Dear all,
I'm new here, I've had a good look through the forum, but I feel a lot of the information is a little over my head. I was hoping for some advice for my new MiniS out of the box:
Regarding setting up my device, are there any programs I should or shouldn't install? Or anything I should uninstall immediately?
Am I better off with the O2 ROM, or is there another I should flash my device with?
Are there any particularly good pieces of software that you could recommend?
Thank-you very much for your help,
s_h_a_h_i_d
look at htc magician forumpart (topics)
look at htc magician forumpart (topics)
Surely since the XDA Mini S is an HTC Wizard, not a Magician, he'd be better off looking at the Wizard forum?
o2 mini is a magician init
Yes, but the thread title refers to an O2 Mini S.....
He is refering to MiniS mate.
HA HA, Now that the squabbles are over, , I'd like to add my bit.
The best thing anyone can do first off with the MINI S is toss that o2 customised crap right off.
I am assuming you have'nt put too much on it yet
Press the soft reset button. (Under the IR port)
As you let go of that reset button, make sure you are pressing both the comm manager button, AND the voice buttons. Thats the top left side and upper right side buttons.
This is called a hard reset and WILL ERASE EVERYTHING prom the phones memory.
Do the screen calibration and cut/paste bit.
When it say's "Tap the screen to start using your device", be ready to press the soft reset again.
This is because when you tap the screen, a customisation box will appear.
PRESS THE RESET BUTTON, when you see this box.
The phone reboots and hey presto, proper PDA, not o2's idea of one.
Hope this helps.
Just to add to the above, there is a thread on here regarding decent software for the PDA.
Have a look through the thread list and you'll see it.
I would recommend Resco as a decent file manager with some excellent features. Be careful with some of these tools if you are not sure what you are doing.
Other than that, have fun.
Press send to restore factory default, other keys to quit
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So which key is the send button?
EDIT: 4th time lucky, the green one
Horrorwood said:
Press send to restore factory default, other keys to quit
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So which key is the send button?
EDIT: 4th time lucky, the green one
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LOL, oops, sorry forgot about that bit!!! :?
Hi Jerry-S and everyone.
I've just got a T-Mobile MDA Vario, the Wizard version of T-Mobile.
Would you recommend me doing the same hard reset so that I can get rid of T-Mobile settings?
My Device Information shows:
ROM version: 1.6.2.4 WWE
ROM date: 11/15/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM version: 1.6.2.105
Can I update to a newer ROM and if yes where can I download it and how can I update ROM, please?
Thanks for your help.
Rgds,
PPB
Hi BUSPBP,
I am a relatively new user myself and won't offer advice on anything I am not sure of.
I have seen ROM updates on here for other networks but as I am on o2 and running my most recent ROM, I can't comment.
Just to be sure you understand though, the updating of a rom that isn't specifically for your unit has many risks. At the end of the day, it's up to you so just put ROM in the search page and have a look at what comes up.
As for removing the Network Provider software, I would assume that the process is the same for them all, as the extra operator features are installed from an extended ROM.
That's to say, the main OS is installed first and then the extra stuff installs afterward.
If you can replace things that you have put on your phone then give it a go, it'll either work or not.
At the end of the day, if you like the extra things and want them back, do another hard reset and let everything install as it wants.
Hope this helps.
Hi Jerry-S,
Thanks for your help. After reading through some threads in this forum I've decided to upgrade my Wizard with the new Qtek ROM. It now works much faster and I don't have any more problem with Wifi connection.
Can you or anybody please advise what does the ExtROM do and if I can exclude it from the device? Any good in doing this?
PPB
If you think of it this way, it's a little easier to understand.
When the device is new or has a hard reset, the following happens.
(If I get this wrong, I'm sure someone will let me know. LOL)
1. The device powers up and a section called the Bootloader starts.
2. As the operating system is not there, it installs it from a ROM.
3. The operating system then runs and you do the stylus calibration
and the date / time settings
4. That is the PDA set up.
5. After that, another ROM is installed, (If you let it), which contains all
the customised software for your particular phone company supplier.
All it means is that the basic Windows OS is running at the same time as the custom software and the Windows functions are accessed by the company customisations that you are presented with.
