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Phone Off button

Haven't been on the forum for a while...has anyone sorted out this anomoly with the instruction book saying you can turn the phone off by holding down the red button, whereas in fact it doeesn't. I remember someone saying that some phones did it, and then they withdrew the facility or something. I wondered if anyone has found a way of making it work. Thanks

it works for me; hold it for a few seconds; i am at pocket pc 2003 att

No, it definitely doesn't do anything. Is yours a US version or something? I bought mine in Engalnd shortly after they were released here in November 03. What is pocket pc 2003 att?

You talking about the XDA2 or the XDA?
On the XDA2, holding down the red phone button disconnects GPRS. It doesn't turn off the phone itself.

Correct, on the MDAII it does not switch off the phone

:idea: It is possible to turn the phone off using a button. I use Vito Button Mapper and have created a button macro to replace the stylus taps to turn the wireless function off.

well if flight mode can be choosen in settings where you map your buttons then yes
otherwise some programming would be required

No programming is required. The utility allows you to easily create macros containing stylus taps and assign that macro to a button. It turns the wireless function off in the normal way (not using flight mode).

Thanks
The macro thing sounds really good, thanks. Where did you get Vito Button Mapper from?

good old googles first 2 results on the string Vito Button Mapper
http://www.jenneth.info/archives/003010.html
http://vitotechnology.com/products/buttonmapper.html

The only thing is that with the new o2 rom update, you have to assign one button each to on and off instead of one button for both on & off. This is because in the connectivity 'bubble' the addition of "flight mode (wireless off)" shifts the link for the 'turn on/off' stylus tap down slightly.

Microsoft Voice Control 1.5

Hey Guys,
Ive been using a trial of voice control for a few days now, and wondered wether i have to press my mapped button everytime i want to tell my xda what to do.
As far as i can make out, if i have to press a button each time, it looses its appeal quickly
I use the hands free xda headphones to command it, so while im on my bike it would be nice to tell media player what to do without pressing a button in my pocket each time.
Please help,
Adam

There is no "Microsoft Voice Control", neither there is a "Microsoft Voice Command Trial"...

Chatty said:
There is no "Microsoft Voice Control", neither there is a "Microsoft Voice Command Trial"...
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I apologise, using the word "control" rather than "Microsoft Voice Command", and there is a trial of this software, im using it right now and I downloaded it from http://www.handango.co.uk/PlatformP...2&platformId=2&productType=2&productId=151270
So does anyone have an answer to my question above, do I have to press the button to start "Microsoft Voice Command" everytime I want to do somthing.
Thanks

i suspect that it does it like that because of cause if it would just catch the commands when ever spoken it would have to be turned on all the time
and if it were running like that it would be trying to recognize background noise and voices as commands all the time and use even more power and possible recognize some of the stuff as something and do odd things

I thought that might happen too, then i realised i have the 2 call buttons on the handsfree earphones that are easy to access (ref and green caller buttons) however i cant map these to voice control, does anyone know how to hack the button mapping ? like the volume sliders

You can only map buttons 1,2,3,and 4

Thanks everyone for your inputs, i have now managed to map the green or red buttons to anything i like, so now i can use my xda earphones green button to tell voice control what to do, works a treat, if anyone wants to know how, just ask.

adam_beasley said:
Thanks everyone for your inputs, i have now managed to map the green or red buttons to anything i like, so now i can use my xda earphones green button to tell voice control what to do, works a treat, if anyone wants to know how, just ask.
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pls go ahead and post how u did it..

