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My provider (Globe Telecom) recently released their product Opti-SIM wherein there exist two lines in one SIM. It is easy to use via nokia phones coz you may toggle between lines by using Line1/Line2 in their menus. I'd like to use this special SIM in my XDA2 but I dont know how to configure the said feature. I've searched the whole Settings but I can't see any Line1/Line2 stuff.
I know some of us here have been using Dual SIM adaptor however this case is different, it is only 1 SIM with 2 Lines. I'm hesitant to avail it yet since I dont know if it will work with XDA. Does anyone know how to use it?
2 lines? what are the details of this? when did they start offering this? i'm a globe subscriber too.
Re: 2 Lines in 1 SIM, how to toggle between lines using XDA
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My provider (Globe Telecom) recently released their product Opti-SIM wherein there exist two lines in one SIM. It is easy to use via nokia phones coz you may toggle between lines by using Line1/Line2 in their menus. I'd like to use this special SIM in my XDA2 but I dont know how to configure the said feature. I've searched the whole Settings but I can't see any Line1/Line2 stuff?
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How it done on multiple SIMs.
I have programmed my silver sim with 4 sims and I use SIMs' pins to switch between them
Orange in the UK have the option of using two lines on one SIM but I think I'm correct in saying that this is not supported on the m1000 (their version of the XDAII, Qtex2020, iMate etc).
2 lines 1 simm
Orange supports 2 lines 1 simm[/b]. Orange is the only provider that supports this feature. I have Nokia 6600 with 2 lines and you toggel between lines by holding down the hash Key for 5/6 seconds. I have a m1000 and orange says 2lines 1 simm is not supported by the m1000. I have tried the simm and it recieves call on both lines. but you have no way of toggeling between the 2 lines ie you can only call out on the main line.
If anyone works a way round this then it would be welcome. [/quote]
Yes it is being offered by Globe. They can convert your 2 SIM's into 1 having 2 lines (cell numbers) in it. I think they've been offering this since July 2004 or earlier, im not so sure, but they only offer it to plan holders. You will be charged Php300.00 for conversion.
I found a thread but I can't remember which one, someone said you may toggle between lines using SIM Toolkit under Programs. I think the SIM card itself has a menu where you can switch between lines. It can be accessed through SIM Toolkit. No need to softreset. Although I haven't tried that yet, I'll be converting my 2 SIM's tonight, wish me luck.
Confirmed, I'm the living proof globe user, 2 lines in 1 sim. But you'll have to check your O2. I think previous models don't have the sim tool kit found under program files. I'm not sure if this is downloadable. Mine has it in the ROM, so even if I hard reset, it's still there. it's kinda a hassle to change lines though. I'm trying to find a macros to do it. go to program files/ sim tool kit/ my lines/ switch lines. These are the steps.
Question for Ilyas Khan:
Does this mean that if I can somehow get two lines stored onto my SIMM then it will accepting incoming calls on all of them at once? If they're both on Orange I mean.
What about multiple lines from different providers? I would imagine that it's not possible for the radio equipment to monitor more than one provider at once!
You can unblock your phone and purchase something called a ghost sim = 2 sim adapter that sits between battery and external cover. You can switch between the 2 providers by soft reset and choosing on start up. However these are temperamental and took me a while to find one that works on Himalaya's.
JPS is referring to the DUAL SIM Adapter discussed in some threads, but that is a different strory as discussed above where there are 2 lines/numbers (from 1 operator) on 1 sim.
Dual SIM adapters give you more flexibility and let you switch between SIMs by switching radio off/on. The ones that fit Himalaya are the King of Doublecard MAI-E (no cutting!) or any Ghost-SIM-adapter (need to cut both sims).
BTW One of the forum members is working on an app that lets you switch between the two SIM's in a dual-sim adapter via a today-plugin (also makes the active number visible!)
i also have 2 lines 1 sim from Globe, i use sim toolkit, but sometimes its doesnt automatically change you have to change to airplane mode and back again.
hi, my provider (orange uk ) supports line 2 ,does anyone know of a way that I can get my device to work with line 2 please?
thanks
no, there is no way to use line 2 on the pocket PC phones, only on the smartphones m600 etc.