Because of this, the processor in the PDA is working in effect, twice as hard and it is slower.
As far as I am aware, there is nothing in this custom layer that can't be done directly in the Windows layer.
I would like to upgrade my ROM also as the o2 ROM is one of the oldest versions released, but as I see it, once installed, there is currently no way to downgrade back to the previous version if something goes wrong. Thats the only reason I have'nt done it.
As for removing it completely, I am not sure. I have seen posts on here reffering to that, but I think it is contained somewhere that you couldn't make use of anyway. i.e. Making use of the extra storage space that it takes up.
I know I get a bit long winded, but I have a bit of a job explaining stuff. LOL, sorry.
Hi Jerry-S,
I remember someone told that we could prevent the ExtROM from installation by soft-resetting before that process, but since I don't know yet what are included in the ExtROM and if there's any good in doing so I haven't tried it yet.
I don't know if the O2 device and network settings have anything too special that you could hardly set. In my case though I've got the T-Mobile version I am actually using Orange, so it's perhaps easier for me to come to the decision. And it's worth it for me. No problem with the upgrade, given that I've unlocked CID in advance as someone has warned. And the device is running much faster. That has even halted my intension of doing the overclock, at least for now
PPB
Comments recieved.
I must admit, I kept looking and looking at the ROM file on my computer thinking errrrrrrmmmmm...............
Well I did it, but I didn't notice any real increase in speed, actually it seemed slower to me.
That in mind I though, balls and put the o2 Rom back on.
As for the EXT ROM reatures, I think the main advantage is that the MMS and Mobile web settings are set for you, but those could be found quite easily.
Hi, I got a tmobile mda exec. I 've read this forum post about the method to remove, and perma-delete the extended rom software, aka 'extra marketing and branding crap'.
I'm keen, but I was wondering if somehow other TMobile users had tried it first . I kinda suspect some of those cabs might be required for even operating the device on the tmobile network, but I may be wrong (I hope i'm wrong!)
So, if anyone has successfully removed all the tmob stuff from their device by using the hardreset+softreset before it installs trick, please please, let me know if your phone still works!
TIA!
Your device will work. Stick a SIM in and you can make calls.
However, you probably won't have the right settings in for WAP, the color scheme will be WM default rather than pretty pink, the extra apps that you get (Skype? IntelliDialler? etc.) will be missing and you might also have less than optimal performance from a couple of WM programs. I know that my Orange .CABs install a couple of tweaks for PIE and Calendar.
If you are uncertain, sync your PDA then try it both ways.
Hard reset, skip the ExtROM and see how WM5 goes.
Hard reset again, let the .CABs load and see what has changed.
Do it this way round because I think you will probably find life eaiser with the customisations.
Either way, once the .CABs are installed you don't need them any more and if you back up (with Sprite or SPB) your device you can always restore your configuration without having to put the ExtROM back in there.
Hello all!
I broke the screen on my second MDA (first one was lost), and I have just recieved my replacement from T-Mobile insurance. I want to copy/clone/mirror my old MDA which includes my contacts/apps/mms/settings/etc. to my new MDA.
Unfortunately there is no way I can install a backup program i.e. SPB backup and configure it with a broken screen. Is there a lowerlevel way of mirroring not just the firmware but also all of the user partition as well without having to use the screen?
Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks.
Try to install Pocket Controller (professionel) You get your screen on your pc. Then install spb backup and make a backup....
Try reading the wiki on how to do a rom/partition backup with mtty and the bootloader. It's risky writing that info back to another device (in case there are any hardware changes between the devices etc), but better then nothing.
V
Pocket Controller!! Wow, exactly the solution I was looking for. I am so glad that this proggy exists. Mtty, should work as well, they are both G4's.
You guys are great. Thanks!
Hi all, PLEASE HELP! I have tried searching for a remedy.
Since I joined this forum, I had lots of fun tweaking whatever I wanted! now I think i accidentally used wrong graphic cabs or something for Comm Manager!
NOW it looks like this!
(I though a SPRITE restore would undo it, but it didnt..)
