Bluetooth COM port problem with GPS - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Hi gang,
Did a quick search, haven't found an answer.
I can successfully pair my 8525 with my Holux GPSslim 236.
The problem I'm running into is creating the outbound port. I'm trying to create it as COM6, however it keeps giving me an error, regardless as to whether or not I check the secured connection box.
Now, I've tried several other ports, such as 0, 4, and 9, and I can create those just fine. But from I've read, the GPSlim 236 uses 6.
At the moment, I'm at a complete loss. Anyone else experiencing this problem and find a resolution?
Thanks!

Just a little update, I've got it successfully working using port 9. What I'm wondering though is it appears that ports 5 through 8 are unavailable/unusable. Any ideas?

I see the same thing with com6. bluetooth outport default on my wm2003 harrier was 6. com 0 works fine with my iblue gps and mapopolis.

I found the same thing, gpsinfo for my BT-359 wanted to use (I think) ports 1,3,5,6,7,8 and wouldn't let me pick 4 or 9 from it's list. However, when mapping BT ports, every time I tried to pick one from the above list it would say 'the port is in use'..
Anyone know how to find out what in the hell is using the ports with no programs running ??

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TomTom - GPS receiver with short memory?

Hi,
I've trawled the forum and I've followed all the TomTom setup procedures. The Problem is they seem to be for people who can't get TomTom working at all. I can get it working, just awkwardly.
Once I pair with my GPS receiver and go into TomTom i can get a connection. However when i quit TomTom and turn off the GPS it seems to forget. Next time I turn it on I don't get a connection.
The way I understand TomTom is that it seems to wait for the GPS receiver to contact the phone. This seems odd as I would have thought the phone would be the one to initiate contact.
Anyway my GPS receiver just seems to forget what phone it was connected to. TomTom obviously isn't forgetting the port, windows obviously isn't forgetting the pairing. But Every time I use it I have to re-pair the receiver (thus reminding the receiver of the phone it's supposed to be bonded to). It's beginning to drive me a bit insane.
Anyone else have this issue? Perhaps it's to do with my incoming and outcoming ports? Hopefully someone has already solved this? Not seen any references to it anywhere.
Lewis
Hello,
Which version of Tomtom are you using ? The last one (5.21) ? If not, try to upgrade and try again.
Yep 5.2 latest release.
I was hoping upgrade would fix it but alas no.
Lewis
BigDamHero said:
Yep 5.2 latest release.
I was hoping upgrade would fix it but alas no.
Lewis
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Don't mean to be picky, but 5.2 or 5.21?
I've held off installing TTN on my Wizard, as it works fine on my iPAQ 4700, I have a cradle for that, and according to ttcode, my current device is actually my old 3970, not the current iPAQ... Last week, I had a couple of hour drive to do, so I thought I'd give it a whirl. After an email exchange with TomTom support (who were more helpful than I'd originally given them credit for), I had a new activation code for the Wizard. Here's what I did, from a fairly recent hard reset with no previous TTN install whatsoever. Skip the mail if it doesn't look helpful, but I'll detail my steps in case it helps anyone else...
Although I believe the PC install is mended in 5.21 I copied the map and voice cab files from the CD to my SD card and installed them from there. The GPS drivers and main app I installed from the download I got from the TomTom support site by running the setup util on my PC. Once everything was installed, I moved the maps which seemed to finish up in a sub-directory on the card to the root of the card.
I paired the GPS (my old Emtac BT one) and selected serial port profile. I tried all the offered serial ports in the "Other BT GPS" list in TTN but none worked. Then I went to 'COM Ports' in Comm Manager/Bluetooth Settings and selected "New Outgoing Port". I picked the GPS from the list of paired SPP devices, and it created a new BT COM port on COM6. That definately hadn't been in TTN's list of BT com ports before, but is now there in the list with about half a dozen others. I selected that in the "Other BT GPS" list of BT ports, and TTN connects to the GPS each time.
As I said, I'd recently hard reset the device to try and prove a problem with my BT car-kit soit's quite possible the clean install was the secret, but try creating a new outgoing COM port against the GPS and see if TT remembers that...
Dox
BigDamHero said:
Hi,
I've trawled the forum and I've followed all the TomTom setup procedures.
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Which?