Go to http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus_t.html and install this simply utility onto your XDA (found searching on the forums earlier)
Once this is done, you can choose to unmap hardware buttons (red and green call buttons) as well as the volume slider etc etc
Then, like voice control requires, you go to control panel > buttons.
You will notice the usual "Button 1, Button 2" etc, however now you have the option to map "Green btn" or "Red Btn" (or any button you unmapped)
Link voice control to either of your choice, I used green for this test. Once you have done this, plug in your xda official headphones. You can then press the green button on the earphones to activate voice control, and therefore instruct it to do the usual things.
Tonight this was especially usefull on my bike to work, allowing me to change songs without having to stop and take my xda out my bag each time.
This obviously means you loose the use of the green button for accepting or making calls without remapping each time, the onlt workaround for this is having "Phone" on the start menu and just using the touch buttons on the dialer for calling etc.
Hope this is of use to some people out there, its certainly prompted me to buy the full voice control later today.

You can still use the green button to make calls!
Press the button and say 'CALL whoever'
although it isn't a good idea to make calles while on a bike anyway :lol:

Green Phone button mapping
@adam_beasley:
rather than place the phone icon (shortcut) in the start menu, why not map the phone to let's say contacts or calendar buttons?
you can also map 3 programs to a single button & access the programs by the number of press(es). program 1 = single press, program 2 = double press, and so on....
also, you may try to map the phone function as program 2 in the green button so that when you double press it will function as the usual phone button.
unluckily, I can't test & confirm to you since I haven't reinstalled it yet after the upgrade to WM2k5 V1.60a.
Cheers.

The problem i have from all of this, is that during playback on media player i toggle the screen off to save power, when i do this, my red or green buttons do nothing, even with button lock off.
So even tho this system works well, its flawed bigtime for me over this one problem, anyone have some ideas ?

Why don't you try turning the backlight down to 0%, but leaving the screen on? It's the backlight that is responsible for most of the battery drain.
You could make a profile in PocketZenPhone with all the settings for your audio playback (backlight, volume etc). I seem to remember there is a way to make PocketZenPhone change profile from a button press - you could map a double click of 'hang up' button to change profiles.

I also switch the screen off whilst listening to MP3s and have mapped the Action (joystick click) button to 'toggle' the screen display. In this mode pressing any other button does toggle the screen back on. I do not have the ButtonLock on as you can't then wake the machine up to accept a Voice Command. I have Voice Command currently mapped to the Record button on the side of the device but would like to map to the Green button. I would prefer single press - to answer the phone, double press - to activate Voice Command. I have e-mailed a few questions to the author of the AE Button Plus utility to confirm this can be done.

anybody want voicecommand
Email me i will attach to you.

If only we could map the BT headset to the green button....
Is there a way to get the BT headset into the option list for the green button. Is there some other BT program that facilitates the recognition of the main button of the BT headset?

AE Button Plus has inactivated several buttons in my Blue A
Well, it seems i should read with more attention, but now that the damage is done I hope someone can help.
I installed AE Button Plus in my Blue Angel, and as a result the ok and explorer buttons do not respond to anything anymore. I then unistalled the program, did a a full back up, a hard reset followed be restoration. Nothing has changed, these two buttons are still dead. The don't even show on the list of buttons anymore. Argggghhhh!!
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks

Hi, this is slightly off-topic, but I tried the PC version of Voice Command a long time ago (I don't think M$ still has it out on the streets), and it used to listen to every command, but won't do anything unless I begin the command with the word "Computer"... e.g. "Computer, what time is it?"
Wonder if there is such a switch for the O2... :roll: O2, what's my battery status :lol:

Re: AE Button Plus has inactivated several buttons in my Blu
gonzaloblanco1992 said:
Well, it seems i should read with more attention, but now that the damage is done I hope someone can help.
I installed AE Button Plus in my Blue Angel, and as a result the ok and explorer buttons do not respond to anything anymore. I then unistalled the program, did a a full back up, a hard reset followed be restoration. Nothing has changed, these two buttons are still dead. The don't even show on the list of buttons anymore. Argggghhhh!!
Any help will be appreciated. Thanks
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This happened to me at first, but i think your biggest fault was backing up while having this error, now any restoration is going to have this fault.
Rather than uninstall, just try installing it again, however when then screen appears with buttons to handle (about 7 drop down boxes), just choose "Do Not Handle" on each button then soft reset, worked on mine, then I uninstalled it.

