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i just bought a 4gb topram mini sd card. i saw that most pocket pc read thisbut then again i wanna be sure ....
does the o2 xda atom (the one with the 416 mhz processor) read a 4gb card?
pls reply soon...i need to know
I'm trying to figure out the same thing myself.
The official O2 Website says that the maximum mini sd card they've tested is 2GB.
I'm not sure if a 4GB one will work.... I dunno??
andyv said:
i just bought a 4gb topram mini sd card. i saw that most pocket pc read thisbut then again i wanna be sure ....
does the o2 xda atom (the one with the 416 mhz processor) read a 4gb card?
pls reply soon...i need to know
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Hi, I was using a 4gb mini SD card on my Atom until recently when I brought Gigabyte GSmart i300. So, there shouldn't be any problems.
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Hi, I was using a 4gb mini SD card on my Atom until recently when I brought Gigabyte GSmart i300. So, there shouldn't be any problems.
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Thanks for sharing the info.... would you reckon a Sandisk 4gb mini SD will work on the original atom ?
There are 4gig miniSDs? I only heard of 4gig miniSDHC. If SDHC worked on Atom, I'll be wildly happy. >_>
wats the difference between SDHC and mini SD?
omg thanks Invisible Sense for the info, i just hope this one actually works on mine cos i cant be sure, it could depend on the memory card make or firmware version.
and yer, its been mentioned in quite a lot of sites around...wot exactly is the difference between sd and sdhc? someone reply pls
sdhc is new tech pretty much, lets manufactures to make higher capacity... and the HC is just that means high capacity, they come in ratings of class 2-6 atm as far as speeds, unlike the sd ones which would have like x50 x120 x150 etc... and it will say most time sdhc or sd high capacity
i believe it has to be hardware support for sdhc, so no firmware cant just be made for it to work without hardware change
i am using a utek 4g mini sd on my atom life, transferred more than 3g of mp3s and movies to the 4g mini sd, so far so good, no problem at all with the utek 4g mini sd, hope this helps.
does it affect the memory?
the hc only varies speed right? not like 4 gb equivalent to 8? cos its high CAPACITY not high PERFORMANCE :S which should be associated with speed. i dont get it ..
capacity means contain...contain is storage....
oh and atom life is one of the best out right now ..so it would obviously take a 4gb card..i meant the normal regular O2 xda atom
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card#SDHC
that might help you understand the difference
Disregarding the wiki, the difference is not just in the storage. It's in the driver. The limits are hardcoded and you have to redo the entire driver just to get it to read - and because these drivers are proprietary, you only get SDHC if your vendor chooses to integrate 'em. You're otherwise sadly out of luck.
(I still think SDHC doesn't require new hardware - vendors are spewing out a load of crock as an excuse to not support the older stuff. Especially when you consider that there exist camera firmware updates that convert slots for SDHC use out there - for cameras that were made WAY before even the 2.0 format was on the table. Even Sony's memory stick slots only required a driver update - SD, the reverse engineered clone of the Memory Stick standard, should not be any different.)
I have a Adata MyFlash 4MB x150 card and this runs fine, the TT5 runs of this and is very quick, no problems with WMA or camera pics.
By the way this is an XDA Exec, latest firmware
ynnebte said:
i am using a utek 4g mini sd on my atom life, transferred more than 3g of mp3s and movies to the 4g mini sd, so far so good, no problem at all with the utek 4g mini sd, hope this helps.
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Where did u get it from and how much does it cost?
Could u please give us the link?
Thanks !
Hi Rizwan,
I got my 4gb Mini SD from the website below.
It's now only £29.99 and mine came in just 2 days and that was back in December.
Hope this helps!
http://www.mobymemory.com/1GB_2GB_mini_SD_miniSD_Memory_Cards_fromSanDisk_and_MobyMemory.asp
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Hi Rizwan,
I got my 4gb Mini SD from the website below.