There are 2 general ways to set it up, 1 works 100% (i use it so know it does ) 1 i dont use and have never tried so may well work in the reverse direction and be causing you errors.
The way i set up tomtom; pair the BT GPS. Open an OUTGOING port to the BT GPS, set my GPS as OTHER (wired/cable) NEMA device (NOT bluetooth) in TTN5. now my tomtom connects to the bluetooth, not the otherway round. This method has thrown up no errors for me at all.
If you have followed the reg edit/hack to show the GPS page in connections then i dont know how the settings differ and the possible results this could have on connection issues.
Let us know which way you are going
I have the exact problem as BigDamHero. Each time I wanna use TTN, I need to delete the previously paired BT GPS and then pair it again, otherwise the TTN will just say No GPS Device. I use TTN v5.21 and Wizard with Windows Mobile 5. I tried my BT GPS device on my brother's PDA which runs on Windows Mobile 3, and it connects like a gem every time. I am also looking if anyone has solved this issue, cos it is tedious re-pairing every time.
Had the same problem until 5 mins ago! Found an explanation in another thread, but only in Dutch..
Here's how to do it:
Turn on GPS
Activate bluetooth on device, go to BT parameters, delete previous pairing like you're used to
Create new pairing, choose GPS, enter passkey, check Serial port in services, go to COM ports and add outgoing port (e.g. COM6) like you're still used to :roll:
Add an incoming port too (e.g. COM7) <-- Here's the trick!
Set your GPS apps to use COM6 (the outgoing one)... and here you are! This time it will work, you can turn off GPS and device bluetooth, turn on again and it will connect by itself.
If you want a bit more you can activate GPS panel, set program port to COM8 (then you will have to use this in your apps) and COM6 as hardware port.
Everything works fine now!
hey man, wot a coincidence....i also just read that post which had the dutch explanation.....BUT however, it's not working for me.
toneslee said:
hey man, wot a coincidence....i also just read that post which had the dutch explanation.....BUT however, it's not working for me.
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I did everything in the list except for creating the incoming port and it still works everytime (I know that's no consellation to you). I wonder if something else you've installed, or the way you installed the app is causing the problem? Is it worth a hard reset and trying the entire install on a clean wizard?
Dox
A friend didn't need the incoming port either. I believe it has something to do with the GPS, as he has a different brand than me.
With mine, before adding the incoming port if I started an app without erasing/redoing the pairing before I would get a notification saying "Navman GPS wants to connect" and asking me to pair. It would keep coming every 10 seconds whatever I did.
BigDamHero, what brand / model of GPS is it?
Maybe we can see if anybody here, or over on pocketgpsworld has been able to make the same combination work and if so, what they had to do to get it to fly...
Dox.
well, tomtom was the very first thing I installed when I got my new vario. it was only after I got tomtom fully working (but still need to re-pair everytime), then I installed a couple of simple Card games.
toneslee said:
well, tomtom was the very first thing I installed when I got my new vario. it was only after I got tomtom fully working (but still need to re-pair everytime), then I installed a couple of simple Card games.
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A quick glance at pocketgps suggests others are having similar issues. There's a thread here that suggests leaving it a while, and I seem to remember other GPS issue threads saying power up the GPS and let it get a fix before starting TTN. A more detailed probe round the forum will probably show more of the same.
Dox
I've just flashed my Qtek 9100 to a new ROM, (the O2 one), and since then I've been getting this same problem. With my previous ROM everything worked fine. I was able to turn of either my PDA or GPS, and they would always auto-reconnect in a few seconds. Looks to me like something broke during one of the ROM changes. Which ROM versions does everyone with/without this problem have?
By the way, I have a BT77 GPS.
Hey sorry for the total lack of reply. Been snowed under with exams.
Ok I tried most of what you guys said but didn`t work. BT ports aren't available to select as hardware ports.
However I have managed to solve it. The key was to pair the GPS, and create an UNENCRYPTED OUTGOING port. That's all. Previously I had encrypted ports outgoing and incoming. My GPS applet in control pannel is set to none so it,s nothing to do with that.
I don't know what my GPS is. Its unbranded. One of the cheap common ones.
Hope this helps some people with the same problem.
Lewis

