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Sorry if this gets asked all the time guys, have scoured your excellent forum for info but to no avail.
My ignorance is due to being an ex smartphone owner, which i am sure you know are easy to de-cert.
I just want to chuck a load of games and non-approved utils onto my XDA, but DAMMIT, it won't fookin let me
Cracking forum by the way guys, has taken me ages to find you!
Mart
Never touched a smart phone. I've never heard of "de-cert." What is it? Doesn't sound like something that needs to be done on the XDA, certainly I've never seen it said here, and I've been around since the dinosaur ages.
It allows non valid windows CE applications to be installed - i.e. not officially approved software
I've never heard of an officially-approved piece of software for a Pocket PC. I don't think there is a certification program for that. In any case, your PPC will let you install any PPC software, approved or not, whatever, it won't care.
Excellent, however I keep getting
"filename" is not a valid windows CE setup file.
Am I being stupid here, installing in the wrong way?
I have only seen that error when I tried running the wrong version (not for Pocket PC) on my unit.
Might want to make sure the app is for Pocket PC and that the cpu type is correct.
Cheers - most of my smartphone software must be incompatible then, even though the spv uses a version of PPC.
Any site recommendations where I can get hold of PPC software for free? seems to be damn expensive in most places!
Thanks again
Smartphone software IS certified... Basically, you pay Microsoft to be able to have your software run on smartphones.
Regular pocket PC or windows mobile on xda devices does NOT have this restriction (and those devices are what this forum is about..)
Smartphone software is not PPC-compatible. Lots of titles have releases for both PPC and Smatphone, but I've never seen one that has both in the same release (though I suppose you could package multiple versions with one installer).
In any case, go to the developers' sites and see if they have PPC compatible versions.
wfberg said:
Smartphone software IS certified... Basically, you pay Microsoft to be able to have your software run on smartphones.
Regular pocket PC or windows mobile on xda devices does NOT have this restriction (and those devices are what this forum is about..)
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Not true, some Smartphone software is certified but not all. There are many applications available for MS Smartphone that can only run on application unlocked handsets. Not all authors can afford to apply for certification and for many utils it's hardly worth the bother. Thankfully for most of the existing handsets it is relatively easy to application unlock them so that uncertified apps can be installed.
And going back to the OP's question, Smartphone software is not the same as PocketPC software and whilst a few rare titles can be run on both, most cannot.
www.freewareppc.com
has loads of goodies on there.
Smartphone software wise - I am not sure but I think I saw an emulator for PPC at one point - could not find it though - does anybody know if this exists as there is some good programs for smartphone that have no PPC equal???
I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
Spb pocketplus may not be supported by wm05?.Perhaps the next release will work though as i'm getting either the wizard or universal so I hope it does!
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
bugs are ok, it makes the patches more anticipated, and of course, with out this kind of feedback sofware houses wouldn't always reveal the issues before software is released.
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I started yesterday working with my new i-mate Jasjar, and, already, I am lost in so many bugs and bad issues.
1- ActiveSync 4 does not support backup/restore of the device. I know this is a "known" issue, but it is a real bad one!
2- Some programs cannot be installed at all, like SPB PocketPlus. On another hand, all task switchers (and program closers) make problems, and end up by soft resetting the device.
3- A big problem: I cannot uninstall any of the programs I installed, whether on the main memory or the storage card, whether by using ActiveSync (from the desktop), or Remove Programs (in Settings) or any third party software, like SKTools!
4- Synchronizing through ActiveSync is not always straight forward. Sometimes the device is not recognized, or, when recognized, synchronize cannot start, or, when it does start, it never ends.
Did any of you experience any of these problems?
Any suggestions, or we have to wait for a ROM upgrade ?
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dude all of these are software (activesync and windows 5 related) none are related to jasjar...the jasjar is the most stable imate device EVER
yes there are issues between the new active sync and windows and firewall and the antivirus that you run but these are Microsofts faults not jasjars...
to answer your questions
1) this is a bummer.. i really wish they had given the option of backing up device..anywyas thats why you have ppc softwares that do backup..the one working on wm5 is sunnysoft backup..
2)most of the softwares lag behind.. wm5 is out but not all software makers have updated their products..NOTE AGAIN THIS IS NOT JASJARS FAULT..its YOURs you can wait 6 more months by then spbsoftware should have a pocketplus that works on wm5
3)dude again old applications like sktools dont work on wm5... if you want you can use pocket mechanic and memmaid ..they work fine.. for task manager i use dinarsoft handy sweitcher..not only its an excellent application but it works on wm5 aswelll...
4)you have your firewall and antivirus software and to blame for this...not jasjar..for me i had to FORMAT my laptop and install activesync before i turned on firewall and installed an antivirus program...only then did active sync work..and its flawless now.. oen word my personal experience trendmicro2002 doesnt work with AS however 2005 version of pcillin works with its personal firewall set to off...
hope i cleared up a few misconceptions for you
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Well,
1) That is annoying. I hadn't noticed that, but I'm sure it'll be addressed in future...
