Newbie With 8525 Questions - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

Hey guys,
I just got the 8525 last week and so far I like it. I have been searching the net and p2p for games, programs, etc but I am a lil confused. I tried loading .rar files but they dont work and when I load software then remove it I get an exe error when I have to perform a soft reboot. Can anyone help me with info on what apps, games, etc I can load onto this phone? I have several of games and apps that I found on the net I can share if someone can direct me to an upload link.
Also I have the tomtom 6 but only with Guam maps, does anyone know how I can get USA maps.
Thanks brotha.

Welcome to the forum!
First, just to make it clear (I am not accusing you of anything but this particular forum name sometimes confuses new users) we do not discuss warez and cracks here.
The 'hacking' part refers to exploiting hidden functionality of the phones and not defeating software protection.
Now, here is a quick explanation on software installation on Windows Mobile based devices:
1) If you download ZIP, RAR or EXE file you need to unpack and run it on a PC while the phone is connected through ActiveSync. There are programs (including freeware) that can open RAR and ZIP files on the device, but chances are they will still contain a program that needs to be ran on the PC.
2) If you have a CAB file (www.freecabs.de lets you download free software in CAB format straight to your phone) you need to open file explorer and click on it to install.
when I load software then remove it I get an exe error when I have to perform a soft reboot
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Not quite sure what you mean by this. If you installed some software, then uninstalled it and now you are getting a message at start up that some file can not be found, open file explorer (on the phone), navigate to windows\startup and see if there is any unnecessary shortcut there. If so delete it.
Good luck!

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Question - Handling software install exe file on ppc

Hey guys,
If there's already a way to do this, please tell me; otherwise, this could be a suggestion for some genius to try his skills at.
A lot of developers don't provide .cab files to install their software directly to pocket pc. So when you're browsing the internet on your device and you find a program you want to try out, you have to download the .exe file to your pc and install it from there.
Now those .exe files usually do nothing more than putting some help files on your pc and copying the .cab to your pda. So the .cab file is contained somewhere within the .exe installer, possibly in some encoded form I guess, but it should be possible to extract it, right? That way you could install software on the go, regardless wether or not the developer offers a cab file to download.
I can only make this suggestion... actually programming it is not my cup of tea. The last time I did any programming I was 13 or something. It was the early nineties and I was trying to make my own OPL version of Mortal Kombat on a Psion Organiser II 64. Killer graphics, man. Unfortunately it never got beyond beta.
Good luck...
well most of the exe files you install to your pc using activesync are just selfextracting zip files and if you rename them to zip you can often open them and copy out the cab file you want
i dont think the market for an install script / program generator for pocketpc is big enough for people to spend too much time developing it
and they can be pretty complex if you look at wiseInstall master on pc which have a world of option and it's own programming langauge of sorts
Thanks, I'll try that out.
It's more or less as I thought: since every install program is its own decoder/unpacker/etc., the form in which they're encoded can be different for every type of installer, and it would be very hard to cater for all the types out there. Oh well... pity...
A lot of people use the Open Source installer:
ezsetup.exe
You will see this almost everywhere. Even MS use it, despite their scourge of Open Source. It takes a CAB file, adds an End User Licence, a ReadMe, and bundles together into a program which dumps it's output as a cab on the device, then installs the cab.
Since this is open source, you can see exactly how it works here:
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/ezsetup/?en
I am sure it would be simple to write a version which just extracted the CAB file from an existing archive.
Ben

Installing separate files...

Hi there, I'm having trouble installing programs that seem to come in loads of separate files. One of them is an XML file and the rest seem to be unopenable/unrecognisable by windows.
Can anyone give me advice on how to install these onto my MPV3100. I've search for Install help but there doesn't seem to be anything specific on how to do it.
Thanks.
wingzero124 said:
Hi there, I'm having trouble installing programs that seem to come in loads of separate files. One of them is an XML file and the rest seem to be unopenable/unrecognisable by windows.
Can anyone give me advice on how to install these onto my MPV3100. I've search for Install help but there doesn't seem to be anything specific on how to do it.
Thanks.
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I can't be sure but it sounds like you have decompressed a .cab file on your PC before trying to place it on your device. If so that's not the way to do it.
There are in general threetypes of programme/files you can download for WM5
1. ,cab files
2. .exe files
3. .zip files
.cab files you place directly on the device by connecting via active sync using the Explore button on the PC active sync screen. If you have a storage card inserted navigate to that and drop them in there. To run a Cab file just click on it on your device.
.exe files in the main you run on your PC whilst connected via active sync. The programme will automatically instal the programme on the device. Keep an eye on the device there maybe some taps you have to make.
.Zip files in general you extract these on the PC and then you'll see if they are .cabs or .exes and then treat them as above.
Most programmes will then show up under the Start>Programmes listing on the device and you run them from there. Some though may not especially if you chose to install them to storage card. In which case use file explorer programme to navigate to them.
Ultimately you'll want a programme that allows you to create short cuts to them probably on the desktop screen.
Hope this helps
Mike