XDA - Tomtom 6 - non-bluetooth GPS error

Hi
I have read through literally hunderds of pages of GPS stuff to do with mini. I have read some things that are true and some that aren't and am now confused.
I installed Tomtom 5.0 onto my Mini S. It went on fine. Maps installed fine. I went into 'satellites - configure' part and couldn't find my GPS on any of the settings. I am almost sure my GPS receiver isn't bluetooth. I know the baud should be 4800, but otherwise I am not sure. My dad has the same recieve but uses his with an IPAQ and it worked first time. I have tried my receiver with his ipaq and the receiver works fine so that eliminates that posibility.
Here is my receiver and the blurb that comes with it.
http://www.evermoregps.ca/
GM-R700 GPS receiver
(third one down.)
The mouse-shape GPS receiver is design for PC and PDA applications. With WAAS/EGNOS channels, EverMore can give you more accurate direction and position. Compact Flash module is also available now.
I selected 'Other NMEA GPS receiver' and tried all of those. Then went through the bluetooth equivelent just in case. None of them pick my receiver up.
I then read somewhere that version 6 of Tomtom wouldn't work on my XDA mini. I downloaded 5.2 and tried it with that. I had read that this allowed 'port 7' to work. I couldn't get my map to work with 5.2 even though I spent ages on it. Eventually I tried Tomtom 6.0. As I mentioned earlier, someone had said that it wouldn't work on an XDA, but this is false as I got it working straight away. The map also installed fine and once I activated it things seemed ok. I presumed that the port 7 would now come as an option. It didn't. I am still at the same place. I believe that the port 7 thing may be a bluetooth only thing but I am not sure. I am not great at GPSbut know my way around an IPAQ pretty well. I am new to my phone so chances are there is some gateway or something that I haven't enabled etc, but I am at the end of what I know.
If anyone can help me out at all I would be eternally greatful. So far I have spent a good 20 hours getting the bloody thing working and I am about to lose the will to live.
I have used the search option on the site, but it seems everyone has BT GPS, and none of the posts seem relevant to my problem. If I have missed a post then I am sorry, but there are a fair few posts on the site now.
Thanks in advance,
Woody.
bluetooth
you have to pair your gps receiver with your phone in bluetooth settings give it com ports then go into tomtom then into show gps status then configurethen other bluetooth gps receiver then pick your com port hope this helps
jay05 said:
you have to pair your gps receiver with your phone in bluetooth settings give it com ports then go into tomtom then into show gps status then configurethen other bluetooth gps receiver then pick your com port hope this helps
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Do I have to do this even though it isn't a bluetooth device?
Even when I enabled com 7 on bluetooth settings, comm 7 didn't appear on 'Select your GPS receiver' on Tomtom.
I will try it anyway, and thanks for the speedy response.
sorry
i have give you wrong advice i thought gps recever wash bluetooth you should try going into on your phone settings, connections ,beam ,and un tick receive all in coming beams as these frees up the com port 7 on xda1.YOU WILL HAVE TO RECONFIGURE SETTINGS IN TOMTOM GPS STATUS FOR WIRED GPS RECEVER. SORRY FOR LAST POST HOPE THIS HELPS ps i got gps recever recever off ebay was meant to work on my xda1 but did not it was for ipaq the connector was the same but wiring was wrong hope this helps
Woody, first of all I couldn't understand that which GPS device have you got as you have mentioned 3rd down on that webpage, anyway I have the attached the picture of one of the device named "GM-R700", if this is the right device which you have then this is a serial cabled GPS device which connect to the device via cradle, not via Bluetooth, if I am right then bluetooth chapter is closed, we are going to talk about the cable GPS device.
If it is the right device then how are you connecting the GPS device to the XDA, does the GPS device came with the cradle and the car charger? (it must be).
Find the attached word file for a sequential instructions, I have just made it for you and others who are still stuck to make their TomTom work.
GoodLuck & let me know.
Sidd