BMF
please, what is line 2?
I'm using 2-PIN-SIM for 2 different phone lines successfully. deactivat phone, reactivateand give him the other PIN.
Provider: Mocistar,Spain
best regards
Karl der Käfer said:
please, what is line 2?
I'm using 2-PIN-SIM for 2 different phone lines successfully. deactivat phone, reactivateand give him the other PIN.
Provider: Mocistar,Spain
best regards
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You're using a dual SIM adaptor. The poster is asking whether the service provided by some operators; whereby you can have two distinct numbers on ONE SIM, will work. The answer appears to be 'no' on PPC devices.
Excuse me if i misunderstood... you mean that there can be no call waiting/ call on hold on PPC phones?
darkilici said:
Excuse me if i misunderstood... you mean that there can be no call waiting/ call on hold on PPC phones?
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Not that I know of. Anyone else?
Call waiting has nothing to do with 2nd line. Call waiting is an operator service thatt allows you to keep a call on hold/wait while you talk with someone else. IT WORKS on Trinity if your operator has it.
2nd line means that with one SIM you can be reached on two different phone numbers without having two phones and without restarting your phone to switch sims. You can make/receive calls on any of the 2 numbers.
Ok, sorry for the confusion
I know this post is a bit old but the answer is certainly no to having Line 2 on the SPV "M" series (or eqivalent - operator model) seems only the "s", "c" or the newer "e" series of orange branded SPV that support that function.
Hi all.
I need to know if wizard is able to work with a two line sim card.I know that there are some phones which are two line capable but i don't know about wizard.I also don't know if the limitation is hardware based or software.
Thanks alot.
If it's a Vodafone SIM the answer is probably, "No."
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369466&highlight=dual+SIM
Even aside from having searched and found the answer in less than a minute (hint, hint), I'd still have guessed the answer is, "No." I don't think the HW of the Wizard was designed to handle a dual SIM. The phone is just too old.
Hello
Some days ago I received my HTC Shift and I am very satisfied!
Unfortunately there is one strange Problem:
I am using a MultiSIM by T-Mobile, that means I have one number for multiple devices.
If the HTC Shift would make phone calls and someone calls me, the shift and my MDA Vario III would be ringing.
When I activate the Modem in my Shift it seems the Shift receives phone calls and then denies them! So nobody can call me when I am using my shift, since all calls are directed to my mailbox
Has anyone of you an idea what can I do?
(btw: I unlocked my Shift already to full WM6 )
The shift doesnt support phone calls...even if you have on sim card it wont ring
Use it for its gprs/edge/3g and sms sending n receiving
rdosti said:
The shift doesnt support phone calls...even if you have on sim card it wont ring
Use it for its gprs/edge/3g and sms sending n receiving
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Hello
thats exactly what I like to use the shift for. I am not interested in making phone calls with it.
But the Shift is blocking calls, which should also arrive on my mobile phone...
I think HTC has made this blocking to avoid connection problems when somebody tries to calls the shift (which is not supported).
Is this right?
Might work?
I don't know for sure about T-Mobile. I am using a similar service (they call it "FlexiCard") from E-Plus. They have a function that allows you to designate one of your SIM cards as the primary card. This is the card that will receive calls (and SMS) first, only if this card is not active (phone turned off) or busy a call or SMS will be routed to the other card.
However, there seems to be a service difference between T-Mobile and E-Plus: I have the SIM card in my Shift still designated as the "primary" card. If the modem is turned on, this is interpreted by E-Plus as "busy", so calls go to my phone (which holds the "secondary" card). If the modem is turned off, the SIM card in my Shift is obviously inactive and not visible to the mobile network. So the only reason for me to switch "primary" vs. "secondary" would be to continue receiving SMS messages on my phone rather than the Shift. Unfortunately, for SMS E-Plus does not bother whether the "primary" card is active / busy or not, SMS always go to that card (understandable when you look at how SMS works on mobile networks).
If you don't find any information about switching primary/secondary card in your documentation that came with the card I suggest contacting the T-Mobile hotline. They should be able to tell you whether this functionality is available with your "MultiSIM" and how to switch "primary" between the cards.
Thank you mw65719 four your tip.