2) As zohaer21 says, that's purely because we have the latest, greatest bleeding edge technology, and the software developers have yet to catch up. (In the meantime, HandySwitcher is working perfectly on my device, no bugs, no crashes, just what it's meant to do!)
3) Have you tried installing anything from a .cab file to see if you still have a problem uninstalling? I'd guess ActiveSync is probably your problem...
4) Can't really help there...I'd suggest removing Activesync completely from your PC and installing it again from scratch. Personally I'm not using the bundled version of ActiveSync (4.1?) because I had an old 4.0.??? already but I don't think I've heard of anyone else with that issue yet so I'd assume it's a problem with your PC installation?
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personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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Carnivor said:
personally i wouldnt expect software that worked fine on windows 3.1 to work just as fine on xp.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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True, but MS changed WM5 significantly from WM2003, many more changes than Windows 2000 -> Windows XP. The biggest changes were (1) persistent storage and new memory handling and (2) WM5's compatibility with MS Smartphone apps. I am not surprised a good number of apps aren't working.
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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no, but you'd expect software that worked on windows 2000 to work on XP. Why compare something with an 11 year gap to something with a 2 year gap?
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It does not depend on that gap but on what they did durring that gap. If you do not change structural things, backwards compatibility can last a long time.
Actually the gap between WM2003SE and WM5 is quite large for some software developers. Notably some applications that synchronise databases (TimeTTRacker, Commontime mNotes) have to be rewritten from the ground up, even though we are only talking about a 1 year gap. Microsoft did change some crucial things, even if it does not show at first glance.
sorry, my post came across a bit bolshy. It wasn't intended.
I meant that developers would hope that they wouldn't have to re-write their apps every few years. I like the changes, because it adds more structure and makes it more of a uniform platform, but we've got to hope that they don't change these very often.
It would help if MS supplied the emulators for WM5 free of charge. (I'm yet to find any)
No worries
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for PPC
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...F2-F524-4EC5-9155-717CBE5D25ED&displaylang=en
WM 5.0 SDK including emulator for Smartphone
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...CB-738A-4B97-8910-5CD29AB5F8D9&displaylang=en
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
hey mat1t dont worry about it,
just dont get put deisel in a petrol car, my analogy of the issues
louisk said:
SPB Pocket Plus version 3 works just fine on an i-Mate JasJar. Older versions of Pocket Plus will not work on WM5 devices of any kind, so upgrade to Version 3 and you can install it on your jasJar. I'm running it on mine.
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Correct!
It does work under WM5.0 Just make sure you are on version 3
If you are on Version 3 and still refuses to install, copy the CAB file over the device and execute/install from there.
DaleReeck said:
mat1t said:
Carnivor said:
By the way, SPB's PocketPlus looks like it works with WM5 because they have screen shots on their web site of it running on a Windows Mobile 5 OS. But it may just not be compatible with the JasJar yet.
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hi
it works but it makes it really slow (inlcuding the start up if you use the quick launch menu whatever)..i guess you can say its not wm5 optimized as yet
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SPB Pocket plus does install and work. I had to do a hard reset after I initially used my Jasjar and everything worked right. Like email accounts etc. What I would like to see is a program like gb tweak that keeps the gprs allways alive. But so for there is nothing out there. NO problems with my JasJar at all.
Mike
@Tekflow
Since you got a Jasjar, plz can you upload for us the Arabizer package from the Extended_Rom ?
Click Here! This is how they managed to copy it!
Thank you.
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
Daimaou said:
I have the file for you but cannot upload it on the server...
Please send me a PM and I will tell you where to donwload them.
Cheers
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Pm Sent
Just replied, and if someone can tell me why I cannot UL files on the server it would help me
Cheers
You have to use username:xdaupload password:xda to be able to upload
ftp://xdaupload:[email protected]
Hi all,
what is the best Antivirus for my Jam?
Is it really necessary?
I don't want to install stuff that make my jam too slow...
I wouldn't worry about it yet. I don't think there are too many viruses out there yet as there aren't too many people with pda phones or pdas on the net or constantly receiving MMS messages. Later in the future, yes.
I don't think we are there yet, either. But the latest ROM has eTrust in it, I think...
I'va installed the last WWE ROM and I've not got it... :-(
It comes on the extended rom, so if you did big storage and removed it, then naturally it's not there. Alternatively, grab it as a standalone from Club I-mate (requires an account)
Oh, and the virus database in it doesn't have a single virus so it's pretty useless at the moment. You'll be able to scan but there'll be nothing to look for!!
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I wouldn't worry about it yet. I don't think there are too many viruses out there yet as there aren't too many people with pda phones or pdas on the net or constantly receiving MMS messages. Later in the future, yes.
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*hacker with PDA reads this, rubs hands together eagerly and begins work on a PDA virus due to this comment*
jimmy-bish said:
It comes on the extended rom, so if you did big storage and removed it, then naturally it's not there. Alternatively, grab it as a standalone from Club I-mate (requires an account)
Oh, and the virus database in it doesn't have a single virus so it's pretty useless at the moment. You'll be able to scan but there'll be nothing to look for!!