It's now only £29.99 and mine came in just 2 days and that was back in December.
Hope this helps!
http://www.mobymemory.com/1GB_2GB_mini_SD_miniSD_Memory_Cards_fromSanDisk_and_MobyMemory.asp
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Many thanks for the link!
How is the speed on the card though? Is it slower than say a 2gb do u know?
I did have a 2gb miniSD before and can't tell any difference.
I do transfer a lot of data such as movies and music so have been used to the speed of the two cards. I will say though, having a 4gb card was far more important to me then speed, therefore I didn't care about the speed much.
My new phone Gigabyte i300 comes with USB 2.0 and I must say the speed of data transfer is amazingly quick.
Invisible Sense said:
I did have a 2gb miniSD before and can't tell any difference.
I do transfer a lot of data such as movies and music so have been used to the speed of the two cards. I will say though, having a 4gb card was far more important to me then speed, therefore I didn't care about the speed much.
My new phone Gigabyte i300 comes with USB 2.0 and I must say the speed of data transfer is amazingly quick.
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Yeah you're right...... as long as it ain't too slow, speed isn't as much an issue as capacity.
I just bought an atom a couple of weeks back....I think I'll go for the 4gb card when my atom arrives!
Thanks a million for sharing the info!
many thanks
thanks for all the info ... uv really helped me out... many members here seem enthusiastic to help out...im glad i found this forum. ill let u guys know when i receive the card. i bought it from ebay btw...just in case anyone wants to know where i purchased it..
thanks
well when you think of the speeds, IMO it is a big deal esp when running apps on the miniSD anything that will precache etc...
but you might not notice speed difference because depending on your device, you might have to plug the card into a usb 2.0 card reader to get the benefits of higher speeds... and even then some card readers cant match it...
all i know is through device its slow if your using hte active sync i belive, if you do like one some devices as a card reader i believe it will work with usb 2.0 then, but active sync might be slow 1.1 usb?
also it seems that on the US side, the good high mem 2gb 4gb miniSD are missing, ebay has some but some brands are crap and going with oem can be fishy, if you guys read the issues with the other 4gb cards dieing and what not..
Hi guys,
Lately ive been trying to get Android running on my HD2…
Ive successfully flashed the HD2 to android friendly ROMs, and installed versions of Android to my SD card… but I cannot get it to run.
I have read some things about needing a certain SD (file system, or a certain type of card/partion size?)… can someone please tell me if my SD card is android compatible… if I can just format it or if I need another card?
The SD card I have is a SanDisk 16GB MicroSDHC. I thought I heard something about needing a “Level/Class 4” or something, but I don’t know what that means.
I hope this question makes enough sense, and someone can break it down for me.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
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Hi guys,
Lately ive been trying to get Android running on my HD2…
Ive successfully flashed the HD2 to android friendly ROMs, and installed versions of Android to my SD card… but I cannot get it to run.
I have read some things about needing a certain SD (file system, or a certain type of card/partion size?)… can someone please tell me if my SD card is android compatible… if I can just format it or if I need another card?
The SD card I have is a SanDisk 16GB MicroSDHC. I thought I heard something about needing a “Type 4” or something, but I don’t know what that means.
I hope this question makes enough sense, and someone can break it down for me.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Cheers.
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your sd card is fine. I've ran many android builds off that microSD, which if I'm assuming correctly is the one that comes with the HD2. Do a full format, not quick (so uncheck that box in windows). The preferred allocation size is 32k. If that doesn't work try formatting with SDFormatter
Thanks for your reply mate.
It is the SD card that came with my HD2, but I have the Telstra Version (T9193), so im not sure if it shipped with the same SD card world-wide.
I have just done some more research on the Class/Level Numbers of these SD cards, and I think the Class/Level Number is marked on the card with a circle around it, if that’s the case I have a Class/Level 2 card.
Thanks again for your reply, hopefully once I format the card, I will have more success than I had previously had.
