM
new video sample from Xperia X1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t49YH-Sal-0
(unfortunately, hard to judge because of YouTube compression)
...and here's an even newer one, this one is good because he checks different things.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSxhocKo_YA
video capture
Just a thought.
The video capture on the youtube videos seems ok but the quality of the sound doesn't seem much better than an am radio.
Maybe I won't ditch my n95 just yet...
here is one of newest samples...
http://content.modaco.net/catdocumentary.3gp
(from http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=273984&pid=924277&mode=threaded&start=)
should be original, no youtube resampled
IF THIS SAMPLE IS GENUINE, XPERIA DEFINITELY HAS MY RESPECT !!!
rudo3 said:
here is one of newest samples...
http://content.modaco.net/catdocumentary.3gp
(from http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=273984&pid=924277&mode=threaded&start=)
should be original, no youtube resampled
IF THIS SAMPLE IS GENUINE, XPERIA DEFINITELY HAS MY RESPECT !!!
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Wow! that is great.
this is another one...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irOnX59HDBI
(but only "you tube quality")
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new set of video samples...
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/mov_0002.3gp
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/mov_0055.3gp
great quality IMHO
rudo3 said:
new set of video samples...
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/mov_0002.3gp
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/mov_0055.3gp
great quality IMHO
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Hmmm, not bad at all. I had this horrible feeling it was going to suck as every HTC phone I have seen made it look like HTC were allergic to decent cameras. I had hoped that SE would insist on something better than your average HTC phone though.
forget movies @640x480, thats thumb cinema.
if you have a lot of light, the framerate will increase, but at fast movements, the picture will go very blocky (distorted and unshape). its absolutly not comparable to nokia n95.
it`s horrible, like all htc devices. i hoped that sony will insert a hardware codec and/or sony/zeiss lenses, in view of the good name of cybershot. BUT NOTHING OF THEM :-(((
but the cam it`s comparable to the diamond`s cam.
photos are ok and better than n95`s pictures!really!, if you remove the battery cover of the diamond. (diamond`s lens will have better view without battery cover`s plastic lens)
but the videofunktion is realised only by software codecs, like all htc wm 6.1 devices.
that stinks and suxx! lol
cheapcheating. i will give 10 bucks more, when htc will insert hardware video encoding of vga res or more with 30 fps *G
and i saw the x1 will save as 3gp, what about h264 vids? most 3gp has got only 15 fps
quality
Quality of video capture is not that bad at all.
Definitely way better than that of HTC Touch/PRO/HD.
its not better than diamonds capture quality. its equal
and the diamond can store the vids as mp4.
i can`t find on my x1 the function to select storing codec.
(an other vid cap application could fix thiz)
looks pretty good, but the youtube samples of the INNOV8 still look miles ahead...
but what the hell, its not meant to be a cam after all
i dont have to look @ youtube.
i filmed with my own x1. and at vga it suxxx.
when you move, its very blocky and you got a lot of lost frames.
tho years old n95 takes 30 frame vga videos under all conditions.
(low light/fast movement)
useless to talk about filming in low light conditions with x1 @640x480.
its slideshow style. and if u using low light option, 1-2 pictures will
taken, and what you see is only blur/swirl effect.
and the LED lamp .... :-((
For me, quality of these samples is more than sufficient...
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/up...0/mov_0055.3gp
http://content.modaco.net/catdocumentary.3gp
http://blog.se-nse.net/wp-content/up...0/mov_0055.3gp
Of course there are better mobiles for video capturing (innov, renoir, pixon,...). But in no way you can capture comparable video with Touch Pro or with (e.g.) C905.
the only video i can download is the second one.
the video is fluid, but in daylight filmed.
and take a closer look to the movie. while moving, its very blocky and very unclear.
(set player to pause,and slide with the timeline slider. view captures from randomly tryed timemarks. then you will see, what i mean.
but a lot of people cant see the artefacts in realtime. i am an advanced videoviewer/computerfreak, and it hurts me!!!in realtime viewing,too!)
temporarly a can`t take photos or video outside, because i`ve hurt
my legs and can`t stand longer then 2-3 seconds. :-(
but next few days, everything went`s okay, i will take some
demo mov/pix for you. and than remind my words.
and take a closer look the the used audiocodec.... 8khz mono.
and exactly this will it hear like.... :-((( on nokia phones it`s much better.
hopefully, we can wait for software updates, or registry hacks (samplingrate/other codec).
the sound recording quality in video mode is POOR!
but, this only a result of the samplingrate. with other audio recording tools
with samplingrate @44,1, the quality is very good.