Running a .exe

Hi peeps,
Is there an app or a trick where I can run an .exe file on my UK Vario without having to hook up to my pc?
TIA
What exe? How are you getting the file on to your phone?
V
When I'm out and fancy downloading something I generally download direct to my device and as a rule everything a in exe format so need a PC to run the app, game etc.
Not a particular exe just in general
Thanks
I think he meant that how can he extract the stuff he wants from a SETUP.EXE of a PPC software.
If it is an EXE, you can run (still need a PC) it on a PC, check the temp folder and get the CAB file. Copy and run this on your PPC.
Many thanks for the info, not quite what I mean.
For example I'm at work and browsing some ppc freeware I find this file pocketpictureinstall.exe and download it direct to my device.
Thats it I dont have my home pc to hand just my Vario and unless I run ActiveSync which I can't at work there is no way it will run on my device.
Is there any software out there that would allow me to provide the .cab files local on the device or just run the app?
Thanks again.
No not really. There are possible apps you could compile for the PPC to assist, but you'd have to be a coder. If not, then the easy answer is typically no - but many websites offer the choice to download the installer in cab format.. Look around.
V

help please

can someone walk me thru how to fix n intall a .cab on my tmobile wing thank you
a thread name should describe the "problem" like in this link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466562&highlight=install+cab
the search is powerfull! use that power.
i just dont know what to do when the cab is unpacked i dont know how to pack it so i can install on my tmobile wing
http://www.pocketpccentral.net/help/tutorials/install_cab_file.htm
mur1 said:
i just dont know what to do when the cab is unpacked i dont know how to pack it so i can install on my tmobile wing
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WHY did you unpack it ? You must only...
(... go to the Search in xda-dev's and if don't find anything, ask for, and you'll be told that cab's are installed...)
...copying the CAB into the device (better into the SD card) and execute it using the File Explorer.
****** IMPORTANT ******
Please, before installing any CAB, get sure it's safe. Maybe you'll need to install first a "SafeMode" starter in your device, so that you'll able to boot it when you destroy almost everything by using an unsafe CAB or EXE.
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Before continuing (I see you posted only 3 times and your question is a basic one), please read the conditions and the suggestions for newbies. It's the safest way to preserve your device from bricking it (that's called, "you'll be only able to use it as a wall brick but not to phoning or computing")
when i download the cab into jzip it unpack it by itself
Well... that's easy.
Just download it like a usual file. Right-click on the link and choose "save as", so that Jzip will not open it by itself. Save it into a folder, i.e. "My downloaded CABs"
Try to install a "safemode" manager for your device. Thus, you'll be able to boot it when your installation will be the wrong way. A good ROM (maybe the original for your device if you didn't play with it) is also necessary near to you for the same reasons.
Also, try to download and launch a CAB analizer like MSCEInf.exe and you'll be able to understand what is into your CAB, TSK and some other files you feed into your device. The most of the problems when installing something come because you're using the wrong version, or because the installation asks for a startup process or a change in the registry, and looking into the CAB will allow you to modify the installation.
Then, you may use Activesync or similar to put the CAB into the device (better into the SD card if you have small space to put files, as happens with the Herald). You may also switch off the phone (this is OFF, not hybernated!!) and take the microSD card and put the files inside via USB reader.
Launch the File Explorer (better if you use other managers, I like TotalCommander) and tap on the CAB file. Remember if you didn't modify the settings, the CAB will be erased once it will be installed.
If you have not many space in your "programs RAM" you can move the files from \windows\appmgr to a similar folder into your SD card. Do not delete them, as you'll need those files/folders when you'll uninstall some app.
*****WARNING***** If this is your first experience with Windows Mobile, take a surf into this web and read, read, read, print hardcopies of everything you'll consider interesting, and only after this you'll be able to work with your device with no danger to damage it forever. (you'll only damage it for some hours, till you'll have hard-reseted it).
thank u so much

Downloading Apps

Hi all
Had my HTC HD2 for a couple a weeks now and have had a few teething problems with setting up my texting and emailing...anyway all is sorted now and im looking to customise my phone. However, i am a COMPLETE NOVICE when it comes to phones/computers.
Can anyone give me an idiots step by step guide to installing apps on my phone please?
Many Thanks
Ben
Well, do you need any help with particular application?
Because, in short example, you just need to download .exe or .cab, copy it to microsd, and run it with file explorer.
I suggest you to try BsB Tweaks, just write it into search option and try first result, there are few good tweaks to begin with...
Ben- programs are installed in 2 ways as Bence suggested- via CAB files and via EXE files.
The difference is that EXE files almost always have to be run on a PC while the phone is connected via Activesync (doesn't need a full partnership, just connected) but CAB files are executed on the phone itself.
Decide which programs you actually want, and search for them either in Marketplace (included on the phone and which does all the work for you, but is severely limited in choice) or via webshops like Handango or Pocketgear. Most are available as trial versions which you download and install yourself. The majority of programs from these shops are EXE files so are installed via the PC.
Many of the program developers have their own download links and most have a CAB file option as well. Download the CAB file to your phone using the phones own browser, or via the PC, then use Explorer to copy it to the phone. Then open File Explorer on the phone, locate the file and just tap it to install.
Bence said:
Well, do you need any help with particular application?
Because, in short example, you just need to download .exe or .cab, copy it to microsd, and run it with file explorer.
I suggest you to try BsB Tweaks, just write it into search option and try first result, there are few good tweaks to begin with...
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thanks guys
bsb tweaks 1.5 or 1.6?
The newest, but I think there will be new version released in next few days...
US or RO CAB?
OR DOESNT IT MATTER? oops caps
I dont know what do you mean...just go to first post of BsB Tweaks thread and at the bottom there is .cab file attached...

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