Cheers.
one more thing though... what filesystem should i format the card to?
cheers.
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one more thing though... what filesystem should i format the card to?
cheers.
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FAT32, always
Edit: Yes, SanDisk class 2 is the same card mine came with. I've heard of some people getting them with 2GB cards, but I think for the most part 16GB calss 2 are what most people got.
no problem, thank you for your help.
it says right on the box it comes with a 16gb sd card.. if yours came with something else then the rep or the store owner took the 16gb card out and replaced it.
some shady stores would do this and try to sell you the card it came with.
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it says right on the box it comes with a 16gb sd card.. if yours came with something else then the rep or the store owner took the 16gb card out and replaced it.
some shady stores would do this and try to sell you the card it came with.
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i have no doubt the card i have is the card i was supposed to receive, i just wasnt sure if it was compatible with android.
cheers man.
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it says right on the box it comes with a 16gb sd card.. if yours came with something else then the rep or the store owner took the 16gb card out and replaced it.
some shady stores would do this and try to sell you the card it came with.
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Tmous got 16gb cards. Euro got 2gb ones.
Corrections, and swift answer
Firstly, flash storage devices marked as class 2 or class 4 would have nothing to do with comptibilty. Flash storage classes are the specifications of the maximum theoretical limit transfer speeds for that type of flash storage device. Take a look at this wiki article to learn more at wiki secure digital class rating article. Next, the type of storage device needs to be specified as microSD rather than SD since they are different flash types. And lastly the proper terms for storage sizes need to be used. GB means Gigabyte which is 1x10^9 bytes or 8x10^9 bits as 8 bits=1 byte, and Gb is Gigabit. The problem doesn't lie in the syntax or intended use of, it lies in the dumbing down, so should someone be wanting to learn these things they are getting taught wrong.
And for the swift answer, no class never makes a difference on compatiblity just whether it has the suffix HC or not, which stands for High Capacity as is reserved for any storage amount of 4GB to 32GB in which case is goes to XC which stands for extreme capactity and is reserved for 64GB to 2TB(TB=terabytes). The only reason this matters is each type of suffix is actually signifying a new type of transfer protocol which requires a firmware upgrade to read the new format(key work firmware not hardware, as one example even the oldest SD card reader could read a 128GB card with a proper firmware upgrade, albiet at lower transfer rates). And the format fat32 is typically used as the standard external storage filesystem.
I hope this answers any and all questions, always remember, what your writing doesn't just apply to you and your not the only one involved. Your words reflect like a butterflies wings.
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Firstly, flash storage devices marked as class 2 or class 4 would have nothing to do with comptibilty. Flash storage classes are the specifications of the maximum theoretical limit transfer speeds for that type of flash storage device. Take a look at this wiki article to learn more at wiki secure digital class rating article. Next, the type of storage device needs to be specified as microSD rather than SD since they are different flash types. And lastly the proper terms for storage sizes need to be used. GB means Gigabyte which is 1x10^9 bytes or 8x10^9 bits as 8 bits=1 byte, and Gb is Gigabit. The problem doesn't lie in the syntax or intended use of, it lies in the dumbing down, so should someone be wanting to learn these things they are getting taught wrong.
And for the swift answer, no class never makes a difference on compatiblity just whether it has the suffix HC or not, which stands for High Capacity as is reserved for any storage amount of 4GB to 32GB in which case is goes to XC which stands for extreme capactity and is reserved for 64GB to 2TB(TB=terabytes). The only reason this matters is each type of suffix is actually signifying a new type of transfer protocol which requires a firmware upgrade to read the new format(key work firmware not hardware, as one example even the oldest SD card reader could read a 128GB card with a proper firmware upgrade, albiet at lower transfer rates). And the format fat32 is typically used as the standard external storage filesystem.
I hope this answers any and all questions, always remember, what your writing doesn't just apply to you and your not the only one involved. Your words reflect like a butterflies wings.