Anyone can help me tweak the registry again?
or maybe a cab file somewhere for the original sizes and buttons. (I think I will still dare to try any other tweaks except comm manager related!-It may affect my phone!)
Thanks in advance...
NOTE THAT screen capture utility was visible because the comm manager graphic was small..& became "transparent"
hi..just wanted to say that it got fixed "accidentally" when I installed whatever cab files related to comm manager i found on the internet..(about 5 cab files- i guess some for VGA/QVGA etc)..when I uninstalled the cab files..it went back to normal...yeah!
AGAIN!!!??
daddypool said:
Hi all, PLEASE HELP! I have tried searching for a remedy.
Since I joined this forum, I had lots of fun tweaking whatever I wanted! now I think i accidentally used wrong graphic cabs or something for Comm Manager!
NOW it looks like this!
(I though a SPRITE restore would undo it, but it didnt..)
Anyone can help me tweak the registry again?
or maybe a cab file somewhere for the original sizes and buttons. (I think I will still dare to try any other tweaks except comm manager related!-It may affect my phone!)
Thanks in advance...
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Sigh...a leopard never changes its spots...
I "fooled" around with my Dopod 900 again, & this same problem appears...but this time it is not fixed...any kind soul has a remedy for the graphics??? thks in advance!
I keep seeing the fancy looking home screen plug in for WM 6. Is there a similar home screen plug in from HTC for WM 5 that I can use with my 8525? If so how can I get it? Is it free? How do I install it? And I do not know how to do what you guys refer to as reg hacks - so should I just stay away from the topic? I did do some searching and everything comes up under WM 6, or it is not clear if it is WM 5 or 6. Also, I do not want to do anything that will void my warranty - will it? I appreciate any responses. Sorry for being the worlds biggest newbie.
I can't tell you too much about the HTC Home Screen because of I am not using it!
However, 'hacking' the registry will not avoid your warranty! In case you do something wrong: simply hard reset your device and everything should be back to normal and factory default!
If you want to be able to access your PDA's registry you will need a REGISTRY EDITOR installed on your PDA. There are plenty good ones out there! I personally use RESCO EXPLORER 2007 + REGISTRY ADD-IN. You can find a trial version here: http://www.resco.net/pocketpc/explorer/default.asp
To get your HOME SCREEN fancy looking: even here you can find lots of stuff without having to hack anything! One really good application which changes not only your TODAY SCREEN is SPB MOBILE SHELL - more info here: http://spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/?en
Both application I mentioned above are commercial products but trial versions are available as free download! There are hundreds of free application all over the web which will help you to personalize your PDA - just search Google and see what it comes up with!
Hope that helps?
Thanks. A couple quick questions. I can not tell if it is free or not. It has me agree to a bunch of legal stuff, but I do not see any mention of it being free/trial or what a charge would be? Do I do the CAB file?
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Thanks. A couple quick questions. I can not tell if it is free or not. It has me agree to a bunch of legal stuff, but I do not see any mention of it being free/trial or what a charge would be? Do I do the CAB file?
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Its free, dont know if it will work on wm5 havent seen a version working yet on wm5. I suggest just reading the forum for the next two weeks or so. After about a good 20 you will nolonger be a noob. At that time I would suggest upgrading to wm6 and you will have no issues getting this on your phone.
Thanks again for the help on this. If there is not a high degree of knowing that will work on WM 5 does anyone of on that will work?
JBA said:
Thanks again for the help on this. If there is not a high degree of knowing that will work on WM 5 does anyone of on that will work?
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Did a quick google search...See this htchome wm5 thread (posted on prophet device but for wm5):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322439
JBA said:
Thanks. A couple quick questions. I can not tell if it is free or not. It has me agree to a bunch of legal stuff, but I do not see any mention of it being free/trial or what a charge would be? Do I do the CAB file?
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You can do the cab or the exe - what ever you prefer!
The cab file needs to be copied to the PPC, the setup you run directly on your desktop while your PPC is connected via ActiveSync or MDC.
Both programs I mentioned are running fine under Windows Mobile 5. I used them for more than a year on my T-Mobile MDA WM5 and later on my Hermes.