Does anyone know of anyone successfully extracting, the apparently improved, A2DP BT stack from AKU3.2 for use on the Prophet?
Thanks to this forum, the particularly the ROM updates (LVSW 2.3 currently although I haven’t tried Jester’s yet) my Prophet is running superbly. I just wish the A2DP quality with my iTech S38 was equal to that on my old Magician. I’ve tried the SampleRate and BitPool registry tweaks with minimal success – still very apparent ringing and muddiness to the sound :-(
I guess this is effectively a plea to LVSW and Jester since my searches to-date have drawn a blank and my current skills certainly aren't up to extracting it…
Thanks in advance
Jeff
dobbing said:
Does anyone know of anyone successfully extracting, the apparently improved, A2DP BT stack from AKU3.2 for use on the Prophet?
Thanks to this forum, the particularly the ROM updates (LVSW 2.3 currently although I haven’t tried Jester’s yet) my Prophet is running superbly. I just wish the A2DP quality with my iTech S38 was equal to that on my old Magician. I’ve tried the SampleRate and BitPool registry tweaks with minimal success – still very apparent ringing and muddiness to the sound :-(
I guess this is effectively a plea to LVSW and Jester since my searches to-date have drawn a blank and my current skills certainly aren't up to extracting it…
Thanks in advance
Jeff
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I will have a look, but at first glance the a2dp files from 2.3 and 3.2 look the same.
Thanks Jesterz, that would be most appreciated. Any new information would be useful.
On a more general note how is your AKU3.2 ROM coming along. Is there anything we can do to help?
Regards
Jeff
To explain I'm pinning my hopes on better A2DP based on a previously referenced article:
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/articles/wm-aku-en.shtml - AKU3.0 "Bluetooth connectivity has gotten enhanced as well: from now on it supports FTP profile, better handles A2DP, whose quality gave rise to criticism lately."
Jesterz,
Any time frames on when your complete "clean" AKU3.2 ROM will become available for testing?
Regards
Jeff
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Jesterz,
Any time frames on when your complete "clean" AKU3.2 ROM will become available for testing?
Regards
Jeff
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as soon as I "unbrick" my G3 (working on it now) i will have both a G3 and a G4 for testing this ROM, right now i run an internal beta on my own G4, it's ok, however as has been mentioned before on these forums, there is stuff missing from the ROM, for example, the bluetooth FTP is missing.
please remember that my rom is basicly the pdamobiz 3.2 ROM, however, taken out ALL the "junk" software, and I'm now trying to piece together which drivers/programs should be in the ROM, it's a lot of work.
What I would probably do, is fine an HTC device that has an official AKU 3.x ROM, rip it and compair,move over software.
drivers will be a problem, as they have to be for the prophet, but I can maybe use the 2.2 ones, I don't know yet
In any case, I'm learning as I go along and hope to have a public beta out soon.
AKU 3.3
Jesterz, could you take a look to see if there are new A2DP files in the AKU3.3 ROM, please?
The usual three suspects - Avrcp_MPplugin.dll, bta2dp.dll and sbc.dll.
Thanks!
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Jesterz, could you take a look to see if there are new A2DP files in the AKU3.3 ROM, please?
The usual three suspects - Avrcp_MPplugin.dll, bta2dp.dll and sbc.dll.
Thanks!
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They SEEM newer, however, please be reminded that these drivers come from a totally different device.
right now I can't even boot the AKU3.3, i'm still moving drivers around.
I'm running AKU 3.2 in my Universal and noticed the A2DP sound quality is the same, not better in anyway compared to my Prophet which is running AKU 2.3.
lie_ui
Well, AKU 3.3 comes from a device that uses an OMAP-750, so it's pretty close.
And I really do hope they fixed the BT sound problem in AKU 3.3. MS should be aware of the issue by now.
How do you install the files?
So I was able to extract the files from AKU 3.3 (!!!), but how do you install them? Have to use a CAB file? Or I register the DLLs???
Edit: Hmmm... looks like I need the cert file to make it work, like with the Tornado A2DP patch. Anyone know how to get it?
please delete this post - for some unknown reason I can not.
"So I was able to extract the files from AKU 3.3 (!!!)"
Hi Joe,
You just paste those Dll's into your Windows folder.
Would you please be so kind as to post the 3 files.
I am trying to get this working on my samsung and
the tornado patch won't work. (it allmost does, I get
everything but the "set as wireless stereo" option.)
I am also wondering if the cert cab worked for you.