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Whilst your knowledge is great, the fact that you're unnecessarily bringing up an old thread from 2010 is not. I understand the need for 10 posts, and using your knowledge to help others in order to get 10 posts is the best way of doing it, but do it on new threads rather than old ones please.
I bought a new nook color the other day. It has 1.0.2 on it and looks like it has only 1G available in the about section.
I was able to create and SD card with CM7 (7.0.3) and boot from it just fine. However, just about any application I open force closes repeatedly. What is my best option with the newer partitioned nook to get a stable build where things work (including Ad-hoc wireless)? I've looked around and there is quite a few threads on how to do a lot of this but from what I've read (and possibly misunderstood) a lot of these are for the older partitioned nooks.
I like the idea of being able to run off an SD card and boot back to my regular nook when I want / need to. Also it appears that you can just root the regular nook OS and be able to use the market and associated apps along with it. I think for me that would be perfect. All I really want is to be able to install a few apps off the market. (who wants to pay 2.99 for Angry birds when it's free!?!?)
Considering the previous I would like some input as to what my best option would be.
OBTW - running the CM7 from an 8 GB Class 10 card if that makes a difference.
Thanks in advance.
In my experience the SD card makes a big difference. The class 10 doesn't really help you with this SD card approach. The random read/write speed is important and the class doesn't correlate with that. I would suggest getting a class 4 SANDISK 8 GB card and repeating the process. I had force closes with a class 6 Transcend 8 GB and have no problems with the SANDISK. I could be wrong, but I don't think that the partition should matter for the SD card ROMers like us. Everything runs from the card, so the internal partitions don't matter.
^ Correctomundo.
You'd probably find all your troubles gone the moment you ditch that Class 10 card and use a Sandisk Class 4/8G. Just make sure you get a genuine card from a reputable dealer. 4 in 10 Sandisk cards are fake.
I am having this issue right now. I used the most recent verygreen with one of the recent nightly builds running on an 8 gig Kingston class 4 card. I did a SD card test and got read/writes at 6mps. Would a switch to a Sandisk really cure my problems? I have a 16gb class 2 in my phone. Can I just image my 8gb with all the apps, etc on it to the 16gb card and it will start right up? Thx.
The cards that have been found to work well most consistently are Sandisk 8GB and 16GB, class 2, 4 or unclassed. There is some variation between cards of the same make and class.
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I am having this issue right now. I used the most recent verygreen with one of the recent nightly builds running on an 8 gig Kingston class 4 card. I did a SD card test and got read/writes at 6mps. Would a switch to a Sandisk really cure my problems? I have a 16gb class 2 in my phone. Can I just image my 8gb with all the apps, etc on it to the 16gb card and it will start right up? Thx.
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That card and plan should work fine. After you write the 8GB image to the 16GB card, just extend the SDcard partition to take up the unallocated space. You could also do a Titanium Back-up to Dropbox (or just save a copy of the TB folder to your PC), write a fresh verygreen install to the 16GB, then restore through TB.
Get your Sandisk card from somewhere with a good return policy. My first Sandisk class 2 8GB was awful, awful, awful. My 2nd was silly fast.
I had a SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 card and I wondered if my Mango-tized HD2 would even recognize it.
It certainly appears to. I dunno, but that seems like news.
www passagestudio.com/images/64gbMangoHD2.jpg
Drecker said:
I had a SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 card and I wondered if my Mango-tized HD2 would even recognize it.
It certainly appears to. I dunno, but that seems like news.
www passagestudio.com/images/64gbMangoHD2.jpg
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Id say thats news given that 64GB Micro SDs didnt exist when our HD2 was born.
To be honest, i dunno what id use that much space for, i dont think id ever fill a 32GB SD let alone that monster!
There was a time when id have dual booted android, but i cant be bothered with all that now WP is pretty much perfect on the HD2,
Hi.... Just wondering... Did you experience any change in battery drain and smooth running of the rom after installing 64gig sd card ,
And which rom unr using currently...