How to upload the files to ftp, i have voicecommand 1.5, it working fine with me.

Can you remap power on/off button.

I own an O2 Mini & Eten M500.
Is there any possibility of remapping the power on/off button to another hardware key since my actual button is acting funny with me.(it works most of the time, but certain times even if I sit on it it wont power on the device. Power off is not a problem since I programmed it to sleep after xx secs.)
Any developer gurus out there who can develop a prog. for me :roll:
Thanks in advance for the help.

I dropped my HTC Hermes device and now the power button is stuck in.
Is there anyway to remap the power on/off function to another hardware button? Specifically the comms button.

well, i would like to delete my message, but dont know how?
i can edit it but i cant delete it, right?

You can use "AE Button Plus" to map all the other keys to other various functions, "power off the device" is among them...
you can even specify actions for single press, double press, triple press or long press for each button.. good luck

ae button or pqzII is okay

[email protected] said:
I own an O2 Mini & Eten M500.
Is there any possibility of remapping the power on/off button to another hardware key since my actual button is acting funny with me.(it works most of the time, but certain times even if I sit on it it wont power on the device. Power off is not a problem since I programmed it to sleep after xx secs.)
Any developer gurus out there who can develop a prog. for me :roll:
Thanks in advance for the help.
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Thats quite strange and I've never heard that one before. I'm guessing there could be some oxidation on the contacts of the power button.
As a test to be 100% sure its the button which is the problem, have you tried calling the device to wake it up when the power button refuses to work? Reason being, is that I suspect its actually the device freezing and not waking up rather than just the power button malfunctioning. If the power button refuses to work and you can successfully wake up the device by other means (eg, a phone call) then you can explore other alternatives

how do i map leftsoftkey as the redkey(Red Phone Button) and the redkey as leftsoftkey?
current hardware keymap:
leftsoftkey controller rightsoftkey
greenkey controller redkey
what i want:
redkey controller rightsoftkey
greenkey controller leftsoftkey
reason for tiz is i cant seem to get morphgear to use the redkey or the greenkey even after mapping in the game. by mapping leftsoftkey to the redkey, i can then play the game with "A" "B" buttons using my right hand. so "A" will be mapped to rightsoftkey and "B" mapped to "leftsoftkey"(physically redkey).
i hv tried ae button plus.. tried unbinding redkey still no use. tried binding single press to virtual key too but to no avail.

It could help
[email protected] said:
I own an O2 Mini & Eten M500.
Is there any possibility of remapping the power on/off button to another hardware key since my actual button is acting funny with me.(it works most of the time, but certain times even if I sit on it it wont power on the device. Power off is not a problem since I programmed it to sleep after xx secs.)
Any developer gurus out there who can develop a prog. for me :roll:
Thanks in advance for the help.
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This one is from the Hermes forum, at least gives you a couple of ideas on how to...
Cheers!

Rigging screen off (like PWMP)
I would like help on this too. Is there any way to rig the device so the power button only ever turns on/off the screen (like windows media player does) or at least is there a program or cab someone can design to do this????
Thanks in advance.

I've figured out how to do the above, if anyone wants to know pm me.

Re-Assigning Power Button

Hey guys, I just got my 8525 a week ago, I'm still trying to get used to it. Overall i think i like it more then my TREO650 but i have one problem, i cant stand the small power button on the side. Most of the time i push it i push the slide keyboard out too, its so small i can never find it.
My old Treo650 had the power button and locking keys on the END button, when i push END it would lock and turn off the screen, to Unlock i would push END again and then the Center button. Is there any way to re-assign the Power button on the 8525 to be like my old Treo650?

Any suggestions guys. I am having the same problem with small power button

DAFTEK said:
its so small i can never find it.
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sounds like a personal problem, maybe see a doctor?
On a serious note.. i dont think it can be reprogrammed via the software, i believe the power button is actually mapped via hardware since it is used for functions like putting the phone into bootloader mode, etc.. i could be wrong though.