I just phoned with T-Mobile support.
They don't support it like Eplus to switch between SIMCards.
It is just possible to define a primary card for SMS service, not for phone calls. Whenever someone calls me both phones are ringing.
So I will have to buy a new contract with T-Mobile just for data transfer, which is more expensive than the combination of phone/data contract.
I have the same issue with the MultiSIM from t-mobile. Both phones (the other one is a Touch) are ringing, after the first ring a line-busy message is generated.
Seems that the Shift in canceling the incoming call after the first ring.
Does anyone has an idea to solve this problem instead of splitting the MultiSIM into two separate contracts?
Have just opened a suuport case at HTC Europe concering this issue. Seems to be a German (and t-mobile) specific problem.....
speech service ?!
gsiakoe said:
Seems that the Shift in canceling the incoming call after the first ring.
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find out how the call canceled
a: is it the 3g modem that set the networkstatus to -> data service only
b: or a apllication that will call canceled - reason busy
see here what i mean
http://www.t-mobile.de/downloads/laptop/hyperterminalmulti-sim-anleitung.pdf
I think it's part of the WinMo/SnapVue side.
Vista enables a lan connection with WinMo for internet.
So there could be settings in the registry to enable/disable this busy status.
I try to find somethin, but unfortunately i'm not a pro like others here in the Board.
Where are you folks, on Planet Mars, everyone and all documents I read say that the Shift cannot support phone calls???????
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Where are you folks, on Planet Mars, everyone and all documents I read say that the Shift cannot support phone calls???????
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it can be made to recieve them though. we all say Bengalboy's pics. about the phone calls being blocked. that does suck. i guess we have to wait till the phone side is re activated.
Idea how to activate phone pad
Pawel062 said:
it can be made to recieve them though. we all say Bengalboy's pics. about the phone calls being blocked. that does suck. i guess we have to wait till the phone side is re activated.
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I had some phone calls with T-Mobile Business support and they told me a trick how to activate the phone function, but I dont get this to work.
What I have to do is the following:
1. Download and install a hyper terminal application on Windows mobile (I found http://www.cambridgevx.com (Server seems to be down at the moment))
2. Open a direct connection to the modem
3. Enter the following commands:
3a: AT_odo?
(this should show 1 which means speech is deactivated
3b: AT_odo=0
(speech is beeing activated)
4. Reset Windows Mobile and the phone should be activated
I was told this is known to work on some data modems and should work on the HTC Shift too.
But always I try setp 2 I get an error "cannot open data connection"
Has anyone an idea?
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I had some phone calls with T-Mobile Business support and they told me a trick how to activate the phone function, but I dont get this to work.
What I have to do is the following:
1. Download and install a hyper terminal application on Windows mobile (I found http://www.cambridgevx.com (Server seems to be down at the moment))
2. Open a direct connection to the modem
3. Enter the following commands:
3a: AT_odo?
(this should show 1 which means speech is deactivated
3b: AT_odo=0
(speech is beeing activated)
4. Reset Windows Mobile and the phone should be activated
I was told this is known to work on some data modems and should work on the HTC Shift too.
But always I try setp 2 I get an error "cannot open data connection"
Has anyone an idea?
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problem there is no phone pad aka dial pad in production models as far as i know. so even if u can re enable it u wont have any images etc... it'll most likely require a custom rom or if we get lucky a cab.
Pawel062 said:
problem there is no phone pad aka dial pad in production models as far as i know. so even if u can re enable it u wont have any images etc... it'll most likely require a custom rom or if we get lucky a cab.
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I am not interested in using the phone pad.
I like to solve the busy line problem (read some posts above). When activating the speech on modem side, this would be solve and I could use my Shift with my MultiSIM-Card
Irgendware said:
I had some phone calls with T-Mobile Business support and they told me a trick how to activate the phone function, but I dont get this to work.
What I have to do is the following:
1. Download and install a hyper terminal application on Windows mobile (I found http://www.cambridgevx.com (Server seems to be down at the moment))
2. Open a direct connection to the modem
3. Enter the following commands:
3a: AT_odo?