This is epic for someone like me! I'm one of those people that fills up 16 gigs in no time flat! 32 sounds nice, but 64 gigs!!!! I'm in heaven, I need to get one. How much did the 64gb card cost you?
Any updates on whether this works yet? I would like to upgrade from 32Gb soon.
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Seems he has 64gb working, what's your battery life like with that card? I think SD card the main reason we all experience such different levels of life...
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I am on HTC hd2 I put a post somewhere saying that I am now on a dual boot with 64Gb Tf card in HTC hd2, works a treat
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I also saw a bid on YouTube for the Hd7 folks of someone stripping down phone and fitting a 64gb SD in.
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wow. amazing. does it mean that hd2 supports part of SDXC? can you use all of the storage volume;about 59GB?
I have mine split, but yes if you so choose, you can use all of the storage on the sd card, currently i have Everything working on the phone, running really smooth, only thing is that my carrier signal/reception is good, but for some reason the radio on this rom seems weaker than normal, Question for anyone that knows, is there a better one ready yet, I am on Orange.
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I have mine split, but yes if you so choose, you can use all of the storage on the sd card, currently i have Everything working on the phone, running really smooth, only thing is that my carrier signal/reception is good, but for some reason the radio on this rom seems weaker than normal, Question for anyone that knows, is there a better one ready yet, I am on Orange.
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THing with Radios is that firstly we have 2 different radios to deal with, and secondly different networks and signal strength areas will do better with different radios, so you may find that the latest and greatest radio is actually worse than the first radio available because its been stripped from a phone on say, the O2 network.
Trial and error appears to be the best, or ask folk on your network what they use, ideally in your own country and even better near you,
On Amazon,
SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 Memory Card with SD Adapter - Retail Packaging by SanDisk
Buy new: $160.00
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According to the SETTINGS|about page, I have 59.25GB Total Storage.
Battery life is not stellar, though I haven't really done any work to optimize that.
SDXC
Basically... All SDXC cards will work...
The thing is, this is how the cards are supposed to be shipped:
SD => FAT
SDHC => FAT32
SDXC => exFAT
Any SDXC card can be formatted as FAT32 to work with SDHC compatible devices. The OS "decides" how much of the storage capacity can actually be allocated.
Since microsoft probably took note of SDXC during development, windows phone uses a file format that either supports exFAT (which is a MS file format) or formats the cards in a file system that supports over 64gigs. Windows phone supports SD cards under 32 gig, so it supports FAT32 and FAT anyways (to be reformatted in the device)
Long story short, as soon as a device supports exFAT it is SDXC compatible. if a device supports FAT32, any SD card formatted in FAT32 works.
Will the 64GB SDXC card work with the original Windows Mobile 6.5 ?
Does exFAT work on WM6.5?
Wohooooo 64 Gb for what?
Yep got a dual booting 64gb SanDisk class 6 over here.
30.8 in windows
30.5 in android
(couldn't find a way to put more in android than windows b/c ad sd and wp7 nand.)
Battery drain seems the same. Check everytime I boot constantly to see if the current is -400 or -4.
Such a pain in the anus.
Go hd2!!!!!!!
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Yep got a dual booting 64gb SanDisk class 6 over here.
30.8 in windows
30.5 in android
(couldn't find a way to put more in android than windows b/c ad sd and wp7 nand.)
Battery drain seems the same. Check everytime I boot constantly to see if the current is -400 or -4.
Such a pain in the anus.
Go hd2!!!!!!!
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Doing the samething here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711310
Seeing as how Windows Phones uses the partition type exFAT, it'd be no problem picking up the 64Gb card since that is what it is formatted as.
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Doing the samething here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1711310
Seeing as how Windows Phones uses the partition type exFAT, it'd be no problem picking up the 64Gb card since that is what it is formatted as.