Hey thanks for the reply although its my phone with the small problem I have tried two programs on the forum here called Devicelock.cab but that only locks the device but you still have to push power to power the phone back up.

I believe the power key can be reprogrammed in one or two highly invasive ways.
However, it doesn't sound like you want to re-assign the power key, but to assign the power off function to another key. Is that correct? That's easy/
If you want to assign the power on function, that is more complicated, but there are work arounds.
V

I agree with the original poster. The small power on/off button is poor design. When I want to place a call, I first need to turn the device on by hitting that very small button. Then I need to activate the phone app or invoke MS voice command. It's just plain poor design. I love my 8525, but it could be so much better if the product designers at HTC actually thought about the ergonomics of the tasks users do the most.
One more gripe. The phone app is atrocious. Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu. This is annoying for a phone and a better design could mitigate the poor usability. I/m not an iPhone fanboy but take a look at the thought Apple put in there *first* phone and it is quite illuminating on the state of PPC phones.

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[...]Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu[...]
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You could try scrollwheel up or D-pad up for recent call list .
(also down for speed-dials).
Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.

ovidiugm said:
Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.
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The original poster could - while in a call - try pressing the green button for two or three seconds.
I think it's even mentioned in the manual...
Cheers
Daniel

Hello.
I agree with the previous posters. The badly placed powerOn button is "bad design". If anyone finds the sollution (to PowerON the device using another key) please share it!
Otherwise, this is a great device. A true pocket computer
Best regards, jZ

+1 for the poor design.
I always hit the power button as I am pulling it out of the case when a call comes in, that turns off the screen, then I have to hit it again to see who is calling, and with all that going on as well as the ringer, the phone has a minor anurism and delays in answering.....

So to summarise the poor design aspect of this thread:
1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
Conclusion, it's just about right then!!
You can't please all of the people all of the time.
Mike

1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
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Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V

vijay555 said:
Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V
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unfortunately i can operate my wife's buttons even when i dont want to.. talk about poor design )

Lol, Shogun, remind us again how many kids you have?
Ok, some Opus Dei style self flagellation for the errant moderators going off topic.
Is this issue now resolved?
V

I can also operate my wifes buttons just fine as well but all i want is to find out if i can move the power button to maybe the PPT button or END when holding it.

Daftek, again, do you want to emulate the power key functionality, (ie on/off) on another key, and/or entirely disable the original power key?
V

Thats what I would like to do......

Hello.
I think we'd all like to assign a DIFFERENT KEY to POWER ON function. POWER OFF is no problem, because a button for this can be assigned through "Buttons". When the phone is in "sleep mode", only the POWER button can wake it.
Any solutions?
Regards, jZ

IMHO, it's possible but not easily.
Easiest work around is to disable button locking, so that pressing any button can wake the device, and then use a software lock to timeout/power off if you happen to poke a hardware button while it's in your pocket.
Alternatively you could rewrite the button driver, but it's possible (although I've not looked into it definitively) that the hardware power button is a hardware interrupt to the CPU. In which case a software based solution will not override a hardware based connection.
V

This is what I did...
I totally agree the power button is a pain, the size, placement...
I know this sounds a bit weird but I took a small piece of plastic (actually from a toothpick) and crazy glued it on the button. It works great! I never miss the button anymore! See picture...

Won't let me change button assignments

Hey there,
I installed the Microsoft Voice Command and assigned it to the 'Recorder' button (next to the camera button) if I just press it once. Left it so that holding it records a note.
It all worked great, whenever I pressed the button, voice command would kick in etc etc. However, I soft-reset the Universal and now when I press the button, it just brings up the notes like it always used to.
I checked the button assignments and they're all still set to what I told them to be, however, the device still insists on doing what it originally did when each button is pressed. I've tried changing them and changing them back to what I want with no improvement, and I've also tried changing other buttons to perform other tasks but they still won't change.
Anyone have any ideas? Does my Exec have a mind of its own?! lol
Thanks!
Dave