Sidd, your attached documents refuse to open!, I am not too sure that you can connect a wired GPS to this type of phone, it simply won't work, the only option is Bluetooth for the Wizzard. In the case of the IIi and IIs phones they had a true serial port that could be used - Mike
Try these attached files as I have zipped them on a normal compression.
I think ""GuinUK (1st post)"" hasn't mention his/her device, but the GPS he/she mentioned is a serial device.
Sidd
I am pretty sure it is a Mini S he is trying to get to work with the cabled GPS receiver, it simply will not work - the device doesn't have a serial port to connect equipment like this to. The Mini S is Bluetooth only for GPS AFAIK - Mike
sidd said:
Woody, first of all I couldn't understand that which GPS device have you got as you have mentioned 3rd down on that webpage, anyway I have the attached the picture of one of the device named "GM-R700", if this is the right device which you have then this is a serial cabled GPS device which connect to the device via cradle, not via Bluetooth, if I am right then bluetooth chapter is closed, we are going to talk about the cable GPS device.
If it is the right device then how are you connecting the GPS device to the XDA, does the GPS device came with the cradle and the car charger? (it must be).
Find the attached word file for a sequential instructions, I have just made it for you and others who are still stuck to make their TomTom work.
GoodLuck & let me know.
Sidd
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Thanks for your reply. This is indeed the right GPS. Sorry for any confusion there. I am about to try what you have written. I have indeed got a cradle, and a converter which makes my Ps2 GPS fit into the socket.
I will get back to you with how I got on.
Thanks again for the help, at least I know for sure it isn't BT before I start.
Woody
mikealder said:
I am pretty sure it is a Mini S he is trying to get to work with the cabled GPS receiver, it simply will not work - the device doesn't have a serial port to connect equipment like this to. The Mini S is Bluetooth only for GPS AFAIK - Mike
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OK I got the download working from Sidd, thanks. I ran through all the steps you had mentioned. The problem I had is that I don't get the option of 'serial cable blah blah', mine just says 'Serial port'.
My phone is a Mini S. Perhaps this is the reason why. My friend has a bluetooth model, and I got that working fine so I guess if this last attempt doesn't work I will just buy another GPS. It isn't like they are expensive in truth.
Thanks everyone for the help, and sorry for my delay in posting but it being Xmas and all.
Cheers
Woody
If u r going for a bluetooth gps device then keep one thing in mind that u might find difficulty in searching of the proper bluetooth com port. Soltution is to download the TomTom version 5.2 prior to connect ur device.
GoodLuck & let me know
Sidd
Fantastic post
Thanks Sidd, your word doc (Serial COM Port setting to setup TomTom.doc) worked a treat, two mins and I'm up and running. I'm using spv m1500 (same as xda 2) with a cheap unbranded cabled gps unit i got from fleabay and TomTom 5.2. Thanks again.
Can I re-iterate for the benefit of others reading this post, the newer XDA device (equipped with a mini USB connection point) cannot be used with a wired GPS unit, this includes the Mini-S, Exec, Orbit etc. The older devices IIs, IIi etc all require the Receive all beams to be turned of to free up the serial port for use by the wired GPS.
If your device has a mini USB connector your only option is Bluetooth for GPS - Mike
Doc114 said:
Thanks Sidd, your word doc (Serial COM Port setting to setup TomTom.doc) worked a treat, two mins and I'm up and running. I'm using spv m1500 (same as xda 2) with a cheap unbranded cabled gps unit i got from fleabay and TomTom 5.2. Thanks again.
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No problem Doc114 my pleasure, any way I am also going to upload something new on the FTP (check in: ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Software/) with another brief instruction manual, enjoy the new one, you know what I mean (My name would be included in the file name, so you can recognise it easily).
I will also make one illustrated instruction for a bluetooth GPS setting whenever got a device.
Sidd

Bluetooth Navman 4400 not working..?