Well since Android is progressing well and they've started getting the camera working (I know this from HTC-Linux's Twitter) and since Android can actually play 720p as opposed to when Winmo is running it can't. And with the camera hack for the Nexus One that allowed it to record 720p I was just theorizing that there may be a possibility of recording 720p on HD2 while you're running Android? To me it would make sense but I know nothing of hardware specs vs software vs decoding speed vs screen resolution so I was curious as to what all other people reading this thread or Developers may have to say to this.
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Indeed it would be nice to have HD recording on HD2, but you'll still have to take into consideration the fact that it is still early and lots of other bugs need to be fixed before such "luxurious" details can be looked over by the devs.
Not to mention the fact that the sound on the video recorder on the hd2 is bloody awful to say the least. I used to have an n95 and that wiped the floor with the hd2. I would be more interested in better sound.
The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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elgrego4 said:
Not to mention the fact that the sound on the video recorder on the hd2 is bloody awful to say the least. I used to have an n95 and that wiped the floor with the hd2. I would be more interested in better sound.
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im not with you in this
see (dont forget to put it at high quality 480p on youtube for best quality)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX6Jx9gDR_I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWlHUFnvKP8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpmqPJwcMM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cba7yo5SwNk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfpmqPJwcMM
one of the best videos i recorded
but i also want 720p
I know I may sound stupid and I'll accept peoples input if this does but I just think that if the Nexus One camera can get a hack to support 720p and the HD2 was relatively released in the same 3-4 month period (may seem long I know) it just makes me think that the HD2's camera should qualify for getting the same hack when running android and yes it does deal with winmo because HD2 can't run 720p videos normally through the Winmo OS but as demonstrated the Linux Kernel on HD2 was able to play a 720p HD video.
Just tried the new Desire V4 Build and it indeed has camera support so if any dev wants to look into it by all means.
polo735 said:
The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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Nah, I would bet it's the sensor more than anything.
I'm not talking about the pic quality, its the sound quality. It is very distorted and tinny. I was at a concert with my gf who recorded the same song on her average sony phone. The difference in the quality was shocking.
I actually think the video and picture performance are quite good, then again I came from a touch HD which was terrible. There is no hardware reason why this phone cannot do, in fact the hardware can defo record / decode HD but how easy it will be to get this to work in Andriod is anyones guess.
I am actually planning to keep this phone a while as IMHO it is still the best looking phone out there, the droids are too clunky and the samsungs are about 3 years behind in design.
I'm hoping we can get a full working full installable ROM soon so I can ditch winmo altogether.
Then again I only have 11 months left on my HD2 so something else may catch my eye - I dont think it will be winmo7 though as it looks dull as fnck.
polo735 said:
The HD2's photo quality is limited by the lens, not the operating system on the phone. The N95 features a Carl Zeiss lens which enables it to take great pictures. Resolution is highly overrated when it comes to photo quality.
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yes the n95s lens was a zeiss, but that was just a name!
The lens was cheap thin glass, just like any other mobile phone lens ever made. There is a reason zeiss prime lenses go for £20k and upwards, I agree with you on that!
and your spot on about resolution being no way near as important as a good sized sensor, and good optics.
But one of the main reasons mobile phone video looks so crap, is the low resolution its always been recorded at! You look at some phones that can record 720 and it looks a damn sight better than the vga recordings, Mostly because It doesn't need to be stretched out and destroted like low res' video does
I definately haven't experienced problems with the mike for the HD2, I've recorded videos with my friends and they come out very well in reference to sound and there IS alot of sound in a concert so I wouldn't be surprised if audio you recorded at a concert would sound bad.
lonelykatana said:
yes the n95s lens was a zeiss, but that was just a name!
The lens was cheap thin glass, just like any other mobile phone lens ever made. There is a reason zeiss prime lenses go for £20k and upwards, I agree with you on that!
and your spot on about resolution being no way near as important as a good sized sensor, and good optics.