Thanks,
I tried copying the files, but they didn't work. I don't think they loaded. When I used MortPlayer, the pop up came up asking if I would allow the AVCRP dll to load. Never got prompted for the other two files, so no go.
I tried signing the files (using and installing the test cert from one of the threads), tried putting it in a cab file, then tried both together, and nothing worked.
Maybe simply extracting the files isn't enough? I dunno... can't duplicate how the Tornado A2DP patch was made. Help, please!
I dunno what's the point posting up the files, since they don't work. But if you guys really want 'em, I'll put them on the FTP site (if I'm allowed to).
Please upload the files as I would still like to see if the make a difference on my device.
Thanks.
Here ya go...
Just be careful not to brick your machine.
Thanks joe,
Tried them on my device with some luck.
I did not get the errors I've gotten with every other bluetooth hack posted in this forum.
That said, I still don't get the option to "set as wireless stereo"
every thing else works just fine.
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Here ya go...
Just be careful not to brick your machine.
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Well, I updated these three files... machine is alive but, unfortunately A2DP-headset doesn't work now
With new dll's I can't connect my headset to my S200.
I've rollback to TrnadoA2DP hack.
Well, I've finally managed to installed A2DP from AKU 3.3.
It's stable, but the bad news is that it is just as bad as the AKU 2 version. Same odd distortion... no discernable improvement.
It took a lot of steps to get it installed. I'm not gonna go into it... I don't feel like writing an essay at this point.
I'll post up the cab files later (tomorrow?) for those who want to try it. I don't recommend installing them, since it's a hack job that offers no improvements. But I think there are probably a few people as crazy as me who would anyway.
I'm still baffled why dopod won't release a rom for this A2DP.... :angry:
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Hi All,
Well I've kicked off my first windows mobile project with a progam I call "WordNetCE". If anyone is familiar with Princeton University's program called WordNet you will know you can use it as a brilliant dictionary/thesaurus, amongst other things that are beyond a normal human's intelligence.
One thing I've found lacking for Pocket PC is a decent free dictionary/thesaurus, so I've set out to make one based upon WordNet which is free to distribute from Princeton. A person named Malcolm Crowe did the original .NET port for WordNet 1.6, so I modified it to work with the new WordNet 2.0 dictionary, as well as with the Pocket PC platform (it wasn't all copy & paste...).
It's free to download from http://www.ebswift.com/PocketPC/WordNet/.
Note though that I have only just barely kicked this project off, but the dictionary side of things is operating. You will find much of the other functionality isn't working, but will come online soon.
Please check it out and start giving me some feedback. Thanks.
Just fixed up a lot more of the functionality - it's more useable compared to what it was before if anyone had a chance to look. A couple of buttons are still not complete, as with most of the main menu, but it can do about 20 times more than what it could this morning.
Look very promising!
Just one question: Is it mandatory to store the WordNet database onto a storage card, or can I store it on internal RAM too?
the cab installer didnt work on my xda. T-mobile wm2003
Just one question: Is it mandatory to store the WordNet database onto a storage card, or can I store it on internal RAM too?
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At the moment it's mandatory, but there's no reason why I can't add an option. Not many people will be able to use main memory because the database is ~over~ 30 meg!
the cab installer didnt work on my xda. T-mobile wm2003
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I wonder why? I'm using the T-Mobile 4.01.16 ROM on an XDA 1 and installed the CAB with no problems. Are you using an XDA 2? I'm not sure if there's any difference with the CAB installers between XDA1/2, or maybe there's corruption in the download file, I'll check tomorrow. VS.NET outputs CAB's for all the difference PPC processors, so I'll put them up ASAP to cover other devices than the XDA1.
Thanks for the feedback
Here's a screenshot that's also on the website :
[WordNet.gif]
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the cab installer didnt work on my xda. T-mobile wm2003
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I have the same problem, ERROR="\storage card\wordnetce_ppc[1].arm.cab" is not a valid Windows CE Setup file. I look forward to your fix. Thanks.
same error i was getting.
the cab installer didnt work on my xda. T-mobile wm2003
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I'm really sorry about that, my download algorithm had a response.end, so a "Thread Aborted" was being tagged onto any download. Changing that to Response.Flush seems to have fixed it, at least for that cab file.
Please give it another go, I do appologise for coming up with such a thread with a screwed download.
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the cab installer didnt work on my xda. T-mobile wm2003
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I'm really sorry about that, my download algorithm had a response.end, so a "Thread Aborted" was being tagged onto any download. Changing that to Response.Flush seems to have fixed it, at least for that cab file.
Please give it another go, I do appologise for coming up with such a thread with a screwed download.