Hi all,
Just a quick question:
On my Hermes I have detected and setup my Bluetooth Navman 4400 via the Bluetooth Manager. Under Comm Ports it is showing as Com5. Authentication Pass Key Required is checked (Though I have tried both On & Off). In Settings/Connections/GPS I have set the Active port for Applications to 4 and the Hardware Port to 5 (Baud Rate 4800).
I have Tried OziExplorer and the Applet "GPS Info" and neither seem to get or instigate a session with the Navman device.. Now I have noticed that the Navman Continues to "Double Blink" which means it has not instigated a session with anything and thus is blissfully unaware that the Hermes should or is trying to communicate with it.
Funny thing is, the Navman unit works perfectly with my 2003SE Blue Angle PDA..
So am I doing something wrong or made and oversight?
Any Help would be appreciated..
Thankyou in advance..
outgoing com port
apologies if this was obvious to you when you set it up.
Make sure when you set up com port to associate with your navman, that you pick 'outgoing' and not 'incoming'. this was not obvious to me because I was thinking of the direction of data flow, not which side initiates the connection. I would re-pair and reconfigure the port a few times, but I suspect you already have. I use com9 with my iblue, perhaps com5 is already used by something else.
wwwes said:
apologies if this was obvious to you when you set it up.
Make sure when you set up com port to associate with your navman, that you pick 'outgoing' and not 'incoming'. this was not obvious to me because I was thinking of the direction of data flow, not which side initiates the connection. I would re-pair and reconfigure the port a few times, but I suspect you already have. I use com9 with my iblue, perhaps com5 is already used by something else.
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Yeah had similar problems initially, but got that sorted (In & Out). I was told that The GPS Manager would handle the "in's" I just need to set the OUT (Hardware)..
If you try to use an allocated Port (say Com6) it comes up with an error indicating the port is not available.
My GPS Software (Both Oziexplorer & GPS Info) both show the port allocated by the GPS manager as "active" ..
All strange'ness to me..

Bluetooth GPS Help

Now, do excuse me if i'm having my normal blonde moments but i think i am going to need help before i throw my MDA in the bin for good.
I brought TomTom Nav 6 which arrived today, has gone onto my phone and works perfect.
I already had a GPS Device from when i had Nav 5 and used an XDA (which for me was much better as bluetooth actually worked properly)
No matter what i try, my GPS Device cannot be found. I have paired them the best i can, i have set up an Outgoing COM port on 7 (this is using the GPS Device's name) and an Incoming on 6.
Is there anything else i can try of have i just wasted £150?
Thanks
Cheryl
Hi Cheryl,
Just to try and help you a little, can I suggest the following.
In Bluetooth settings/com ports, delete the port you have assigned to your GPS.
Then delete the GPS from the Devices list and re-discover and re pair it again.
While you are in this paring process, there will be a box labelled "Secure connection", (Or something like that)
Make sure it has not got a tick in it. The secure connection affects the pairing somehow.
When you have paired the GPS, go back to the Com Ports section and tap New OUTGOING Connection and assign it to Com6.
This is what my TT6 is set to and works very well.
I hope that helps.
Thanks for your help, thats perfect and it works.
Do you know why my Active Sync has now stopped working?? I am very think when it comes to PCs. It worked earlier, now it doesnt. In settings it says No Com Ports Available?
Cheers
Chez
Sorry for taking so long to reply.
When you set the com port for the GPS, before you asked on here, you set it to com 7 didnt you?
Ok, if so, have you made sure you have deleted that from the settings??
i.e: You should only have Com 6 set for your GPS and no others.
Other than that, I wouldnt know what to suggest, sorry.

Bluetooth problem

Trying to get navigator to work and got a pairing problem. For some reason I cannot select com ports apart from 0,2 and 8. All the others it says " The com port could not be created. Please check your settings and try again.". I only have a bluetooth headset paired, but surely that is not using all the other ports. TT won't also allow me select other comp ports apart form 6, which I obviously cannot set up.
? Is there a check to see if the GPS receiver is paired succesfully without using TT. All the lights seemto show they are communicating, but TT can't see it.
? is there a program that can be edited in the software to force a com port to be used.
Sorry for what may be trifling issues, but any help appreciated

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