But one of the main reasons mobile phone video looks so crap, is the low resolution its always been recorded at! You look at some phones that can record 720 and it looks a damn sight better than the vga recordings, Mostly because It doesn't need to be stretched out and destroted like low res' video does
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I always did wonder why the HD2's video quality only went up to VGA even though it has a WVGA screen, 0.o.
skrizzyboy said:
I definately haven't experienced problems with the mike for the HD2, I've recorded videos with my friends and they come out very well in reference to sound and there IS alot of sound in a concert so I wouldn't be surprised if audio you recorded at a concert would sound bad.
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What im trying to point out is that lots of other (older, cheaper) phones record better sound. My missus used a w995 and It is much better sound.
granted sound probably isnt the HD2's stongpoint but the video performance is comparable with other models. Yes it could be better but it will only get better though enabling it in Android.
Any update on the 720p on htc hd2 ??? I would pay the person 100 us dollars if they get the 720p recording on htc hd2 with android !!
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I always did wonder why the HD2's video quality only went up to VGA even though it has a WVGA screen, 0.o.
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lol! mine records in WVGA(800x480) and has the option to record 720p(1280x720) but when i try it camera shuts down.. so the best a can record is WVGA plus the frame rate seems to be a bit smoother than normal HD2 VGA recording
Dani01c said:
lol! mine records in WVGA(800x480) and has the option to record 720p(1280x720) but when i try it camera shuts down.. so the best a can record is WVGA plus the frame rate seems to be a bit smoother than normal HD2 VGA recording
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how does it have that option? and cant that just be a vid codec error?(which can be fixed)
Any news about 720p recording in android?Is a driver still in development? I would like to try wp7 only for the hd recording ability,seems good
I noticed with the nexus one stock 2.2, vid recording was okay, but the vibrants blew it out of the water. It had a better framerate, better pic quality, and most of all for me, BETTER SOUND. Hence my reason for making this thread. I was wondering if the g2 would still have that low bitrate stock AMR codec..i really hope not.
Any input on this?
according to the rep i talked to(HTC) the camera in it as a 5MP looked 10x better than the 8MP they tested and the cpu+gpu combo should help as well
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I watched a Desire Z video on youtube in 720p and it looked like cheap floating lense (Like it was underwater while moving around)
have yet to find a phone which had decent vid recording. iphone did it a okay job but its pretty shaky and sucks when filming motion.
If its anything like the MTS, it'll be worth it to me. The MTS recorded in 640x480 which looked pretty darn good to me. I mean its a phone in the end. The 720p res should look pretty darn good. I've been totally satisfied with the camera/video on the MTS and it looks like the G2 will be an even better camera plus way better video... so I'll be happy!
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have yet to find a phone which had decent vid recording. iphone did it a okay job but its pretty shaky and sucks when filming motion.
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Yeah, the shutter speed has a ways to go in mobile cameras.
It'll have to be better than my Nexus One's 720p hack. So I'll be satisfied.
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It'll have to be better than my Nexus One's 720p hack. So I'll be satisfied.
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But WHAT ABOUT THE AUDIO! lol. But seriously, my nexus clips sounded like crap
Hello, I'm referring to the optimus 7 but to the other WP7 1gen too.
Why is the video quality so bad?
I mean, even my nokia e72 with less than half the processor power makes much better videos than WP7.
The resolution is high 720p, but there's no autofocus, and no night-mode.
because photos are quiet good, nothing special but seems to be better than the nokia ones.
but when it comes to videos, OMG, they look like crap, during the day, there are many focus problems, so short distance videos looks very low-res, and low-light videos, they are almost useless, everytime y go out party with my friends, I've got to bring my old e72 nokia for the videos. It sucks!!
now my question is, is it a software problem??
I'm pretty shure that's a software problem, because there's no logic that photos are ok, and videos are that bad. I was hoping that mango would give us a solution to this, but no.
Does anybody know if there's some video-app or something to get that stupid thing work. Microsoft very bad!!!!! Mango is worst than a pre beta!
So Ive had my XA2 for 4 days now.. and Ive got to say.. for a £200 phone (I paid), its pretty darn good...
I love the XZ3 style curved edged screen and the slightly curved back, and... even though the back plate is plastic.. it has a nice weighty feeling in the hand, it doesn't feel like a sub-£300 device..