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Hey man, no appologies needed. Great work, thanks for the great freeware. It worked great.
Thanks Iggy. Bear with me for a few minutes if there's any problem with the download, I'm just writing some referrer protection into downloads. It won't take long.
===OK, the referrer protection is finished and it's all working again...
I just uploaded a version I call 0.5 because it's 0.5% finished. Compared to the version since I posted last in this thread there's some major bugfixes; the adjective and adverb menus now correctly show, and there's versions for different processors.
http://www.ebswift.com/PocketPC/WordNet/
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I just uploaded a version I call 0.5 because it's 0.5% finished. Compared to the version since I posted last in this thread there's some major bugfixes; the adjective and adverb menus now correctly show, and there's versions for different processors.
http://www.ebswift.com/PocketPC/WordNet/
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sorry ebswift, the download links don't seem to work, and once you have fixed them what is the difference between arm & arm4 (xda ii maybe). let me know when it is fixed.
The download is now fixed ~again~...
I already responded to Iggy, but just so the group knows, ARMV4 is the one that seems to be uploaded to my device during debug sessions, so I can safely say that ARMV4 is somehow newer than ARM. So I guess anything XDA1 or upwards can use ARMV4. I have had both working on my XDA1 and I can't see any difference in operation, although I haven't tested for performance.
Nice job brother. Now works perfectly
Well I added the little convenience of the keypad popping up automatically, and popping away on lost focus. There's also a couple more menu items in operation. It's really not far away from working completely, most of the technical stuff is out of the way.
Just downloaded and tried, excellent work. Thanks for setting up the keyboard, makes it a lot easier. Looking forward to the final version, but so far excellent.
I just upgraded to 0.53 so the history works (or should work).
I'm really happy the way this project is going.
All features operating
I have just uploaded WordNetCE .99 with ALL features now operating. Please update to that version and let me know if there's any bugs. Thanks!
For those of you who tried that latest download and found it didn't work, it is now patched, you should be able to get it up and running now.
I'm trying to bluejack with my M2000 running WM5. I've tryed various software but none of it works, Dose anyone know of any software that will do this? I used to be able to do it in WM2003 just by sending contacts via bluetooth.
Thanks in advance WWWeed........
I would love to find a good pocket pc program that could automaticly bluejack people.on my old P800 i use a program called s-man that does a constant scan for other phones and then sends a message to them over and over again
why would people want to do that ?
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why would people want to do that ?
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for educational purposes.....
there is such a program, i've used it on my old c500 and my jasjar, it's called smurf, I forget the link, but google it and ye shall find. btw it's freeware and does auto bluejacking
STUNNING, STUNNING, thanks for the smurf heads up, you are a star!
doesnt work ir searches devices and then shows an error and quits =(( help
link
Here's the link:
http://www.gatefold.co.uk/smurf/
(download is below on the page)
Looks nice btw :lol:
And you need the Microsoft Bluetooth stack for this one,
finally 'Jack's Back on WM5'
its true, i can blue jack onedevices and then as soon as it trys again-it just comes up with and error, i wish we had a version of S-man (from p800/P9XX)
if anyone know of some better software then please to tell 8)
Ok im bored with Smurf, there must be a better software out there, i would like to do some blue snarfing for fun, does anyone know of anything better out there?
http://www.inventop.com/proximitymailsetup.exe
i havn't tested it yet,it might be the right stuff
no such luck, im sure it would work on the M1000/M2000, on my M5000 it just says it cant find a bluetooth stack so forget that download
can sum1 please post a cab for the the .net compact v.2 thanks!
the file for compact framework v2 is http://msdn.microsoft.com/netframework/programming/netcf/downloads/default.aspx
thats from the microsoft web page just click the top link and then download the msi file and it will add it to your activesync for next time you sync up
I cant believe that there is still not a good bluejacking program out there for WM5, or windows mobil all together, how come symbian have loads of REALY good ones and we have like 1 and thats not that good either, i rekon someone is holding out and there is a great on efor us out there!.
Anyone?
bluejacking...
Hold your breath...
I'm currently implementing bluejacking in btCrawler.
It's already working for PPC but I need a few more days to put everything up for Smartphones...
You will be able to send messages AND files!
You can for example create your own "special" version 3 vcard including a photo or sound and then send it with btCrawler.
I'm also planning to implement something like a proximity mode. When a device comes in range a predefined automessage or file is sent...
however, link is: http://www.silentservices.de/btCrawler.html
Blujacking?