(this should show 1 which means speech is deactivated
3b: AT_odo=0
(speech is beeing activated)
4. Reset Windows Mobile and the phone should be activated
I was told this is known to work on some data modems and should work on the HTC Shift too.
But always I try setp 2 I get an error "cannot open data connection"
Has anyone an idea?
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souds interesting ! .. have you try some scenarios ? with 3G enabled, with 3G disabled, with wifi enabled, with wifi disabled ... etc ?
I can't try myself.. but as there are data connection through 3G.. I think that it is possible to find a solution to the step 2 !
Anybody found a solution for this?
Getting my shift soon, and im going for a twin sim solution. would suck if i cant get phone calls on my kaiser cos the shift is on in snap vue mode and rejects the calls.
I am experiencing the same Problem with my Shift.
It is crazy, because my Mobile rings a halt time, then the Shift rejects the call. Afterwards, I have to call back.
The problem should be able to solve, but you have, anyhow, to tell the shifts modem not to reject voice calls. Still, I do not know how to tell the modem
Hello?
Has anyone resolved this issue? I'm a new MultiSIM user, and the idea of not having any internet with my shift is ****ing me off (that would make it as useful as a brick ).
Any resolution is appreciated.
Cheers.
HI @ all, i don´t know, if you fixed that problem.
I´m a multi SIm user too. With the original Radio Version (shipped with german SHIFT) the same problem. After that, i update the radio Version to the Phone edition radio Version:
see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486234
(but here always my WinCE Side was really slow??) so I Downgrade back the phone edition
1.27.35.28 and ce OS version 5.2.1620 (I00 ROm I think)
And now, Phone is working, and never the Multisim usage hangs up.
I don´t know why, i play every 1 month with Shift and upgrade, downgrade something, then the most time shift is not in use, so i don´t make a history what happend...
:-(
But with the new radio Version it will work.
maybe this rom work too:
Cmonex posted another radio for backup. This radio is for original rom (ie all other roms from the forum). Look for the link on page 5, or here
http://rapidshare.com/files/20211808...ift1582123.zip <- this is not for the phone or for this rom
Mirror: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=7...e6ba49b5870170
Irgendware said:
Hello
Some days ago I received my HTC Shift and I am very satisfied!
Unfortunately there is one strange Problem:
I am using a MultiSIM by T-Mobile, that means I have one number for multiple devices.
If the HTC Shift would make phone calls and someone calls me, the shift and my MDA Vario III would be ringing.
When I activate the Modem in my Shift it seems the Shift receives phone calls and then denies them! So nobody can call me when I am using my shift, since all calls are directed to my mailbox
Has anyone of you an idea what can I do?
(btw: I unlocked my Shift already to full WM6 )
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it happens with all multiple sims when you have all the devices activated!!!...
when you have multiple sims and you have all the devices open...
which device should accept the call ??
it does not work as douplex land line... not all of your mobile devices should ring at the same time ... obviously the one that was opened first and got the signal from your provider should get the line...
the twin sim solution works fine with me ... plus unlimited internet access from phone and the shift...
BUT one device open at a time ...
I recently purchased a used Sprint Mogul on eBay... the seller didn't write much about the phone other than it works and it's missing the charger... i had a charger for PPC's from my Excalibur so it was no big deal...
I got the phone, it turns on and functions, and the ESN is clean!! (YAY! ) Also, it's already been flashed to Windows Mobile 6.1 (YAY!!! )
I called Sprint to have the ESN swap done and a number port from T-Mobile to Sprint... they initiated the ESN Swap and the number port at the same time. The port actually took place almost immediately. My T-Mobile "Dash"'s SIM card no longer registers on their network.
The problem is that the member care person told me to put in a code ( ##443235# ) and then select "Edit" and then "Ok" ... and from what I've read, the LAST pound isn't supposed to show up, it's supposed to redirect to a menu screen with 3 choices. This doesn't occur!! it types it in like a phone number!!
Now I have 2 phones, and neither one works. Somebody PLEASE help me, I know I can't possibly be the only person on the internet having this issue, but it sure seems like it because Google is vast and "#" isn't a search engine-friendly character
HELP!!
nevermind, i found the "EPST" file in the windows directory... can somebody explain to me what "EPST" is, and what ##778# does exactly on the Sprint network??