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PC-Cillin (for Pocket PC)
antivirus.com/wireless
Engine version:5.200-0522
Pattern version: 795
3 files
common 58.2k
Pcciwin 41.5k
slm$vpn 167k
Works great!
Cheers
Markino said:
Hi all,
what is the best Antivirus for my Jam?
Is it really necessary?
I don't want to install stuff that make my jam too slow...
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Another free-for-personal-use antivirus software. Go to: http://www.airscanner.com/downloads/av/av.html to download.
taywilb said:
PC-Cillin (for Pocket PC)
antivirus.com/wireless
Engine version:5.200-0522
Pattern version: 795
3 files
common 58.2k
Pcciwin 41.5k
slm$vpn 167k
Works great!
Cheers
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I stand corrected. I looked on google and found this dated 19th July so it's fairly old. BBC news of first virus.
I also went to F-Secure antivirus site, which has a pocket PC version of it's software. Turns out they have 2 virus definitions. One's the virus mentioned above, the other is called Brador and is a backdoor trojan. Neither of which have been released out in the "wild", just proof of concept viruses.
Sorry to seem misleading. I'm not panicking yet, though.
Well... in your opinion wich antivirus is the best?
And what about spyware? Is there anything for that on ppc's, or aren't there any ppc-spywares out there yet?
Was just doing a search through the forums to see what would be good for my o2 mini.
It appears antivirus isn't that important yet....
Although this thread is a few months old however so are people still of the same opinion or do most has some type of antivirus installed now?
Cheers for some new thoughts
marto
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Hey,
found that on the web:
http://www.safer-networking.org/en/wince/index.html
It's a pocket pc portation of a good freeware spyware scanner. Works pretty good on my Magician - although the last database update of the mobile version was in June 2007. I'm interested in what you think about it.
Greetz, Mike.
Has anyone tested winterface from VITO?
http://vitotechnology.com/vito-mobile-shell.html
yes. looked fine to me at first but after a few minutes i noticed some issues.
i had problems with the taskmanager (because it did not uninstall or deactivate the standart taskmanager) and most of the good looking skins are not available for the x1 resolution.
- QuadWord
Buggy and sometimes slow... and you have to click/hit an icon more than once to get it to acknowledge selection...
I prefer iFonz: http://xperiancer.blogspot.com/2009/01/ifonz-iphone-for-windows-mobile.html
Best Regards.
tegera said:
Has anyone tested winterface from VITO?
http://vitotechnology.com/vito-mobile-shell.html
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Warning!
vitotechnology.com/vito-mobile-shell.html may cause a breach of browser security.
Why were you redirected to this page? When we tested, this site attempted to make unauthorized changes to our test PC by exploiting a browser security vulnerability. This is a serious security threat which could lead to an infection of your PC.
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Mcafee site advisor.
I use it, I like it. Not that it's perfect.
Also I have no problem with the site.
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I use it, I like it. Not that it's perfect.
Also I have no problem with the site.
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It's not a problem you can see. Basically it means that the website tried to automatically download and run a script on the connecting computer. Mcafee tests this.
Question is how severe the problem is, and if the problem is actual. Their site could get hacked in past.
This company really sells software and not bad one. This indeed is their main site. Why would they put viruses on their site ?
If I run this check now:
http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/vitotechnology.com
I get no warning,
Does anybody know if it is possible te install a pincode after the standbye schreen (I don't mean the normal screenlock from WM)
I use it
all the time, it makes using the X1 so much easier for 90% of the tasks.
What it doesn't do isn't worth worrying about.
It will improve, it is only a 1.2 product !!
I guess it depends what you're after, if you want the HTC Touch interface then install it / buy an HTC. If you've bought an X1 because you like the features but want to short cut some WinMo issues this is a very good way to do it.
Anyone knows where I can get some Winterface WVGA icons compatible with Xperia? Can't seem to find them anywhere and the default icons from 1.2 version look somewhat pixelated.
Has anyone done this? I've been searching everywhere for things to do with this phone, and the consensus seems to be that a WM6 flash for the 69xx is just not going to happen.
However...
I'd really like to take advantage of the internet connection sharing introduced in WM5 AKU3.
Is there possibly an individual add on that can be installed to enable ICS or is there a aku3 rom that could be flashed?
Forgive me if this has been addressed already.
It would probably help if I mentioned that my purpose for wanting this is so I can try to use my phone as a wireless access point for a laptop (when out of range of a regular WAP) or for my nintendo DS, so that I can geek out in luxury, even in the middle of nowhere.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4170499#post4170499
This helps ?
That link appears to be for an app for phones that have been upgraded to WM6+ already. I'm looking for a way to either update to a version of WM5 that has ICS built in so I can make use of those apps, or find some third-party app that can add ICS to the WM5 version I have.