What is it? I've heard of Bluetooth...but not blujacking. Sounds like something dirty when you talk about Smurfs and blujacking....LOL
Try Sniper... (M$ bluetooth stack req'd)
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What is it? I've heard of Bluetooth...but not blujacking. Sounds like something dirty when you talk about Smurfs and blujacking....LOL
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Bluejacking is the practise of sending text or files to other bluetooth compatible devices that support OBEX push. Most people think it has something to do with Hijacking, but infact it's just named after the guy who came up with it named Jack. Bluejacking in not "Hijacking" or "Hacking" in any sense, you can only push, not pull.
Cornholio you are a star!, i didn't relise you had been making this program, you should start a thread to see if many people are interested!, i will try it out, have you tryed using Sman.sis on a sony Ericsson phone, its very good-it might give you a few ideas.
Oink i have got sniper-it seems a bit slow and fragile but i havnt tested it enough to give a good appion so my mind might change
I think I may have sorted the poor camera quality issue with the Alpine. If you are cooking your own ROM, don't include the camera patch. I just removed it and the picture quality is like the xda 2 now - much better.
Let me know if it works for you.
Did you do this in your cooked rom?
Just worked it out.
Will get the ROMs edited over the next few days.
One thing I was wondering was how are these "patches" detrimentally affecting the Alpines? That's something for me to look at over the next few days in work with nothing to do.
Will post the ROMs again over the weekend sometime.
I'll also see if I can post a quick fix in the meantime.
I'm looking forward to see the rom... Actually, if there is any fix without installing an updated rom would be better...
Thanks a lot for the effort.
Just had a look at the windows\camera_sensor1.dll file which is the offending file and I can't seem to copy the original one off the device so a quick fix won't be possible at the moment sorry. I'll post the updated ROM soon.
Hi pug,
Will you modify 1.11.162 1.04 radio versiyon ROM or the other one without the O2 crap?
Actually if it is not a burden, a camera fixed version of both ROM's would be great!
Thanks alot...
thanks ..can't wait to get shot of the 02 rubbish ,will save ages waiting for that stuff to load
OK people, uploading the modified ROMs here:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Alpine/O2_Roms__Camera_Fixed_Pug/
I've also added extra BT profiles thanks to someone on this site, sorry, can't remember who.
A special thanks goes out to Bal666 and Itsme for all the help and the software to allow me to help others out really easily.....you guys are Gods.
Many thanks to all out there for your understanding, support and feedback.
Pug.
Sorry for being thick but why are there 2 different ones?
Thanks Pug.
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Sorry for being thick but why are there 2 different ones?
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One has the O2 crap stripped out, the other has it still in. :lol:
Please help with this... Run this upgrade and now the phone speaker doesn't seem to work !
Apologies.... Double posted in error !!!!
Thank you for your time.
Ok... Any clues ???
Just ran upgrade from O2 website and speaker/mic still doesn't appear to work within phone calls... Could upgrading damage these ? Is there anything that is residual and could be left on XDA after an up(/down)grade ???
Are you running off Pug's camera-fixed ROM, or have you reverted to his previous .169 with 1.04 radio with the default camera?
Was running on Pug's camera fixed ROM but when found had problem reverted to the latest ROM direct from O2... And still have the problem...
When you look at the "volume slider" is it at the bottom? I had a similar problem with mine a while ago when I had upgraded to the 169 rom, It seemed to happen if I was loading up the BT tools programme that gives added profiles in BT manager, even when I went back to 162 I still had the problem, even though it worked fine before the upgrade!!
The one without the O2 crap is perfectly working for me so far.
Could someone post picture before and after fixing camera?
I want to see the results!
Thanks!
Hey everyone,
I am going to be getting a Prophet (imate Jamin) in the next few days and, although i've searched the forum, I'm kind of confused by the amount of stuff you can actually tweak/upgrade in the phone. So I thought i'd ask you guys what are the key steps i have to take upon reception of the phone to optimize it (I'm sure such a guide would benefit a lot of newbies like me). So, here's what I'm planning to do:
1. Unlock it.
2. Flash the latest ROM (I think it's the Dopod one, right?)
3. Remove any extended ROM crap that could slow it down.
4. Reenter manually all my T-Mobile settings (unless there is an automated cab to do it?)
5. Apply the A2DP patch
6. Load the MSI Blueplayer (is that actually necessary?)
7. Overclock it.
8. Sync it.
Okay, that's pretty much what I'm planning on doing. If you guys wish to add/correct/suggest, please do so. Also, keep in mind that I'm trying to achieve the best speed, not the best battery life or the most apps.