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In regards to the SanDisk Ultra 64GB SDXC...over the last couple of days I installed the NexusHD2 v2.3 and set the card up with 8GB EXT4 and 52GB FAT32. It ran slightly slower than NAND but I adjusted the CPU speed to compensate and overall a darn good experience. My next adventure was to dual boot both NexusHD2 and Pdaimatejam's WP7.8 and I split the card pretty much right down the middle taken into account the 200MB FAT32 WP7.8 creates upon it being deleted and for one brief moment you have only 2 partitions before continuing to create the EXT4 partition. WP7.8 will works up to a point and then begins the reboot loop. I understand there's a way to image a smaller memory card onto the 64 gig card and that's what I will be doing next. In the meanwhile I did successfully load Pdaimatejam's ROM into NAND but the key here is that card must be formatted as exFAT; otherwise it too will reboot endlessly. My only use for Android are CoPilot Navigation and Google Navigation and Skype; otherwise I prefer Windows Phone for one reason and one only; it runs as smooth as silk but WP7.8 lacks what WP8.x now haves...good GPS Navs, what my Titans and HD2 have is customization and that is a sticking point for me in regards to upgrading to the Lumia 92x series.
Anybody know if the A500 is capable of using the 59.4GB formatted space on the SanDisk 64GB Mobile Ultra MicroSDXC Class 6 Memory Card?
edit: answer = Yes with setup tip provided by ojones838
I may be wrong but I'm fairly certain that it only supports up to 32gb microsd
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I may be wrong but I'm fairly certain that it only supports up to 32gb microsd
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That's strange, is there big difference between supporting 32gb and 64gb? I would have thought that when in development they would have made sure it supported the largest microsd on the market. 64gb (59) would be nice to have.
well, i googled, thanks for making me second-guess myself. here's your answer.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/acer-iconia-a500/141186-64gb-external-microsd-card.html
Yep. Others here have said that it works. It just won't work with FAT due to the limits of the FS. FAT32 or NTFS will work.
Guys,
I have used this SD card for months and it works like a champ. All I had to do was to format the SD in another device since the A500 has no provision for formatting a SD card. I formatted mine in my Galaxy S II, Epic 4G Touch(my first 64G SD Card went in this device anyway). Since then neither device has skipped a beat. The SD cards are expensive though. So be very careful taking them out of your device. ALWAYS unmount it or Eject it within file mgr before removing it. Also handle with care. More questions? Just ask...
Update: That's right! You don't have to unmount or eject it after use in the A500. As a matter of fact there's NO option to do so... But if you use it in another device you may need to unmount or eject it.
Just to add to the information given, a few weeks ago I bought from Woot a "Centon 64Gb Class 10" SDXC card (not micro...full size) for $55 and am using it happily with my A500. I use it with a Targus USB card reader and attach it to the full size USB port on the A500. The only snag which occurred originally was that I used "SD's" own application to format it and it would only format in "Ext", this turned out to be unreadable by the A500 but I resolved the problem by formatting the card in Windows as Fat32. This now works fine and given the size you can put on as many movies as you wish.
Just to add to what ojones838 said above.....Generally speaking the A500 will automatically mount external SD storage or USB storage as soon as it is plugged in (at least this is true of my ICS rom) but it's wise to "Unmount" the storage media before removing it.
Just for future reference, the hardware and software limitations for size are 32GB (FAT and SDHC) and 2TB (SDXC). Nothing in-between those.
Just picked one of these up from eBay. Thanks for pointing these out and the details on how to format and use it on the A500 !
FYI - Just ran SD Card Tester on it and it ran at 5.91MB/s Write and 9.19MB/s Read. So inline with expectations for a class 6 card.
@saeba.....Glad the card works for you, as I said above with that amount of usable space you can put as many movies (including large size blu-ray's) as you want. Certainly enough to keep me happy on my transatlantic flights!
Thanks for the info re the speed test, class 6 seemed to me about right.....have learn't to take maker's claims about speed with a grain of salt.