The LCD screen is nice a clear and while, even at brightness 100%, its not fantastic in direct sunlight... its still pretty good... one of the best sub £500 screens for viewing outdoors Ive seen..
The speaker is surprisingly good and gets very VERY loud, so ringer and Msg tones are not a problem to hear at all, even in crowded places, although the speaker gets so loud that music can be tinney it doesn't distort, even past 90% volume... Its great.. the ear piece on recieving Calls is fantastically crisp, loud and clear
I don't play games on a 5.2" phone, so I cant comment on benchmarks, but so far.. Ive had no slow downs or stutters from the SD 630, its all liquid smooth and a breeze to use...
Also, the battery life is fantastic.. it really is... I am a moderate user and Ive only charged it once in 4 days and im still on 30%.. yep its really good... especially if you use Data saver in Google, turn your Location settings to "Battery Saving".. its Really good... and I haven't had any heat issues either... cool all the way, even using a QC3.0 fast charger.
One thing I have noticed.. Iam using a SanDisk 128GB 90M/S SDCard… but have found that its slow to access music using the SONY Music Player (album art is slow to load and songs can sometimes take a second or so to play.. .. yet on Google Music.. its nice and fast, but the XZ2 has the same issue so I don't think its the SD630 SoC ... strange that one..
Now, the camera... I purchased my XA2 and updated to build..123 (Dec 18), so I cant speak for previous issues, but I gotta say... the XA2 camera:
The Good..
Excellent in Daylight shots, great colour balance and lighting, Very clear and crisp, not bad on slow moving subjects, plenty of detail, hardly any barrel distortion or edge softening, no over-sharpening. great "Auto" Mode, great EIS..
The Bad
Poor in low light, but even when using the flash in low light.. it takes about 2 - 3 secs to actually take the image, so camera shake happens sometimes .... even when taking daylight shots, the camera can be slow to focus, over-exposes {like 90% of all phone cameras do} and I don't do selfies so I don't care about this but it has a terrible Selfie camera..
But hand on heart, this XA2 has a better camera than the old XZ Premium and XZ1.. Take all my "Good Points" and convert them to "Bad Points", plus the "Bad Points" ive already said... and you've got the XZP camera... Aside from the 4K 5.5" screen and Stereo speakers... IMHO, the XA2 is a better device than the XZP and XZ1. Ive owned 4 XZPs and an XZ1.. and ALL of them have had Terrible cameras, terrible Barrel distortion from the Z5 days, woolly, fuzzy edge softening as much as 15% on each image... Over-sharpening, terrible blurry images through rubbish EIS .. Believe me, Im still scratching my head at this XA2 compared to my XZP and XZ1 nightmares.
So, IMO its a no-brainer.. better than the P20 Lite and the Nokia 7 Plus... if you can put up with the "Sometimes" slow to focus times on the camera, not a selfie person or poor hand held low light images.. then Buy It.. this is easily the best phone under the OnePlus 5 for images and ease of use... its a joy to use, just remember it is only a 5.2" display
I'm considering getting the XA2 as a dedicated video camera for my Osmo mobile 2 gimbal. I've read some pretty damning reports that the audio when recording video is pretty awful. I have tried to find out if there has been any changes since the update but to no avail. Can you tell me if the audio has been improved? does it affect 3rd party camera apps too? Any info you can provide would be much appreciated.
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montgomary69 said:
I'm considering getting the XA2 as a dedicated video camera for my Osmo mobile 2 gimbal. I've read some pretty damning reports that the audio when recording video is pretty awful. I have tried to find out if there has been any changes since the update but to no avail. Can you tell me if the audio has been improved? does it affect 3rd party camera apps too? Any info you can provide would be much appreciated.
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Yes, it has been corrected. Now the audio recording is quite good. And yes, initially it was terrible !
montgomary69 said:
I'm considering getting the XA2 as a dedicated video camera for my Osmo mobile 2 gimbal. I've read some pretty damning reports that the audio when recording video is pretty awful. I have tried to find out if there has been any changes since the update but to no avail. Can you tell me if the audio has been improved? does it affect 3rd party camera apps too? Any info you can provide would be much appreciated.
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Sorry for late reply, but as emcom has pointed out... the audio is great on videos.. but I came to the XA2 using build 123, so I dont know about previous issues.. but IMO, Ive had NO issues at all and its nice and clear