Thanks in advance for the help,
TDX
The newest version ROM (any AKU2 version infact) should already support A2DP. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Not to contradict you or anything, but I was under the impression that the official AKU2 updates only contained the Push email upgrade, not the A2DP. Can omeone clarify that for us please?
The latest ROM itself does not connects any device as A2DP. You need to install the Tornado drivers to get it up and running After that, it works.
Yeah,
that's what I thought. Any other suggestions on things I might have missed on my list of necessary enhancements to get the Prophet up to speed?
Thanks
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The latest ROM itself does not connects any device as A2DP. You need to install the Tornado drivers to get it up and running After that, it works.
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Where do I get the Tornado drivers from?
Some questions from a newb
I'm in the same boat as tdx (getting an s200 in a few days), and I'm really lost with all the info I've found on this phone. My previous phone was a razr and I did everything to that phone imaginable, but I'm pretty lost with the Prophet so far. When I finally see the device, I'm sure a lot will make sense.
How does one install a new rom or cab updates? Does that require ActiveSync or is it just dragging and dropping these files into the file manager of the phone? Keep in mind this is my first ppc device and I'm very unfamiliar with how they work. Also I'm curious about ringtone loudness, as I've seen some other phones with just a speaker on the back and they're Very quiet and practically inaudible... does the prophet have this problem or is it pretty loud? What hacks are available to get the sound above factory settings?
Also, is the newest dopod rom the Best right now, or are there any major hang-ups or bugs that are really a PITA (pain in the ass)? What about the BT connectivity? Is A2DP just a cab file I'll need to drop into the phone, or how do I get it into the phone, and not where I have to manually run and open up everytime I want it to work?
What about some of your favorite programs or plug-ins for the phone? Any favorite weather, today screen, bank program, etc that you guys absolutely love? There's a lot of stuff out there and I'd hate to miss out on something just because I'm a newbie
Alright last question, while overclocking, is MemMaid the only way to set it up to overclock with certain programs, and go back to native speed after program closes? I was planning on just overclocking to 240mhz while running skype and TCMPT or windows media player, so videos wont lag too bad, and maybe with other programs I notice run a little laggy. I also don't want to leave it overclocked constantly, only when I'll need it... Any other way to set this up without the need of memaid?
I know much of this has been covered, but I feel these are really basic useful questions that many people with a stock, oem prophet could all benefit from knowing, so maybe we can get some walkthroughs on some of these things and get these discoveries organized.
Well thanks in advance for any info!
Hi,
I used to use Dial Up Networking to access TomTom plus services on my Go 910 through my Hermes, but as we well know, MS has replaced this feature with ICS as of AKU 3 onwards. I'm now using WM6 and don't want to go back.
I found this blog on MSDN. Apparently DUN may reappear in WM6 .... one day ... if the operators choose to include it...
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/04/17/why-did-we-remove-bluetooth-dun.aspx
Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone had looked into ways to port DUN from a pre-AKU 3 version of WM5 into WM6. Is it just a bunch of dlls a few registry settings, or is this functionality very intertwined in the OS and hard to transport?
I don't want to duplicate work, so if anyone has looked into this already please let me know. Also let me know if you think this would be a worthwhile project. If no one else has done this, I'd be happy to give it a try.
Thanks
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Hi,
I used to use Dial Up Networking to access TomTom plus services on my Go 910 through my Hermes, but as we well know, MS has replaced this feature with ICS as of AKU 3 onwards. I'm now using WM6 and don't want to go back.
I found this blog on MSDN. Apparently DUN may reappear in WM6 .... one day ... if the operators choose to include it...
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2007/04/17/why-did-we-remove-bluetooth-dun.aspx
Anyway, I was just wondering if anyone had looked into ways to port DUN from a pre-AKU 3 version of WM5 into WM6. Is it just a bunch of dlls a few registry settings, or is this functionality very intertwined in the OS and hard to transport?
I don't want to duplicate work, so if anyone has looked into this already please let me know. Also let me know if you think this would be a worthwhile project. If no one else has done this, I'd be happy to give it a try.
Thanks
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It can't be hacked on the Registry level - see my related remarks in my article on all these q's.
That is, simple registry hacking won't work.
Thanks. Your very good article answers most of my questions. (not what I hoped to hear unfortunately).
One thing is still not clear in my mind though: Is this functionality solely a dependency of the (upgraded) MS BT stack and not the OS itself? If so, is it available in, say, the Widcomm stack and could one get DUN functionality back on a WM6 ROM by using the Widcomm stack instead of the Microsoft one?